I'm okay with trans athletes competing against women without any restrictions. They will blow the current records away and prevent another woman from reaching that level. It will be really funny.
Jesus, could you be any more fucking borning. Hurr, maybe one day the women's Olympic curling team with be all men. Hilarious! š
My proposal: any man can compete in any women's sport provided he wears a head full of dollar store hair extensions, some lee press on nails, a pair of payless pumps, and a face full of dollar store make up and so on. Disqualified if his mascera runs or he loses a nail, etc.
Why do you hate trans people? do you think they are not valid? do you think they do not exist? this type of abject hate just has no place on the internet (a tool that exists for the expansion of human knowledge, and nothing else)
The thing about trans folk is that the debate is controversial for good reasons, as despite all the autism from both sides it still brings up interesting questions that society has to face.
The nature of pedos legitimizes that they aren't people as there is no moral side to raping innocents. You (a pronoun which shouldn't be use as it identifies you as a person but the English language doesn't really have any subsitutes) have no ground to stand on and have no place to be the arbiter of any moral issue.
yeah no, the trans community are the ones who constantly start slinging mud and accusing bigotry the second facts don't coddle their mentally addled minds. I've seen this exact debate start and get derailed by a tranny claiming "only TERF's say that". Little unsettling how many tranny's are involved in big tech.
ya the first word is cuckime not cuck what's ur point? do you normally go into an epileptic fit like this when u see those four letters next to each other?
Sweaties, pls, we are all equal. Who cares about the #4221 overall best not being a man? If they wanna earn some money they can either stop being lazy and beat men, or do some gussy and trussy competitions on Twitch and chaturbate.
Look at how many of them finish their arguments or include the phrases āsports donāt matterā or āI never cared about sports ball anyway.ā Thatās why so many of them simply donāt get it. They donāt know why anyone would get upset about this because they donāt care. Honestly I donāt give a shit about womenās sports either but this is fucking stupid.
Thatās where Iām at. I just know if I was a girl and played sports this would make me livid. Even if I have a daughter in the future this would bother me. I know Iām serious posting but my tolerance runs out here. Iāve even seen some places that make FtMs compete with the girls and thatās a problem too. In that case theyāre girls essentially on steroids.
Sports are a luxury; Anything that flows from the existence of sport is therefore also a luxury.
The ātrans athlete debateā isnāt actually about sports
The ādebateā is nothing more than a distraction, a smokescreen, a facade, to take attention away from trans people receiving rights and real issues facing the trans community.
Like, if they don't matter, if they are a luxury, then I can make an argument that it's ok if no trans people are allowed to compete before we determine if it's fair, right?
They really aren't helping themselves here as their claims just opened this argument for me.
Thatās a good point. They are dunking on themselves with those lines. They see oppression everywhere they look. Some are even upset that allies arenāt coming far enough. āTrans women are womenā literally isnāt enough for them. Fuck me if I donāt want my girlfriend to have a penis I guess. Iād consider myself incredibly tolerant but I should go even farther to not be a bigot? Iāll offer my sympathy and support but itās becoming increasingly clear Iāll never satisfy particular wings of the community.
That's why you never give an inch to begin with. Trannies are mentally ill and if you don't tell them to fuck off immediately they'll be demanding you suck their "female" dick. The worst thing they'll do is call you a transphobe, which means shit all as long as your career isn't in selling to SJWs.
Not only that, but Third World Africans own Liverpool jerseys and held their own championship parade. People care about sports because competition is a basic human instinct. I have a lot of sympathy towards progressive causes but the amount of people who don't see how much competition, you know, the thing that even the most basic fucking life form engages in, is completely natural. Rigging competition by putting yourself in a category that you cannot fit into without unnatural methods is, well, unnatural and I completely understand why a large portion of the population is against trannies. I'm probably going to be labeled alt-right for this, even though I think they are more retarded than the libs, but fuck me for actually embracing the theory of evolution.
Weāve been playing sports since, well, maybe forever. Iām gonna assume most contrapoints are leftists as well, because this idea that the āpoor doesnāt need but food, whatever and shelterā is exactly what these people thinkā.
The only thing I know about women's sport is that the USWNT is annoying and I want them to lose. I root against all American women in international competition.
If sports don't matter, why do they care if trans people play at all? What a stupid fucking argument.
I don't give a shit if you're trans but there is a reason we separate men and women in sports -- biology is a real bitch and someone's feelings getting hurt isn't worth women getting the shit beat out of them by biological males.
wanting to take away the ability for women to participate fairly in sports because you personally don't care because you're a lazy fatass
like fuck me, even i quit a sport because i was literally too lazy to get up in the morning for practice, and i haven't been into any sport since then, but even i don't see why these retards are so hellbent on destroying women's sports
like, even if you accept the "transwomen = women" meme, the biological arguments still remain. unless these people are literally so delusional that they've convinced themselves sexual dimorphism don't real, they literally just don't give a fuck about women's sports being destroyed, yet they will still unironically consider themselves "progressive" and "feminist"
unless these people are literally so delusional that they've convinced themselves sexual dimorphism don't real
As far as I can tell, they have.
