Commies LARP about how it’s time to abandon electoralism and take up the 🗡

1  2019-12-15 by Can_The_SRDine

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They are worse than SRDines, they are - may Allah forgive me for saying this - accelerationists.

Wants freedom, gives up their right to vote. This has got to be the dumbest thing I've seen from the commies yet

Wants freedom

Oh really??

That's why freedom is in the italics, cause they fight counter to human concept of freewill

Okay but technically Stalin was free to do whatever the fuck he wanted to.

I'm pretty sure that's the freedom they're talking about.

Wants freedom, gives up their right to vote.

Monarchists lmao

It's freedom from capital, though.

And freedom from freedom

words word word word

There was a stupidpol thread a bit ago where they tried arguing human rights is for libtards. It was neat.

Can you find?

Man I used to have such hope for stupidpol

This is why we need mayocide.

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Couldn’t have said it better.

If all of your time and resources are spent campaigning for someone who is going to raise the minimum wage by a few dollars, you have less time to explain to people why waged labour means they will always be struggling to pay rent and organising them into a revolutionary organisation. This is why the lesser evilism argument doesn't work, if you spend all of your time trying to put out fires, you won't have time to be able to fix the leaky gas pipe causing them in the first place, and in the long term that leads to more fires and more dead/harmed people

Of course! Instead or trying to address specific problems and realizable goals with keyhole solutions we should upside down the entire social, political and economic system. What could go wrong?

Homeless advocacy groups in LA actually protest temporary shelters because they aren't full apartments units being given away.

It totally reflects how bougie they are because they cant understand the immediate need of people who are actually suffering.

Guys help I work for a wage and thus I struggle to pay rent because I have no useful or remarkable qualities and want to live in the middle of a large city where rent is $5,000/month. Killing people is literally the only way my situation could ever get better, and none of it is my fault.

Why do these people think they could survive the purges that would inevitably happen after the communist revolution won?

They unironically think they'd be the ones in charge because they were the ones who organized it all on reddit.com

temporarily embarrassed commissars

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God I fucking despise commies. Everything about them. Their ideology is garbage. They constantly talk about the revolution and killing everyone who doesn't agree with them but they have zero intention of actually starting a revolution. It's all just a big fucking LARP. Many of them are literal fucking children, and the ones that aren't still act like it. They're so smug and condescending when they are the most worthless fucking rats on the planet. There is nothing lower than a commie.

And none of this would get me seething if they were treated like the joke they were, but they aren't. Whenever commies show up in random threads they aren't told to fuck off. Despite having zero tolerance for anyone right of Bernie reddit libs are totally cool with commies.

A dictatorship of the proletariat has worked quite well, in fact Marxism-Leninism is the only Revolutionary theory that has proven success. The USSR had universal healthcare, education, housing, higher standard of living, all while managing to combat the combined forces of every imperialist power combined.

Ok then faggot go live in Russia get a taste of that glorious soviet housing.

https://nintil.com/the-soviet-union-healthcare/

Some equipment like magnetic resonance and computed tomographic imaging devices were almost nonexistant. Advanced medical techniques like 'coronary artery bypass grafting, carotid endarterctomy and angioplasty' also weren't generally available.

To reduce costs, some supplies, like needles, gloves, intravenous tubing or catheters were reused

His report claims only to represent the health system of Leningrad, Soviet Union's second largest city, and so it may be taken as the best the SU had to offer in healthcare.

In rural areas, only 35% of hospitals had hot water, 27% had no sewage system, and 17% had no running water.

An American hospital would be shut down and crawling with lawyers at that point.

You mean if they reused needles? Or if they didn't have running water?

All of them.

That linked comment was written by a tranny like the USSR wouldnt just put a bullet in their diseased brain instantly

They type this from their MacBook in an urban apartment with their smart TV playing Radiohead while they doordash chipotle

I don’t think they realize that only the bourgeoisie they hate so much would be living like that if communism was reinstated.

99.9999% chance they, and everyone they know, would be doing manual labor in a factory or field, going home to a government-provided shack to live with 3 other families and eat their beans and rations.

