"Inside the Secret World of Incels" doc posted on subreddit. Sit back and enjoy the shitshow in the comments already underway.

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Yes.

I'd like to be inside her secret world of incels... wait

Guys that blame feminism always think there was some golden age when they would have been able to get pussy.

Honestly they would be better off if they supported Feminism. Incels should be gunning for the off chance that the left decides sexwork should be legalized, it's their only chance of getting laid.

Who do you think male feminist are

male feminists are more dangerous towards women than actual misogynists

Problem with male feminists is they think they can unlock certain achievements with "good ally" points. Game culture begets rape culture.

male feminists is they think they can unlock certain achievements with "good ally" points.

"ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED:DRUNKEN OPPORTUNITY TO RAPE"

I know a guy who literally just got out of prison for finger raping a passed out girl at a party, and he's immediately on Facebook posting SJW talking points, hanging out with some blue hair. It's incredible really

Rapists?

Yeah, they're thinking about the bra burners (i.e. real feminists if you ask me) instead of the libfems that are all about porn and sex work.

i.e. real feminists if you ask me

Based.

Being treated with respect

Teasing thirsty losers with your titties over snapchat in exchange for money.

Pick one.

I swear to god, moids are so weird about sex.

Dude: wants to see titties and has money.

Chick: has titties and needs money.

Dudes: DID YOU SEE WHAT THAT DISGUSTING WHORE DID?

I think probably 85% of men can't handle having a dick. It's overwhelming to them.

The moids aren't showing respect when they throw money at whatever broad gives them services, it's just a transaction where the moids aren't seeing them as people, just jerkoff material. Thought radfems knew this.

I like radfems because they're battleaxes who speak truths sometimes. I think it's hard to have sex work that's ethical with the way things are now. Even to say sex work is work won't help anything because we treat low-level workers like dogshit. We all participate in the way things are, it's just not men doing things to women.

Even though I'm stupidpol-gang and they love to dunk on pro-sex work libfems I actually agree with the take of trying to humanize sex workers("sex work is work") as workers just like everyone else. The anti-sex worker squad never offers solutions to people in the field apart from promising everything will be cool in a Communist revolution, which is basically telling the workers to go fuck themselves.

I think sex work eventually should be confined to just independent operators, and sex workers owned cooperatives and/or unions where profits are split between the sex workers themselves. The problem I see is that a lot of sex workers, for whatever reason, like they're new or don't have business sense, need some kind of middle man to handle the non sex work part of sex work. And eventually these middle men, like brothels, agencies, and pimps of course, become exploitative, suck up all the profit for themselves, and control the lives of the workers. I don't think sex work can be ethical, unless all the capital involved is in the end owned by the sex workers themselves. Without that they're too many problems with coercion. Independent operators are not exploited but often find it difficult to set themselves up. So there needs to be some kind of middle ground, and I think that is sex workers themselves owning the middle man part of the business. Like they can hire people to handle their advertising and booking, but the owners and eventual profiters need to be the sex workers, not these people.

We don't need to go after sex workers, and we don't need to go after clients, is what I'm saying. We need to go after the middle men, they're the real problem with the industry in my view.

Oh, I get what you're saying. Yes, there is some benefit to saying sex workers are workers. I'm just thinking of things that occurred in Germany where sex work has been legalized. One brothel had 'all you can bang days' where the women were required to be naked their entire shift and take all comers. On the other hand, though, when women want to be treated like they are employees, they're told all they are doing is renting a room for the day in the brothel. It's like an aspect of the 'gig economy'. So, until workers and women are seen as having inherent dignity, I'm not sure there can be ethical sex work as a business model.

But, I'm not sure of the left's argument against sex workers, I just know radfems want the Nordic model.

I see the sw I frequent as sort of a friend that I sometimes have sex with and owe a lot of money for some reason. I respect her by respecting her choices in life and not shaming her for them, and not becoming delusional and possessive. Like ultimately it's a business, I pay her for an hour in which she pretends to be my gf and gives me some emotional attention that I need to keep functioning as a decent human being. I'm always aware that it's an act, she's playing a part, it's not real.

Like I think this is in general the best and least exploitative form of sex work, being a regular with just one or a few sex workers and establishing a business relationship and trust. I do genuinely consider her a friend, and it's not all entirely about money. Like when I got fired and was unemployed for a couple of months she'd call me up on occasion to check up on me, offer encouragement, this was a huge help when I felt useless at the time. But she wasn't ever gonna fuck me for free lol, at the end of the day she's running a business and that's how she pays rent lol.

