It was a twofer - do you want the "the media is biased as fuck" redpill or the "it's super easy to get away with killing black kids" redpill?
Of course the "the overly political prosecutor who initially pandered to the gun lobby by declining to charge Zimmerman, and who then over-corrected in the face of a backlash and charged Zimmerman with murder when he should have just tried Zimmerman for manslaughter because that is the crime he actually committed" pill is also available but nobody seems to want that one.
manslaughter because that is the crime he actually committed
I'm not sure he did. The evidence suggests that he was on the ground having his head slammed against the concrete when he fired. It seems to be a solid self defense case.
The prosecution sucked balls. Overcharging was fucking dumb, I dunno how fl law works but in most civilized areas the state can bring multiple tiered offences for the same occurrence.
Zimmerman provoked Martin by following hm and escalated the situation by introducing a gun into a fist fight. Both provocation and escalation can void a self defense claim
He was also told not to bring a gun with him on neighborhood watch and he was also told to not get out of his car in the first place. He put himself in the situation to get fucked.
Yep, he sure did. Still doesn't mean he should get murdered for it. The forensic evidence is that Trevon was on top of him slamming his head against the road when he was shot. He was walking back to his truck when Trevon attacked him. Nothing he did justifies Trevon attacking him. Trevon beating his head against the street clearly justifies him fearing for his life and using deadly measures to defend himself.
We (rightfully) say anyone who says a girl walking home at night in a city is asking for trouble then we just act like "Escalating a situation" justifies getting your head bashed in lmao
The way I look at it, Zimmerman fucked all kinds of shit here and is a ridiculous little asshole - but nobody is obligated to let someone kill them no matter how many mistakes they made. If you're being choked unconscious, GnP'd, etc - you are in imminent danger of death and hoping the dude will stop is not a reasonable course of action. Whatever weapon you have on you, you should use it.
When you're on the other side of it, even in a "normal fight", you should understand what you're doing and the sort of escalation that represents. That's also a risk. Really, nike-fu is almost always best.
Yeah but knowing "who started it, and why?" matters.
If you pick a fight in a bar, start losing, then shoot the other person dead, it's murder.
And if George Zimmerman was operating outside the bounds of what is legal for a neighborhood watch to do (by pursing or engaging with this kid), I would argue that any resulting physical altercation is George's fault.
Basically, you can't pretend to be a police officer. If someone does something that normally only trained law enforcement officers are allowed to do, and someone dies as a result, it's their fault.
George wanted to play cop, got himself in over his head, and Trayvon died because of it.
Following someone isn't assault you fucking retard. Imagine thinking that "not doing what a 911 operator says" is enough to void the right of self-defense. If george followed him into his own property, cornered him, or drew a firearm first then it's fair game. What he did was pretty much harassment.
Whoever said anything about assault? It does not have to be assault to be illegal.
Either way, if you step outside the law, harass someone, pick a fight, start to lose, and then shoot the other person dead, you are on the hook for manslaughter at the least.
The whole reason why private citizens are not supposed to do policing is that without the proper training, more often then not, they would just end up getting into 100% unnecessary physical altercations that escalate out of control until some is dead or seriously injured.
Could be the reason why what I said makes sense is cause it's correct?
"Vigilante:
a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority"
George Zimmerman wanted to play cop. He was in Neighborhood Watch but that was not enough. He went past what he was legally allowed to do and got in over his head. And as a result someone died. That crime should not go unpunished.
"For example, neighborhood watches work with local police, but they have no authority to make arrests or take actions, as that is typically reserved for police officers. Thus, when a neighborhood watch takes matters into its own hands, instead of sharing information with local peace officers, it may be considered an act of vigilantism."
When Zimmerman got out of his car to follow and confront Trayvon, it was a crime.
You quote an extremely vague summary (not even an actual law lmao) and just declare him guilty all on your own. Just admit you think it was fucked up in general instead of trying to sound smart by half assedly using lawyer jew-speak.
I'm not a lawyer. And neither are you. But every single person on here is trying to either declare someone guilty or innocent all on their own. No need to single me out.
And I am not "trying to sound smart". If what I say sounds smart, maybe it is. If it sounds right, maybe it is.
You should at least consider the possibility that when George Zimmerman ignored the authorities and ran off to pursue Trayvon, that it was a criminal act of Vigilantism, and that Trayvon's death at the very least may have been manslaughter.
In that 911 call, the authorities told Zimmerman not to chase after Trayvon. But Zimmerman chased him with a gun, picked a fight with him, and shot him.
And yet if he had just stayed in his car until police showed up like he was told to do then nobody dies, nobody gets their ass beat, and nobody knows who George Zimmerman or Treyvon Martin are.
Zimmerman escalated the situation as soon as he got out of the car like he was explicitly told not to do. He started a fight that he was told not to start and ended it with a gun he was told not to have. He went rogue and brought it on himself.
Nobody deserved to die that day but George Zimmerman is the one who set the wheels in motion by ignoring both written and verbal commands about how to watch the neighborhood.
The initiation of violence, which is marked by the first aggressive physical contact, determines who is at fault for a fight. Youâre not legally allowed to lay hands on people that annoy you. Sweaty.
Maybe Martin was standing his ground from a grown man who was stalking him? You ever think of that? Martin committed no crime and was minding his own business. Zimmerman was the aggressor in this situation. Weâll never hear Martins side of the story because a wannabe cop coward murdered him
So Martin attacked Zimmerman for no reason, is that what youâre saying? I Don't know about you but if someone is following me for no reason I'm going to defend myself.
You're not defending yourself if no violent act has been committed against you prior to your engaging of the perceived threat.
Should Invader Zimmerman acted the way he did before everything became physical? No. Was his life endangered when Trayvon Martin was on top of him and pounding his skull into the pavement? Yes. To the best of what the evidence available suggested, there's nothing proving that Zimmerman got physical with Martin first. What the evidence did prove was that Martin had at that point exceeded the threshold of force necessary for self defense and in doing so became the aggressor. When that junction was reached in their interaction Zimmerman's fear for his life was valid and his use of lethal force was justified in the eyes of the law.
I don't agree with Zimmerman's actions keding up to the physical altercation. However, his use of lethal force was legal.
â.To the best of what the evidence available suggested, there's nothing proving that Zimmerman got physical with Martin first.â
The only evidence available is Zimmermanâs testimony; of course, he going to play the victim. Zimmerman called the cops and was told to stay in the car, which he didn't. He got out and followed Martin. Who knows what happened after that. Weâll never know, because the other side of the story is dead.
The stand your ground law is bullshit because you can start a confrontation, get your ass kicked, kill someone and then claim self defence.
The kid was walking home from the store. He was murdered for the simple fact of being black.
The chump Zimmerman acted like a wannabe cop following a black kid around for no reason. the black kid stood up for himself and kick the shit out out the coward. In short that's what happened. Zimmerman is a hero to all cowards
You're aware that Trayvon left the house that night to go commit a crime, right? It just might have played a part in why he didn't want to stop and talk to someone.
No, but you said he didn't commit a crime which means one of two things: either you're ignorant to the details of the trial or you're ignorant to the law. Which one is it? I'm guessing you made up your mind as soon as Obama gave his "coulda been my son" marching orders and figured there's no reason for you to watch a smart persons trial and have your mind all confused and stuff so this is the first you're hearing about Trayvon's intentions that evening. Sucks to suck, don't it?
Not sure who either of those people are, or what your obsession is, but I look like Ross from Friends if that helps. I take it you're interested? Not sure why else you'd ask what I look like. Kinda weird, but okay.
So what crime did Martin commit?
Do we need to go over lean being illegal again? I really thought we nailed that.
I made up my mind when a grown-ass man shot a kid for being black
So you're simple, we get it man. Trials aren't for everyone. I bet you make the best drool puddles, don't you wittle boy?
Stop lying. You look like Cesar Sayoc. Bottom of the barrel white trash. Ross from friends ha ha ha yeah ok Cesar.
As I said, I thought you were joking at first about the lean comment, but youâre not. I didn't realize I was going back and forth with a moron. Regardless of your moronic assumptions, what Martin purchased at the gas station is not a crime; him walking back from the gas station is not a crime. He did nothing wrong except walking while being black.
Why do you think Martin was making lean? What's your proof? Or is that just you making racist assumptions?
And even if he was making lean who gives a shit, this America, he can do what he wants.
Everyone smarter than me is a racist? That's the dumbest shit I ever heard, but I don't expect much, especially from a person who thinks purchasing skittles and fruit juice is justification for murder â deadbeat racist.
When a man is clinically depressed and his significant other thinks so little of him they sleep in separate beds in their own house he becomes like a dead battery. Drained of life and depleted of value.
Zimmerman called the cops; the cops told Zimmerman to stay in the car, and he didn't. Zimmerman got out of his car and approached Martin. Zimmerman was the aggressor who was explicitly told to stay in his car.
If some guy called the cops on me I would wait for the cops to arrive. If the guy got in my face and told me what I'm I doing here, I'd tell him to fuck off, and if he got aggressive with me I'd get aggressive right back.
No, the 911 operator told Zimmerman he doesn't have to follow Martin.
Zimmerman got out of his car
Yeah, because the path that Martin took is too small for a car.
and approached Martin.
No Zimmerman was waiting 70 yards away from Martin, at the entrance of the street of Martin's house, who was already at his home's front door, chatting on the phone with his friend.
Then Martin decided that assaulting Zimmerman would be fun, so he ran back down the street to where Zimmerman was waiting for the cops.
Martin assaulted Zimmerman, not the other way around. We know this because:
the witness testimony.
Zimmerman knew the cops would arrive any minute.
Only Trayvon had signs of assaulting someone (bloody knuckles), but Trayvon had no signs of being assaulted (other than the gunshot wound), whereas George had no signs of assaulting anyone, but George had bruising in the face, a broken nose, and bleeding on the back of his skull. By all evidence at the scene, George had not hurt Trayvon at all, until Trayvon reached for the handgun, and George was forced to use it to save his own life.
If the guy got in my face and told me what I'm I doing here, and if he got aggressive with me I'd get aggressive right back.
So what you just posted is complete bullshit, not surprised.
About 7 p.m.: George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old neighborhood watch captain, calls 911 to report "a suspicious person" in the gated community Retreat at Twin Lakes. Zimmerman says he is following Martin after the teen started to run, prompting the dispatcher to tell him, "We don't need you to do that." Zimmerman pursues Martin anyway, but then says he lost sight of him.
About 7:10 p.m.: Phone records show Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend around the time he saw Zimmerman while returning on foot from a convenience store to his the home of his father's fiancee.
At a March 20 news conference, Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump says the girl heard someone ask Martin what he was doing and Martin asking why the person was following him. The girl gets the impression that there is an altercation, during which the earpiece falls from Martin's ear and the connection goes dead, according to Crump.
According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman tells authorities that after Zimmerman briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchange words, Zimmerman says, he reaches for his cell phone, and then Martin punches him in the nose. Zimmerman says Martin pins him to the ground and begins slamming his head into the sidewalk.
Zimmerman is following Martin because he thinks Martin is suspect. To Martin, some random guy is following him, which is shady. Martin eventually confronts Zimmerman, words are exchanged, and Zimmerman reaches for his âphoneâ - police kill people for reaching - Anyway, Martin sees Zimmerman, a random guy who's been following him reaching for something, so he stands his ground and beats the shit out of him, Zimmerman pulls his gun and kills Martin.
Again, a coward for stalking an unarmed kid just because heâs black. Zimmerman started the confrontation, knowing he had a gun, whereas martin is being followed by someone at night for no reason. Maybe Martin feared for his life, not that you care. I know from your point of view you see nothing wrong with a grown man with a gun following some kid around for no reason. You also think said kid has no right to defend himself from a stranger. Just another coward with a gun. If Zimmerman didnât have a gun, would he have approached Martin? Probably not
Dude, even if someone is a coward, that doesn't give you the right to murder them!
And he wasn't "stalking" Trayvon.
Maybe Martin feared for his life,
Here's a few simple steps what a sane person would do, when they're standing at their front door, and there's a weird man 70 yards away at the entrance of the street, looking in their direction:
Open the front door.