A couple of weeks ago, we had someone screeching that the feminine penis was, biologically, a completely different organ from the masculine penis. And any skepticism = bigotry. Twitter was canceling people for doubting whether transwomen got periods a few months back.
yeah, i mean, a woman was banned from badwomensanatomy from pointing out how a mtf neo""""vagina"""" wasn't an actual vagina. i'd like to think these people are just ignorant and grossly misinformed, because if they've truly been brainwashed into rejecting the truth, that is honestly frightening. these people are going to peddle this rhetoric, and newer generations will be "taught" this, and very soon we might have a population where the majority thinks women can have dicks and a surgical hole is comparable to a vagina, and any criticism gets you labeled as an -ist and cancelled
Reddit's weird way of trying to sound cool about hating sports by calling it "sports ball" is the cringiest shit in the world. You would look like a total fagget if you said that in real life.
that's usually how it goes with the whole sjw thing tho isn't it? astroturfing fuckbois with zero interest in the franchise or competition or subculture or whatever they're currently ruining
it's kind of insane / hilarious how a feminist group can be taken over by a majority of men and trans women who then collectively decide "actually, cis women voices don't matter." if i still cared about this stuff id be furious lmao
I feel like this can only be sustained so long. I've noticed in my (purely anecdotal) personal experience, every woman who ends up interacting with this type of mentality personally almost instantly goes semi-TERFy. And it's not like I live in Nebraska or some shit, these are your stereotypical Coastal EliteTM big city liberals. Someone posted an article about how Millennials and Zoomers have decreased in there support for LGBT+ for like 3 years straight, and you gotta wonder if it's just young women getting tired of being told that men in wigs' opinion of "women's issues" are more important than their own.
It's people in general getting tired of LGBT+ saturation. Same thing happened after desegregation and the sexual revolution - once the legal discrimination is repealed, normal people leave the movement, but it continues to get a lot of press and the whackjobs still activist-ing turn off the majority. Give it a few years and most of the media and corporations and whatnot will get the hint and start treating them as not representative of your average gay person.
People were plenty sick of radfems and dashiki-wearing soul brothas by the end of the 1970s, just as we'll all be sick of transthletes and lispy queers by the mid 2020's.
We've come full circle. The "left" is now arguing that women's opinions on women's matters matter less than any man who throws on a dress and declares themselves a woman, and you're an evil conservative dinosaur who's on the wrong side of history if you even try to point out how fucking ridiculous that sounds. Like, for fuck's sake guys, I'm definitely a 'liberal' but I also know how testosterone in teenagers works. It is CLEARLY advantageous.
they're either a) so delusional they think sexual dimorphism isn't a thing or b) they know but simply don't give a fuck about women's sports, and would be happy see it get destroyed by a small minority (or possibly c), both a) and b)). """"left"""" indeed, how these people can consider themselves progressive is just mind bogging
It's amazing that the Janitor thinks that article says what they claim it says. "no distinguishable physical advantages over cis women in sports" is not said at all. It's sort of implied that the restrictions are good enough of a handicap, but definitely doesn't make any claim to remove physical advantages. I'm also suddenly curious on makes men taller than women, and whether trans women are proven to get shorter.
Also, lol at trans men having 0 restrictions. If you wanna try to make it as a man, you're free to just declare yourself a man the night before and go for it without anyone blinking an eye.
They're not very good. But that's the great thing about tranning. You can be just as mediocre as when you had short hair and trousers, but now everyone loves you because they think it triggers the alt-right.
I disagree, the older videos were good and a new, refreshing take on the anti SJW mindless shit happening on youtube and the internet. Before transitioning, he was engaging in politics and giving a different perspective to those issues. Why I Quit Academia is a very interesting video, from someone with a philosophical background. The debate with Sargon was also very good.
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After the transition, she became obsessed with sex, beauty, plastic surgery, make up, all that shit and every single video or tweet was about those superficial things. Then she started to hit big numbers with the quality drastically decreasing.
ContraPointsās value is that she can sorta criticize the leftās SJWishness without being shushed by hordes of shrieking wokescolds because her gender identity is the most sacred of all the identities modern leftism loves.
Trans women (note that trans and women are separate words; this is important because ātranswomenā has become a dog whistle used by TERFs and other transphobes,
how do you convince biological girls to take part in sports? How do you tell them they can be a pro one day, win a medal, if the podiums are filled w/ transwomen?
Anyone who attempts to argue in this forum a definition of "Biologically Male" or "Biologically Female" as referring to one or more individuals in the species Homo sapiens must present citable works, published in a high-citation-index, peer-reviewed publication, that delineate a taxon for the holotype and allotype specimens of H. sapiens.
If you want to distinguish between trans women and cis women, use "trans women" and "cis women".
