rutgers calculus professor catches 126 students cheating and lib*ral arts c*ls C*PE as their lives are completely preventably ruined

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Premed too lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/rutgers/comments/gb5jcu/premed_nailed_for_cheating_is_it_over_for_me/

Can you imagine the guy who's supposed to cut you up making such a rookie mistake? Bullet dodged

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/rutgers/comments/fp6d6o/chem_162_exam_was_so_fucked_up_even_i_failed_it/

All of this is new to everyone, and there are bound to be some mistakes. We all know how hard it is for many of you to adjust to online learning. Let's just cut everyone a little bit of slack for now.

Must have been a hard month.

Day of the Honor Code committee is now.

Can you imagine the guy who's supposed to cut you up making such a rookie mistake?

Yeah, which is why I will never let Dr. Tyrone or Dr. Juan operate on me

Only Dr. Chang because I know he's the most qualified

That is till he spills bat soup into your open wound lol

Dr. Chang? Who most likely got his medical degree from China where cheating like this is not looked down upon and is actually expected?

Racist 😤

Go with Dr. Muhammad. He’s brown enough to face discrimination in America, but still is regarded as white when he applies to medical school.

All my homies favorite doctors are brown(ish)

Muslim doctors are trained to thrive in medical school. They stay sober and do intermittent fasting while their classmates get fat and develop drinking problems.

Cannot confirm. All the Muslims I knew in college drank like mad. They do fast tho.

I will only go to a white dude for doctor stuff because I know that there are no affirmative action points for him.

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I've been operated on multiple times and the one time I went to a non-white surgeon he botched it and made the problem worse.

Not even being racist about it, but I only go to white doctors now.

I'm poor so I only can afford doctor nick

All of this is new to everyone, and there are bound to be some mistakes.

What the fuck. Those are college students, for God's sake. They are not elementary kids who just got their first exam.

Play stupid game, win stupid prize.

Ever wonder why Caribbean medical schools are able to stay in business? This here 👆

Cereally post here. No Judgement. Do failed American pre-meds go to the Caribbean? That's both hilarious and disturbing.

Yup. Grenada attracts a few basic types of people:

  • Fools who think that a Caribbean MD degree is a better investment than a US DO degree in the current year of our Lord.

  • Desis whose parents are absolutely determined to have a doctor in the family

  • Delusional fuckleheads who think "so what if I had bad grades in college because my work ethic is terrible, and my MCAT score was pathetic? I'll rise to the occasion under pressure."

  • Cheaters who basically blacklisted themselves from every MD and DO school in Burgerstan and Leafland, who still want to be doctors. These are probably the only people who might be able to go Caribbean and turn out okay, but they're still gonna be taking on a shitload of debt and be limited to the lower-paying specialties.

That last bullet point is sad. 😫

I mean, I feel for these young dumbasses, mistakes happen and you pay for them (legally, even). But after that mistake, their drive leads them to places the American legal and Education system doesn't want to go. We need a discipline test. I've got some ideas for this, but every one would probably land the tester in prison.

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Point 3 is the saddest, because they're the ones least likely to get any sort of return on investment, and they're also why Caribbean schools are profitable.

No refunds.

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Premed is like calling yourself an entrepreneur while you run a t-shirt company out of your mom's basement. Let us know when you get into med school and then maybe we'll give a fuck.

Lol 80% of the incoming freshman at my alma mater were ""premed""

Pre-law were just frat stars that didn't want to put the coke bag down

“Future physician” in their tinder bios, a white coat photo for bonus points.

Hero 😍

Vandy?

University of Michigan

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Played video games all day instead of studied. Why I fail??? Rona's fault.

Muh muh muh my corona

lol there's a lot of cheater cope in the downvoted replies. Beautiful. Does anyone know how the university knows who cheated?

From what I can gather:

  • Kids are taking tests from home online cause of the 'rona.

  • Students when taking the test log onto Chegg and post the questions to get answered.

  • TA for professor had signed up on Chegg and other similar sites to look for this type of thing.

  • TA gives bogus answers to tests and rtrds use them.

  • Said rtrds get BTFO and will go on to complain about the government not paying for their student loans and rant about how B*rnie can still win.

Based summary

How...how can you get into any higher education institution and be THAT fucking stupid? It's lower-division calculus FFS. Just copy and paste shit into Wolfram-Alpha!

How...how can you get into any higher education institution and be THAT fucking stupid?

Somebody has to pay tuition and the loans can't be defaulted. Let everyone in.

Higher education should be by scholarship only. No need to waste it on the stupid kids.