Go inside.
Call the cops.
And the way Trayvon was talking to his friend doesn't suggest he was afraid, more like he was looking for a fight.
Zimmerman started the confrontation
Where did you get that idea?
All the evidence corroborates that Trayvon attacked George, not the other way around.
Zimmerman had every reason to avoid a physical confrontation. He was carrying a gun. And he was expecting the cops to arrive any second.
There aren't even any physical signs that Zimmerman touched Martin at all. Until the moment where he was forced to fire the gun in order to save his own life.
And when the cops first interrogated Zimmerman, right after the shooting, they falsely told him there was video footage of the events. Zimmerman said "thank god!" with great relief.
The 911 operator told him to stay in his car and not engage.
And do you think that the police would tell someone to go up and get in someone's face? At this point all the Zimmerman knew was that a kid was walking through the neighborhood.
The operator, who is not a police officer, said he didnt need to
There is no indication he started a fight. Checking why someone is peeping through your neighbours window is not starting a fight. And be wasn't on a neighborhood patrol.
Trayvon is entirely responsible for stalking and assaulting a man when he could have went home
We're not sorry that you don't like the truth. Nothing he said was racist, you're just a fucking retard who had no rebuttal and nothing to further to contribute to the conversation. Go bitch to SRD about it, you'll be surrounded by your fellow fucktards there
No you are the fucking backwashed dog dick licking you in the mouth idiot and nothing this racist motherfucker said is the truth. The path shows Zimmerman never fucking went back to his truck and continued to follow Trayvon (get it right you fucking bigot) as the boy tried to get away from him. He was nowhere near his truck when he murdered Trayvon because he was getting his fucking racist ass whooped! I don't need a safe haven like you pussy ass racist. You think because you racist cum guzzlers have high numbers on Reddit that someone is afraid of you. Fuck all of you bigoted sons of cunts.
"Nothing he did justifies Trevon attacking him. Trevon beating his head against the street clearly justifies him fearing for his life and using deadly measures to defend himself."
Are you fucking serious?!?!?! A 17 year old kid NOT man but kid is walking through a neighborhood he knows but not well enough to know people in the neighborhood is walking from the store back to his dad's house and is being followed at night. He runs, the man chases him. He is in a fight or flight situation, running did not remedy the situation so he had to fight the assailant, yes, assailant for his life. He was fucking running away from Zimmerman. Zimmerman was told to STOP following the boy but he refused. Yes, Trayvon (noticed how you refuse to spell his name correctlyđ) was whooping Zimmerman's ass in self defense and because Zimmerman was getting his ass whooped by a boy whom he refused to stop chasing he shot and murdered Trayvon. You all want so badly for Treyvon to be the culprit in this situation that you refuse to look at the facts. Zimmerman had zero business chasing his boy down. He called the police because he saw a nonwhite walking through his neighborhood. That all he was suppose to do. PERIOD! I know my point is falling on deaf ears. I know exactly how this world works but I'm not going to sit silent and let you "nonracist" continue to spin a narrative of how this boy was killed righteously. You all leave out indisputable facts and will even sprinkle in lies. Treyvon followed Zimmerman back to his truck, is the one most like to spew even though all evidence shows Trayvon never stopped trying to get back home. Look up the evidence and show me from the trail a map showing how Trayvon tracked back and started following Zimmerman. I'll wait. Oh and no breitbart, infowars, FNN and other racist news outlet is considered factual in the real world.
Women should wear burkas at all times otherwise itâs their fault if they are raped and they should stick to gussy approved areas otherwise, again, itâs their fault if they are raped
And if he would have just stayed in his car like he was told to do then no one would be dead. Why do you think he was justified to get out of his car and escalate the situation?
he was told he doesn't need to get out of the car.
Why do you think he was justified to get out of his car
why are people in a free country allowed to get out of their cars? mmh lets think...
and escalate the situation?
What kind of people live around you, that you find this reasonable? What kind of person, in a gated community of all places, would try to murder you because you leave your effing car? How many hours per day do you stay inside your car, in order to avoid "escalating situations"?
However, we do not know who threw the first punch, but it was probably Martin because he wondered why the f this guy was following him.
It could be argued that shooting Martin was justified use of force, though. One of the neighbor witnesses (think it was the Asian guy) noticed that the darker-skinned individual was on top and punching the other guy in the face.
If someone is armed and feels that they may be rendered unconscious and have that gun used against them or have grievous injury done to them, then in most states (not just Florida â you canât retreat if pinned on the ground) one would be justified in using deadly force.
So both parties erred here. Big Z shouldnât have followed, but Lil T shouldnât have brought Skittles to a gun fight.
Idk man usually when people follow me my first instinct isn't to attack them and beat their head in. Maybe if I were trying to commit crimes I would, though.
It's still a crime to assault someone unless in imminent danger or acting on the behalf of one who is. So Martin is definitely in the wrong there.
Still, if one is trying to avoid a possible violent confrontation, it's probably not a good idea to follow unknown suspicious suspects down dark alleys. One could be following a criminal that doesn't have their best interest at heart.
Zimmerman just wanted to play cop and got in over his head. He broke the rules and did shit that private citizens are not allowed to do. You can't follow people like that or engage them just because you think they are acting "suspicious".
And the reason why private citizens are not allowed to do that shit is perfectly represented in what happened. Cops are trained in de-escalation, non-violent conflict resolution, and how to defend themselves using non-lethal force.
If private citizens are allowed to do "policing", they would just end up getting into a bunch avoidable unnecessary physical altercations that would escalate out of control until someone dies. And that is exactly what happened.
George Zimmerman decided to play "cop" and Trayvon payed for that mistake with his life.
Lmao Trayvon paid for his (numerous) mistakes with his life. This wouldn't have happened had he acted like a civilized human. There's also no law whatsoever that you aren't allowed to follow someone acting suspicious. It's common sense not to (and to contact law enforcement instead) because it'll often lead to exactly what happened if the person you're following is indeed up to no good, but it's not even remotely illegal. It's just a good thing the whole ordeal turned out as it did - Trayvon dead, Zimmerman off the hook legally.
Walking home from 711 with a bag of Skittles is a crime where you come from?
Or somehow uncivilized?
And following some is most certainly a crime. It's called harassment. And it's is particularly a crime for a private citizen to harass or threaten someone as some form of illegal vigilantism.
The corner stone of civilized society is an organized system of law enforcement whereby private citizens are not allowed to engage in their own renegade "policing".
This is because without the proper training, more often then not, private citizens would just end up getting into 100% unnecessary physical altercations that escalate out of control until some is dead or seriously injured.
In no way did I say that such provocation justified him being assaulted. That's you attempting to take what I say out of context.
However, if I have a strange man following me, I'm going to be on edge and depending on the person, likely to confront them.
There's no evidence as to who threw the first punch, but yes, Zimmerman was getting the shit beat out of him by Trayvon. That's part of what justified him in shooting and killing his assailant.
According to Zimmerman's account, he was walking back to his truck when confronted from behind by Martin. He was then punched and had his mouth covered to muffle any cries for help. Martin also reportedly threatened his life upon doing this. Either way, based on both witness and personal accounts, the shooting was justified.
Those who were drinking the media Kool-Aid rather than looking at the facts would not come to that conclusion, so in no way am I making that conclusion, so don't misconstrue that.
Little T should have stepped the fuck off, but Little T-being a badassed gangsta and all-didnât have the sense to step off, so he got plugged. And guess what? The world didnât miss a beat. Just kept right on rolling while Little T was taking his dirt nap.
It's been fucking years so I'm fuzzy on the details, but I think there is a legal basis for Zimmer committing manslaughter if he was the one who unjustifiably instigated the confrontation. If Martin was justifiably afraid for his safety and did what he did in a reasonable sense of self-defense than I think Zimmerman can be blamed for starting the conflict and would have to take responsibility for the outcome of it, but I could be wrong so go ask the expert prosecutors at /legaladvice lmao
Martin was on top which means it is no longer possible for it to be in self-defense
I've never seen anyone reveal so blatantly that they have never been in a fight đđđ
Like, unironically, imagine not knowing that being on top of the other person doesn't mean you're safe and can stop. Like, nigga, if you just get up and say "Excuse me, good sir, I am done with this altercation, have a good day" the other person is gonna get up and beat the shit out of you.
Not to mention, if you had ever actually been in a fight you'd understand that your brain doesn't act analytically in a a fight. You're not pausing every 2 seconds to reassess the situation to see if you're safe, half of your fucking brain is shut down at that point.
I'm not even saying Martin is innocent, I'm just saying that you've never been in a fight and it's fucking obvious lmao
Unironically at this point I don't even care if Martin is guilty or not, the fact that you think that being on top of someone during a fight means that it can no longer be self defense makes me want to give you a God damn atomic wedgie
I think that fights are fluid and that you can be on offense at one point and on defense 10 seconds later. If you are in BJJ and pulled someone into guard in order to work them from there, then that's one thing, but in a street fight it's a different situation. Would the fight have gone to where Zim-Zam was acting offensively if Trevon had gotten off of him? I have no idea, but I do know that if he shot Trevon while getting his head slammed into the ground, then it was self defense.
Di Maio testified that he did not take into account several witnesses who said Zimmerman was the aggressor in the struggle. He also said, when pressed, that Zimmerman's injuries could have been caused by rolling around on concrete with Trayvon.
Martin was already at his home front door, and Zimmerman waiting 200 yards away from him, when Marin's friend on the phone suggested that Zimmerman may be a gay man, looking to buttsex young thug Tray. Trayvon ran back those 200 yards and attacked Zimmermann.
Let this be a lesson to all you stupid ass black kids: when a creepy white man is following you when you're casing the joint, don't attack him because he might have a gun. Walk home quietly and calmly, and try to stick to populated areas.
Yeah but if you pick a fight in a bar, start to lose, then shot the other guy in the heard, that is straight up murder.
And that is what happened here. George picked a fight with a kid who was walking home alone from a 711, started to lose the fight, and shot the kid dead.
And yeah George was in Neighborhood Watch. But Neighborhood Watch has no authority to attempt to engage or detain a person just because they think that they are "suspicious".
In fact that is the whole point of having police in the first place. Police have training in threat assessment, de-escalation / non-violent conflict resolution, and are trained in how to defend themselves and detain suspects using non-lethal force.
So if George had just called the cops and kept his distance like the law requires, this all would likely have been resolved without incident and Trayvon would still be alive. But George broke the law as soon as he engaged with Trayvon. And George is responsible for Travon's death.
How often have you killed a man, because he was standing on a sidewalk 200 yards away from your house's front door and on the phone with someone suggesting the man might be gay for you?
Zimmerman, a whale, was getting beat up by a man the size of a grasshopper. If he canât win a fight with that size difference then heâs a cuck. Sorry liberal.
That's not what happened, the police are the one who didnt find probable cause for trial, which created a social media outrage, a change.org petition (lol) and protests.
The only reason this was prosecuted at all was media pressure. Manslaughter or murder doesnt matter, because self-defense absolve him of both. The prosecution litterally had NOTHING.
Source : I am an autist with too much free time who watched a trial about two mutts living in a country where I never ever stepped foot
That. Most people making comments basing their opinions on sound bites or pre-consived prejudice. I drive a lot. That summer I was driving rental with broken radio with only one satellite station working that was broadcasting the trial. I had no choice but to listen. You can hate Zimmerman , think he is piece of s..t. I personally think both of them are in the wrong. But law has a clear definition of murder. Part of me wonder with hundred of people getting killed every year. Would this case be so famous and talked about, if news station correctly identified Zimmermann as Hispanic in the first place?
People can say what they want, but zimmerman did what any white-Latino man would do when faced with adversity. Youâre either neighborhood watch or you arenât, there is no middle ground.
Well thank you, it's really hard being a jet setting Chad who crashes Ferraris and charters private planes around the world but doesn't ride them just because he made three billion dollars on Bitcoin
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Anyone who spent half an hour researching the details of the case, knows he acted in self-defense. This doesn't even rest on "stand your ground", it would have been justified self-defense anywhere in the US.