"Folx, biological sex and gender are totally separate"
"DONT YOU FUCKING DARE DISTINGUISH BETWEEN SEX AND GENDER"
"delineate a taxon for the holotype and allotype specimens of H. sapiens." is what you get when philosophy majors try to talk about biology. It reminds me of those absurd jim crow literacy tests.
they think because language is a construct, the things language is used to describe is also a construct as well
Anyone who attempts to argue in this forum a definition of "Biologically Male" or "Biologically Female" as referring to one or more individuals in the species Homo sapiens must present citable works, published in a high-citation-index, peer-reviewed publication, that delineate a taxon for the holotype and allotype specimens of H. sapiens.
Do you have a source on that?
Source?
A source. I need a source.
Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.
No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.
You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.
Do you have a degree in that field?
A college degree? In that field?
Then your arguments are invalid.
No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.
You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.
Nope, still haven't.
I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a transphobe supporter. A moron.
When will these people learn that societal acceptance/tolerance =/= competing in physically demanding sports with people you have an unfair advantage over? Iām okay with treating you like whatever you identify yourself as, but do I need to entertain your āwomanhoodā while you beat a girlās face in with your denser bones, neurologically faster reaction timing, etc.?
Iām left handed, so by definition, Iām a minority as well (10% of the population), but I donāt bitch and complain when I canāt do certain things that right handed people can (like those painful scissors that have the grooves molded for right handers), I just deal with it and accept that I canāt do certain things. Is accepting that too hard to swallow?
Oh no, I'm fine with them existing. I like Contra because she's actually aware of the fact that she's trans. Mark my words, in 5 years she's going to pull a John Lydon and leave the Chapos seething at her for "selling out."
That was back when she was still in dysphoric man mode. Most transgender people (apart from the idiots who just get girlie haircuts and expect lesbians to fuck them) are pretty realistic about biology and gender.
Still, no transwomen in womenās sports. The world doesnāt revolve around them.
Most transgender people (apart from the idiots who just get girlie haircuts and expect lesbians to fuck them) are pretty realistic about biology and gender.
When I was little (like, before puberty) I had a friend who Iād bet anything was a trans guy. I literally just thought that he was a boy whose parents had given him a horrible name for a while. This was at a Catholic school, and he really hated wearing the girlsā uniform. Eventually the nuns gave up and let him wear the boysā clothes, probably because they figured having a sullen kid with a boyās haircut wearing a skirt would look ridiculous.
Anyone who attempts to argue in this forum a definition of "Biologically Male" or "Biologically Female" as referring to one or more individuals in the species Homo sapiens must present citable works, published in a high-citation-index, peer-reviewed publication, that delineate a taxon for the holotype and allotype specimens of H. sapiens.
If you want to distinguish between trans women and cis women, use "trans women" and "cis women".
"Guys, biological sex and gender are totally separate"
"DONT YOU FUCKING DARE DISTINGUISH BETWEEN SEX AND GENDER"
The same reason so many other semi-relevant phrases end up being endlessly misused on the internet. Someone uses it correctly once in something that goes viral and/or ends up on reddit's front page that totally owns the repukelicans with FACTS and LOGIC, then all the people who think being even vaguely liberal automatically makes you a certifiable genius with 3 honorary Ph.D's start constantly using it incorrectly as an argument ender because they think it makes them always right and the evil consurvitards wet their pants.
As I discovered fairly recently from personal experience, you cannot convince these people that letting trans athletes compete =/= letting men cheat by competing with women. As someone who never even liked sports to begin with, it gives me a headache.
A lot of cisgendered women right now are all for letting mtfs compete in female sports. Wait 15-20 years for female high school sports to be dominated by transwomen. When they watch their own biologically female daughters high school basketball team get the shit kicked out of them by a 6'5" 200 lb center with a larger cardiovascular system and more red blood cells, you can cheer her up by saying "theres no natural advantage, its a coincidence she had a quadruple double"
That said, theres not supposed to be anything "fair" about sports. There's nothing fair about lebron james being 6'8" 260 lbs with a 40" vertical and hes durable enough to mever miss a playoff game. But thats why sports are fun.
That said, they really think contrapoints is some groundbreaking philosophical shit. Tards
If the transwomen get to compete against biological women, the whining from biological women at having their records destroyed and the eventual collapse of biological women being able to compete at the highest levels of sports would be incredible.
If transwomen are not allowed to compete against biological women, they'll whine and throw fits about not being included and how that's "in violation of their human rights" or something.
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1 IHeartCommyMommy 2019-06-26
Remember: if an athlete is trans they're cheating, just ignore them when it comes to determining who won.
1 throwawayserver012 2019-06-26
How are they even cheating? They are women
1 IHeartCommyMommy 2019-06-26
Tbh, at this point I'm seriously unsure if this is sarcasm or not.
1 CumMilkshake 2019-06-26
Either way his bait is weak
1 Yes_he_swan 2019-06-26
Made him delete his whole account. Damn.
1 IHeartCommyMommy 2019-06-26
Am I now a cyber bully? š¤
1 Yes_he_swan 2019-06-26
You post in /r/drama. You automatically fall under one of two categories: lolcow or cyberbully. Evidence is pointing towards the latter now.
1 whoresloverfat 2019-06-26
Then I am Schrodinger's shitlord
1 CuriousKrow 2019-06-26
I'm okay with trans athletes competing against women without any restrictions. They will blow the current records away and prevent another woman from reaching that level. It will be really funny.
