Mayor of London wants to remember the victims of Stalinism. Tankie Twitter is triggered.

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Stop calling it Stalinism, it is Jughashvilism.

Stalin was such a cuck smh. Changed his name cus he was embarrassed of it and wasn’t even born in Russia

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Yeaaah that’s why he changed his name

"Stalin" was the world's first gaymer tag

Dzhugashvilism

but was it really real stalisnism ?

>still not realizing stalin was replaced by a CIA double

Real Stalinism has never been tried.

We don't say communism anymore. We say Maoism, Marxism and Stalinism.

Communism apologists stretch far and wide to exclude actual commies from communism, because the first problem with communism is communists.

Big brain take

"NOT REAL COMMUNISM! THEY KILLED NAZIS! NOT REAL COMMUNISM! THEY KILLED NAZIS! NOT REAL COMMUNISM! THEY KILLED NAZIS! NOT REAL COMMUNISM! THEY KILLED NAZIS! NOT REAL COMMUNISM! THEY KILLED NAZIS! NOT REAL COMMUNISM! THEY KILLED NAZIS! NOT REAL COMMUNISM! THEY KILLED NAZIS! NOT REAL COMMUNISM! THEY KILLED NAZIS!"

Screamed the brainwashed children while rocking back and forth.

Stalin personally raided and freed the people from the concentration camps, learn your fucking history maggot

😤😠😭😭😭

Imagine your ideology only being tolerable to some level because you wanted to align with nazis before they stabbed you in the back, so you raped them all to death lol

to be fair US also considered aligning with Nazis, thats why the late entry

Lmao what?! The US never considered aligning with the Nazis, or the Axis for that matter. The late entry was because the US decided to stay neutral due to there being a strong public opposition to join the war in Europe. So the US remained neutral and supplied the Allies with all kinds of resources, military equipment, monetary help etc.. As soon as the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, the US had to join the war officially.

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I don't know why people always say this. Stalin and the soviets were bad, but there was never any intention to ally with them. Stalin believed he could stall them until the red army was ready and then attack them.

From the third reich trilogy:

At the same time, Stalin realized that, as he told graduating military cadets in Moscow on 5 May 1941, ‘War with Germany is inevitable.’ Molotov might be able to postpone it for two or three months, but in the meantime it was vital to ‘re-teach our army and our commanders. Educate them in the spirit of attack.’ Delivered to young officers as a rhetorical message for the future, this was not a statement of intent. Stalin did not believe that the Red Army would be ready to deal with the Germans until 1942 or perhaps even 1943. Not only had the General Staff not drawn up any plans for an attack on the German forces, it had no plans for a defence against them either. Although the Germans mounted a large and sophisticated deception plan to conceal the true nature of their intentions, Soviet intelligence began to send in accurate reports that the invasion was planned for around 22 June 1941. But Stalin would not listen. Earlier reports that the invasion plans were to become operational on 15 May 1941, though correct at the time, proved wrong when the Germans delayed Barbarossa in order to mount the invasion of Greece and Yugoslavia. Hitler later blamed Mussolini for the consequences, but in fact the weather in East-Central Europe in these weeks would have made an invasion of the Soviet Union inadvisable even had the German Leader not been obliged to step in to rescue his Italian ally from the imbroglio in Southern Europe. The Soviet agents who had made the prediction lost all credibility as a result.144 The capitalist forces in Britain, including the exiled Polish government, seemed to Stalin’s narrow and suspicious mind to be feeding false information to him about German intentions in order to lure him into a battle. Surely in any case the German Leader would not invade while the conflict with Britain was still unresolved. When an ex-Communist soldier deserted the German forces on 21 June 1941 and swam across a river to tell the Russians on the other side that his unit had been given orders to invade the following morning, Stalin had him shot for spreading ‘disinformation’.

The point is, the situation is more complicated than idiots seem to think/

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Dreamcast, it’s thinking.

Do you think anyone actually reads this, Pizza babycakes :v

Stalin quite literally built Germany's panzer arm

llolcow downboated

Drama continues to he shit

Shilly is a regular not a cow.