Imagine scholarships but for smart wh*te men

Rutgers accepts literally anyone from NJ — it’s where everyone gets shunted to college whether they’re ready/capable or not

No they don’t lol it’s not Rowan or William Patterson

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Affirmative action

Getting into a US college is easier than enlisting in the USMC as a human meet shield.

So like 20 push ups and not smoking weed?

Pretty impossible standards.

A serious answer? There are a couple of things that make it a lot more difficult to enlist in the US military than the average American college. To get into just some random college program, you need to just sit there while someone from student finance fills out your loan paperwork and you just drool on the final page as your signature.

What is hilarious to me is that people, especially on reddit, get insanely upset when you point out the fact that getting a communication degree over the course of six years from a party school is not a major life achievement.

And neither is joining the workfare program of the military for a couple of years spending half of that time learning basic life skills how to to make your bed and fold your shirts.

Right, it's almost like they're both for the bottom of the barrel xd

The dumbest boot at least gets paid. Students at fifth-rate state schools pay to do it.

There should be jobs for unskilled labor that pay decent wages, this existed in the past and it can exist today. Our problems do not at all result from the lack of a skilled workforce. That is the wealthy passing the buck for their greed.

Where could unskilled people get decent wages? Factories. Why can't they work in factories now? Factories shut down and opened overseas, governments flooded the country with immigrants who do the jobs for slightly more than what a jannie earns, and robots decreased the need for people.

Be more isolationist. Stop immigration. Tax robots. We can make America great again 🇱🇷

In any technologically advanced society the individual's fate MUST depend on decisions that he personally cannot influence to any great extent. A technological society cannot be broken down into small, autonomous communities, because production depends on the cooperation of very large numbers of people and machines. Such a society MUST be highly organized and decisions HAVE TO be made that affect very large numbers of people. When a decision affects, say, a million people, then each of the affected individuals has, on the average, only a one-millionth share in making the decision. What usually happens in practice is that decisions are made by public officials or corporation executives, or by technical specialists, but even when the public votes on a decision the number of voters ordinarily is too large for the vote of any one individual to be significant. [17] Thus most individuals are unable to influence measurably the major decisions that affect their lives. There is no conceivable way to remedy this in a technologically advanced society.

If I wanted to read essays I would become a high school english teacher

You can't be around kids. We have been over this, ya pedo.

Imagine having so little respect for our prophet and saviour Uncle Ted 😤

You say all of that like it’s a bad thing.

What if the average person is a semi-mindless orc who needs to be given orders if he’s to make anything of his life?

That's one of the things that keeps me awake at night.

robots decreased the need for people

You could have just written this. America could go full autarky and uncredentialed hicks would still be unemployable, because companies would double down on researching 🤖. The only result would that people like me would have to pay higher prices for worse products.

If people wanted to buy American shit they would. No one wants $30 underwear. The market is just aggregate preference yo

feel free to open a communal factory, no one is stopping you.

holds up sack of franzia Hiiii my name's McKaylaugh, I'm majoring in communications and maybe a minor in sociology and I'll be rushing kappa kappa kappa this fall ^ ^

You look like you skipped every single leg day. Maybe no shorts wife beater outfits for you

Did you respond to the right comment?

Imagine being on my level

tru

Getting into the military now is definitely more difficult than getting into college. 1/3rd of 18 year olds are too fat for service. That special ADHD script Mommy got you for Adderall and extra time on tests? Disqualified. Asthma? Disqualified. All that "trauma" you suffered and required so much therapy for? Disqualifying. They military is one of those few places where there's an actual concern that the people they take will actually be able to do their job. Whether they succeed at that is a seperate question - but it is one of their priorities.

In contrast, most universities and student loan programs are simply incredibly refined wealth extraction, all about volume, volume, volume. Doesn't matter if they're too stupid, underqualified and have virtually no chance of success - They're going to be paying you back in that $100k for the next 20 years and there's no way they can get out of it.

They also have some random-ass rules about tats. Basically the less fighting they’re doing, the pickier they get about stupid shit.

i doubt they were incapable, geps are just a waste of time and a money making scam. 99% of chegg users will go unpunished; exposing them would expose how pointless 90% of colleg is

What I meant was that using Chegg for Calc I is like training wheels on a tricycle.

The thing that bothers me as a STEMcel is why cheat on Calc 1? You're gonna use that shit for the next 3 years atleast. You're gonna have classes the require you to use the skills and methods you learned in this class to solve even harder problems. Why handicap yourself when can spend a little more time learning the material and set yourself up for better grades in the future?