99.9999% chance they, and everyone they know, would be doing manual labor in a factory or field,

Reddit is reaching such levels of retardation that socialist groups have significant overlap with antiwork groups.

At this point the ven diagram is basically a circle.

Throw in the doomsdayers too

Imagine having an ideology and not having any cognitive dissonance about the contradiction that you KNOW it's 1) by far the best system and 2) hated by the people its supposed to help. How damaged is your brain to not see that as a warning sign.

none of this would get me seething if they were treated like the joke they were, but they aren't. Whenever commies show up in random threads they aren't told to fuck off.

Reddit has lowkey become a leftist grooming area. I genuinely dont know how to lance the infestation. Its doubly problematic because millennials have basically given up on accomplishing anything and would rather bitch about boomers.

libs are totally cool with commies.

This is schizoposting

Go on any reddit thread and start calling people comrade and talking about the revolution, see how many people downvote you or tell you to fuck off.

In fact there's a great example at the top of worldnews right now

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/eanbdi/greta_thunberg_tells_cheering_crowd_we_will_make/?st=k46d0y6z&sh=b88a1d02

Tons of posts saying "hey putting them against the wall that sounds like a good idea"

Because commies organize brigades on Discord like you wouldn’t believe. They’re even more committed to it than vegans are.

There's still nobody telling them to fuck off

This is not true, look at literally any thread in /r/europe that they try to brigade.

Former soviet-bloc Europeans are the only ones based enough to tell them to fuck off. Americucks and western euros don't

Former soviet-bloc Europeans are the only ones based enough to tell them to fuck off.

Too bad they're slavs.

Some are balts

Water Slavs

No, it's based and commiepilled. Now silence, or expect more downvotes!!!

Real schizopostibg is downvoting the lolcows

Democracy has never been tried yet.

Direct democracy and communism are both equally failed ideologies

But so are all of the other ones.

No they aren't lmao

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Since they won't vote for us we could just kill them

Not me though, someone else do it.

Honestly that's the main thing that pisses me off about commies.

Like I don't give a shit if you want to kill everyone who disagrees with you, but at least don't be a pussy that expects someone else to do all the killing for you while you sit back and post on reddit.

They just wait around expecting better men to do their dirty work for them.

You could say that about literally any idea in any context. There will always be more people saying it's a good idea than implementing it.

Based Centerist Chad

The voting public doesn’t like our ideas

Surely we know better than them, we must execute them as counter revolutionaries

Most online Socialist spaces are populated by young people who have blamed capitalism for the failings of people. Capitalism is a market force, and properly regulated(as it was post-great depression), is the most successful system to uplift the poor.

Reddit in particular has a high-concentration of accelerationists. People who are anti-capitalist because they hate the rich, not because they love the poor.

Well said. It’s difficult to imagine these people feeling love for anybody at all.

If only the people had more control everything would be better.... besides elections, people are really blowing it at the starting line of my utopia.

There weren't really compromises on that in the Corbyn manifesto

That’s the problem they didn’t go left enough where they put only one party to vote for

So many tears to drink my sodium intake is thru the roof it’s like a Vietnamese bowl of soup after that Corbyn massacre

We are all gonna die of salt poisoning in 2020

But the goal isnt social democracy here, the goal is communism.

Mask off

Socialism is communism. -Lenin

Social democracy isn't socialism you retarded Amerimutt.

I love it it’s like saying it’s not rape of white people. Its rape of white people black people voted for so its different its ethical this time

What are you ranting about fentnigger?

I’m saying adding adjectives to rape still means its rape. Just cause you got one half to vote to rape the other half still means it’s rape

Its just like what the Germans did when they voted in a totalatarian that said he would take away their ability to vote in the future and they did and we got hitler. Why would anyone willfully vote for communism? Are you seriously this stupid?

Why does the Corbyn manifesto read like a hostage demand newsletter? I mean it said landlords have to sell to tenants for a fair price set by the Labour Party

Even if you do win a majority, you can’t pass anything too radical or the forces of the state will move against you, think Gough Whitlam or Salvador Allende.