Those aren't mutually exclusive

A cow must be up voted so that we can milk it. Regulars will continue to graze here.

That’s a solid point. Shill tends to mix the two behaviors though

Shill tends to mix the two behaviors though

True yet despite his proclamations, he swiftly returns so he'll always be here and we should cherish him because stinky Karen will one day take him from us.

Agreed. Our time with him is precious.

Every day is a gift.

The downvotes fuel his impotent rage

> thinking pizza is a regular lolcow

Yes drama indeed is turning to shit.

Wait this is pizzas new alt?

You've read the trilogy ? How is it ? I ask because I've the second one.

I think it's probably the best series one could read if they wanted to understand nazism, why it came into being, and the cultural trends and internal political workings of Germany starting from the 1880s on up.

Thanks I was interested in Nazi society (pre war) hence I got the second one.

Particularly the 2nd 3rd Reich. The first one was a abject failure. I wasn't aware that a trilogy was already in the works though. Pizza, you're always out in front of everything.

The Nazis were socialist, and the Soviets were state Capitalism though.

Nazis were absolutely not socialist, but because I suspect this is a troll I won't go any further.

Hitler was literally a representative of the volk (the people), and held absolute power over all corporations in the Reich. The means of production were owned by the workers, through the fuhrer, and the Soviets were jealous that Hitler achieved the worker state before they did.

This is about the level of historical knowledge I'd expect on /r/drama, which is to say sub 5th grade level.

Cope, pizza. The Nazi socialist state was so effective it took most of the rest of the world to put them down. This was the imperialism of the Soviets and the mayo alliance to crush the only true socialist revolution.

Not gonna work.

You were put down. In the future, refrain from speaking about things you have no knowledge about.

It worked so well, that we are still talking about it to this day. Viva la revolutión!

Awesome, add this one to the lost of arguments you’ve lost.

But then communists turn around and say shit like “if you have ten people talking to a Nazi, you have eleven Nazis”

The point is their zero tolerance policy is sort of hypocritical.

You know most commies do not care about the soviet union, defend the soviet union, or have anything in common with the soviet union right?

Most commies Ik are tankies. 🤫

commies do not care about the soviet union, defend the soviet union, or have anything in common with the soviet union right?

Then they are notrealcommies.

yet

From the third reich trilogy:

Holy shit my sides.

What exactly are you trying to say?

You're funny.

Do tell.

Your comments are very funny.

He thought what you said was funny.

Why would it be funny?

I don't know. You'd have to ask him.

I know you are retarded, but saying that they knew by 41 doesn't mean they didn't align with the nazi in good faith before.

The nazis were never going to ally with the soviets and the soviets knew it. Don't confuse your own historical illiteracy for my "retardation."

The nazis viewed the soviets as sworn racial enemies, the soviets were aware of this fact.

All of this Stalin ignored. Typically, he scrawled on the bottom of the Prague report: "English provocation! Investigate!" On May 19, Sorge predicted that 150 divisions were being readied by the Germans for an invasion of the Soviet Union. Stalin retorted with an expletive.

The result was that literally nothing was done to prepare for the German assault. Soviet planes were not camouflaged. Troops were not in defensive positions; indeed they were ordered not to occupy such positions, for fear of provoking the Germans. Worse, Stalin responded to the gathering storm with yet another purge of suspected threats to his own authority. In June 1941, on the eve of the tempest, around 300 senior service personnel were arrested, among them no fewer than 22 who had been awarded the highest Soviet military decoration.

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/12/books/arts/stalins-intelligence.html

Retard.

This doesn't conflict with anything I said. Stalin was delusional, but the entire point of stalling the Germans was to prepare the red army.

Did you read nothing you were linked?

Stalin and the soviets were bad, but there was never any intention to ally with them.

Absolute moron. This is evidently false if stalin chose to not prepare for nazis, because he trusted them.

You lost the argument as you always do so you attack me personnaly. Disappointing.