Derivatives: X2 -> 2X

2X3 -> 6x2

6+3X4-> 12X3

Integrals: 2X -> X2 + c

6X2 -> 2X3 + c

I don’t see how people think basic calc is hard. It’s just as easy as algebra. I’d be more understanding if it were Calc 2 because fuck trigonometric substitution for integrals

The leap in difficulty between Calc 1 and 2 is pretty crazy. Calc 2 is just awful to get through. Might have been because personally I had an awful professor, but most people I’ve talked to said that Calc 2 is the worst Calc class.

It really is. I’ve only heard one person say calc 3 is harder than calc 2

Calc 3 was harder for me only because I drank like a fish my first year and I had this Chinese professor who basically just wrote notes on the board exactly from his notebook with some cursory explanation.

I've never heard that in my life and I don't see how it could be, it's literally calc 1 with two extra steps

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Calc 3 was harder for me but that’s because my university thought it would be funny to only have grad researchers teach it.

Tbh that sounds pretty funny to watch

It’s funny until you realize you paid for it

I found calculus is one of those subjects where the professor really can make or break you. For my calc class, I used Khan Academy and was able to turn Fs into As. My professor was a snooty Frenchman who really didn't like answering questions. Khan Academy though was great. Watched videos, did problems, and was able to really turn things around. Probably didn't even need to go to class because the professor didn't teach me anything. lol

I think Physics is another one of those types of subjects, but I had good Physics teachers so I didn't need to find other sources. Organic chem is another one too. I had a great Org I professor where I got As. Got into Org II and the professor was really terrible and struggled.

I fucking hate French and Indian professors with a passion, the ones I had had such a thick accent you couldn't understand them for shit in a lecture hall.

Didn't help that the TA's were all Indian too and hardly knew shit and barely had a grasp of the english language. The Chinese and Korean TA's were pretty awesome tho, they and YouTube videos got me through a few CompSci classes.

All wasted money in the end, you can teach yourself the same shit for free and land a decent job without paying 2000$ a class listening to some "professor" Mumble in French or Hindi for 18 hours a week.

My school was interesting because there were majority of certain nationalities depending on subject. Physics was russians. Chemistry was indians and chinese. Virology/Bacteriology/Bio stuff was white people.

And yeah, the indian professors sucked balls.

This actually makes me seethe a bit at some memories.

My university hired an Indian professor who did not actually speak English. They gave him three sections of 200 students. He would sit up there, for a two hour lecture and mumble broken half sentences while scribbling on a fucking overhead transparency projector that he had set up too close to the screen to read. His TAs couldn't understand him and basically checked out within the first two weeks of the course.

I actually had a pretty solid grasp of Calc 1 material from other classes, and still would have failed. If you didn't follow the exact step by step process he used on his overheads, you got zero credit on exam questions. Since the technique was bizarre, not communicated in English, and not in the textbooks, no one could do so - including his TAs.

The highest score on his midterm exam was 22%. These lectures were roughly half filled with asian pre-med tryhards. He fully intended to fail all 600 of the students before his department stepped in and forced him to curve the entire course. Probably due to how loud the asian premeds screamed bloody murder.

Been there, it is rediculous. Clear, easy to understand English should be the first thing they look at when they're hiring professors at American universities.

I couldn't give a rats ass if they're the best in their field and have a nobel prize, if I can't understand them I ain't learning jack shit.

And how the fuck they gonna hire a guy that hardly speaks English to teach at an English speaking University, shit makes me unreasonably angry and go on rants.

Yeah. This was not a shit tier university either. I think they had four nobel laureates on their faculty at the time. They consistently did greedy, negligent and incompetent shit worse than I've ever seen in the most dysfunctional corporate environment - or hell, government environment.

Every time they re-add me to their Alumni spam I want to call them up and tell them they're never getting a fucking cent from me. And the only mentorship I have for their current students is to record all conversations with administrative staff.

Whichever calc has taylor series is the worst calculus course. The only thing comparable in difficulty were pdes

Any decent intro calc course will cover way more than that, typically all the simple rules are reviewed on day 1 as you should have some experience with calculus in high school if you are taking it in uni.

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Are you serious? That power rule only works for very basic forms of equations.

The power rule is all you really need for calc 1 you commie

It covers maybe 60% of Calc 1. You still need to learn harder stuff.

dont forget u substitution and lhopital's rule to check your limits

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this is what you need to pass a course in American college?

no wonder burgers are dumb

Rent free in the brain of the eurocuck

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Back when I was in school they scheduled one of our Calc 2 exams on St. Patrick's day. I believe the class average was for that test was in the low 30s lmao

That is one of the worst ideas I’ve heard in a minute 😂

was the exam late in the day? I'd think the day after St. Patties day would be way worse.

