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Unironically yeah. When the one dude was like "oh you shouldn't have to see an anti-semetic client if you're a jеw" and the dude just kept btfo'ing the guy by saying "yeah I do, bitch, value differences isn't enough of a reason to end a client-patient relationship, learn basic ethical guidelines" I was shocked to see that therapists can be so fucking based.
I hate to burst your bubble, but if you really want to “fire” a patient from your practice, then you can usually invent an acceptable reason to do so. It’s easier to do in some jurisdictions than in others, but just think about this: physicians can and do find ways to avoid seeing patients with a history of frivolous litigation, and that’s much more ethically thorny than keeping someone who might lowkey want you dead out of your office.
I suppose it’s possible that therapists are more ethically cücked sound than doctors are, but I seriously doubt it.
How did this even come up in a fucking med school lecture? “Excuse me professor, since we’re discussing the Krebs cycle, can I just say that MAGApedes are subhuman scum who should be left to die?” Completely irrelevant, besides being really stupid to say in front of someone who might have a hand in writing your committee letter when it’s time to find a residency.
Like, I don’t even totally disagree with the sentiment—I’d rather do family medicine in New York City and pay an arm and a leg to live in a shoebox in the Bronx than do orthopedics in Oklahoma, because flyover culture fucking sucks—but god damn, there is a time and a place to keep your mouth shut about certain things. This sounds like the wannabe Ben Shapiro at UVA who tried to own the libs with FACTS and LOGIC at an optional lecture and wound up getting suspended.
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Yeah therapy is pretty hilarious. You got these people who are highly educated and experienced at...getting people to self reflect. Like if you have above a 80 iq you should be able to do that yourself...but thanks doc I guess. How about some benzos while I'm here?
Yeah I'm fairly convinced therapy is for legitimate smooth brains who are incapable of acting without someone else pushing them to do the thing. It doesn't matter in particular what the therapist says, because the person will totally believe it because they have no personal will. I honestly feel terrible for the hardy farmworker or cobbler 300 years ago who worked hard to give his great great grandchildren ... this
Yeah I'm fairly convinced therapy is for legitimate smooth brains who are incapable of acting without someone else pushing them to do the thing. It doesn't matter in particular what the therapist says, because the person will totally believe it because they have no personal will. I honestly feel terrible for the hardy farmworker or cobbler 300 years ago who worked hard to give his great great grandchildren ... this
I am convinced that the high achieving/smart people who go to therapy only do so because they are scared to open up to their real friends. They like to give off an aura of being in control, and exposing their fears/uncertainty/general neuroticism to others goes counter to that. They pay someone to be their confidential and nonjudgmental friend so they can get stuff off their chest without doing the scary thing (being vulnerable with people who aren't paid to be nice to you) or driving away their friends.
No it isn't, therapycel, just read the thread right there
For instance from this thread
One tip is to never engage in debate with your client. Often these hard core right people will try to pin you down and ask about your views, but this just sets up an adversarial situation that is not good for therapy. It can be really hard to turn off my own personal views and not focus on trying to change their extreme world view, but the reality is that is not my job and I do believe that helping a client to feel better will help them rejoin main stream society.
This isn't something a fried does, it's something a manipulator does. One doesn't attempt to actually challenge the ideas about the world, but rather play on people's oversocialization to change their minds in a way that has no reasonable basis.
Maybe friend was the wrong word. Basically you pay someone to listen to you whine and maybe dispense some advice that you may or may not actually follow. It's a huge waste of time and money.
I'd also posit that due to soymayod being unable to distinguish good ones from bad ones, the advice is terrible ie the person saying "hey maybe stop eating ice cream for breakfast" and the person saying "do it it's self care love acceptance validation therapy" the second person probably gets more clients and so they all become the second
I think the people who are truly lost forever in the MDE fever swamp would be unlikely to even visit a therapist, since this whole field originated with Sigmund Freud (yes, I know that not all therapy is Freudian, now leave me alone) ... and, well, good luck finding a provider who isn’t Jewish if you live in a big city.
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1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-10-07
That’s actually a pretty nuanced and balanced conversation for Reddit
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1 IHeartCommyMommy 2019-10-07
Unironically yeah. When the one dude was like "oh you shouldn't have to see an anti-semetic client if you're a jеw" and the dude just kept btfo'ing the guy by saying "yeah I do, bitch, value differences isn't enough of a reason to end a client-patient relationship, learn basic ethical guidelines" I was shocked to see that therapists can be so fucking based.
2 Can_The_SRDine 2019-10-07
I hate to burst your bubble, but if you really want to “fire” a patient from your practice, then you can usually invent an acceptable reason to do so. It’s easier to do in some jurisdictions than in others, but just think about this: physicians can and do find ways to avoid seeing patients with a history of frivolous litigation, and that’s much more ethically thorny than keeping someone who might lowkey want you dead out of your office.
I suppose it’s possible that therapists are more ethically
cückedsound than doctors are, but I seriously doubt it.1 [deleted] 2019-10-07
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3 Can_The_SRDine 2019-10-07
How did this even come up in a fucking med school lecture? “Excuse me professor, since we’re discussing the Krebs cycle, can I just say that MAGApedes are subhuman scum who should be left to die?” Completely irrelevant, besides being really stupid to say in front of someone who might have a hand in writing your committee letter when it’s time to find a residency.