1 Protista_of_Peace 2019-06-26
Jesus, could you be any more fucking borning. Hurr, maybe one day the women's Olympic curling team with be all men. Hilarious! š
My proposal: any man can compete in any women's sport provided he wears a head full of dollar store hair extensions, some lee press on nails, a pair of payless pumps, and a face full of dollar store make up and so on. Disqualified if his mascera runs or he loses a nail, etc.
1 zergling_Lester 2019-06-26
Seething cope!
1 Protista_of_Peace 2019-06-26
lol, the cure for being annoyed by something is to hope it turns into a full-blown fiasco.
1 zergling_Lester 2019-06-26
u doth protest too much, lady
1 Protista_of_Peace 2019-06-26
yeah, if you could just quit š©manš©splaining and š©manš©existing on my comment, that would be great. š¤
1 whoresloverfat 2019-06-26
This, but unironically.
1 Minimum_T-Giraff 2019-06-26
Might even makes womyns sports worth to watch.
1 Tzar-Romulus 2019-06-26
Because they're biological males competing with women.
1 Suka_blayt 2019-06-26
Andš that's šaš good šthing
1 bleached_ammonia 2019-06-26
they are women but not female, which is what matters wrt sports.
1 Detective_Fallacy 2019-06-26
No. They are men wanting to be treated like most women are treated.
1 Dramacel69 2019-06-26
no, since woman = adult human female
aka not women
1 T-14 2019-06-26
any1 can be anything if u play with definitions enough
1 Yes_he_swan 2019-06-26
My penis doesn't get hard so I disagree.
1 cuckime_pro 2019-06-26
Why do you hate trans people? do you think they are not valid? do you think they do not exist? this type of abject hate just has no place on the internet (a tool that exists for the expansion of human knowledge, and nothing else)
1 OppaiDaisukiUwU 2019-06-26
They aren't people.
Hating anything besides other humans is hypocritical and so I'd never do it.
1 cuckime_pro 2019-06-26
have you raped any kids yet or are you waiting until your 2d girlfriend leaves you for bbc
1 OppaiDaisukiUwU 2019-06-26
Yes.
That's also how you were born.
1 cuckime_pro 2019-06-26
I would like to say u should stop raping kids it isn't cool u should also cut off the anime for good measure
1 OppaiDaisukiUwU 2019-06-26
How about stop cutting yourself and seek mental help?
1 AdministrativeNerve7 2019-06-26
The thing about trans folk is that the debate is controversial for good reasons, as despite all the autism from both sides it still brings up interesting questions that society has to face.
The nature of pedos legitimizes that they aren't people as there is no moral side to raping innocents. You (a pronoun which shouldn't be use as it identifies you as a person but the English language doesn't really have any subsitutes) have no ground to stand on and have no place to be the arbiter of any moral issue.
1 OppaiDaisukiUwU 2019-06-26
Kids are gross and I'll never have them tbh.
It's cool that your mum bought you a projector last week, but I don't really care about it.
1 DrZerglingMD 2019-06-26
yeah no, the trans community are the ones who constantly start slinging mud and accusing bigotry the second facts don't coddle their mentally addled minds. I've seen this exact debate start and get derailed by a tranny claiming "only TERF's say that". Little unsettling how many tranny's are involved in big tech.
1 cuckime_pro 2019-06-26
Isn't pedophilia the mental illness here why am I the one getting therapy
1 OppaiDaisukiUwU 2019-06-26
Because you're projecting your mental illness onto me and it's not cool man.
1 cuckime_pro 2019-06-26
you could choose to not advertise your pedophilia and make a new account don't know what you expect when you put it in ur username tbh
1 OppaiDaisukiUwU 2019-06-26
Kids don't have boobs but ok.
1 cuckime_pro 2019-06-26
classic anime pedophile trying to argue masturbating to 14 yos isnt pedophilia
1 OppaiDaisukiUwU 2019-06-26
14yos don't have boobs but ok
1 cuckime_pro 2019-06-26
lol ok sure
1 OppaiDaisukiUwU 2019-06-26
The fact that you don't believe that I'd know better about what kids look like when I rape them 24/7 just basically proves that I am not a pedo.
1 cuckime_pro 2019-06-26
then why does your username have the word pedophile in it
1 OppaiDaisukiUwU 2019-06-26
Cucks are supposed to be submissive losers, not pretentious faggots who tell others what to do.
1 cuckime_pro 2019-06-26
who said I'm a cuck?. also interesting how ur dodging ur pedo allegations u must have accepted it that's the first step to healing good on you
1 OppaiDaisukiUwU 2019-06-26
Cuck is literally the first word in your username.
1 cuckime_pro 2019-06-26
uh no it isnt
1 OppaiDaisukiUwU 2019-06-26
cuckime_pro
1 cuckime_pro 2019-06-26
ya the first word is cuckime not cuck what's ur point? do you normally go into an epileptic fit like this when u see those four letters next to each other?