What does the following say:

At the same time, Stalin realized that, as he told graduating military cadets in Moscow on 5 May 1941, ‘War with Germany is inevitable.’ Molotov might be able to postpone it for two or three months, but in the meantime it was vital to ‘re-teach our army and our commanders. Educate them in the spirit of attack.’ Delivered to young officers as a rhetorical message for the future, this was not a statement of intent. Stalin did not believe that the Red Army would be ready to deal with the Germans until 1942 or perhaps even 1943. Not only had the General Staff not drawn up any plans for an attack on the German forces, it had no plans for a defence against them either. Although the Germans mounted a large and sophisticated deception plan to conceal the true nature of their intentions, Soviet intelligence began to send in accurate reports that the invasion was planned for around 22 June 1941. But Stalin would not listen. Earlier reports that the invasion plans were to become operational on 15 May 1941, though correct at the time, proved wrong when the Germans delayed Barbarossa in order to mount the invasion of Greece and Yugoslavia. Hitler later blamed Mussolini for the consequences, but in fact the weather in East-Central Europe in these weeks would have made an invasion of the Soviet Union inadvisable even had the German Leader not been obliged to step in to rescue his Italian ally from the imbroglio in Southern Europe. The Soviet agents who had made the prediction lost all credibility as a result.144 The capitalist forces in Britain, including the exiled Polish government, seemed to Stalin’s narrow and suspicious mind to be feeding false information to him about German intentions in order to lure him into a battle. Surely in any case the German Leader would not invade while the conflict with Britain was still unresolved. When an ex-Communist soldier deserted the German forces on 21 June 1941 and swam across a river to tell the Russians on the other side that his unit had been given orders to invade the following morning, Stalin had him shot for spreading ‘disinformation’.

This is from the 3rd reich trilogy.

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Say the guy who completely ignore that stalin literally sent mail to hitler asking them wether they would attack, hitler saying "ofc course not", and then stalin literally refusing any evidence otherwise, lmao.

I just linked you an actual page from a credible book on this. The entire point of this was so Stalin could stall a German invasion.

He was so delusional he thought he could buy them off with economic concessions:

Stalin hurriedly launched a futile policy of trying to appease the Germans by stepping up Soviet deliveries of Asian rubber and other supplies under the trade agreement signed in January 1941. As a dogmatic Marxist-Leninist, Stalin was convinced that Hitler’s regime was the tool of German monopoly capitalism, so that if he made available everything German business wanted, there would be no immediate reason to invade. Already, under trade provisions agreed under the Nazi-Soviet Pact early the previous year, the Soviet Union was supplying nearly three-quarters of Germany’s requirement of phosphates, over two-thirds of its imported asbestos, only a little less of its chrome ore, over half its manganese, over a third of its imported nickel, and, even more crucially, more than a third of its imported oil.140 Stalin personally vetoed proposals to disrupt the German military build-up by attacking across the Polish demarcation line. Reports from Soviet agents and even from members of the German embassy in Moscow that an invasion was imminent only convinced him that the Germans were playing hard-ball in their drive to extract economic concessions from him.

He sacked everyone and had everyone killed because it was becoming increasingly obvious he got bamboozled by the Germans. Stalin thought he was one step ahead of them, but in reality, one was step behind them.

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He sacked everyone and had everyone killed because it was becoming increasingly obvious he got bamboozled by the Germans.

lmao, you absolute retrard, litvinov sacking was before the pact. It led to it.

I can believe you unironically try talking about this shit when you don't even know who litvinov was.

Yet another argument lost by you because you are a living breathing expression of drunning kunninger or whatever it's written.

Let's go over this.

A) I have provided academic work supporting my point.

B) You have provided what?

Like what? Stalin had been getting bamboozled by the Germans since before the pact, I'm not exactly sure what argument it even is you're trying to make. You literally linked a new york times article saying the same thing I said, making the same argument the third reich trilogy does and thought it refuted my argument.

Yet another argument lost by you because you are a living breathing expression of drunning kunninger or whatever it's written.

The irony.

A) I have provided academic work supporting my point.

You have provided a complete misunderstanding of the basic history of the times, that's what you truly provided.

Now knowing who litvinov was make any argument you make about the epoch ridiculous.

Like what? Stalin had been getting bamboozled by the Germans since before the pact, I'm not exactly sure what argument it even is you're trying to make.