Incels can be divided into two groups. The first group is super conservative and can't stand the idea of prostitution and sex dolls because they hold onto traditional views of marriage and sex and see sex dolls and prostitutes as society's attempt to pacify their righteous fury and indignation. Ironically, this group's attitude and temperament are most aligned with that of gendercritical femcels (esp when it comes to trannies). They're actually perfect for each other but are too filled with pride and indignant rage to realize this.

Then you have the liberal incels who demand state-provided waifus and sex robots and are more than happy to be pacified. These are the incels secretly paying for private snapchats and Belle Delphine's gamer girl piss.

Both of these groups blame feminists for their problems, but the conservative faction reserve special hatred for the libfems for trying to give them hookers and porn while the liberal faction hate the radfems for trying to take them away.

What makes this situation so funny is that if you pay close attention it becomes obvious that the surest indicator of being an unfuckable frustrated loser regardless of gender is having extreme political beliefs. It's like a horseshoe of seethe and cope lmao. I'd go so far as to say 85% of humans can't handle having genitals and anyone with extreme political beliefs about sex and gender should be systematically castrated but that's just me.

These are the incels secretly paying for private snapchats and Belle Delphine's gamer girl piss.

Speak for yourself. Belle Delphine's not gonna get me any closer to my robot waifu.

The second group aren't incels, they're virgins. Incels are virgins + misogyny

Incels originally were just a weird virgin support group, now basically the misogyny and male exclusive nature is basically a given though.

The original incel group was even started by a chick, fucking lol.

anyone with extreme political beliefs about sex and gender should be systematically castrated but that's just me.

Unironically based.

Ironically, this group's attitude and temperament are most aligned with that of gendercritical femcels (esp when it comes to trannies). They're actually perfect for each other but are too filled with pride and indignant rage to realize this.

Nah, people keep saying this but I don't see how it's true. First, radfems mostly just want trannies out of their spaces. They want trannies to have rights, like not being able to be fired or evicted for being trans. The conservative, traditional right wants Christians to be able to chimpout and fire some dude for showing up to work in a dress. So, they don't even see eye to eye on trannies.

Plus, you'll only find a really small percentage of radfems who would even consider voting for a Mike Pence type for any reason, including the tranny menace. If anything, TERFs don't have a place on the left or right.

What makes this situation so funny is that if you pay close attention it becomes obvious that the surest indicator of being an unfuckable frustrated loser regardless of gender is having extreme political beliefs. It's like a horseshoe of seethe and cope lmao. I'd go so far as to say 85% of humans can't handle having genitals and anyone with extreme political beliefs about sex and gender should be systematically castrated but that's just me.

This is all true.

This is the radical centrist take that we should all be rooting for.

I can't pay my student loans off with respect.

And I can't put my penis in your college degree.

Sounds like we're on the same page. Visit my patreon for more details about my premium lewd snapchat and my dissertation on post modern interpretive dance in east Asian cultures.

Not with that attitude you can't.

If its the 'I have a massive amount of guns, men and explosives' respect, you probably can tho

The bra burners of the second generation are the entire reason feminism became so stigmatized in the first place. Women didn't want to be associated with them because they'd be seen as prudish. The third wave was pretty much a reaction to this, it was a kind of feminism where they were accepting of consensual sexuality choices and being girly. Instead of second wave feminism, where they were more authoritarian and rigid, you weren't a real feminist if you wore makeup or had sex in certain ways.

Part of the problem is that that some lib feminism pushed the acceptance too damn hard, to the point where basically everyone could be a feminist and it meant nothing. Like especially the crap about male feminists and feminism being an ideology that sought equality for both men and women. I mean cut the crap, feminism is an ideology that is about women, period, why tf do women feel the need to apologize for that. Black activists don't have to claim that their working for white people too, not that they're against white people, but they have their own specific interests and don't have to apologize for that. But somehow with feminism it had to be about everyone, you can't be mean and exclude anyone.

So anyway the bra burners and authoritian prude feminists are coming back. But they're appeal is always going to be limited. Most women at the end of the day will want to be able to be pretty and girly when they want to, they want to have sex and to have the kind of sex they want to have. They don't want their entire lifestyle choices to be constrained by some ideology. If they didn't they'd join Islam or Mormonism or some shit, not some weird ideology like the terfs.