When he's finished that suit, he should use some of his millions to sue the other big networks and newspapers that lied about him.
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I'd help fund this. How does it feel to know your ancestors would've washed your filthy mouth out with soap and gotten da master's whip and hit you with it until you got a job?
Trayvon (not a little kid btw) was on the phone with his friend Precious from the movie Precious the whole time.
He was already at his home front door, at that time the Zim Zam was waiting a respectful 200 yards away from Traytray, at the entrance of that street.
Precious suggested to Tray that the Zim was a fag looking to turdburgle the violent thug's butthole.
So poor innocent boy Trayvon ran back up the street and tried to murder big meanie George.
After punching Zim's face and repeatedly smashing Zim's head on the concrete, Tray noticed the handgun, reached for it, and George was forced to defend his life.
All the evidence and testimonies support this version of events. All the alternate stories pushed by various interests are contradicted by evidence or testimony.
Zimmerman's defense attorney asked her if Martin had perhaps lied to her because he did not want her to know if he decided to assault Zimmerman that night. Jeantel testified, "that's real retarded, sir. That's real retarded to do that, sir. Why on earth â Trayvon did not know."
Between March 19 and 27, 2012, the NBC Nightly News, NBC's Today show, and NBC's network-owned Miami affiliate WTVJ ran segments which misleadingly merged parts of Zimmerman's call. On one version of the recording played by NBC, Zimmerman was heard saying, "This guy looks like he's up to no good or he's on drugs or something... He's got his hand in his waistband, and he's a black male." In another, Zimmerman's voice was spliced to say "This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black." In the original 9-1-1 recording, Zimmerman said: "This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about." The 9-1-1 operator then asked: "OK, and this guy, is he black, white or Hispanic?", and Zimmerman answered, "He looks black." The phrase, "He's got his hand in his waistband, and he's a black male" came several exchanges after that point in the conversation.
My lord, the US media is dog shit. It says he already sued NBC and lost though.
If you haven't noticed, racial tension and racially oriented political movements have escalated quite a bit since 2012. Also, I never said the blacks. It's going to be a few of them on a megaphone with a majority of retarded white antifa trannies doing their bidding.
I'm moving to the USA in a few weeks...just so I'm fully up to speed: Am I generally allowed to arm myself and stalk kids, and then shoot them if they do anything I perceive to be aggressive, and then claim it was self-defence? Or do I need to have some extenuating circumstances (ie be in the neighbourhood watch, or make sure the kid isn't famous/rich/white/female)?
On that note actually, what am I allowed to do if a man with a gun is following me around? Obviously I can't try and disarm him (since that gives him the right to kill me), but just wanna check what options I have that would keep me alive and out of prison.
It's actually legal in the USA to call the police when you see someone walking through people's backyards at night.
You're also allowed to follow them from a safe distance, e.g. 200 feet away, so you know where they're going.
This would not be considered "stalking" in any American court of law.
then shoot them if they do anything I perceive to be aggressive, and then claim it was self-defence?
That would be illegal. However, when is actually about to murder you, you are allowed defend yourself.
By all evidence at the scene, Georgie hadn't even touched Trayvon prior to firing the gun. Meanwhile Trayvon had bloody knuckles, Georgie had a broken nose, bruises, and bleeding on the back of his skull.
The forensic evidence also shows that Trayvon was sitting on top of Georgie when he was shot.
George knew the police was coming any minute. He had good reason not to initiate violence.
Trayvon announced to his friend on the phone, that he was gonna run back up the street and attack the "creepy ass cracker," instead of doing the reasonable thing: open his front door, go inside, maybe call the cops about the weird stranger outside.
when police first interrogated George, they falsely told him that they had video footage of the events. George's immediate reaction was a relieved "thank god!"
On that note actually, what am I allowed to do if a man with a gun is following me around?
Well Trayvon didn't know George had a gun, he only noticed after he had been smashing his skull on the asphalt for a while, at which point he immediately reached for it.
If you feel like someone is following you, but they're actually just standing on the sidewalk 200 feet away from your house, and you're standing at your front door chatting on the phone with a friend: Just go inside! Call the police about it. You don't have the legal right to assault people just because you think they're "creepy ass crackers".
So "yes I can do that" and "no I don't need extenuating circumstances other than license for a firearm". That's awesome! Might avoid the rich/white kids though, just in case they have promising swimming careers. I gather that can lead to legal complications?
Side note, bit odd to quote a testimony only partially, when parts of the same testimony don't support other bits you said...but you seem to have a deep insight into the mentalities of all parties involved (involving someone who is dead) as well as precise detail of everything transpired, so I'll take your word for it!
Yes in America you're actually allowed to defend your life. Where you're from, do you just have to let people murder you?
From the UK, my friend! I think it's just a cultural divide, but over here if doctors testify that you suffered nothing more serious than two minor cuts on the back of your head, you'll have a very difficult time convincing anyone that someone was "smashing [your] skull on the asphalt for a while", so you're probably not allowed to kill whoever punched you.
Think it'd be a different scenario if someone is following you with a gun, though. Of course that is not relevant here, because you have special insight that makes you aware of what precisely went down between Zimmerman and Martin, and have already confirmed that Zimmerman was just innocently profiling a kid who - until that point an innocent citizen himself with no history of violence - decided on the spur of the moment to publicly murder someone outside his house and was most definitely not in fear of his own life.
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And now you're unironically citing NBC, the network that blatantly doctored Zimmerman's 911 call to smear him as racist
Can someone give me a quick rundown on trayvon martin and zimzam? All i know about it is he was a black kid who got shot by a white cop, and that the rightoid praised zimzam and the lefties cried that trayvon dindu nuffin. What's the correct, centrist take?
White people are so alpha they can kill any unarmed child
We literally need to start a fighting match between white men with uzis and unarmed black 12 year olds just to show how impressively strong and superior our race is, Iâm sure weâll win every match and thus defend the honor of our race.
And what's alpha is not defending his life from a violent thug trying to murder him.
He's alpha because, after having his life destroyed, he's turning it around, he's coming back, and he's taking on a bunch of billion dollar industries.
That's it exactly. In the US of ohholyhellbabyhelpUS, you have to take classes, do ride-alongs with the police - which the dude did do - and be on the cops' register so they know who those scary armed dudes driving slowly through the neighborhood are. Because that's the MO of the hoodlums, too. Helpful, right? If you don't file the right documents the police will be distracted by your behavior - they WILL get calls from concerned citizens, and are legally required to check out those calls. So they have a filter -- they know which organization is operating in which territory and they have codes that give them an idea of what armed civilians they'll find; the volunteer cops are given codes to identify themselves to the police, and those codes are changed frequently.
You know who knows all about it? The file clerks. When you're a file clerk, you get to hide in a corner and read all the reports, its a lot of fun. Then you basically misfile the report about a carnival of inter-department and field errors under 'misc' and get on with living in 1984.
Neighborhood watches are hooked into the police department. There was none - this was a dude cruising in a car creating his own world. He's a dimestore version of the great psychopaths of crime. The problem is, for him its working, which probably proves there are evil forces gathering close. /cough/ jk
this was a dude cruising in a car creating his own world
âBe the change you want to see in the worldâ - Ghandi
âI have a dreamâ - MLK
âYesterday is gone. Tomorrow has not yet come. We have only today. Let us begin.â - Mother Teresa
âI recognize I have faults. I'm accountable for them, and I try to do what I can to correct them. I will say that it's unfortunate that everything I do is scrutinized to the point that it is. Frankly, I don't watch the news, I stay away from political conversations.â - George Zimmerman
A verbal argument ensued and Chris Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.
Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.
Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the shit out of you when we get home! You wait and see!'
The detective said Robyn F. then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales, who did not answer.
Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.'
After Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!'
Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown.
Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand.
Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant, Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.
Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.
Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of 333 North June Street and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.
Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness.
She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions.
Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order.
Anyway you could give me some info on why you believe why a lot of people on here support Zimmerman? Iâm obviously out of the loop and was just a little surprised at the views people had on this thread.
Quit being a complete retard. If they had any reason to charge him, they would have. If you didnât read about it in detail, donât offer an opinion imo
I'm in awe at the audacity of Zimmerman when almost was charged. Kills a black kid, no jail time. Then proceeds to auction the gun he killed Trayvon with calling it "A piece of American History", Then charged for aggravated assault against his ex wife after threatening her with a gun. But people in the comments believe that he was actually innocent and that it was self defense. It clearly shows he has no remorse and has lot of questionable history but hey that's just my opinion.
Zimmerman is a piecw of shit and i hope he slips on a banana peel and falls down some stairs, then he manages to stand up, slips again and falls down the remaining stairs.
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-12-04
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1 boyoyoyoyong 2019-12-04
How many people did the white Mexican and skittles Martin story end up redpilling
1 jorio 2019-12-04
It was a twofer - do you want the "the media is biased as fuck" redpill or the "it's super easy to get away with killing black kids" redpill?
Of course the "the overly political prosecutor who initially pandered to the gun lobby by declining to charge Zimmerman, and who then over-corrected in the face of a backlash and charged Zimmerman with murder when he should have just tried Zimmerman for manslaughter because that is the crime he actually committed" pill is also available but nobody seems to want that one.
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
I'm not sure he did. The evidence suggests that he was on the ground having his head slammed against the concrete when he fired. It seems to be a solid self defense case.
1 zerostile 2019-12-04
Regardless, that was the crime he should've been charged for
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
from the perspective of the prosecution, definitely.
they might actually have stood a chance of chance convicting him for that.
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
Agreed, if you are going to charge him with a crime that is the correct one to charge him with.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-12-04
The prosecution sucked balls. Overcharging was fucking dumb, I dunno how fl law works but in most civilized areas the state can bring multiple tiered offences for the same occurrence.
1 twawaytrust 2019-12-04
Hoping for an activist judge.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-12-04
All judges are activist judges since the regicide judges against Gods divined Charles I
1 CiceroFanboy 2019-12-04
This one right here Lord Protector Cromwell đ
1 I_AmA_Dubstep 2019-12-04
How FL law works: It doesn't.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-12-04
I assumed but I was giving then the benefit of the doubt they deserved self rule over a military ran government.
I was in error.
1 BlueKy5 2019-12-04
Unless you have a box full of capital, then you can make it work to your advantage. This is the difference between Justice and Just-Us.
1 professorshillphd 2019-12-04
If they charged him with anything less than murder the backlash would have been insane.
Both Trayvon and Zimmerman were in the wrong, but "black teen gunned down" gets more clicks than "teen shot after mutual retardation."
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1 jorio 2019-12-04
Zimmerman provoked Martin by following hm and escalated the situation by introducing a gun into a fist fight. Both provocation and escalation can void a self defense claim
1 Neon_needles 2019-12-04
Go big, go broke prosecution.
1 ironicshitpostr 2019-12-04
This or purposefully overcharging to throw the case?
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
That's one claim, but it's not supported by the forensic evidence. According to the evidence, he was walking back to his car when he was attacked.
1 jorio 2019-12-04
What forensic evidence?
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
Didn't follow the trial did you...
1 jorio 2019-12-04
What forensic evidence indicates that Zimmerman was walking back to his car when he was attacked?
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
Do you really expect me to go through the transcripts?
1 jorio 2019-12-04
So by "forensic evidence" you mean "vague recollection of something that happened years ago?"
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
No, I followed the trial really closely back then (the only time I've been into reality TV). He was bloodied up pretty good.
2 Imgur_Lurker 2019-12-04
Literally everyone who was alive knows your right and jorio is retarded lmao
1 hasanoglu 2019-12-04
You sound like a zoomer.
1 TheReasonBernieWon 2019-12-04
Children shouldn't be on a NSFW sub.
1 YourGreatDarshFace 2019-12-04
Now honk the horn if you want your fish.
1 RIPGeorgeHarrison 2019-12-04
People are either downvoting a lolcow or an obvious joke, and either way this sub is going to shit.
1 swislock 2019-12-04
The trials forensic evidence, jesus christ atleast read the wiki on the trial before you pretend to know what is going on đ¤
1 capthazelwoodsflask 2019-12-04
He was also told not to bring a gun with him on neighborhood watch and he was also told to not get out of his car in the first place. He put himself in the situation to get fucked.