They're so desperate to come up with one case in history where communism was popular and not imposed by force that they have to make up crazier and crazier lies about Allende. He got 36.2% of the vote because the right was split, and he took that as a mandate to start playing around like Fidel Castro and ruling by decree. If that's "democratically-elected" then I guess Trump can declare himself dictator and if that's a majority then I must have really not been paying attention to elementary school math class.

Also the Gough Whitlam bullshit. 😂

Also the Gough Whitlam bullshit. 😂

Ah yes, the conspiracy theory that Whitlam himself denied.

32-38% is the authoritarian sweet spot.

The front lines of the upcoming socialist revolution will include:

  • 120 lbs vegans

  • Trannies who have to quit halfway through the battle to dilate

  • Upper middle class college professors who have never been outside an urban area

  • Terminally online twitter posters

  • Fat faggots with neon hair

The front lines of the upcoming socialist revolution will NOT include:

  • Anyone from the working class

Labour has won elections under the UK system in the past. If they want to win an election again they should try not being utter shite.

The UK’s demographics have changed fundamentally since Old Labour. If they want to win then they’d honestly do better to readopt Blairism.

“Oh they don’t want our policies? Well they’ll want them at gunpoint .”

Socialist/male-feminist venn diagram circle time

Conservatives in the western world openly declare democracy doesn't matter, why shouldn't the left also?

I've long been saying this - every state the DNC captures for example should be gerrymandered to hell and back.

I want voter suppression laws targeted at rurals too. I want their voting machines removed, put in gated communities, all kinds of insane shit.

It's time to stop pretending conservatives care about the law.

It’s important to make a distinction here: the rurals aren’t “conservatives” so much as they’re boomer populists who don’t actually care all that much about whatever ideological underpinnings conservatism might once have had. Of course, movement conservatives in the English-speaking world have been a mix of stupid and malicious ever since Reagan, but their stupidity and malice play out in very different, less dangerous ways.

Also, I agree with almost everything you say, but you are kinda insufferable 😉

They're very socially conservative at least in the US. They seemingly only vote on cultural outrage issues and racial grievances.

Yeah but they aren’t thinking their conservatism out. It’s a completely knee-jerk, tribal form of politics.

I actually grew up in these areas tbh. A lot of my friends from these places practice what I'd call "cultural conservatism" more so than anything else. As in being a conservative is simply ingrained in them culturally, even if they prefer left-leaning policies.

For example - a friend I grew up with spams FB pretty often about "welfare leeches" and the like, but he was on every form of government aid under the sun growing up and would often eat at my house.

It's more of a social identity, which lines up with other stuff I've read:

https://blog.lareviewofbooks.org/interviews/rhetoric-escalates-talking-lilliana-mason/

Again my own related work uses the term “constrained.” If you have a “constrained” set of issue positions, then all of your policy preferences consistently swing to the left or to the right. The people with well-constrained issue positions often have more extreme issue positions also. But for many voters, an identification with an ideological label means something different than holding a constrained set of issue positions. You might call yourself a conservative, and feel very, very strongly identified as a conservative, and still not actually hold consistently conservative policy positions. In fact, a number of political scientists have found that the American electorate, as a whole, prefers on average left-leaning policy positions. But on average, this same electorate calls itself conservative. And because we do have these generally left-leaning policy preferences as an electorate, conservative politicians feel the need to double down on conservative social identification. Matt Grossmann and David Hopkins published a book called Asymmetric Politics about this difference between Democrats and Republicans. So we might anachronistically think of Democrats as the “identity politics” party, but it actually makes much more sense for Republicans to campaign on identity.

This is a really long way of saying you don't fuck.

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That’s exactly what I’ve been saying ITT. For every William F. Buckley wannabe, there are a hundred people who vote Republican because they think that the Democrats will let transgender Muslims ban high school football and replace the Pledge of Allegiance with the Shahada. That’s why even Tucker Carlson gave up the neo-Buckley act and started pandering to flyovercels.

I wonder to what extent these people exist due to corporate engineering tbh. For example - republicans weaponize conservative cultural values to find electoral success while often running on an anti-working class platform.

They’re mobilized from above but this is accomplished by appealing to people’s already-existing prejudices.

Yeah, they exist already, but do you think they would overpower the economic interests in absence of the conservative engineering?