I think it started around 3 or 4 pm..? it's been almost a decade lol

Trig is awesome. Not a day goes by where I don't see a triangle with one angle and a length known and I say to myself "I got this shit"

Oh trig substitution in integrals is a whole different beast lol

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Lol I did that shit in grade 12, didn’t do integrals though but it’s apparently just derivatives backwards

There is a lot more to integrals than that, considering that portions of equations can be integrated differently depending on their combination. There's also a lot more to Calc 2 than integrals, such as series.

People think it is hard because they don't bother trying to understand what is actually going on. They try to approach it like they approach the rest of schooling and just learn one bit long enough to regurgitate it on the exam. But math is all built on top of the rest of the math you learned. If you don't actually internalize what an integral or derivative is actually doing then it's hopeless.

They don't know what it means to find the area under the curve or rate of change and it's really important to know why you're doing things to actually remember how to do them.

I've taught calculus for a while now both tutoring and as a TA. The issue most students typically have is with the algebra needed to do before you apply differentiation or integration.

Since most students jump in from highschool algebra/precalculus/ap calculus to college calculus, algebra skills tend to be severely lacking. Honestly I think there should be a rigorous college algebra placement exam(and for the love of God don't just pass barely highschool level algebra skills) and if you don't pass you must take a college algebra course.

It depends on what you're going into, like if you do computer science like me you're never going to use what you learned in calculus again in your life. What's important in computer science is discrete math, a lot of times you use summation, which is more or less the discrete equivalent of integrals, but you never use calculus.

You don't need calculous directly but it's good to know in case you ever stray into stats while doing software. You don't need to know all the math yourself but you should be familiar with the concepts.

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Unbelievably based. This is the way. Weed out those retärds. If you need to cheat for cal I you might as well just give up while you're ahead and not waste all that money. The professor is doing them a favor tbh. I slept through all of cal I and probably half of cal II.

Wat race r u

Mayo 🤮

That's how I kinda understood it too. Chegg gave up their IPs, so professor just needs to match IPs with what I assume is logged IPs of test takers to bolster claims of academic fraud.

How could they not pass the test with such big brains

What I got from the thread was these were very new questions+answers, which makes identification trivial.

So I've seen the screenshot going around

Basically the professor uploaded fake answers to chegg for an impossible question and everybody who answered with the chegg answer got a 0 on their exam

As college dropout who used any resource available to skip work and get passing grades until that didn't work anymore...fucking based.

Did some reading and it's been said that's just a rumor or even a different situation entirely. Well, this is bound to make its way to a local newspaper at least

That's so fucking awesome lmao

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lol ouch.

Calculus is absolutely useless unless you're in engineering. I finished my bachelor's in computer science and haven't had to derive shit or find and limits in my 5 yesterday in the field.

It's mostly for data science and machine learning shit. Math in Masters is brutal.

Nah I've done data science and machine learning projects and never used calculus. Like there may be calculus going on under the hood but that's taken care of by the libraries.

The people who write those libraries need to know it. That's probably what he means by "data science and machine learning shit".

Most of the careers in data science are literally just throwing together random shit and hoping it marginally improves things. It's very ad hoc and experimental more than theoretical. Only a small number of people build and maintain the libraries.

I believe that the theoretical components of a Comp Sci degree are beneficial for a developer from a larger perspective, in that they provide a larger, shared context in which problems can be approached and solved. I would think it would be the same for data science and machine learning. I can learn the libraries, but I won't have the same depth of understanding as someone who understands the underlying mathematics. Much in the same way that knowledge of the von Neumann architecture can reinforce one's understanding of software concepts like caching.

Can't you just make a throwing random shit macro

Computer science IS developing these libraries, not throwing some shit data together and calling it a ML project. A CS degree should ideally prepare you to understand them.

Nope 99% of the time with a CS degree your going to bring throwing shit together. The guys who make the libraries are a small fraction of the work force when it comes to "data science".

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Learning how to learn calculus is way more useful than learning calculus.

learning how to learn anything--the ability to teach yourself is more valuable than anything you're ever going to be taught in any school.