1 CharlesBukakeski 2019-12-04
Well it's a good thing he brought it along, otherwise he would've just become yet another statistic.
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
Yep, he sure did. Still doesn't mean he should get murdered for it. The forensic evidence is that Trevon was on top of him slamming his head against the road when he was shot. He was walking back to his truck when Trevon attacked him. Nothing he did justifies Trevon attacking him. Trevon beating his head against the street clearly justifies him fearing for his life and using deadly measures to defend himself.
1 TehAlpacalypse 2019-12-04
If you look at a map of the neighborhood, or where the "attack" Trayvon supposedly did occurred, this falls completely apart
1 whyguitar 2019-12-04
So?
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
the whole court process is publicly available online
1 911roofer 2019-12-04
You know what else falls apart completey? DONWVOTING THE LOLICOWS.
1 JamesYSmithson 2019-12-04
Yeah I never got this line of thinking.
We (rightfully) say anyone who says a girl walking home at night in a city is asking for trouble then we just act like "Escalating a situation" justifies getting your head bashed in lmao
1 Zozbot 2019-12-04
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1 Zozbot 2019-12-04
zozzle
1 ironicshitpostr 2019-12-04
Wrongfully we all know the girl is the wrong for going outside unaccompanied by her husband or male relative
1 Fortizen 2019-12-04
Inshallah
1 kermit_was_wrong 2019-12-04
The way I look at it, Zimmerman fucked all kinds of shit here and is a ridiculous little asshole - but nobody is obligated to let someone kill them no matter how many mistakes they made. If you're being choked unconscious, GnP'd, etc - you are in imminent danger of death and hoping the dude will stop is not a reasonable course of action. Whatever weapon you have on you, you should use it.
When you're on the other side of it, even in a "normal fight", you should understand what you're doing and the sort of escalation that represents. That's also a risk. Really, nike-fu is almost always best.
1 jaherbster 2019-12-04
Yeah but knowing "who started it, and why?" matters.
If you pick a fight in a bar, start losing, then shoot the other person dead, it's murder.
And if George Zimmerman was operating outside the bounds of what is legal for a neighborhood watch to do (by pursing or engaging with this kid), I would argue that any resulting physical altercation is George's fault.
Basically, you can't pretend to be a police officer. If someone does something that normally only trained law enforcement officers are allowed to do, and someone dies as a result, it's their fault.
George wanted to play cop, got himself in over his head, and Trayvon died because of it.
1 Cucker_Dog 2019-12-04
Following someone isn't assault you fucking retard. Imagine thinking that "not doing what a 911 operator says" is enough to void the right of self-defense. If george followed him into his own property, cornered him, or drew a firearm first then it's fair game. What he did was pretty much harassment.
1 jaherbster 2019-12-04
Whoever said anything about assault? It does not have to be assault to be illegal.
Either way, if you step outside the law, harass someone, pick a fight, start to lose, and then shoot the other person dead, you are on the hook for manslaughter at the least.
The whole reason why private citizens are not supposed to do policing is that without the proper training, more often then not, they would just end up getting into 100% unnecessary physical altercations that escalate out of control until some is dead or seriously injured.
1 Cucker_Dog 2019-12-04
Youre just trying to sound like you know what youre talking about.
1 jaherbster 2019-12-04
Or maybe I'm right?
Could be the reason why what I said makes sense is cause it's correct?
"Vigilante: a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority"
George Zimmerman wanted to play cop. He was in Neighborhood Watch but that was not enough. He went past what he was legally allowed to do and got in over his head. And as a result someone died. That crime should not go unpunished.
1 Cucker_Dog 2019-12-04
What laws did he break?
1 jaherbster 2019-12-04
https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/vigilante-liability.html
"For example, neighborhood watches work with local police, but they have no authority to make arrests or take actions, as that is typically reserved for police officers. Thus, when a neighborhood watch takes matters into its own hands, instead of sharing information with local peace officers, it may be considered an act of vigilantism."
When Zimmerman got out of his car to follow and confront Trayvon, it was a crime.
1 Cucker_Dog 2019-12-04
You quote an extremely vague summary (not even an actual law lmao) and just declare him guilty all on your own. Just admit you think it was fucked up in general instead of trying to sound smart by half assedly using lawyer jew-speak.
1 jaherbster 2019-12-04
I'm not a lawyer. And neither are you. But every single person on here is trying to either declare someone guilty or innocent all on their own. No need to single me out.
And I am not "trying to sound smart". If what I say sounds smart, maybe it is. If it sounds right, maybe it is.
You should at least consider the possibility that when George Zimmerman ignored the authorities and ran off to pursue Trayvon, that it was a criminal act of Vigilantism, and that Trayvon's death at the very least may have been manslaughter.
In that 911 call, the authorities told Zimmerman not to chase after Trayvon. But Zimmerman chased him with a gun, picked a fight with him, and shot him.
1 capthazelwoodsflask 2019-12-04
And yet if he had just stayed in his car until police showed up like he was told to do then nobody dies, nobody gets their ass beat, and nobody knows who George Zimmerman or Treyvon Martin are.
Zimmerman escalated the situation as soon as he got out of the car like he was explicitly told not to do. He started a fight that he was told not to start and ended it with a gun he was told not to have. He went rogue and brought it on himself.
Nobody deserved to die that day but George Zimmerman is the one who set the wheels in motion by ignoring both written and verbal commands about how to watch the neighborhood.
1 Brahmasexual 2019-12-04
The initiation of violence, which is marked by the first aggressive physical contact, determines who is at fault for a fight. Youâre not legally allowed to lay hands on people that annoy you. Sweaty.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Maybe Martin was standing his ground from a grown man who was stalking him? You ever think of that? Martin committed no crime and was minding his own business. Zimmerman was the aggressor in this situation. Weâll never hear Martins side of the story because a wannabe cop coward murdered him
1 twawaytrust 2019-12-04
Yeah but you can 'stand your ground' without slamming someone's head into the ground. Someone following you is not grounds for doing that.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
So Martin attacked Zimmerman for no reason, is that what youâre saying? I Don't know about you but if someone is following me for no reason I'm going to defend myself.
1 twawaytrust 2019-12-04
That what he did was way past what he shoulda done.
I go bash someone's head into the pavement for following me- (right or wrong), I'm going to jail, possibly for a damn long time.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Why did he bash Zimmermans head into the pavement?
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
homophobia
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
So Zimmerman is gay and was trying to rape Martin?
1 twawaytrust 2019-12-04
Martin thought he was gonna get propositioned and wasn't cool with being used as bussy.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
No, but that's what Martin thought. Based on the phone call with his friend.
1 twawaytrust 2019-12-04
No idea. I don't walk outside and start bashing peoples' heads into the pavement, but then I'm not black, either.
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
Because he was high and an aggressive person?
1 FrostBittenSalsa 2019-12-04
You're not defending yourself if no violent act has been committed against you prior to your engaging of the perceived threat.
Should Invader Zimmerman acted the way he did before everything became physical? No. Was his life endangered when Trayvon Martin was on top of him and pounding his skull into the pavement? Yes. To the best of what the evidence available suggested, there's nothing proving that Zimmerman got physical with Martin first. What the evidence did prove was that Martin had at that point exceeded the threshold of force necessary for self defense and in doing so became the aggressor. When that junction was reached in their interaction Zimmerman's fear for his life was valid and his use of lethal force was justified in the eyes of the law.
I don't agree with Zimmerman's actions keding up to the physical altercation. However, his use of lethal force was legal.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
â.To the best of what the evidence available suggested, there's nothing proving that Zimmerman got physical with Martin first.â
The only evidence available is Zimmermanâs testimony; of course, he going to play the victim. Zimmerman called the cops and was told to stay in the car, which he didn't. He got out and followed Martin. Who knows what happened after that. Weâll never know, because the other side of the story is dead.
The stand your ground law is bullshit because you can start a confrontation, get your ass kicked, kill someone and then claim self defence.
The kid was walking home from the store. He was murdered for the simple fact of being black.
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
So now forensics don't exist?
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
So not forensics don't exist?
1 FrostBittenSalsa 2019-12-04
Music to my ears
1 ironicshitpostr 2019-12-04
advanced thinking on display
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Zimmerman was the aggressor, a coward with a gun.
1 ironicshitpostr 2019-12-04
Replying to my comment without permission makes me fear for my life just warning you
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Ok Zimmerman
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
He just took the stance that you think excuses Martin's attack.
1 CZ_Wears_PRODa 2019-12-04
Lol tell me more about how Martin did nothing wrong by attacking Zimmerman when his back was turned.
Is this the same retard logic people use to punch boomers at protests?
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
The chump Zimmerman acted like a wannabe cop following a black kid around for no reason. the black kid stood up for himself and kick the shit out out the coward. In short that's what happened. Zimmerman is a hero to all cowards
1 CZ_Wears_PRODa 2019-12-04
When you shoot nigs
Lmao bottom text
Look where being brave gets ya
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Martin was a man who handled his business. Zimmerman is a coward who needs a gun. As I said Zimmerman is a hero to all cowrds.
1 dumbalt 2019-12-04
true
1 ashleychudd 2019-12-04
You are just lashing out because youâre mentally ill.
1 BasedCavScout 2019-12-04
Actually he did commit a crime. He went to the gas station and purchased ingredients to make lean. I'm not sure if you know, but that's illegal.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Well that's different.
1 BasedCavScout 2019-12-04
You're aware that Trayvon left the house that night to go commit a crime, right? It just might have played a part in why he didn't want to stop and talk to someone.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Yup, the crime of walking while black.
1 BasedCavScout 2019-12-04
Somehow I knew you were a professional victim. One day you'll wake up and realize you're the only person responsible for your life.
I want to hear you say "making lean is not illegal". Go ahead, tell all of us how fucking stupid you are.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Did I say making lean is not illegal, you fucking moron?
Let me guess you look like Adam Purinton or james alex fields jr
1 BasedCavScout 2019-12-04
No, but you said he didn't commit a crime which means one of two things: either you're ignorant to the details of the trial or you're ignorant to the law. Which one is it? I'm guessing you made up your mind as soon as Obama gave his "coulda been my son" marching orders and figured there's no reason for you to watch a smart persons trial and have your mind all confused and stuff so this is the first you're hearing about Trayvon's intentions that evening. Sucks to suck, don't it?
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
So which is it, Adam Purinton or James Alex Fields Jr? Because I know you look like one of them.
So what crime did Martin commit? I thought you were joking at first, but your Obama comment tells me you're not.
I made up my mind when a grown-ass man shot a kid for being black. Zimmerman is a hero to all cowards
1 BasedCavScout 2019-12-04
Not sure who either of those people are, or what your obsession is, but I look like Ross from Friends if that helps. I take it you're interested? Not sure why else you'd ask what I look like. Kinda weird, but okay.
Do we need to go over lean being illegal again? I really thought we nailed that.
So you're simple, we get it man. Trials aren't for everyone. I bet you make the best drool puddles, don't you wittle boy?
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Stop lying. You look like Cesar Sayoc. Bottom of the barrel white trash. Ross from friends ha ha ha yeah ok Cesar.
As I said, I thought you were joking at first about the lean comment, but youâre not. I didn't realize I was going back and forth with a moron. Regardless of your moronic assumptions, what Martin purchased at the gas station is not a crime; him walking back from the gas station is not a crime. He did nothing wrong except walking while being black.
Why do you think Martin was making lean? What's your proof? Or is that just you making racist assumptions?
And even if he was making lean who gives a shit, this America, he can do what he wants.
It sounds like your a chump ass racist.
1 BasedCavScout 2019-12-04
The trial. Which is obviously something you never watched.
No, you can't. Abusing prescription cough medicine is a felony.
And it sounds like you're a pussy ass victim looking to blame someone else for your problems.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
You sound like a coward and a bitch.
I'm no victim, and I'm not blaming anyone for my problems, that's you making shit up. You chump ass racist
1 BasedCavScout 2019-12-04
And there you go proving me right. Everyone smarter than you is a racist. Fucking victim.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Everyone smarter than me is a racist? That's the dumbest shit I ever heard, but I don't expect much, especially from a person who thinks purchasing skittles and fruit juice is justification for murder â deadbeat racist.