That the russians /wanted/ to ally with the nazis and trusted them.

The irony.

No u. Weak bantz by a weak man.

You have provided a complete misunderstanding of the basic history of the times, that's what you truly provided.

We're done here. That's from one of the most respected historians on the planet in relation to european history and especially nazism.

We're done here. That's from one of the most respected historians on the planet in relation to European history and especially nazism.

And you have obviously understood nothing of what he wrote if you are missing the sacking of litvinov and the complete change geopolitically this meant.

And I am telling you that you are an idiot. The stalling of Germany started before the 1940s. Stalin removed anyone that would hamper his ability to stall Germany out while the red army was prepared.

The best stalling idea ever was to help them invade a buffer state. Truly mastermind of stalling the commies were.

Everyone knows having the Germans on your border is having them half way in Poland. Which is exactly why China won't invade NK if the US does and establish a line away from their own border.

You're unironically a massive retard.

In case you didn't notice the pact was signed before the german invasion.

So the russian willingly signed away a buffer state and then helped destroy that buffer state jut that was tots because they were stalling an not at all related to the hate they had for poland for the 19-20 war.

In case anyone didn't know this, the Germans were going to invade Poland no matter what, and having the Germans half way into Poland is better than having them directly on your border.

1) it still end up with the german on the russian border, lmao.

2) While it might be a decent argument if the russians decided to invade after the german, it fall flat when you know they had already decided to invade poland far before the german did anything (once again the pact prove this).

1) it still end up with the german on the russian border, lmao.

Not really. Poland wasn't considered some vital part of the soviet union. It wasn't relevant.

2) While it might be a decent argument if the russians decided to invade after the german, it fall flat when you know they had already decided to invade poland far before the german did anything (once again the pact prove this).

Except I never denied the soviet union wanted to invade Poland either way. So did the Germans. The Soviet military was not match for the German military.

The pact was a stalling tactic. This is literally basic history.

Not really. Poland wasn't considered some vital part of the soviet union. It wasn't relevant.

Neither was the previous border, you retard.

Except I never denied the soviet union wanted to invade Poland either way. -

The pact was a stalling tactic.

Pick one and only one, fag.

I honestly don't think you can read.

And yet another victory for my superior debate prowess. Get dunked on pizza.

I mean, I know you're a retard, but surely you realize that the Chinese actually pushed the US back, and then let the DPRK continue to exist, right? Because the equivalent to what happened to Poland would be invading NK with the US, and then dividing it between the two of them.

If the US invaded NK right now, China would also likely invade to keep the US from being directly on their border.

In the case of Poland, Germany didn't need help invading, and the Soviets didn't even really speed things up all that much. The bottom line is, claiming Poland was some effective buffer state is outright false. Especially when your options are "Germany directly on your border" and "Germany is half way into Poland."

China let NK keep existing because they stopped the US advance, had the US kept going, that wouldn't have been the case most likely. So, as is almost always the case with this sub, you're the retard and have confused your lack of knowledge for me being retarded.

Same reason basic historical facts are downvoted, same reason objective reality is downvoted. You haven't formed your opinion based on any relevant academic knowledge of the subject, you've seen me post something and your kneejerk reaction is to attack me and take an indefensible position to make it seem valid.

Except that China actually fought the US, and made a buffer state.

The USSR literally didn't do that. Instead they agreed to invade with their "enemy", moved their border right onto their "enemy's" border, and then kept supplying their "enemy", while not preparing any defenses.

Either they literally were dumber than a toddler, or they weren't planning on fighting the people that they were trying to form an alliance with.

Except that China actually fought the US, and made a buffer state.

China literally intervened to keep the US off of their borders dude.

The USSR literally didn't do that. Instead they agreed to invade with their "enemy", moved their border right onto their "enemy's" border, and then kept supplying their "enemy", while not preparing any defenses.

Except, the soviet military was no match for the German military. There was no option for the soviets to invade, stop the German military, and prop Poland up. The chinese had this ability in the case of Korea.

Either they literally were dumber than a toddler, or they weren't planning on fighting the people that they were trying to form an alliance with.