The self-discipline and learning patterns I've been forced to teach myself during my coding bootcamp the last few months is worth eons beyond anything I got out of undergrad tbh

Even with a full CS degree you learn more about good coding in the first year of a real software engineering job than your whole degree, although the degree comes with an appreciation for what's going on under the hood and is occasionally very useful.

meme bootcamp instead of learning it in college

meme bootcamp instead of learning it in college

meme bootcamp instead of learning it in college

You just blew my fucking mind

Calculus is also completely useless in engineering, don’t kid yourself. You just need to know how fundamentally basic and partial derivatives work and you’ll be okay

Ok well then you have to know it if your an astronomer or physicist. Which 99 % of all undergrads aren't.

pretty much the only people who actually use that shit are researchers, idk anyone in industry who uses calculus for engineering

Well you stopped at bachelor's. I would say you'll see calculus in some shape or form in p much every topic in mathematics master's level and up.

me see goat. me want eat goat.

Computer science is almost all discrete math, calculus is continuous. The closest thing you'll find to calculus in most compsi math is summation, which is more or less the discrete equivalent of integrals.

You really don't know what you're talking about.

Optimization problems require a great deal of calculus. The objective function typically needs to be differentiated which can be quite complicated to do in many cases.

Doing anything that requires stats beyond one dimensional statistics? You're gonna be using multivariable calculus.

There's even a very simple example that you must have seen if you've taken any sort of algorithms course. Asymptotic big-O notation which involves the definition of limits. Algorithmic analysis in general can end up using a good deal of calculus, especially when dealing with approximation algorithms.

I haven't even touched upon specific use cases which end up requiring graduate level analysis knowledge.

Sure if you're just a software engineer you'll have no use for it. But if you're actually researching and contributing to the field of computer science I can't imagine not knowing calculus techniques.

And fyi discrete math and continuous math aren't totally separate. The field of anaytic number theory and its prime number theorem is a testament to that.

Exactly, how many people get their masters and eventual PhD, not many. 99% of undergrads are never gonna use it. I doubt a single person is sitting their doing basic calculus by hand as part of their job every day unless they're in academia, in which case they couldn't make it in the real job market anyways.

Compute cells use discrete mathematics (only if you’re in some kind of algorithm optimization PhD)

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Math is not about teaching something. It's about throwing out the ret@rds because IQ tests are considered r@cist nowadays.

There are plenty of degrees you can get without taking advanced math, I'd say at least 75% of them.

Yeah and thos degrees are enhanced via the selection by the maths.

Unironically a chi-squared test is a million times more useful than an integral.

Yeah stats and discrete math are about the only math that carried over from undergrad that I occasionally use.

I graduate with a math degree in 2 weeks and haven’t used calc in 3 years lmao

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Big ups to my ni**as at Chegg

I'm really curious as to how you can justify this decision. Imagine going out of your way to ruin 126 kid’s lives because they looked up a fucking calc problem while they were in the middle of enduring the most emotionally and mentally traumatizing time since 9/11? You're a piece of shit. I'm not in Calc 135 and I've never used Chegg, but I'm truly astounded by your utter lack of empathy given the circumstances. Get over yourself.

lol

Unbelievably based. Someone mod this professor.

You weren't even AWARE during 9-11 if you're an undergrad now. Stop pulling the COVID card, you whiny, entitled brat.

Retroactive [self-]justification.

My GOD... What has this nation become???

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most emotionally and mentally traumatizing time since 9/11?

Comparing rona to 911 is

9/11 is a meme tragedy tho

<3k dead vs >200k dead 🤔

The hijacker should've just coofed on the planes, that would've been more effective.

What is with kids born between 1996-2001 (some exceptions apply) that make some so goddamn emotionally fragile to everything? It's goddamn calc 1

Open note

Open book

It's not even like real calculus.

pre 1995 Millennial are garbage but holy shit this gen is worse

Any students failing an open note and open book exam have no excuse.

911 wasn't traumatic either unless you were actually at ground zero.

The rest of the country watched on TV and panicked for like a day and then the sane people got over it.

The fallout from Rona is worse than 9/11. The economy definitely took a hit shortly after the building did but most people carried on working as usual and the job loss and small business closings weren't as dramatic

These poor mentally traumatized 21 year olds, having to sit inside and watch Netflix and do the same lazy shit they do at college

Animal Crossing is 9/11 but worse.

Hey, now, maybe Tom Nook used to be a bastard, but he's really worked hard and cleaned himself up lately.

i gotta admit the public reaction to all this is starting to seem a lot like 9/11 in terms of its thorough and all-permeating effect, and i for sure was around and an adult for that.

Forcing normal people to become neets will have some interesting consequences.

Go on.

No.

but i'm so interested

I mean, it's pretty simple, forcing people to become neets will destroy some peoples' lives after they try to return to normalcy and fail, same shit with closing kindergartens and schools and not allowing kids to socialise which is hella important at that age.