1 BasedCavScout 2019-12-04
I knew you were lying about understanding the law.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
I know you're a racist deadbeat
1 BasedCavScout 2019-12-04
Whatever you need to say to make yourself feel better about how much your life sucks.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
There you go again, making up more bullshit. Dig a ditch, you racist deadbeat.
1 BasedCavScout 2019-12-04
I'll be your fallboy. Blame me for your life. Go ahead. Call me a racist again and solidify your clown life.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
You subhuman cockroach, youâre like dead batteries, useless.
1 BasedCavScout 2019-12-04
Good shill.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Snowflake maggot
1 TheAlamoDrafthouse 2019-12-04
When a man is clinically depressed and his significant other thinks so little of him they sleep in separate beds in their own house he becomes like a dead battery. Drained of life and depleted of value.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
Assault. Attempted murder.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Dick head - why did Martin assault Zimmerman in tnr first place?
Dick head again - if Martin had been white, Zimmerman would have never approached him. Zimmerman called the cops because he was black, dick head.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
Seems like he just enjoyed assaulting people, or at least bragging a lot to his friends as if he did.
And specifically in Zimmerman's case, his friend on the phone gave him a "good enough" excuse for attacking Zimmermann: he might be a gay rapist...
Zimmerman didn't approach Martin.
Seems more like Zimmerman called the cops because
there had been a lot of break-ins.
George knew the people who lived there, and he didn't recognized Martin (who had been there for only a short time)
Martin was walking through the backyards instead of on the sidewalk, which looked kinda suspicious.
So... do you think if some guy calls the cops on you, you should be allowed to murder him?
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Zimmerman called the cops; the cops told Zimmerman to stay in the car, and he didn't. Zimmerman got out of his car and approached Martin. Zimmerman was the aggressor who was explicitly told to stay in his car.
If some guy called the cops on me I would wait for the cops to arrive. If the guy got in my face and told me what I'm I doing here, I'd tell him to fuck off, and if he got aggressive with me I'd get aggressive right back.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
No, the 911 operator told Zimmerman he doesn't have to follow Martin.
Yeah, because the path that Martin took is too small for a car.
No Zimmerman was waiting 70 yards away from Martin, at the entrance of the street of Martin's house, who was already at his home's front door, chatting on the phone with his friend.
Then Martin decided that assaulting Zimmerman would be fun, so he ran back down the street to where Zimmerman was waiting for the cops.
Martin assaulted Zimmerman, not the other way around. We know this because:
the witness testimony.
Zimmerman knew the cops would arrive any minute.
Only Trayvon had signs of assaulting someone (bloody knuckles), but Trayvon had no signs of being assaulted (other than the gunshot wound), whereas George had no signs of assaulting anyone, but George had bruising in the face, a broken nose, and bleeding on the back of his skull. By all evidence at the scene, George had not hurt Trayvon at all, until Trayvon reached for the handgun, and George was forced to use it to save his own life.
Good to know, but that's not what happened there.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
So what you just posted is complete bullshit, not surprised.
About 7 p.m.: George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old neighborhood watch captain, calls 911 to report "a suspicious person" in the gated community Retreat at Twin Lakes. Zimmerman says he is following Martin after the teen started to run, prompting the dispatcher to tell him, "We don't need you to do that." Zimmerman pursues Martin anyway, but then says he lost sight of him. About 7:10 p.m.: Phone records show Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend around the time he saw Zimmerman while returning on foot from a convenience store to his the home of his father's fiancee. At a March 20 news conference, Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump says the girl heard someone ask Martin what he was doing and Martin asking why the person was following him. The girl gets the impression that there is an altercation, during which the earpiece falls from Martin's ear and the connection goes dead, according to Crump. According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman tells authorities that after Zimmerman briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchange words, Zimmerman says, he reaches for his cell phone, and then Martin punches him in the nose. Zimmerman says Martin pins him to the ground and begins slamming his head into the sidewalk.
Zimmerman is following Martin because he thinks Martin is suspect. To Martin, some random guy is following him, which is shady. Martin eventually confronts Zimmerman, words are exchanged, and Zimmerman reaches for his âphoneâ - police kill people for reaching - Anyway, Martin sees Zimmerman, a random guy who's been following him reaching for something, so he stands his ground and beats the shit out of him, Zimmerman pulls his gun and kills Martin.
Zimmerman is a fucking coward murderer.
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1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
Killing in self-defense is not murder. Zimmerman prevented a murder that night: his own.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Coward with a gun.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
Not wanting to die, what a coward.
If Georgie hadn't had a gun, Trayvon would have killed him that night. He would have been just another statistic.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Again, a coward for stalking an unarmed kid just because heâs black. Zimmerman started the confrontation, knowing he had a gun, whereas martin is being followed by someone at night for no reason. Maybe Martin feared for his life, not that you care. I know from your point of view you see nothing wrong with a grown man with a gun following some kid around for no reason. You also think said kid has no right to defend himself from a stranger. Just another coward with a gun. If Zimmerman didnât have a gun, would he have approached Martin? Probably not
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
Dude, even if someone is a coward, that doesn't give you the right to murder them!
And he wasn't "stalking" Trayvon.
Here's a few simple steps what a sane person would do, when they're standing at their front door, and there's a weird man 70 yards away at the entrance of the street, looking in their direction:
Open the front door.
Go inside.
Call the cops.
And the way Trayvon was talking to his friend doesn't suggest he was afraid, more like he was looking for a fight.
Where did you get that idea?
All the evidence corroborates that Trayvon attacked George, not the other way around.
Zimmerman had every reason to avoid a physical confrontation. He was carrying a gun. And he was expecting the cops to arrive any second.
There aren't even any physical signs that Zimmerman touched Martin at all. Until the moment where he was forced to fire the gun in order to save his own life.
And when the cops first interrogated Zimmerman, right after the shooting, they falsely told him there was video footage of the events. Zimmerman said "thank god!" with great relief.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
pic related: BasedCavScout chuckling mildly at your whack posting
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Apparently, youâre a homo who has a hard-on for BasedCavScout.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
it's okay, I said "no homo"
1 kristastarlight 2019-12-04
Told to do by who? Certainly not the police.
1 capthazelwoodsflask 2019-12-04
The 911 operator told him to stay in his car and not engage.
And do you think that the police would tell someone to go up and get in someone's face? At this point all the Zimmerman knew was that a kid was walking through the neighborhood.
1 kristastarlight 2019-12-04
No, she didn't.
What's that matter? That's not what he did.
Acting suspiciously.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2019-12-04
911 operators have zero authority on anything. They just exist to dispatch calls. They sure as shit aren't lawyers or police.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
No.
1 911roofer 2019-12-04
You know what murders black kids? DOWNVOTING LOLCOWS
1 beastmane69 2019-12-04
So you think he deserved to get his head bashed in for stepping out of his car?
1 hahaasinfucku 2019-12-04
You seem pretty fervent for someone who is wrong.
He was not explicitly told not to.
The operator, who is not a police officer, said he didnt need to
There is no indication he started a fight. Checking why someone is peeping through your neighbours window is not starting a fight. And be wasn't on a neighborhood patrol.
Trayvon is entirely responsible for stalking and assaulting a man when he could have went home
1 EternallyAroused 2019-12-04
Your user name is definitely a lie.You are a racist but you are surely among friends. At least you don't hide what you are.
1 FrostBittenSalsa 2019-12-04
We're not sorry that you don't like the truth. Nothing he said was racist, you're just a fucking retard who had no rebuttal and nothing to further to contribute to the conversation. Go bitch to SRD about it, you'll be surrounded by your fellow fucktards there
1 EternallyAroused 2019-12-04
No you are the fucking backwashed dog dick licking you in the mouth idiot and nothing this racist motherfucker said is the truth. The path shows Zimmerman never fucking went back to his truck and continued to follow Trayvon (get it right you fucking bigot) as the boy tried to get away from him. He was nowhere near his truck when he murdered Trayvon because he was getting his fucking racist ass whooped! I don't need a safe haven like you pussy ass racist. You think because you racist cum guzzlers have high numbers on Reddit that someone is afraid of you. Fuck all of you bigoted sons of cunts.
1 FrostBittenSalsa 2019-12-04
Screech harder, retard. No amount of blindly fanatical and baseless virtue signaling is going to prove you're right
1 Burnt_Turds 2019-12-04
Aroused by indignant outrage
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
What have I said that was racist? Go through my post history, I'll wait.
1 EternallyAroused 2019-12-04
"Nothing he did justifies Trevon attacking him. Trevon beating his head against the street clearly justifies him fearing for his life and using deadly measures to defend himself."
Are you fucking serious?!?!?! A 17 year old kid NOT man but kid is walking through a neighborhood he knows but not well enough to know people in the neighborhood is walking from the store back to his dad's house and is being followed at night. He runs, the man chases him. He is in a fight or flight situation, running did not remedy the situation so he had to fight the assailant, yes, assailant for his life. He was fucking running away from Zimmerman. Zimmerman was told to STOP following the boy but he refused. Yes, Trayvon (noticed how you refuse to spell his name correctlyđ) was whooping Zimmerman's ass in self defense and because Zimmerman was getting his ass whooped by a boy whom he refused to stop chasing he shot and murdered Trayvon. You all want so badly for Treyvon to be the culprit in this situation that you refuse to look at the facts. Zimmerman had zero business chasing his boy down. He called the police because he saw a nonwhite walking through his neighborhood. That all he was suppose to do. PERIOD! I know my point is falling on deaf ears. I know exactly how this world works but I'm not going to sit silent and let you "nonracist" continue to spin a narrative of how this boy was killed righteously. You all leave out indisputable facts and will even sprinkle in lies. Treyvon followed Zimmerman back to his truck, is the one most like to spew even though all evidence shows Trayvon never stopped trying to get back home. Look up the evidence and show me from the trail a map showing how Trayvon tracked back and started following Zimmerman. I'll wait. Oh and no breitbart, infowars, FNN and other racist news outlet is considered factual in the real world.
1 LongPostBot 2019-12-04
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1 TerribleRelief9 2019-12-04
Fuck you, I wont do what you tell me
1 wolfgangthyme 2019-12-04
Women should wear burkas at all times otherwise itâs their fault if they are raped and they should stick to gussy approved areas otherwise, again, itâs their fault if they are raped
1 faponurmom 2019-12-04
This but unironically
1 Fortizen 2019-12-04
Inshallah
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
Good thing he didn't listen to that "advice.
If he hadn't brought a gun Trayvon would have murdered him.
Why exactly do you think Trayvon was justified in murdering Zimmerman?
1 capthazelwoodsflask 2019-12-04
And if he would have just stayed in his car like he was told to do then no one would be dead. Why do you think he was justified to get out of his car and escalate the situation?
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
he was told he doesn't need to get out of the car.
why are people in a free country allowed to get out of their cars? mmh lets think...
What kind of people live around you, that you find this reasonable? What kind of person, in a gated community of all places, would try to murder you because you leave your effing car? How many hours per day do you stay inside your car, in order to avoid "escalating situations"?
1 snowkarl 2019-12-04
I guess if the Jews just hadn't moved to Germany there would have been no holocaust!
1 twawaytrust 2019-12-04
Based and borderpilled
1 911roofer 2019-12-04
They shouldn't have trusted the Germans. It's like having a picnic with a bear: eventually, it's going to maul and eat you.
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1 selfreplicatingprobe 2019-12-04
Heâs only alive to today because he didnât abide this nonsense. Around certain demographics you need to always conceal carry.
1 capthazelwoodsflask 2019-12-04
And if he had listened to this nonsense then none of this would have happened at all.
1 mechakingghidorah 2019-12-04
And Trayvon would be off burgaling and drug-dealing. Being followed doesnât give you the right to attack somebody.
1 Carniks 2019-12-04
Didn't we ban zoomers?
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1 BernieMadeoffSanders 2019-12-04
imagine having takes shittier than pizzashill
1 mechakingghidorah 2019-12-04
Martin had burglary tools in his pocket,he was up to no good.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
I don't think that's true.