It is a basic historical fact that the soviets knew a war with Germany was coming and they were trying to stall the Germans out until the red army was ready.

Seriously:

At the same time, Stalin realized that, as he told graduating military cadets in Moscow on 5 May 1941, ‘War with Germany is inevitable.’ Molotov might be able to postpone it for two or three months, but in the meantime it was vital to ‘re-teach our army and our commanders. Educate them in the spirit of attack.’ Delivered to young officers as a rhetorical message for the future, this was not a statement of intent. Stalin did not believe that the Red Army would be ready to deal with the Germans until 1942 or perhaps even 1943. Not only had the General Staff not drawn up any plans for an attack on the German forces, it had no plans for a defence against them either. Although the Germans mounted a large and sophisticated deception plan to conceal the true nature of their intentions, Soviet intelligence began to send in accurate reports that the invasion was planned for around 22 June 1941. But Stalin would not listen. Earlier reports that the invasion plans were to become operational on 15 May 1941, though correct at the time, proved wrong when the Germans delayed Barbarossa in order to mount the invasion of Greece and Yugoslavia. Hitler later blamed Mussolini for the consequences, but in fact the weather in East-Central Europe in these weeks would have made an invasion of the Soviet Union inadvisable even had the German Leader not been obliged to step in to rescue his Italian ally from the imbroglio in Southern Europe. The Soviet agents who had made the prediction lost all credibility as a result.144 The capitalist forces in Britain, including the exiled Polish government, seemed to Stalin’s narrow and suspicious mind to be feeding false information to him about German intentions in order to lure him into a battle. Surely in any case the German Leader would not invade while the conflict with Britain was still unresolved. When an ex-Communist soldier deserted the German forces on 21 June 1941 and swam across a river to tell the Russians on the other side that his unit had been given orders to invade the following morning, Stalin had him shot for spreading ‘disinformation’.

Yeah, and they actually pushed the US back, they didn't plan an invasion with the US, and then move their border closer to their enemy.

They literally didn't accomplish any of what you were saying, while trying to form an alliance with the nazis, while supplying the nazis with war material.

Literally none of the facts align with what you're saying, and all you're quoting is that the USSR didn't actually do anything to prepare a defense, which they would have done if they had "defensively" invaded Poland.

Man, it was not a defensive invasion. It was them trying to appease the nazis, they likely would have invaded anyway.

Stalin thought the nazis were under the control of capitalism, which was the point of supplying them:

Stalin hurriedly launched a futile policy of trying to appease the Germans by stepping up Soviet deliveries of Asian rubber and other supplies under the trade agreement signed in January 1941. As a dogmatic Marxist-Leninist, Stalin was convinced that Hitler’s regime was the tool of German monopoly capitalism, so that if he made available everything German business wanted, there would be no immediate reason to invade. Already, under trade provisions agreed under the Nazi-Soviet Pact early the previous year, the Soviet Union was supplying nearly three-quarters of Germany’s requirement of phosphates, over two-thirds of its imported asbestos, only a little less of its chrome ore, over half its manganese, over a third of its imported nickel, and, even more crucially, more than a third of its imported oil.140 Stalin personally vetoed proposals to disrupt the German military build-up by attacking across the Polish demarcation line. Reports from Soviet agents and even from members of the German embassy in Moscow that an invasion was imminent only convinced him that the Germans were playing hard-ball in their drive to extract economic concessions from him.

Everything Stalin did was to appease the nazis and stall a war until the red army was ready. He thought for sure the nazis would not invade, he was just wrong, he misjudged the situation.

That's literally not the point you were making. You were trying to say they invaded to keep a buffer.

Thanks for telling me I was right, fam.

No, I argued against the retarded notion that if they wanted a buffer they'd not invade Poland.

Poland was still a buffer, it was just a country they intended to invade you historically illiterate ape.

Except you were literally trying to say that it was like China pushing back the US to keep NK as a buffer.

C'mon man, you look like a bumbling retard.

I used that s an example you mongoloid. Someone was claiming the soviets would have simply propped up Poland if they wanted a buffer.