1 OppaiDaisukiUwU 2019-06-26
CUCK
1 cuckime_pro 2019-06-26
do you want me to call a doctor
1 GUNZJESTER 2019-06-26
Ouch, you got them there! Anime-related usernames totally invalidate completely valid points!
The humanity!
1 cuckime_pro 2019-06-26
do you use this sub to have real arguments I really only like the part where you insult other users maybe thats just me
1 GUNZJESTER 2019-06-26
I read it to keep up on current events. Drama really isnāt my thing, but it helps me keep up with current happenings.
1 OppaiDaisukiUwU 2019-06-26
You talk about having real arguments over insulting after literally implying that I do nothing but rape kids all day.
1 cuckime_pro 2019-06-26
do you only rape on the weekend
1 Logios_AW 2019-06-26
Mental š Illness š
1 Heyhoneyhey69 2019-06-26
Awesome bait
1 vtesterlwg 2019-06-26
dont downvote the baitdramacels
1 cuckime_pro 2019-06-26
šš§
1 Gayenough4me 2019-06-26
Uh no
1 WreckingYourHome 2019-06-26
Sweaties, pls, we are all equal. Who cares about the #4221 overall best not being a man? If they wanna earn some money they can either stop being lazy and beat men, or do some gussy and trussy competitions on Twitch and chaturbate.
1 Alicesnakebae 2019-06-26
Trans people should only compete against tran people
1 OppaiDaisukiUwU 2019-06-26
Exactly.
Disabled people compete against disabled, mentally disabled shouldn't be any different in that regard.
1 forcedhammerAlt 2019-06-26
No, sorry. It's way funnier to see lame guys defeating women
Specially when people who hate sports start pretending women's sports is the shit
1 whoresloverfat 2019-06-26
Trans people should only compete against train people. Rumor has it that 40% already do...
1 FloggingJonna 2019-06-26
Look at how many of them finish their arguments or include the phrases āsports donāt matterā or āI never cared about sports ball anyway.ā Thatās why so many of them simply donāt get it. They donāt know why anyone would get upset about this because they donāt care. Honestly I donāt give a shit about womenās sports either but this is fucking stupid.
1 Tzar-Romulus 2019-06-26
Tbf I like sports but couldn't care less about women's sports.
1 FloggingJonna 2019-06-26
Thatās where Iām at. I just know if I was a girl and played sports this would make me livid. Even if I have a daughter in the future this would bother me. I know Iām serious posting but my tolerance runs out here. Iāve even seen some places that make FtMs compete with the girls and thatās a problem too. In that case theyāre girls essentially on steroids.
1 whoresloverfat 2019-06-26
If all foids were replaced with doinked up bussy, I might actually tune in.
1 closedshop 2019-06-26
Youāll care once the womenās teams are filled with men.
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-06-26
well yeah, it might be marginally more interesting than watching junior varsity sports.
1 Woolgun 2019-06-26
It's just a massive own goal really.
Later in the thread
Like, if they don't matter, if they are a luxury, then I can make an argument that it's ok if no trans people are allowed to compete before we determine if it's fair, right?
They really aren't helping themselves here as their claims just opened this argument for me.
1 FloggingJonna 2019-06-26
Thatās a good point. They are dunking on themselves with those lines. They see oppression everywhere they look. Some are even upset that allies arenāt coming far enough. āTrans women are womenā literally isnāt enough for them. Fuck me if I donāt want my girlfriend to have a penis I guess. Iād consider myself incredibly tolerant but I should go even farther to not be a bigot? Iāll offer my sympathy and support but itās becoming increasingly clear Iāll never satisfy particular wings of the community.
1 OniTan 2019-06-26
That's why you never give an inch to begin with. Trannies are mentally ill and if you don't tell them to fuck off immediately they'll be demanding you suck their "female" dick. The worst thing they'll do is call you a transphobe, which means shit all as long as your career isn't in selling to SJWs.
1 Cdace 2019-06-26
Even starving third worlders play soccer. If only we could ping
1 MinerHornet 2019-06-26
Not only that, but Third World Africans own Liverpool jerseys and held their own championship parade. People care about sports because competition is a basic human instinct. I have a lot of sympathy towards progressive causes but the amount of people who don't see how much competition, you know, the thing that even the most basic fucking life form engages in, is completely natural. Rigging competition by putting yourself in a category that you cannot fit into without unnatural methods is, well, unnatural and I completely understand why a large portion of the population is against trannies. I'm probably going to be labeled alt-right for this, even though I think they are more retarded than the libs, but fuck me for actually embracing the theory of evolution.
1 _SweetnessFollows 2019-06-26
Weāve been playing sports since, well, maybe forever. Iām gonna assume most contrapoints are leftists as well, because this idea that the āpoor doesnāt need but food, whatever and shelterā is exactly what these people thinkā.
1 IHeartCommyMommy 2019-06-26
Woah, comrade, that sounds awfully hierarchical of you.
1 CJ_from_Grove_St 2019-06-26
The only thing I know about women's sport is that the USWNT is annoying and I want them to lose. I root against all American women in international competition.
1 Fletch71011 2019-06-26
If sports don't matter, why do they care if trans people play at all? What a stupid fucking argument.