At the end of the day the appeal is limited basically to lesbians that hate trannies and are paranoid that if trannies are accepted they'll literally be forced to have sex with them.

The bra burners of the second generation are the entire reason feminism became so stigmatized in the first place. Women didn't want to be associated with them because they'd be seen as prudish. The third wave was pretty much a reaction to this, it was a kind of feminism where they were accepting of consensual sexuality choices and being girly. Instead of second wave feminism, where they were more authoritarian and rigid, you weren't a real feminist if you wore makeup or had sex in certain ways.

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But somehow with feminism it had to be about everyone, you can't be mean and exclude anyone.

I agree with what you're saying here. A lot of this was self-inflicted by feminists. There's also good old female socialization where a lot of women couldn't just tell MRAs to fuck off and go work on their own liberation.

They don't want their entire lifestyle choices to be constrained by some ideology.

Isn't the left always talking about how everything is political? Interesting that choice feminism includes women being able to buy 'pretty things' so capitalism keeps chugging along just the way it's supposed to. But, anyway, there's no reason why a radfem shouldn't be able to dress how she wants or that women can't add to radical feminism by addressing this. It's just that choice itself isn't feminism.

At the end of the day the appeal is limited basically to lesbians that hate trannies and are paranoid that if trannies are accepted they'll literally be forced to have sex with them.

You know you are straw manning here, right?

That fairy is unironically based. After searching my soul, I realized that I don't want to give up any of my male privileges.

Now you know what to do. 🧚🏻‍♀️

Honestly they would be better off if they supported Feminism

Eh, most are rapey enough already.

they would be better off if they supported Feminism

Since when has white knighting ever worked?

the left decides sexwork should be legalized

"The left" only supports sexwork where the prostitutes are concerned. They don't care about legalising or decriminalising it for paying Johns.

it's their only chance of getting laid.

Most incels consider themselves separate from "escortcels".

Nah not really, there is a divide on the issue of sex work between demand focused enforcement and full decriminalization. The sex workers don't want their clients to be criminalized, and they say it makes their job more dangerous. The terfs though view clients as scum and rapists and think they know best what is in sex workers interests. Unfortunately among people with power the prudish demand side position is more prevalent these days.

I'd say either is a step forward from the old model, but I definitely favor decriminalization.

Im not really following your logic here. Second wave feminism brought about free sex without marriage. How does that mean less sex for men?

Why do you think I'm stating my logic? Tell that to the incels ranting about feminism.

I think the issue today is with third wave feminism. Which, in total opposition to second wave, have turned women into frigid harpies looking to collegiate appellate courts to analyse why their dates went wrong.

But, they're pro-sex work and porn. Do you think the average incel needs to worry about pulling a train on a drunk sorority girl? No. But they might get laid with a sex worker.

They want a tradwife tho

I can only imagine the 24/7 chimpout on Reddit if women stayed home while men worked all day.

*They want their porno/instathot Stacys that they beat off to as tradwives.

Beggars can't be choosers

Second wave feminism is the frigid feminism. Third wave is the sex positive do what you want lib feminism. You are entirely reversing things. I don't think free love was ever actually a big thing among the second wave. When Andrea Dworkin said all sex is really, she was expressing an extreme form of the general second wave view.

No it didn't, by the 1980s women's groups were really critical of the sexual revolution.

Free sex without marriage plus Tumblr means sex for the Chads, anime, videogames and Pornhub for the losers, and that’s a great thing

Because it isn't a 1:1 ratio between the people having sex.

More women are having sex with a smaller pool of men.

This is true.

Because if women can choose their casual sex partner freely, why the fuck would they go for the ugly sperg over the hot athlete? Monogamy means every man gets laid, that's why it's a feature of patriarchy. Incels are mad that nature's reasserting itself after centuries of artificial social control.

lets be real feminism made some real unappealing women

83% upvoted

incels mad. can a woman come in here to describe a casual hookup they've had? just to make them seethe harder

A forum for 'hotwives' should contain sufficient outrage porn

No need to even leave Reddit...

/r/hotwife

/r/hotwifetexts

Inside the Secret World of Incels

Secret

lmao nothing about incels is secret. they will REEEE the loudest and hardest. like for fuck's sake how can something be a secret when it's featured on an episode of Law and Order SVU

I never understood their pathological need to project their failure as loudly as possible. It's like that angry 5 foot manlet that made a big ruckus knowing that he would be famous as a giant joke.

giant joke

Fellow kangz, you are not an incel, you are merely a chad who has yet to bloom. All kangz are Chad's in their heart, and we are all kangz. Brothers, truly you have nothing to feel ashamed of, and no one has the right to look down upon you. You are a Kang. Inshallah.