It probably depends on whether or not these people are feeling the economic pinch.

You're both out of touch with fentanyl Americans. You have no idea what you're talking about.

You think stupid people require "corporate engineering"?

Lol....

No, but engineering makes stupid people more of a threat.

Yeah I don't think corporations have to do much to get stupid people to do stupid things....

Just own what you do. I do ...

For example - republicans weaponize conservative cultural values to find electoral success while often running on an anti-working class platform.

It's not republicans who do this, it's you, silly.

People don't vote for policies, people vote for their representatives, literally. Some of the decisions those representatives end up making are zero-sum: subsidize this with taxes collected from that. So people vote for representatives that are "on their side", which involves at the very least not openly hating them.

Most of that is not a conscious calculation but ancient political instincts. A hundred thousand years ago our hunter-gatherer ancestor supported Ugh's plans to go hunting up the river not because he believed that there are more antelopes there but because then Ugh would be in charge of divvying up the meat and they happen to be cousins twice removed.

So going against that instinct with "yeah we call them a basket of deplorables but if only they looked at our actual policies..." is political autism.

The GOP, as a party that appeals to only a single demographic, is more based on idpol than a party that appeals to every other demographic.

The GOP platform is also far more friendly to business and anti-worker than the democratic platform.

Did you respond to a wrong comment?

No, my point is it's not democrats weaponizing this. The GOP is the most idpol based party in US history.

What identity tho? There are tons of women, tons of hispanics, tons of asians, noticeable numbers of blacks even.

What I think is the GOP identity is "dems hate us and call us deplorables", that's it. If you feel that a smug SRDine means you when it spits out "those people" then you are those people.

I linked it.

For example:

https://blog.lareviewofbooks.org/interviews/rhetoric-escalates-talking-lilliana-mason/

So within studies of American political behavior, social psychology, and sociology, people have been writing about the concept of social identities for years. I didn’t invent the concept of “mega-identities,” otherwise known as identity alignment or complexity (or as the absence of cross-cutting identities). But essentially, the concept is that people have a huge number of different group identities, any of which might seem the most salient at any given time. I mean, you have an alma mater. You have a hometown. You might follow sports teams. All of those designations involve you (and a bunch of other people) identifying with a certain group label and considering yourselves connected to one another. And in general, we know from social-identity theory that the identity at the top of your mind at any given moment most likely will be the identity facing the most pressing threat. And partisan identity plays its own unique role, since we have regularly scheduled threats to the status of our party, right? Every two years we sense a potential threat to this particular group identity. Every time you go through one of these status contests, also known as elections, your party might lose, though you still also have these other parts of your identity, which may or may not connect to your party’s victory or loss.

Or:

And here Marilynn Brewer’s work on identity alignment also shows us that if most members of Group A also belong to Group B, we can consider these well-aligned identities. Brewer has found that when two or more identities strongly align, then the people within these groups feel more intolerant towards out-group members. Take the example of people possessing both Irish and Catholic identities. If you’re Irish Catholic, you probably know a lot of Irish people and a lot of Catholic people. You don’t necessarily need to know a lot of non-Irish or non-Catholic people, because they’re not necessarily part of your group. But if you’re Irish and Jewish, then you probably know some non-Irish and some non-Jewish people, since you yourself don’t fit into any well-overlapping categories. So just being a member of two non-overlapping identity categories breeds tolerance, because it exposes you to a broader range of people. At the same time, well-aligned categories breed intolerance because you can think of “outsiders” as unlike you in multiple ways. So once these mega-identities get formed, we start to think of out-group partisans as quite different from us — not just in terms of their political views, but also racially, religiously, and with any number of overlapping categories. We feel ever more socially distant from these out-group members, which makes it easier to dehumanize them, to think about them with less generosity.

The point is, Republicans have smaller identity groups. If you were to pull any 2 democrats out of a group, chances are they'd have conflicting identity groups in some area.

But that isn't the case with Republicans for the most part. This is why conservatives run on social identity so hard.

All them words won't bring your pa back.

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Did you respond to a wrong comment?

Sounds like liberals

Stop downvoting the lolcows