But they literally didn't use it that way. They didn't accomplish anything for their defense. The facts dont back you up buddy.

It's hilarious watching you say it wasn't for a buffer, and that it was for a buffer simultaneously. It really makes you look like you have no clue about what's going on. You're literally arguing against yourself.

No shit it didn't work, that's a fact. That doesn't mean it wasn't an intention.

If the Germans invade Poland alone, does the soviet union lose any chance of a buffer?

Your idea of a buffer is to get closer to your enemy, not plan any defense, supply your enemy with war materials and then not believe any Intel that says they're gonna invade.

You're a retard if you think that any of that signifies trying to maintain a defense.

I guess you'd hand a mugger your gun and wallet before they even mugged you, to appease them.

Holy shit, let me try to word this in a way you can comprehend.

A) Yes, Poland was being used as a buffer.

B) Yes, the soviets lose any form of a buffer if the Germans invade Poland alone.

C) The soviets knew war with Germany was coming. Everything Stalin did was appeasement to stall the Germans out. This is objective reality.

You're a retard if you think that any of that signifies trying to maintain a defense.

No, I'm someone with a basic education on the subject. The fact you think the soviets were not preparing for war with Germany is completely ridiculous.

For example:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3223834/Stalin-planned-to-send-a-million-troops-to-stop-Hitler-if-Britain-and-France-agreed-pact.html

The offer of a military force to help contain Hitler was made by a senior Soviet military delegation at a Kremlin meeting with senior British and French officers, two weeks before war broke out in 1939.

The new documents, copies of which have been seen by The Sunday Telegraph, show the vast numbers of infantry, artillery and airborne forces which Stalin's generals said could be dispatched, if Polish objections to the Red Army crossing its territory could first be overcome.

But the British and French side - briefed by their governments to talk, but not authorised to commit to binding deals - did not respond to the Soviet offer, made on August 15, 1939. Instead, Stalin turned to Germany, signing the notorious non-aggression treaty with Hitler barely a week later

You have no idea what you are talking about.

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They were preparing for war in the terms of:

Supplying their enemy

Not believing Intel that they would go to war

Not preparing any defenses

And seeking an alliance with their enemy.

You really must be a retard if you think any of that is actually preparing a defense. You're literally too stupid to look at the Soviet actions.

Supplying their enemy

Appeasement, as already shown.

Not believing Intel that they would go to war

Because Stalin was brainwashed and thought he could stop them from invading with economic concessions and didn't react well because it was becoming obvious he got rused.

Not preparing any defenses

  • They massively increased the production of war materials.

  • They built some 9000 new factories in the 1930s.

  • They were building new tanks (the t-34 for example.)

  • They built some 40 new military academies.

Stalin was in the process of building a stronger military, one that could compete with the Germans.

For some extra reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy

Vladimir Rezun, a former officer of the Soviet military intelligence and a defector to the UK, considered the claim in his 1987 book Icebreaker: Who Started the Second World War under the pseudonym Viktor Suvorov[5] and again in several subsequent books. He argued that Soviet ground forces were well-organized and mobilized en masse along the German–Soviet frontier for a Soviet invasion of Europe slated for Sunday, July 6, 1941 but were unprepared to defend their own territory.

One of Suvorov's pieces of evidence favoring the theory of an impending Soviet attack was his claim regarding the maps and phrasebooks issued to Soviet troops. Military topographic maps, unlike other military supplies, are strictly local and cannot be used elsewhere than in the intended operational area. Suvorov claims Soviet units were issued with maps of Germany and German-occupied territory, and phrasebooks including questions about SA offices—SA offices were found only in German territory proper. In contrast, maps of Soviet territory were scarce. Notably, after the German attack, the officer responsible for maps, Lieutenant General M.K. Kudryavtsev, was not punished by Stalin, who was known for extreme punishments after failures to obey his orders. According to Suvorov, this demonstrates that Kudryavtsev was obeying the orders of Stalin, who simply did not expect a German attack.