I don't give a shit if you're trans but there is a reason we separate men and women in sports -- biology is a real bitch and someone's feelings getting hurt isn't worth women getting the shit beat out of them by biological males.
1 Dramacel69 2019-06-26
like fuck me, even i quit a sport because i was literally too lazy to get up in the morning for practice, and i haven't been into any sport since then, but even i don't see why these retards are so hellbent on destroying women's sports
like, even if you accept the "transwomen = women" meme, the biological arguments still remain. unless these people are literally so delusional that they've convinced themselves sexual dimorphism don't real, they literally just don't give a fuck about women's sports being destroyed, yet they will still unironically consider themselves "progressive" and "feminist"
it's actually mindboggling
1 15ImpoundedCats 2019-06-26
As far as I can tell, they have.
A couple of weeks ago, we had someone screeching that the feminine penis was, biologically, a completely different organ from the masculine penis. And any skepticism = bigotry. Twitter was canceling people for doubting whether transwomen got periods a few months back.
1 Dramacel69 2019-06-26
yeah, i mean, a woman was banned from badwomensanatomy from pointing out how a mtf neo""""vagina"""" wasn't an actual vagina. i'd like to think these people are just ignorant and grossly misinformed, because if they've truly been brainwashed into rejecting the truth, that is honestly frightening. these people are going to peddle this rhetoric, and newer generations will be "taught" this, and very soon we might have a population where the majority thinks women can have dicks and a surgical hole is comparable to a vagina, and any criticism gets you labeled as an -ist and cancelled
anyways dude trussy lmao
1 OniTan 2019-06-26
That only works if you hang out in feminist/SJW circles. They have no power over you if you don't want to associate with them anyway.
1 shamooooooooo 2019-06-26
Reddit's weird way of trying to sound cool about hating sports by calling it "sports ball" is the cringiest shit in the world. You would look like a total fagget if you said that in real life.
1 T-14 2019-06-26
that's usually how it goes with the whole sjw thing tho isn't it? astroturfing fuckbois with zero interest in the franchise or competition or subculture or whatever they're currently ruining
1 contentedserf 2019-06-26
Massive cope
1 CompoundReaction 2019-06-26
Oh dear. How are the sports fans not convinced?
1 VGToasty 2019-06-26
More trans women in combat sports tbh.
300lb newfoids ripping chicks arms off in MMA would be dank.
1 SlowlyDying- 2019-06-26
Locked This is a No No topic, You will not do it again Jannie says so.
1 Seattle_Bussy_Lmao 2019-06-26
I love how misogynistic they are lmao
1 seshfan2 2019-06-26
it's kind of insane / hilarious how a feminist group can be taken over by a majority of men and trans women who then collectively decide "actually, cis women voices don't matter." if i still cared about this stuff id be furious lmao
1 Intravenousmemefluid 2019-06-26
I feel like this can only be sustained so long. I've noticed in my (purely anecdotal) personal experience, every woman who ends up interacting with this type of mentality personally almost instantly goes semi-TERFy. And it's not like I live in Nebraska or some shit, these are your stereotypical Coastal EliteTM big city liberals. Someone posted an article about how Millennials and Zoomers have decreased in there support for LGBT+ for like 3 years straight, and you gotta wonder if it's just young women getting tired of being told that men in wigs' opinion of "women's issues" are more important than their own.
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-06-26
It's people in general getting tired of LGBT+ saturation. Same thing happened after desegregation and the sexual revolution - once the legal discrimination is repealed, normal people leave the movement, but it continues to get a lot of press and the whackjobs still activist-ing turn off the majority. Give it a few years and most of the media and corporations and whatnot will get the hint and start treating them as not representative of your average gay person.
People were plenty sick of radfems and dashiki-wearing soul brothas by the end of the 1970s, just as we'll all be sick of transthletes and lispy queers by the mid 2020's.
1 Mayos_side 2019-06-26
Men do everything better.
1 dramasexual 2019-06-26
If I weren't already a TERF this thread would have made me one tbh
1 Can_The_SRDine 2019-06-26
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1 dramasexual 2019-06-26
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1 HellBurial 2019-06-26
That thread has cured my dysphoria and turned me into a TERF.
Fucking entitled bastard woman-hating males with uncontrollable sissies fetishes.
1 dramasexual 2019-06-26
Based and feministpilled
1 seshfan2 2019-06-26
this is a perfect example of
"trans women are a uniquely Oppressed(tm), and thus deserve all of these things"
and also
"trans women are literally the exact same as cis women, and if you give cis women anything you're being exclusionary"
1 TheReasonTERFsExist 2019-06-26
1 Dramacel69 2019-06-26
THIS š IS š PEAK š FEMINISM š FOLX š
1 Intravenousmemefluid 2019-06-26
We've come full circle. The "left" is now arguing that women's opinions on women's matters matter less than any man who throws on a dress and declares themselves a woman, and you're an evil conservative dinosaur who's on the wrong side of history if you even try to point out how fucking ridiculous that sounds. Like, for fuck's sake guys, I'm definitely a 'liberal' but I also know how testosterone in teenagers works. It is CLEARLY advantageous.