Normal people's minds are starting to crack in substantial ways, meanwhile NEETs have had years of practice and remain unscathed.

When this is all over, and the brain-fried normies stumble out of their homes, forever changed, forever broken, it shall be a new world that they bear witness to.

Blessed are the NEETs, for they shall inherit the earth.

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The comparison to 9/11 is unwarranted and in inaccurate in most cases, this is going to be one of those events that the world will never be the same again after.

Exactly how it will be different, is not something I'm going to speculate on past the imminent return of the dinosaurs 🦖

Cdace ist that you?

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Tbf 9/11 wasn't really a big thing. Ameripoors are just pussies

Cohpe more pajeet

Struck a nerve did I? Literally more people die of flu every year than died in 9/11. Imagine being that fragile of a nation

according to reddit 11/9 was way worse

11/9 was an inside job too

11/9 made me realize im not nearly as pathetic as i thought i was

Yep. Don’t you know if you’re even slightly inconvenienced, you’re enduring trauma. And showing up to work when there’s even the slightest risk of something bad happening is heroic.

Which is why we’re pretty much done as a people. Life is inconvenient on the best of days, and nobody is ever at 0% risk of dying. Yet here we are, with people being called heroes for stocking shelves.

i guess those guys who died defending Stalingrad were like, super-mega-cosmic-herald-of-Galactus gigaheroes.

Yeah, those por grmans. 😭😭😭

The turmoil they face sitting home all day is driving them to cheat!

I’d rather go through another 9/11 than this shit, for both selfish and altruistic reasons, and the numbers back me up.

Reminds me of this

What's with m*llenials using world events to justify everything? Are you really that mentally weak?

These are zoomers old man.

bruh that professor is already a jannie he mods a reddit with 18m subs

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No way this guy is clean. It could fire back 👏

Some t*rd is going to dig through his profile and find a comment calling pregnant whamen “beautiful human submarines” like they did with Ken Bone

A modest proposal: doxx every Redditor simultaneously (with the chadmins’ approval of course, please don’t violate the sitewide rules!). I’m willing to bet that very, very few people would have any room taking the moral highground over silly shit anymore.

KaaraRaven should make him a furry porn mod.

>Be me, planning for college and shitposting on the same reddit acc

hmm, you make an excellent point.

Based prof laying the smackdown on calclets

The professor even said they had open note, open book and could take a lot of fucking time.

In their own home.

With internet.

These kids deserve their failures and I don't want to hear about their anxieties or "mental state" from staying cooped up smoking weed and Netflix all day. Grow up.

Oh my god. I take back what I said in another comment about not expecting cheating being naïve. If you cheated despite being given permission to do everything that would normally be classified as cheating, then you’re truly hopeless.

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Maybe they just didn’t give a shit about the class? That’s a perfectly acceptable viewpoint to have. The amount of money we pay to go to school, we should be able to do anything we want

lol, imagine paying out the ass for an education just to throw it, and countless hours of your own time, away because you're lazy. You should switch to a grievance study major and become an activist so you can throw the rest of your life away pointlessly too.

The value of a college degree is not actually what you learn, but the opportunities that diploma grants to you

The opportunity is granted based on an employer's impression of you based on it. If a Rutgers degree is synonymous with cheating your way through then it is a counter signal.

the professor is trying to preserve the value of those degrees that people are paying so much money and working so hard for. if the degree becomes solely an indicator of monies paid, and no longer an indicator of intelligence, focus, ambition, and work ethic, then it will not have much value

Most of my friends and myself used Chegg for homework in college every once in a while, but none of us were stupid or desperate enough to literally post the fucking exam to Chegg and try to get people to do it for us.

That’s a next level of fucking stupid.

126 people were this stupid. How big was the class?

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Bruh it's even worse than that, it's fucking calculus 1.

These kids would have a mental fucking breakdown in calc 2 if they have to cheat to make it through the first one

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If you fail an open notes Calc 1 test there's no hope for you just go straight to flipping burgers.

He also admitted the question was literally impossible so eh, fuck him lmao.

What question?

The one he made impossible, then leaked the "answer" to online, so he could catch his students cheating.

and he says you get full credit for trying it

If you're thrown a b8 question, don't take the b8.

Even better, don't ask fucking chegg about it.

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Lmao, you really stupid enough to think full credit after the fact makes up for turning your test into an a*tistic mind game because you're assmad that your class is meaningless to the lives of 99% of people who take it?

one question is an a|_|tistic mind game to you

You just admitted you're an absolute moron that can't handle elementary math functions. Good job.

It was literally an impossible problem, you illiterate dipshit.