Suvorov offers as another piece of evidence the extensive effort Stalin took to conceal general mobilization by manipulating the laws setting the conscription age. That allowed Stalin to provide the expansive build-up of the Red Army. Since there was no universal military draft in the Soviet Union until 1939, by enacting the universal military draft on 1 September 1939 (the date World War II had begun), and by changing the minimum age for joining the Red Army from 21 to 18, Stalin triggered a mechanism which achieved a dramatic increase in the military strength of the Red Army.

This specific law on mobilization allowed the Red Army to increase its army of 1,871,600 men in 1939 to 5,081,000 in the spring of 1941 under secrecy to avoid alarming the rest of the world.[7] Eighteen million reservists were also drafted.[citation needed] The duration of service was 2 years. Thus, according to supporters of this theory, the Red Army had to enter a war by 1 September 1941 or the drafted soldiers would have to be released from service.

You are again, completely clueless.

I've known more coherent downies.

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Its hilarious watching you try to argue all of these independently, but arent looking at the picture of trying to ally with the germans, mounting an invasion with them, and ignoring warnings that they were about to invade. They contradict each other, and your examples refute your own arguments.

Literally none of what you say is close to logical.

This is one of the worst post I have EVER seen. Delete it.

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You came at me, thought you knew what you were talking about, and then linked an argument that supported MY arugment and thought it supported yours.

Funny, it's usually you doing that

Maybe in your dreams. But I won't go into your illiteracy, it's well documented.

Prove it.

Cope you Soviet apologist

I don't give a shit about the soviet union you historically illiterate moron. They were garbage, that doesn't make you right. You don't get to say factually incorrect things and not get put down because the soviets were bad too.

Christ dude you're such a neoliberal shill

It's literally "Hitler killed Hitler so Hitler is good actually" levels of logic.

Their point is that victims of Stalinism include the Nazis but it’s not like we aren’t allowed to say “victims of Nazism” because that includes the brits.

Based furry

The fact that they are saying that it’s not real communism is immediately contradicted by the fact that Russia’s main political party was the communist party. Also, Russia and Germany at the time shared many similarities (what I mean is that they both had multi-turreted tanks that were extremely shoddy and the designers thought having More Dakka was more important than reliability, to sum it up they were both atrocious people whose military engineers were wonderfully stupid beyond belief

The fact that they are saying that it’s not real communism is immediately contradicted by the fact that Russia’s main political party was the communist party.

Not to be a negative Nancy but just because they're a party doesn't mean that they were actually any good at their jobs, I mean the Nazi's were supposed to get rid of Russian communists, when do you think there were less Russian communists in Germany, 1932 or 1946?

That's like saying that democracy sucks because the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is an awful shithole. While communism in the authoritarian socialism sense of the word is a fucking nightmare like all authoritarian ideologies the argument that because some shitty dictatorship advertises itself as something it means it's true is fucking retarded and actually allows these assholes to control the narrative.

China advertises itself as communist but it's a fascist dictatorship that relies on some rather extreme nationalist elements and it's more capitalist than Europe.

The only reason I wrote this comment is to have an excuse to say the word “Dakka” because there’s never enough Dakka

People out here acting like stalins gonna jump up out of the grave and suck them off for their tweets.

i wanna go back to the blue room

We have no Real Communism, why can't we have no real Facism lol

Because it's working well in Singapore and China, and people are triggered about it. People are actually claiming notrealfascism, but to discredit fascism instead of making excuses for it. It's pretty funny.

Note "working well" in terms of aquiring power, not that I'd want to actually live under it.

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Sadiq Khan ultimate centrist confirmed.

Inshallah.

Victims of Stalinism? You mean Nazi war criminals? You want us to remember Nazi war criminals along with Nazi victims?

This is disgusting.

Casually forgetting stalinism also killed up 6 million of their own people.

Stalin also really hated my country so he decided to kill and deport 1/3 of them.

I don't think any of them register that it's a Europe-wide recognized rememberance day lol

Clearly Khan hasn't read the communist manifesto if he did he would know that communism hasn't been tried and the ussr was actually state capitalism

Remember the victims of Hitlerism and Communism.

t. Balboist

Hitler killed 40mil really; 18m in holocaust and 22m in war.

denying the Holocaust

Neo Nazi scum!