1 Dramacel69 2019-06-26
they're either a) so delusional they think sexual dimorphism isn't a thing or b) they know but simply don't give a fuck about women's sports, and would be happy see it get destroyed by a small minority (or possibly c), both a) and b)). """"left"""" indeed, how these people can consider themselves progressive is just mind bogging
1 Can_The_SRDine 2019-06-26
ContraPoints is a smart person who is beloved by idiots. Sorta like Destiny on spirolactone.
1 itsnotmyfault 2019-06-26
It's amazing that the Janitor thinks that article says what they claim it says. "no distinguishable physical advantages over cis women in sports" is not said at all. It's sort of implied that the restrictions are good enough of a handicap, but definitely doesn't make any claim to remove physical advantages. I'm also suddenly curious on makes men taller than women, and whether trans women are proven to get shorter.
Also, lol at trans men having 0 restrictions. If you wanna try to make it as a man, you're free to just declare yourself a man the night before and go for it without anyone blinking an eye.
1 -holier-than-mao- 2019-06-26
I'm shocked and amazed, btw.
1 Suka_blayt 2019-06-26
>being such a fan of a YouTube "personality" that you not only watch it, but actively discuss it on an internet forum
May Allah rid us of these "people"
1 MikeHuntIsAnAsshole 2019-06-26
Ah yes, Cuntrapoints. Giving men the rights women fought for for 100+ years to own the Nazis
1 Tzar-Romulus 2019-06-26
He has a dick lmao
1 MikeHuntIsAnAsshole 2019-06-26
Can still be a massive cunt tho, as are his cultish followers
1 AlexVx99 2019-06-26
Contrapoints fans are literally in a cult
1 HellBurial 2019-06-26
Have you ever watched one of his videos?
They're not very good. But that's the great thing about tranning. You can be just as mediocre as when you had short hair and trousers, but now everyone loves you because they think it triggers the alt-right.
1 Dramacel69 2019-06-26
this is the equivalent of retarded boomers being convinced by youtube videos with ominous music telling them how obama was an evil islamic terrorist
1 AlexVx99 2019-06-26
I disagree, the older videos were good and a new, refreshing take on the anti SJW mindless shit happening on youtube and the internet. Before transitioning, he was engaging in politics and giving a different perspective to those issues. Why I Quit Academia is a very interesting video, from someone with a philosophical background. The debate with Sargon was also very good.
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After the transition, she became obsessed with sex, beauty, plastic surgery, make up, all that shit and every single video or tweet was about those superficial things. Then she started to hit big numbers with the quality drastically decreasing.
1 trappysaruh 2019-06-26
jesus christ youre more embarrassing than a degenerate tranny
1 AlexVx99 2019-06-26
What is that Destiny % ?
1 trappysaruh 2019-06-26
% of all comments posted in a subreddit
1 AlexVx99 2019-06-26
I love Destiny but had to leave that subreddit, it was turning into chapo 2
1 ChateauJack 2019-06-26
Eww
OUT OUT OUT
1 trexmundi 2019-06-26
1 Can_The_SRDine 2019-06-26
ContraPointsās value is that she can sorta criticize the leftās SJWishness without being shushed by hordes of shrieking wokescolds because her gender identity is the most sacred of all the identities modern leftism loves.
1 Tzar-Romulus 2019-06-26
It's the leftoid equivalent of PragerU
1 seshfan2 2019-06-26
uh, what
1 OppaiDaisukiUwU 2019-06-26
Mental illness that surpasses even whatever trannies have.
1 HellBurial 2019-06-26
That'd be trans phobes, thank you.
1 paTEoriginal 2019-06-26
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1 Fortizen 2019-06-26
"Folx, biological sex and gender are totally separate"
"DONT YOU FUCKING DARE DISTINGUISH BETWEEN SEX AND GENDER"
"delineate a taxon for the holotype and allotype specimens of H. sapiens." is what you get when philosophy majors try to talk about biology. It reminds me of those absurd jim crow literacy tests.
1 Dramacel69 2019-06-26
lmao @ these smug pseudo intellectuals
they think because language is a construct, the things language is used to describe is also a construct as well
Do you have a source on that?
Source?
A source. I need a source.
Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.
No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.
You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.
Do you have a degree in that field?
A college degree? In that field?
Then your arguments are invalid.
No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.
You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.
Nope, still haven't.
I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a transphobe supporter. A moron.
1 LongPostBot 2019-06-26
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1 Dramacel69 2019-06-26
fuck you, transphobe
1 LaFemmeMacabre 2019-06-26
When will these people learn that societal acceptance/tolerance =/= competing in physically demanding sports with people you have an unfair advantage over? Iām okay with treating you like whatever you identify yourself as, but do I need to entertain your āwomanhoodā while you beat a girlās face in with your denser bones, neurologically faster reaction timing, etc.?
Iām left handed, so by definition, Iām a minority as well (10% of the population), but I donāt bitch and complain when I canāt do certain things that right handed people can (like those painful scissors that have the grooves molded for right handers), I just deal with it and accept that I canāt do certain things. Is accepting that too hard to swallow?