That was beautiful😫😫🥰🥰😭😭

Preach it Kang

It's a secret because boomers can navigate the internet...reddit is like 5he frontier to them

It sounds more interesting when they call it secret. Bbc foid gotta make some cash you know

People are trying too hard to humanize reddit's favorite punching bag

I view them more as heroine addicts than class enemies.

How soon after this airs are these guys gonna get ‘wokeified’ and lose their jobs and what little social lives they actually do have, only to be driven underground and radicalized by the very same people who ‘care’ about maligned people as long as you jump only when they tell you to and only as high as they tell you to and not an inch more in either direction 🤔 it’s truly over for these incels

only to be driven underground and radicalized

to identify as an incel you have to be a part of a community that's already radical with few exceptions; this is on par with saying 'if the tankie loses his job he might be at risk of becoming a tankie'. Not all people who aren't getting laid identify as an incel

Implying a tankie could have a job

lmao has a woman ever actually been right about incels though? they just use it as a random generic insult

Being involuntarily celibate is something a foid has absolutely no hope of being able to relate with.

A woman can sleep with a rando for free and you can sleep with a rando for like a couple hundred. Nothing involuntary here.

I don't even know what incel means anymore. I would love to submit a secret ballot to these people and ask them which of the following meets the criteria of "incel" and see how inconsistent they are:

  • 16 year old male virgin who is frustrated with the dating scene

  • 16 year old female virgin who is frustrated with the dating scene

  • 21 year old college student who hates how whorish women are but is single

  • 21 year old college student who hates how whorish women are but has a steady girlfriend

  • Chad Thundercock who uses whores for their bodies and makes fun of women online but gets laid all the time

  • A man in a 6 month dry spell

  • A woman with no sexual partners for the past 2 years

  • A man in a long-distance relationship

  • Someone who posts on anti-woman forums (zero knowledge of whether or not he is sexually active)

  • A gay man who has a dispositional hatred of women

Anti-woman --> incel, for most libs. So this is an incel sub.

An incel is someone you don't like or don't agree with.

Incel=retard that spent his formative years in a dark room with nothing but videogames/anime and forgot how to be human

Yes No No No No No No No No No

The only incels that will show up on these types of docs are going to be socially impaired white guys that are NEETs. Everyone else is going to rightfully avoid being associated with all of the ideologies of every single other man that's romantically disaffected.

If they wanted to find actual incels subject to lookism or for "negative personality", they could probably just round up the STEM ethnic workforce under 30 and hit around a 50% success rate on them. But that'd paint an ugly picture, so all these incel pieces will just NEETs or edgelords.

It's just a vain crusade. It's like trying to look into systemic racism by interviewing Stormfront posters and Richard Spencer.

s like trying to look into systemic racism by interviewing Stormfront posters and Richard Spencer.

I'm not sure what is wrong with investigating racism by going where the racists are

idk if you are memeing but systemic racism and good old-fashioned neo-nazi racism are completely different things. if you didnt just fuck the definition up and actually believe that the stormfront/neo-nazi crowd holds significant social and political power in America then there's nothing I can do for you because you are terminally retarded.

They do hold tremendous power and often drive the discussion in our society. When they want something to become an issue, it quickly does. Honestly few other groups are quite as capable of manufacturing and managing the conversation as they are.

Why do incels think all women are like super tumblrite rad fem types. I guess that would be assuming they actually talk to women though and not just them getting upset that women don't proactively seek them out.

I don't think that's the case. They're guys who don't have very much success with women and live in that subjective reality.

There was an interesting thread in the linked comments where one user (presumably a woman) said something along the lines of "these women are agreeing to go on dates with him so why doesn't he just go on dates, rather than verbally abuse them". The person is clearly not much of a thinker, but it highlights the point.
Some people live in a reality where such interactions are on easy mode, it stands to reason that others may be playing on European Extreme.

This is retarded

dude the fucking best part about this, was when the dumb bitch who claims to have "studied incels for 5 years", show sam hyde videos when talking about a real spree killer.

Semi-hot take: the "Catfisher" is ultimately good, because he gives these people an outlet that, while annoying, ultimately does less harm than what Elliot Rodger did.