Calculus tests are usually like, 6-10 problems cause that shit takes a while. So that's like 10-15% of your grade on the line that everyone is just supposed to accept that they failed cause the prof you're dickriding felt like being an asshole.

In conclusion, fuck you, pig.

It was literally an impossible problem, you illiterate dipshit.

I know more than you.

Calculus tests are usually like, 6-10 problems cause that shit takes a while. So that's like 10-15% of your grade on the line that everyone is just supposed to accept that they failed cause the prof you're dickriding felt like being an asshole.

And if you pay attention in calc you'd know it's a shitty problem and just do your best or write "non answer", or even better, ask your teacher about it.

I ran into this shit plenty in college, it's not that fucking difficult to deal with. Stop being a baby.

Shit like this exists in tests, surveys, etc. to throw out submissions where the takers are not paying attention and just filling in garbage data, or in this case, cheating.

In conclusion, fuck you, pig.

Holy fuck, not only are you stupid, but you're buttmad as hell.

It was literally an impossible problem, you illiterate dipshit.

I know more than you.

Calculus tests are usually like, 6-10 problems cause that shit takes a while. So that's like 10-15% of your grade on the line that everyone is just supposed to accept that they failed cause the prof you're dickriding felt like being an asshole.

And if you pay attention in calc you'd know it's a shitty problem and just do your best or write "non answer", or even better, ask your teacher about it.

I ran into this shit plenty in college, it's not that fucking difficult to deal with. Stop being a baby.

Shit like this exists in tests, surveys, etc. to throw out submissions where the takers are not paying attention and just filling in garbage data, or in this case, cheating.

In conclusion, fuck you, pig.

Holy fuck, not only are you stupid, but you're buttmad as hell.

It was literally an impossible problem, you illiterate dipshit.

I know more than you.

Calculus tests are usually like, 6-10 problems cause that shit takes a while. So that's like 10-15% of your grade on the line that everyone is just supposed to accept that they failed cause the prof you're dickriding felt like being an asshole.

And if you pay attention in calc you'd know it's a shitty problem and just do your best or write "non answer", or even better, ask your teacher about it.

I ran into this shit plenty in college, it's not that fucking difficult to deal with. Stop being a baby.

Shit like this exists in tests, surveys, etc. to throw out submissions where the takers are not paying attention and just filling in garbage data, or in this case, cheating.

In conclusion, fuck you, pig.

Holy fuck, not only are you stupid, but you're buttmad as hell.

Whatever you say you douchebaggy hall monitor.

Most students taking this test were born after 9/11

Nah chief you’re wrong on that one. None of them remember 9/11 but the earliest college students would be born somewhere from mid 2000 - mid 2001 for the most part

I mean some are, but probably not most. Next year, most freshman will be

My ex went to Rutgers. She cheated on me. Must just be a theme for that school 😂

Lmao buttgers

Wow I bet it was Sam Hyde that stole your girl

Best and most literal use of “it’s over” I’ve seen in years.

Editärd: Lmao what is up with this school?

People think just cause he plays video games and goes on Reddit that he's "cool and, like us" but in reality he's just a math professor who believes that every should be able to do math because he happens to be gifted at it. His famous post roasting that kid he was applauded for but in reality it was a kid really struggling with a tough clas trying to vent and get some help on a subreddit for students. I really don't understand why Rutgers allows him to continue to post stuff like this. And i don't get why he thinks its ok to be rude just because some 19 year old engineering students will give him virtual thumbs up.

We call em "sl*t"-gers for a reason I guess.

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Wtf is this

Shit, you got a good lawyer? 😬

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You can’t just say the nword

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Jeeeeeesus

Lol

Imagine you're in college and still believe "they're just naturally gifted" is an excuse for you to only study 30 minutes a week than bitch when you fail calculus.

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∫e100%BASED dBASED

e100%BASED/100%

I expect better from my calculus shitposts

100% is just 1 dummy

Imagine getting into STEM at Rutger's and feeling the need to cheat IN CALCULUS 1 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Private universities are degree mills LARPing as elite institutions.

In the Rutgers subreddit they seemed to think the cheaters are in Business program, as this calc class is their final math requirement.

So it was business calc? I'm so bad at math I only got a 2 on the AP calc test but still aced business calc without ever showing up to class.

Rutgers does not have business calc. Calc 135 is for business/economics majors as well as premed students and other random majors that require calc. The material isn’t bad but the exams are usual made to be difficult. Calc 151 is for engineering, physics, and math majors and has generally the same material but exams are made even harder.

Business isn’t a real degree.