1 Can_The_SRDine 2019-06-26
Oh, hi. I was a participant in that thread! You can't ping, so here I am for you to say what you would've said if you could.
1 HellBurial 2019-06-26
Can you tell them to stay indoors and turn the WiFi off?
Trannies make everyone really uncomfortable and we'd all rather they just stopped existing.
1 Can_The_SRDine 2019-06-26
Oh no, I'm fine with them existing. I like Contra because she's actually aware of the fact that she's trans. Mark my words, in 5 years she's going to pull a John Lydon and leave the Chapos seething at her for "selling out."
1 dramasexual 2019-06-26
He's unironically argued on video that biological sex doesn't exist, fam.
1 Can_The_SRDine 2019-06-26
When?
1 dramasexual 2019-06-26
idk I don't keep a catalog of when he said which retarded bullshit in my head
I remember he was arguing it to Blaire White tho
1 Can_The_SRDine 2019-06-26
That was back when she was still in dysphoric man mode. Most transgender people (apart from the idiots who just get girlie haircuts and expect lesbians to fuck them) are pretty realistic about biology and gender.
Still, no transwomen in womenās sports. The world doesnāt revolve around them.
1 dramasexual 2019-06-26
have u met any transgender people literally ever
1 Can_The_SRDine 2019-06-26
A few, but there arenāt very many of them.
When I was little (like, before puberty) I had a friend who Iād bet anything was a trans guy. I literally just thought that he was a boy whose parents had given him a horrible name for a while. This was at a Catholic school, and he really hated wearing the girlsā uniform. Eventually the nuns gave up and let him wear the boysā clothes, probably because they figured having a sullen kid with a boyās haircut wearing a skirt would look ridiculous.
1 cyrillic_computer 2019-06-26
so literally zero of them huh
1 dootwthesickness_II 2019-06-26
Let's get down to business, to defeat the Hons
Did they send me daughters who were born as sons?
You're the saddest bunch I ever met
But you can bet before we're through
Honey, I'll make a ma'am out of you
1 Fortizen 2019-06-26
"Guys, biological sex and gender are totally separate"
"DONT YOU FUCKING DARE DISTINGUISH BETWEEN SEX AND GENDER"
1 Osterion 2019-06-26
I respect their dedication to completely destroying female spoets
1 forcedhammerAlt 2019-06-26
why did "bad faith" suddenly became a thing?
1 Intravenousmemefluid 2019-06-26
The same reason so many other semi-relevant phrases end up being endlessly misused on the internet. Someone uses it correctly once in something that goes viral and/or ends up on reddit's front page that totally owns the repukelicans with FACTS and LOGIC, then all the people who think being even vaguely liberal automatically makes you a certifiable genius with 3 honorary Ph.D's start constantly using it incorrectly as an argument ender because they think it makes them always right and the evil consurvitards wet their pants.
See; Incel, Who hurt you?, etc.
1 forcedhammerAlt 2019-06-26
It's just so weird, it transparently means is "I cant think of a comeback, you're evil, you're concern trolling and making me think bad thoughts"
1 qwertyman_101 2019-06-26
It's the latest "gotcha" to throw out once you've lost an argument. "You're arguing in bad faith, therefore your argument is invalid."
1 crazdave 2019-06-26
nice try, youre clearly asking why in bad faith
1 Dramacel69 2019-06-26
shocking
1 Peytons_5head 2019-06-26
A lot of cisgendered women right now are all for letting mtfs compete in female sports. Wait 15-20 years for female high school sports to be dominated by transwomen. When they watch their own biologically female daughters high school basketball team get the shit kicked out of them by a 6'5" 200 lb center with a larger cardiovascular system and more red blood cells, you can cheer her up by saying "theres no natural advantage, its a coincidence she had a quadruple double"
That said, theres not supposed to be anything "fair" about sports. There's nothing fair about lebron james being 6'8" 260 lbs with a 40" vertical and hes durable enough to mever miss a playoff game. But thats why sports are fun.
That said, they really think contrapoints is some groundbreaking philosophical shit. Tards
1 -SaltineAmerican- 2019-06-26
Sorry legacy women. Your dreams have to be demoted to silver and second place.
1 Frostfright 2019-06-26
I think this is a win/win situation for /r/drama.
If the transwomen get to compete against biological women, the whining from biological women at having their records destroyed and the eventual collapse of biological women being able to compete at the highest levels of sports would be incredible.
If transwomen are not allowed to compete against biological women, they'll whine and throw fits about not being included and how that's "in violation of their human rights" or something.
It's all good!
1 dart200d 2019-06-26
what happens when trans people top all the "woman's" records?
1 drama9069 2019-06-26
The amount of mental gymnastics in that thread is ridiculous.
MEN WHO "TRANSITION" INTO WOMEN HAVE A HUGE NATURAL ADVANTAGE OVER PROPER WOMEN. ITS NOT FUCKING ROCKET SCIENCE.
1 drama9069 2019-06-26
ITT
Also ITT