Like, I don’t even totally disagree with the sentiment—I’d rather do family medicine in New York City and pay an arm and a leg to live in a shoebox in the Bronx than do orthopedics in Oklahoma, because flyover culture fucking sucks—but god damn, there is a time and a place to keep your mouth shut about certain things. This sounds like the wannabe Ben Shapiro at UVA who tried to own the libs with FACTS and LOGIC at an optional lecture and wound up getting suspended.
2 Kaiser-romulus 2019-10-07
We have communications classes and such. Then role play patients and such.
2 Can_The_SRDine 2019-10-07
Even stupider. That’s basically tanking your evaluation in the class.
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1 insicknessanddeath 2019-10-07
I mean, its fairly balanced considering it's not tied to reality.
https://reddit.com/r/psychotherapy/comments/dbrtt4/therapy_for_the_altright/f23kra2
This is the top comment, and oh boy does this mean absolutely nothing lmao
1 BasicallyADoctor 2019-10-07
Yeah therapy is pretty hilarious. You got these people who are highly educated and experienced at...getting people to self reflect. Like if you have above a 80 iq you should be able to do that yourself...but thanks doc I guess. How about some benzos while I'm here?
1 insicknessanddeath 2019-10-07
Yeah I'm fairly convinced therapy is for legitimate smooth brains who are incapable of acting without someone else pushing them to do the thing. It doesn't matter in particular what the therapist says, because the person will totally believe it because they have no personal will. I honestly feel terrible for the hardy farmworker or cobbler 300 years ago who worked hard to give his great great grandchildren ... this
1 insicknessanddeath 2019-10-07
Yeah I'm fairly convinced therapy is for legitimate smooth brains who are incapable of acting without someone else pushing them to do the thing. It doesn't matter in particular what the therapist says, because the person will totally believe it because they have no personal will. I honestly feel terrible for the hardy farmworker or cobbler 300 years ago who worked hard to give his great great grandchildren ... this
1 AlveolarPressure 2019-10-07
I am convinced that the high achieving/smart people who go to therapy only do so because they are scared to open up to their real friends. They like to give off an aura of being in control, and exposing their fears/uncertainty/general neuroticism to others goes counter to that. They pay someone to be their confidential and nonjudgmental friend so they can get stuff off their chest without doing the scary thing (being vulnerable with people who aren't paid to be nice to you) or driving away their friends.
1 insicknessanddeath 2019-10-07
That sounds like a roundabout way of saying you're a mayo
1 Can_The_SRDine 2019-10-07
So what you’re saying is that most people would benefit from seeing a therapist
1 insicknessanddeath 2019-10-07
They'd benefit from being airdropped into a forest with no supplies
2 Can_The_SRDine 2019-10-07
We’d benefit from them being airdropped into a forest with no supplies.
1 RBLXTalk 2019-10-07
Yeah that’s why I’m becoming a psychiatrist so I can give people benzo and addy addictions instead
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-10-07
The ideal combo tbh
1 AlveolarPressure 2019-10-07
Therapy is just paying someone to be your nonjudgmental friend.
1 insicknessanddeath 2019-10-07
No it isn't, therapycel, just read the thread right there
For instance from this thread
One tip is to never engage in debate with your client. Often these hard core right people will try to pin you down and ask about your views, but this just sets up an adversarial situation that is not good for therapy. It can be really hard to turn off my own personal views and not focus on trying to change their extreme world view, but the reality is that is not my job and I do believe that helping a client to feel better will help them rejoin main stream society.
This isn't something a fried does, it's something a manipulator does. One doesn't attempt to actually challenge the ideas about the world, but rather play on people's oversocialization to change their minds in a way that has no reasonable basis.
2 AlveolarPressure 2019-10-07
Maybe friend was the wrong word. Basically you pay someone to listen to you whine and maybe dispense some advice that you may or may not actually follow. It's a huge waste of time and money.
2 insicknessanddeath 2019-10-07
I'd also posit that due to soymayod being unable to distinguish good ones from bad ones, the advice is terrible ie the person saying "hey maybe stop eating ice cream for breakfast" and the person saying "do it it's self care love acceptance validation therapy" the second person probably gets more clients and so they all become the second
1 dootwthesickness_II 2019-10-07
I think the people who are truly lost forever in the MDE fever swamp would be unlikely to even visit a therapist, since this whole field originated with Sigmund Freud (yes, I know that not all therapy is Freudian, now leave me alone) ... and, well, good luck finding a provider who isn’t Jewish if you live in a big city.
1 KaaraRaven 2019-10-07
Where's the drama?
2 fernguts 2019-10-07
Seriously, sensible discussion has no place in this subreddit.
1 diggity_md 2019-10-07
Stop cooming to art of raven dickgirls and read the multiple paragraphs of argumentation you sp*rg
1 mackson2000 2019-10-07
The first rule of r/Drama is that you don't have to post drama so long as its niche enough.
1 MzCherryBlossom 2019-10-07
No therapist worth their salt would be hanging around Reddit looking for advice or giving it.
1 Osterion 2019-10-07
Therapists r like brain jannies who don't do it for free. Respect 4 that
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