1 Caffeinetank 2019-12-04
Zimmerman did provoke Martin by following him.
However, we do not know who threw the first punch, but it was probably Martin because he wondered why the f this guy was following him.
It could be argued that shooting Martin was justified use of force, though. One of the neighbor witnesses (think it was the Asian guy) noticed that the darker-skinned individual was on top and punching the other guy in the face.
If someone is armed and feels that they may be rendered unconscious and have that gun used against them or have grievous injury done to them, then in most states (not just Florida â you canât retreat if pinned on the ground) one would be justified in using deadly force.
So both parties erred here. Big Z shouldnât have followed, but Lil T shouldnât have brought Skittles to a gun fight.
1 SALTY_COCK 2019-12-04
Idk man usually when people follow me my first instinct isn't to attack them and beat their head in. Maybe if I were trying to commit crimes I would, though.
1 TehAlpacalypse 2019-12-04
He lived in the neighborhood. It's not exactly that much of a stretch to get in a fight with a guy who's clearly following you.
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1 Caffeinetank 2019-12-04
It's still a crime to assault someone unless in imminent danger or acting on the behalf of one who is. So Martin is definitely in the wrong there.
Still, if one is trying to avoid a possible violent confrontation, it's probably not a good idea to follow unknown suspicious suspects down dark alleys. One could be following a criminal that doesn't have their best interest at heart.
1 jaherbster 2019-12-04
Zimmerman just wanted to play cop and got in over his head. He broke the rules and did shit that private citizens are not allowed to do. You can't follow people like that or engage them just because you think they are acting "suspicious".
And the reason why private citizens are not allowed to do that shit is perfectly represented in what happened. Cops are trained in de-escalation, non-violent conflict resolution, and how to defend themselves using non-lethal force.
If private citizens are allowed to do "policing", they would just end up getting into a bunch avoidable unnecessary physical altercations that would escalate out of control until someone dies. And that is exactly what happened.
George Zimmerman decided to play "cop" and Trayvon payed for that mistake with his life.
1 SALTY_COCK 2019-12-04
Lmao Trayvon paid for his (numerous) mistakes with his life. This wouldn't have happened had he acted like a civilized human. There's also no law whatsoever that you aren't allowed to follow someone acting suspicious. It's common sense not to (and to contact law enforcement instead) because it'll often lead to exactly what happened if the person you're following is indeed up to no good, but it's not even remotely illegal. It's just a good thing the whole ordeal turned out as it did - Trayvon dead, Zimmerman off the hook legally.
1 jaherbster 2019-12-04
Walking home from 711 with a bag of Skittles is a crime where you come from?
Or somehow uncivilized?
And following some is most certainly a crime. It's called harassment. And it's is particularly a crime for a private citizen to harass or threaten someone as some form of illegal vigilantism.
The corner stone of civilized society is an organized system of law enforcement whereby private citizens are not allowed to engage in their own renegade "policing".
This is because without the proper training, more often then not, private citizens would just end up getting into 100% unnecessary physical altercations that escalate out of control until some is dead or seriously injured.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
That's a hell of a provocation. Almost as bad as wearing a short skirt.
We actually know a few things:
who had no signs of being punched at all: Traytray
who had signs of punching someone: Traytray's bloody knuckles
who had no signs of punching anyone at all: Zimmerman
who had signs of being punched and smashed against the concrete: Guess that one!
1 Caffeinetank 2019-12-04
In no way did I say that such provocation justified him being assaulted. That's you attempting to take what I say out of context.
However, if I have a strange man following me, I'm going to be on edge and depending on the person, likely to confront them.
There's no evidence as to who threw the first punch, but yes, Zimmerman was getting the shit beat out of him by Trayvon. That's part of what justified him in shooting and killing his assailant.
According to Zimmerman's account, he was walking back to his truck when confronted from behind by Martin. He was then punched and had his mouth covered to muffle any cries for help. Martin also reportedly threatened his life upon doing this. Either way, based on both witness and personal accounts, the shooting was justified.
Those who were drinking the media Kool-Aid rather than looking at the facts would not come to that conclusion, so in no way am I making that conclusion, so don't misconstrue that.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
fair enough
1 MrDinkles7767 2019-12-04
Little T should have stepped the fuck off, but Little T-being a badassed gangsta and all-didnât have the sense to step off, so he got plugged. And guess what? The world didnât miss a beat. Just kept right on rolling while Little T was taking his dirt nap.
1 kristastarlight 2019-12-04
Ah, another redditor who got his JD in the lobby of a Starbucks.
1 IHeartCommyMommy 2019-12-04
It's been fucking years so I'm fuzzy on the details, but I think there is a legal basis for Zimmer committing manslaughter if he was the one who unjustifiably instigated the confrontation. If Martin was justifiably afraid for his safety and did what he did in a reasonable sense of self-defense than I think Zimmerman can be blamed for starting the conflict and would have to take responsibility for the outcome of it, but I could be wrong so go ask the expert prosecutors at /legaladvice lmao
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
That falls apart when it comes out that Trevon was on top of Zimmerman when he was shot.
1 IHeartCommyMommy 2019-12-04
I've never seen anyone reveal so blatantly that they have never been in a fight đđđ
Like, unironically, imagine not knowing that being on top of the other person doesn't mean you're safe and can stop. Like, nigga, if you just get up and say "Excuse me, good sir, I am done with this altercation, have a good day" the other person is gonna get up and beat the shit out of you.
Not to mention, if you had ever actually been in a fight you'd understand that your brain doesn't act analytically in a a fight. You're not pausing every 2 seconds to reassess the situation to see if you're safe, half of your fucking brain is shut down at that point.
I'm not even saying Martin is innocent, I'm just saying that you've never been in a fight and it's fucking obvious lmao
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
Dude, just read.
1 IHeartCommyMommy 2019-12-04
Unironically at this point I don't even care if Martin is guilty or not, the fact that you think that being on top of someone during a fight means that it can no longer be self defense makes me want to give you a God damn atomic wedgie
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
I think that fights are fluid and that you can be on offense at one point and on defense 10 seconds later. If you are in BJJ and pulled someone into guard in order to work them from there, then that's one thing, but in a street fight it's a different situation. Would the fight have gone to where Zim-Zam was acting offensively if Trevon had gotten off of him? I have no idea, but I do know that if he shot Trevon while getting his head slammed into the ground, then it was self defense.
1 IHeartCommyMommy 2019-12-04
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
It's been over 20 years, but I was actively practicing BJJ until about two years ago.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2019-12-04
You're comparing a street fight to sparring in a
dojostrip mall1 thowaway_throwaway 2019-12-04
If the other guy is on top then you CAN'T run away. Full stop. This means that Zimmer no longer can be expected to flee instead of shooting.
1 RIPGeorgeHarrison 2019-12-04
Hmmm.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
Martin was already at his home front door, and Zimmerman waiting 200 yards away from him, when Marin's friend on the phone suggested that Zimmerman may be a gay man, looking to buttsex young thug Tray. Trayvon ran back those 200 yards and attacked Zimmermann.
1 911roofer 2019-12-04
He should've run inside then. Some gay men are into being beaten up.
1 watermark1917 2019-12-04
Trayvon should slammed his head a bit harder than he did
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
I wish you could have had the chance to felate him.
1 911roofer 2019-12-04
Let this be a lesson to all you stupid ass black kids: when a creepy white man is following you when you're casing the joint, don't attack him because he might have a gun. Walk home quietly and calmly, and try to stick to populated areas.
1 yeetsaucepeteross 2019-12-04
*creepy Hispanic man
1 jaherbster 2019-12-04
Yeah but if you pick a fight in a bar, start to lose, then shot the other guy in the heard, that is straight up murder.
And that is what happened here. George picked a fight with a kid who was walking home alone from a 711, started to lose the fight, and shot the kid dead.
And yeah George was in Neighborhood Watch. But Neighborhood Watch has no authority to attempt to engage or detain a person just because they think that they are "suspicious".
In fact that is the whole point of having police in the first place. Police have training in threat assessment, de-escalation / non-violent conflict resolution, and are trained in how to defend themselves and detain suspects using non-lethal force.
So if George had just called the cops and kept his distance like the law requires, this all would likely have been resolved without incident and Trayvon would still be alive. But George broke the law as soon as he engaged with Trayvon. And George is responsible for Travon's death.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
wrong.
he was acting in self-defense.
his defense didn't even rely on Florida's "stand your ground" concept. it would have been self-defense anywhere in the US.
1 watermark1917 2019-12-04
Trayvon Martin was acting in self-defense.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
suuuuuure
1 TheBigDogAteMyAss 2019-12-04
So someoneâs creeping on you at night time and you donât defend yourself? lmao. My god this better be ironic.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
How often have you killed a man, because he was standing on a sidewalk 200 yards away from your house's front door and on the phone with someone suggesting the man might be gay for you?
1 TheBigDogAteMyAss 2019-12-04
Zimmerman, a whale, was getting beat up by a man the size of a grasshopper. If he canât win a fight with that size difference then heâs a cuck. Sorry liberal.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
Zimmerman is a manlet, a foot shorter than the little boy.
And thank god he didn't punch the "kid", because the complete lack of any signs that Zimmerman assaulted Trayvon helped him prove his innocence.
1 TheBigDogAteMyAss 2019-12-04
You forgot one thing: He is a jew. According to all known forces of creation they are the strongest beings in the galaxy.
Therefore, he should've used the remnants of his foreskin to choke out Trayvon without killing him.
1 ironicshitpostr 2019-12-04
My lawyer advised me not to answer that
1 BernieMadeoffSanders 2019-12-04
low rent pizzashill stick to dabbing on yourself, your takes on nig/spic relations are shit tier
1 jaredschaffer27 2019-12-04
Murder was the case that they gave him, unfortunately.
1 TheGentileGiant 2019-12-04
That's not what happened, the police are the one who didnt find probable cause for trial, which created a social media outrage, a change.org petition (lol) and protests.
The only reason this was prosecuted at all was media pressure. Manslaughter or murder doesnt matter, because self-defense absolve him of both. The prosecution litterally had NOTHING.
Source : I am an autist with too much free time who watched a trial about two mutts living in a country where I never ever stepped foot
1 gggg566373 2019-12-04
That. Most people making comments basing their opinions on sound bites or pre-consived prejudice. I drive a lot. That summer I was driving rental with broken radio with only one satellite station working that was broadcasting the trial. I had no choice but to listen. You can hate Zimmerman , think he is piece of s..t. I personally think both of them are in the wrong. But law has a clear definition of murder. Part of me wonder with hundred of people getting killed every year. Would this case be so famous and talked about, if news station correctly identified Zimmermann as Hispanic in the first place?
1 Corporal-Hicks 2019-12-04
Im sure it had nothing to do with the evidence at hand
1 employee10038080 2019-12-04
You forgot the "the prosecutor charged him with murder because he knew murder would be unwinnable" redpill
1 faponurmom 2019-12-04
Based
1 whyguitar 2019-12-04
Manslaughter for shooting a guy who was slamming your head on the pavement - now thatâs woke
1 RIPGeorgeHarrison 2019-12-04
They never do go for radical centrist pills đ
1 TerribleRelief9 2019-12-04
Aye
1 dingleface 2019-12-04
I have to wonder if him going kind of crazy is entirely due to all of the media attention
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
100%
1 Kat_B0T 2019-12-04
People can say what they want, but zimmerman did what any white-Latino man would do when faced with adversity. Youâre either neighborhood watch or you arenât, there is no middle ground.
1 Tzar-Romulus 2019-12-04
Based and Castizopilled
1 Plexipus 2019-12-04
For one brief moment in his life, when he blew away Trayvon, he was truly white
1 Martian737 2019-12-04
I feel so bad for people like you. I say that in the most sincerest form.
1 Plexipus 2019-12-04
Well thank you, it's really hard being a jet setting Chad who crashes Ferraris and charters private planes around the world but doesn't ride them just because he made three billion dollars on Bitcoin
1 --Audrey2 2019-12-04
Salami
1 BlacJeesus 2019-12-04
Your account was created 7 years ago, and you only made 4 comments up until now, and one of them says "salami" on r/drama? Amazing.