Denying the Holodomor

Great job, comrade!

Praxis

They aren't comparable, because the people were mass murdered for different reasons. Apples and oranges.

That's true. That's why you cant compare deaths from capitalism to deaths from communism too.

Clearly we need a superior system capable of setting the new high score.

Clearly what the Soviets were missing (and which is integral to every righteous government) was the true faith. Cathbol Government is the only Good Government.

A young boy for every worker.

Shut up prod 😠🐻

Am Jew. We are more highly evolved than all you Christian pussies. We evolved crippling genetic disorders through inbreeding, which in turn give us super-powers of subversion. The day of the pope is coming.

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Abortion has already genocided more blax ahd latinx bodies than any ideology. This is the power of radical centrism.

This is why I'll never understand why drama is so anti-pibble. Pibbles are picking up the scraps that plan-B and abortion missed. They are the last line of defense in the anti-reproductive world.

Plan PP- Post-natal abortion Pibble

Capitalism is an economic system, it hasn't killed anyone.

Communism is a system that governs everything in a society, including policies on politics and policing the populace.

If you're going to say that Communism never killed anyone then I guess Fascism never killed anyone either.

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true radical centrists want to gas the eastern europeans and jews and make the africans and irish starve

wait, isn't that what nazis did and I kinda tried to implement it?

I mean Italians gased Africans but it was mostly gommies that fucked up their economy when they became independent

Holy shit... why the hell are these communist scum defending Stalin???

Tankies will defend everything about the Soviet Union as long as it fits into the broader agenda of communism. They are truly the scum of the earth.

Stalin was just a troubled white kid, clearly, we need common sense tank control.

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half Georgian

White

🤔

Georgians are white. It's the other half, the russian one which make one question wether he was tho.

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I'm no leftist, but I'll take the bodies from Stalinism over the new far left vanguard of: fat acceptance, hair dye, and creepy sex shit. New Soviet Man was hawt.

You sound like a person I used to work with. He'd do these challenges to make someone seem like a good person.

"Hitler did nothing wrong. He loved the jews so much that he tried to kill them all so no more jew babies could be born and suffer"

Sounds like your former coworker liked to refer to himself in the third person. A little creepy, but fucking based!

he actually did...

I know. We have amazing predictive powers.

Actually the KKK helps all races. They just predominantly focus on whites because the whites suffer most atm.

Let's face it, solving white issues usually helps other races as well.

Nick, is that you?!

The USSR wasn’t real communism, but also Stalin did nothing wrong.

Unfortunately, this is part and parcel of living next to Rose Twitter.

Victims of Stalinism? You mean Nazi war criminals? You want us to remember Nazi war criminals along with Nazi victims?

This is disgusting.

Arrogant and Wrong.

A winning combination

Victims of Stalinism? You mean Nazi war criminals?

All those Ukrainians were obviously Nazi spies in disguise.

Crazy how the further commie glorification from the last couple decades was a che t shirt, or just a couple ignorant college tankies looking to get laid. Now they're super duper cereal and they forgot about all of the massive atrocities that made commies in the top 3 or 5 hated groups from history.

that made commies in the top 3 or 5 hated groups from history.

I’d like to see that list, and see how many I can cross off

Ask a true eastern European what they're list is, they're based.

First they laugh at you.

Then they laugh at more of you.

Then, eventually, you have to get a job.

They were war criminals because they didn't share a moldy loaf of bread between 20 people.

Nazis weren’t real fascism.

I'm fed up with this woh-rld

That's like calling it Hitlerism and Stalinism. Why not call it Nazism and Bolshevism.

They look like you’d expect.

But... islam?

Day of the tanks when?

Ceacescu? He was a notoriously pro -west autocrat and he was not communist.

We need a way to ping this lady across websites.

It sure is odd that all these retarded commies are never from a country that use to be ruled by Communism. 🤔🤔🤔🤔

Lmao, could you imagine people minimizing or revising the holocaust the same way they do to the holodomor and only getting this amount of social backlash ....

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First time I’ve ever agreed with Sadiq Kunt