1 --Audrey2 2019-12-04
I have social anxiety
1 BlacJeesus 2019-12-04
Yeah, seems legit. Me too tbh. It's only reddit, though. So I've learned to let loose and shitpost.
1 --Audrey2 2019-12-04
If you actually have social anxiety, improve your life and it will go away. Lift weights, dress better, get a hobby. Look into vitamin d and magnesium deficiency.
1 cakeisgreat 2019-12-04
You might have a vitamin deez nuts deficiency (got em)
1 rocinantebabieca 2019-12-04
This is just how the irish became honorary whites.
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-12-04
They were whiter than the whites, so it they were being discriminated against.
1 twawaytrust 2019-12-04
Yet somehow they can dance. It's like horseshoe theory but for dancing.
1 Tzar-Romulus 2019-12-04
Maybe our time will come too!
1 newsmachineplus 2019-12-04
JAFFA CALLING
1 BlastMyBussy 2019-12-04
Really love how they get rushed with calls towards the end
1 capthazelwoodsflask 2019-12-04
It's good to see that the American dream is still alive and well.
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2019-12-04
Based and ferguson-pilled
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
I hope he wins.
Anyone who spent half an hour researching the details of the case, knows he acted in self-defense. This doesn't even rest on "stand your ground", it would have been justified self-defense anywhere in the US.
When he's finished that suit, he should use some of his millions to sue the other big networks and newspapers that lied about him.
1 jaredschaffer27 2019-12-04
He should use them to skywrite offensive and insulting things in Washington and New York, directly above the news bureaus.
1 SALTY_COCK 2019-12-04
Skyright "niggers lmao xD" above Detroit.
1 jaredschaffer27 2019-12-04
Come on dude, you can do better than that
1 employee10038080 2019-12-04
Please excuse him, he's retarded
1 qksj29aai_ 2019-12-04
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1 SALTY_COCK 2019-12-04
You are kinda new to reddit ,arent ya?
One advice: we dont really use emojis . We usw thwm only on those anti vax copypastas and this emoji:đż for jojos bizzare adventures part 4 memes like:
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1 qksj29aai_ 2019-12-04
Uh i uhh u-username checks o-out!
1 cakeisgreat 2019-12-04
2019: not using emojis đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤ŁđŠđđŚđŚđŚ
1 TheLordHighExecu 2019-12-04
It's rightoids, not writeoids
1 911roofer 2019-12-04
I'd help fund this. How does it feel to know your ancestors would've washed your filthy mouth out with soap and gotten da master's whip and hit you with it until you got a job?
1 SALTY_COCK 2019-12-04
TFW your white ancestors considered nigger to be a bad word
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1 Armageddon_2020 2019-12-04
He stalked a kid and then shot him after he was getting his ass beat
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
Untrue.
Trayvon (not a little kid btw) was on the phone with his friend Precious from the movie Precious the whole time.
He was already at his home front door, at that time the Zim Zam was waiting a respectful 200 yards away from Traytray, at the entrance of that street.
Precious suggested to Tray that the Zim was a fag looking to turdburgle the violent thug's butthole.
So poor innocent boy Trayvon ran back up the street and tried to murder big meanie George.
After punching Zim's face and repeatedly smashing Zim's head on the concrete, Tray noticed the handgun, reached for it, and George was forced to defend his life.
All the evidence and testimonies support this version of events. All the alternate stories pushed by various interests are contradicted by evidence or testimony.
Clear cut case of self-defense.
1 Snarkal 2019-12-04
Either this is complete satire or I'm going to ask for a half-decent source.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
not literally the same person
not satire
1 Snarkal 2019-12-04
You gave me nothing but images.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
idk do you have google?
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_George_Zimmerman#Rachel_Jeantel
1 Incoherencel 2019-12-04
absolutely based and on-the-stand pilled
1 beastmane69 2019-12-04
fucking dead
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1 911roofer 2019-12-04
stop downvoting the lolcows.
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1 colormebadorange 2019-12-04
Imagine just getting your ass beat rather than protecting yourself after being attacked.
1 TerribleRelief9 2019-12-04
NBC 100%
1 ason 2019-12-04
My lord, the US media is dog shit. It says he already sued NBC and lost though.
1 Michelanvalo 2019-12-04
He sued NBC as a whole and the Judge felt that NBC wasn't responsible for their local affiliate's actions.
1 faponurmom 2019-12-04
lol there will be massive riots if he wins
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
will there be roof koreans?
1 watermark1917 2019-12-04
ThE sAvAgE bLaX wIlL rIoT
You guys said the same thing back when he was acquitted and jack shit happened.
1 faponurmom 2019-12-04
If you haven't noticed, racial tension and racially oriented political movements have escalated quite a bit since 2012. Also, I never said the blacks. It's going to be a few of them on a megaphone with a majority of retarded white antifa trannies doing their bidding.
1 911roofer 2019-12-04
Is it true Trannies open wounds cause them to just split open sometimes?
1 QWERT123321Z 2019-12-04
Didn't it happen in Ferguson?
1 slugulon 2019-12-04
Lmao the nigs destroyed two of their own cities in like 2015 because black criminals got killed by black cops
1 Cucker_Dog 2019-12-04
Sorry, meant to say chimpout
1 watermark1917 2019-12-04
This is an opportunity for the parents to counter sue the animal, hope they win a lot of money from the monster.
Only thing Iâm sad about is that Trayvon didnât defend himself.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
What are they gonna sue him for?
1 MrGoodKat86 2019-12-04
He obviously should have let their son smash his head open and got a traumatic brain injury.
1 orcish 2019-12-04
Anything less would be racism.
1 mrpopehat69 2019-12-04
He was following the kid around like some pussy little neighborhood watch bitch and then shot him dead
1 MrGoodKat86 2019-12-04
Congratulations you fell for the mainstream narrative! You win the sheep award.
1 PUBLIQclopAccountant 2019-12-04
SLAPP motion
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
clap emoji
1 PUBLIQclopAccountant 2019-12-04
How'd he ever expect to collect on that shit?
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
wait, isn't he suing the local government?
1 mrpopehat69 2019-12-04
Hopefully someone murders your kid one day and then tries to sue you
1 ShadowWolfAlpha101 2019-12-04
Wasn't he cleared of murder? Because if so you're calling an innocent man a murderer, when the same judicial system says otherwise.
1 Gridde 2019-12-04
Ah yes, because the judicial system is famously infallible.
Probably not even the best example but just funny that these two threads are both on the front page.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
Killing in self-defense isn't murder.
1 AnnArchist 2019-12-04
Son of Sam laws should apply to the criminals families too to some degreeđ¤ˇđźââď¸đđđ
1 Gridde 2019-12-04
I'm moving to the USA in a few weeks...just so I'm fully up to speed: Am I generally allowed to arm myself and stalk kids, and then shoot them if they do anything I perceive to be aggressive, and then claim it was self-defence? Or do I need to have some extenuating circumstances (ie be in the neighbourhood watch, or make sure the kid isn't famous/rich/white/female)?
On that note actually, what am I allowed to do if a man with a gun is following me around? Obviously I can't try and disarm him (since that gives him the right to kill me), but just wanna check what options I have that would keep me alive and out of prison.
Thanks in advance.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
The laws regarding concealed carry vary wildly between states.
It's actually legal in the USA to call the police when you see someone walking through people's backyards at night.
You're also allowed to follow them from a safe distance, e.g. 200 feet away, so you know where they're going.
This would not be considered "stalking" in any American court of law.
That would be illegal. However, when is actually about to murder you, you are allowed defend yourself.
By all evidence at the scene, Georgie hadn't even touched Trayvon prior to firing the gun. Meanwhile Trayvon had bloody knuckles, Georgie had a broken nose, bruises, and bleeding on the back of his skull.
The forensic evidence also shows that Trayvon was sitting on top of Georgie when he was shot.
George knew the police was coming any minute. He had good reason not to initiate violence.
Trayvon announced to his friend on the phone, that he was gonna run back up the street and attack the "creepy ass cracker," instead of doing the reasonable thing: open his front door, go inside, maybe call the cops about the weird stranger outside.
when police first interrogated George, they falsely told him that they had video footage of the events. George's immediate reaction was a relieved "thank god!"
Well Trayvon didn't know George had a gun, he only noticed after he had been smashing his skull on the asphalt for a while, at which point he immediately reached for it.
If you feel like someone is following you, but they're actually just standing on the sidewalk 200 feet away from your house, and you're standing at your front door chatting on the phone with a friend: Just go inside! Call the police about it. You don't have the legal right to assault people just because you think they're "creepy ass crackers".
1 LongPostBot 2019-12-04
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1 Gridde 2019-12-04
So "yes I can do that" and "no I don't need extenuating circumstances other than license for a firearm". That's awesome! Might avoid the rich/white kids though, just in case they have promising swimming careers. I gather that can lead to legal complications?
Side note, bit odd to quote a testimony only partially, when parts of the same testimony don't support other bits you said...but you seem to have a deep insight into the mentalities of all parties involved (involving someone who is dead) as well as precise detail of everything transpired, so I'll take your word for it!
Thanks for your help.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
Yes in America you're actually allowed to defend my life.
Where do you come from, where you just have to let people murder you?
1 Gridde 2019-12-04
From the UK, my friend! I think it's just a cultural divide, but over here if doctors testify that you suffered nothing more serious than two minor cuts on the back of your head, you'll have a very difficult time convincing anyone that someone was "smashing [your] skull on the asphalt for a while", so you're probably not allowed to kill whoever punched you.
Think it'd be a different scenario if someone is following you with a gun, though. Of course that is not relevant here, because you have special insight that makes you aware of what precisely went down between Zimmerman and Martin, and have already confirmed that Zimmerman was just innocently profiling a kid who - until that point an innocent citizen himself with no history of violence - decided on the spur of the moment to publicly murder someone outside his house and was most definitely not in fear of his own life.
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Ah, sorry pal. Are these better sources, saying the same thing?
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1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-18093420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJzKYeX0DLI
you were lied to.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
total nonsense
where do you hear all this nonsense?
1 fitness 2019-12-04
HONORARY ARYAN
1 Dramacel69 2019-12-04
Can someone give me a quick rundown on trayvon martin and zimzam? All i know about it is he was a black kid who got shot by a white cop, and that the rightoid praised zimzam and the lefties cried that trayvon dindu nuffin. What's the correct, centrist take?
t. not a burger
1 Corporal-Hicks 2019-12-04
-black kid walking through neighborhood
-Zim Zam think hes robbing stuff
-calls 911
-911 says let it go mah dude
-Zim zam confronts trayvon
-little baby trayvon hits him a few times, gets the full mount and starts smashing his head into the pavement
-zim zam shoots him once
-police investigate
-Clearly the zim got fucked up (look up his picture) and baby tray lost the war
-police state there is no evidence to presecute him as its pretty clearly self defense
-media picks it up and does a hack job of epic proportions making it seem like zim zam hunted this baby black doctor and killed him cold blooded
-people go crazy
-Obama pops in somewhere in here and says "he looks like he could be my son"
-thx obama
-some retarded state prosecutrer steps in and charges zim zam with murder
-case pops off and its a literal circus
-"Thats real retarded sir" meme is spawned
-zim zam gets off, clearly, since the evidence is all in his favor
-riots
1 Dramacel69 2019-12-04
Based white man
1 Michelanvalo 2019-12-04
hispanic white man
1 Tzar-Romulus 2019-12-04
I remember afterwards it became a joke to push someone's hood off and say "Take off the hood Trayvon".
1 Corporal-Hicks 2019-12-04
I still say "that's real retarded sir" all the time
1 Intravenousmemefluid 2019-12-04
CNN's official youtube account's post of the glorious incident
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
that's not what happened at all.
1 watermark1917 2019-12-04
Zimmerman said it so its true
Thankfully he killed the other witness so his word is the only source of absolute truth, and so we know exactly what happened because he told us.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
No, she told us.
1 southy1995 2019-12-04
I can't believe that girl didn't get her own talk show. She had a certain stage presence.
1 yeetsaucepeteross 2019-12-04
Thanks Obama
1 UpstairsInitiative 2019-12-04
Lmao.
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Some relative of his did an AMA on here awhile back. It was pretty informative.
1 watermark1917 2019-12-04
Who cares about what the relative of a criminal said
1 UpstairsInitiative 2019-12-04
Go read it. Seemed to be quite a few people who cared.
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Or dont. Thats cool too.
1 BlacJeesus 2019-12-04
link pls
1 UpstairsInitiative 2019-12-04
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1i9k6e/iama_close_relative_of_george_zimmerman_i_was/
1 JeanPeuplu 2019-12-04
They just can't flim flam the zim zam.
1 Gunnerr88 2019-12-04
Flim flam means what exactly? Pardon the ignorance.
1 cakeisgreat 2019-12-04
You are unable to deceive Mr. Robert Zimmerman
1 BronzeGladiator 2019-12-04
Lmao that dude hid all the replies calling out his bullshit
1 Dramacel69 2019-12-04
Has to be the most retarded Twitter """"feature""""
It literally does the opposite of hiding and highlights replies instead
1 GhostA737 2019-12-04
Thanks for pointing this out. It's pretty much the only way Im going to view twitter ever again
1 FroppyHoppyMyFloppy 2019-12-04
Didnât zim pull a family from a car wreck a few years ago? Thatâs the last time I even thought about this.
1 DepravedMutant 2019-12-04
Yeah but it was just to shoot the kids
2 GM739 2019-12-04
He canât keep getting away with this.
1 Armageddon_2020 2019-12-04
Didnt Zimzam get arrested recently?
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
for being more alpha than the police allows
1 watermark1917 2019-12-04
White people are so alpha they can kill any unarmed child
We literally need to start a fighting match between white men with uzis and unarmed black 12 year olds just to show how impressively strong and superior our race is, Iâm sure weâll win every match and thus defend the honor of our race.
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
The Zim Zam is a proud Latinx POC.
And what's alpha is not defending his life from a violent thug trying to murder him.
He's alpha because, after having his life destroyed, he's turning it around, he's coming back, and he's taking on a bunch of billion dollar industries.
1 Kramer_rulez 2019-12-04
You fell for the trap card
1 Hspeb73920 2019-12-04
No matter what the equities of this situation, this is good for drama.
1 TerribleRelief9 2019-12-04
Reminder that a man tried murdering Zimzam twice and is doing serious time for it
1 watermark1917 2019-12-04
He deserves to do a lot of time for having such poor aim
1 TerribleRelief9 2019-12-04
Reminder that being edgy on the internet is just a phase.
1 TheBigDogAteMyAss 2019-12-04
You canât say that on that on /r/Drama.
1 TerribleRelief9 2019-12-04
Shut up, nigger
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1 hereiamtosavetheday_ 2019-12-04
He was NOT affiliated with any official watch organization - that was legally established.
1 faponurmom 2019-12-04
So what?
1 watermark1917 2019-12-04
It is apparently enough for you to write this angry passive aggressive comment
1 faponurmom 2019-12-04
If you're going to accuse anyone of being passive aggressive, at least know what it means
1 falconear 2019-12-04
So he should have minded his own fucking business and not tried to play cop.
1 niminen 2019-12-04
1 hereiamtosavetheday_ 2019-12-04
That's it exactly. In the US of ohholyhellbabyhelpUS, you have to take classes, do ride-alongs with the police - which the dude did do - and be on the cops' register so they know who those scary armed dudes driving slowly through the neighborhood are. Because that's the MO of the hoodlums, too. Helpful, right? If you don't file the right documents the police will be distracted by your behavior - they WILL get calls from concerned citizens, and are legally required to check out those calls. So they have a filter -- they know which organization is operating in which territory and they have codes that give them an idea of what armed civilians they'll find; the volunteer cops are given codes to identify themselves to the police, and those codes are changed frequently.
You know who knows all about it? The file clerks. When you're a file clerk, you get to hide in a corner and read all the reports, its a lot of fun. Then you basically misfile the report about a carnival of inter-department and field errors under 'misc' and get on with living in 1984.
Neighborhood watches are hooked into the police department. There was none - this was a dude cruising in a car creating his own world. He's a dimestore version of the great psychopaths of crime. The problem is, for him its working, which probably proves there are evil forces gathering close. /cough/ jk
1 colormebadorange 2019-12-04
âBe the change you want to see in the worldâ - Ghandi
âI have a dreamâ - MLK
âYesterday is gone. Tomorrow has not yet come. We have only today. Let us begin.â - Mother Teresa
âI recognize I have faults. I'm accountable for them, and I try to do what I can to correct them. I will say that it's unfortunate that everything I do is scrutinized to the point that it is. Frankly, I don't watch the news, I stay away from political conversations.â - George Zimmerman
1 imadethistoshitpostt 2019-12-04
America is truly the land of the so brave.
Kill a niglet cuz you were mad envious of his Skittles and then sue his parents afterward.
1 twawaytrust 2019-12-04
Man, I could really kill for some skittles right now.
1 jank_king20 2019-12-04
His house is gonna get painted soon enough and I will blast ropes
1 XhotwheelsloverX 2019-12-04
I hope he wins
1 watermark1917 2019-12-04
It will be a victory for the white race, which is so strong they can kill any black teenager they want and sue the victims of their murder
1 simplicity3000 2019-12-04
you must think black people are idiots.
sad
1 kristastarlight 2019-12-04
It takes serious brainpower to murder each other over sneakers so consistently.
1 doughboy011 2019-12-04
You're not from around here are ya
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1 EyeseeFN 2019-12-04
This is better than when he tried to auction off the pistol.
1 Streetlamp_NA 2019-12-04
Or when hes selling dead autographed pics of the kid he killed.
1 DOGPILL-CONFIRMED 2019-12-04
Do black people feel the same when (((Invader Zim))) is back in the news as mayos do when OJ pops back up?
1 Gb_shill 2019-12-04
Can't simmer the zimmer
1 watermark1917 2019-12-04
Tray must have been a badass to give that honkey this much brain damage, those were some jabs, props
1 Gb_shill 2019-12-04
A verbal argument ensued and Chris Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.
Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.
Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the shit out of you when we get home! You wait and see!'
The detective said Robyn F. then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales, who did not answer.
Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.'
After Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!'
Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown.
Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand.
Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant, Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.
Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.
Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of 333 North June Street and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.
Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness.
She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions.
Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order.
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1 youllnevereverknow 2019-12-04
Man, some of these comments are sad. I guess how you really feel about your skin shows when you get to hide behind your phone.
1 hammerdown710 2019-12-04
For real. Iâve never been on this sub before but if I could only go off this post I would say itâs a white supremacy sub
1 911roofer 2019-12-04
Heil Stalin!
1 ashleychudd 2019-12-04
This isnât a white supremacy sub. We are about the law here, buster.
1 hammerdown710 2019-12-04
Anyway you could give me some info on why you believe why a lot of people on here support Zimmerman? Iâm obviously out of the loop and was just a little surprised at the views people had on this thread.
1 ashleychudd 2019-12-04
1) Drama!!! XD
2) the entire trial was a sham, and charges were only brought due to people bitching on social media.
3) Have you actually read the documents on the trial? Plenty of people here are autistic enough to have actually done so.
1 hammerdown710 2019-12-04
A lot of people (Iâm guilty of it too sometimes) donât read anything except headlines which are misleading
And no Iâve never read the official documents cause it just didnât have a lot of impact in my life particularly
1 ashleychudd 2019-12-04
Then why do you have an opinion at all?
1 hammerdown710 2019-12-04
Am I not allowed to?
2 ashleychudd 2019-12-04
It just makes you seem like an idiot tbh.
1 hammerdown710 2019-12-04
Lol I may be stupid, but if thereâs one thing I am not. That is an idiot good sir
1 Kat_B0T 2019-12-04
Quit being a complete retard. If they had any reason to charge him, they would have. If you didnât read about it in detail, donât offer an opinion imo
1 hammerdown710 2019-12-04
Alrightttt big guy
1 Kat_B0T 2019-12-04
Cope
1 200iqBigBrain 2019-12-04
based foid
1 ashleychudd 2019-12-04
I am a moid đĄ
1 Kramer_rulez 2019-12-04
It's a place to make fun of idiots and Treygone was a famous one.
1 ModernChub 2019-12-04
Nah it's a bunch of Cum Town edge lord dipshits who think they are clever and worth something to anyone.
1 doughboy011 2019-12-04
This sub is about as radical centrist as you can get. You wouldn't understand as a normie right off the street.
1 hammerdown710 2019-12-04
Is it a jersey thing?
1 doughboy011 2019-12-04
It's more an autist thing
1 mechakingghidorah 2019-12-04
Cry more faggot.
1 colormebadorange 2019-12-04
Dude nigger lmao
1 youllnevereverknow 2019-12-04
You would never say that to a black personâs face though. So why say it here?
1 colormebadorange 2019-12-04
You answered your own question retard.
1 youllnevereverknow 2019-12-04
You do realize, you just called yourself a coward right? Bitch, maybe?
1 200iqBigBrain 2019-12-04
Any reasonable person is afraid of superpredators.
1 colormebadorange 2019-12-04
Are you completely retarded?
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
Imagine being a grown man playing cop and getting you ass kicked by a kid?
That's why Zimmerman is loved by the right, just another coward with a gun
1 colormebadorange 2019-12-04
Please stay here and post as much of your shit that you can manage in this sub. Our resident retard Pizzashill needs some competition.
1 cornwallace_jackson 2019-12-04
A new home for T_D rejects?
1 colormebadorange 2019-12-04
Even worse, centrists
1 Ghdust3 2019-12-04
IMAGINE #IMAGINE #IMAGINE #IMAGINE #IMAGINE #IMAGINE #IMAGINE
1 camaron28 2019-12-04
Yes. 17 year old are kids. And no, he didn't attack Zimmerman.
Also, you are a piece of shit.
1 Ghdust3 2019-12-04
seethe
1 200iqBigBrain 2019-12-04
ackshually, nearly bashing someone's brains out isn't attacking them, sweaty
1 camaron28 2019-12-04
Imagine believing a fucking nazi.
1 200iqBigBrain 2019-12-04
Imagine thinking that evidence doesn't matter
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1 Pepperglue 2019-12-04
I can't believe there are continuation of Trayvon vs. Zimmerman drama.
This is great.
1 guiltymonkfish 2019-12-04
Fuck all the racist assholes on this thread
1 ttheory715 2019-12-04
I'm in awe at the audacity of Zimmerman when almost was charged. Kills a black kid, no jail time. Then proceeds to auction the gun he killed Trayvon with calling it "A piece of American History", Then charged for aggravated assault against his ex wife after threatening her with a gun. But people in the comments believe that he was actually innocent and that it was self defense. It clearly shows he has no remorse and has lot of questionable history but hey that's just my opinion.
1 200iqBigBrain 2019-12-04
None of those things mean he murdered Tray Tray
What kind of moron wouldn't take $100,000 for a gun?
1 cptnhaddock 2019-12-04
WULD I MISS KROP?? HELL NAW FUK DA SKOOL, FUK DA LUNCH, ND MOST OF ALL FUK DA FACULTY..... IMA MISS SUM OF DA STUDENTS, MAINLY DA BABIES ;)
1 Locha6 2019-12-04
He doesnât have the biggest balls!!! I bet they are shriveled up in a jar over his lawyers mantel! George Zimmerman is nothing.
1 271_ 2019-12-04
Can't flim flam the zimzam
1 Chessen113 2019-12-04
Welp, we got the attention of AHS.
1 camaron28 2019-12-04
Zimmerman is a piecw of shit and i hope he slips on a banana peel and falls down some stairs, then he manages to stand up, slips again and falls down the remaining stairs.
1 cakeisgreat 2019-12-04
You have a goofy sense of humor, really slap stick. I like you :-)
1 camaron28 2019-12-04
Thanks, i copied it from a tweet.
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1 ByCrookedSteps781 2019-12-04
Some people just should be allowed oxygen