Good thing I'm a marketing major 😎

Would make sense. The regular Calc 1 class at my college was MATH 101 or something like that. They keep referring to MATH 135, so I’d assume it’s some special Calc class.

Private universities are degree mills

Rutgers is public. It just sounds private (cf. Purdue).

Or Auburn

How about we Purdon't

Most schools are like this. If you can get a loan, you’ll get a degree. If you read the book, you’ll be an honors student.

Meanwhile I went to a school employers actually know and got through Calc 1-3 because our prof had a stroke and the replacement had no idea how to hide the answers on the online exams for 3 semesters.

🤷🏾‍♂️

I just took calc in high school pepega

This is just going to lead to students using VPNs or public wifi to mask their identity, pretty trivial shit to get around. I'm not sure why students wouldn't have the forethought of knowing that what they are doing on their school's ISP is being tracked regularly.

The professor and TAs uploaded incorrect answers to Chegg. So 126 students just blindly copied down answers that were most likely blatantly wrong.

https://twitter.com/GapToothGinny/status/1250869082770923521

Ah shit from reading that thread I gathered that Chegg was giving out IP addressees to the school. Pretty based for the professor and TAs to do something like that.

Bonus twitter bullshit. Sorry hun, can't handle 100 level math maybe it's time to reconsider college, and that makeup is awful.

exams were literally open book

With extended time for everyone and accommodations for anyone who has either had it themselves or has relatives who have it.

Imagine it being literally open book, knowing 126 cheated on an intro Calc course, and still posting this:

I'm really curious as to how you can justify this decision. Imagine going out of your way to ruin 126 kid’s lives because they looked up a fucking calc problem while they were in the middle of enduring the most emotionally and mentally traumatizing time since 9/11? You're a piece of shit. I'm not in Calc 135 and I've never used Chegg, but I'm truly astounded by your utter lack of empathy given the circumstances. Get over yourself.

Only to have the prof reply:

lol

Unfathomably based.

Nigga that isn't even the same university, the Twitter thread is about a class at Berkeley.

Ip address don't give shit unless the ISP was working with them too, which they most likely weren't.

A teacher I had claimed to have done something similar to a student who was copying answers from someone on tests. Told the person getting copied they would get an A on the test if they answered every question wrong (I'm sure he knew they were like a straight A student anyways so it didn't matter) and sure enough the person next to them copied every answer wrong on the test and was transferred to a different class (it was high school so it's a lot harder to expel someone for cheating).

That’s a chemistry professor from Berkeley, not a math professor from Rutgers

Bold of you to assume that the ch*ds and Stacey's taking 100 level math courses know wtf a VPN is or how to mask their identities online. The internet is nothing more than insta and hookup apps dum dum

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The kids who are capable of thinking that far ahead are probably also capable of just figuring out the fucking calc 1 problems themselves.

Love or hate the prof, he's good for dramacoin. Good find OP.

Wait til the professors find out about all the international students cheating on WeChat.

Literally everybody knows about this but doing something about it dries up literal millions of dollars and has no effect on America

Chung wants to have a fancy degree so his dad can give him a factory in china who gives a shit

People are mad because Chinese students in greater and greater numbers are getting degrees any going back to China. Like in the past we'd get Chinese students and they wouldn't in their wildest dreams go back to China, they could make way more money in America and have a way higher quality of life. They'd just poor their Asian autist skills into America. Now China is wealthy enough that in a lot of circumstances it makes more sense just to go back to China.

Like in the past China had to rely on expatriate labor, which is incredibly expensive. Now Chinese prefer western educated Chinese who come back to China. They can match western salaries for educated labor and save a lot of money on a fat expat package for a westerner. And in some Chinese cities already things are nearly at a western standard of living, if you have money, like Shenzen.

This also eliminates one of the few real sinks to claw back china's foreign reserve, expats cashing in their Yuan for Dollars at the Chinese central bank and returning to America.

This also eliminates one of the few real sinks to claw back china's foreign reserve, expats cashing in their Yuan for Dollars at the Chinese central bank and returning to America.

Wow I think this is the most mentally deficient thing I'll read this month. Holy shit ahahahaha

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What is a remittance?

It is difficult to convert from Yuan to dollar but nobody would take expat work if it were impossible. Where do you think those conversions come from? Ultimately they have to be fulfilled by the Chinese central bank, from their forex reserves.

China doesn't want this to happen, their economic strategy requires large forex reserves. This is why they make it difficult, they do not want to fulfill currency conversion requests.

If what I am saying is still ret4rded just tell me. But like remittances back to your country from your citizens working in another country with hard currency are a source of forex reserves for countries with with garbage currency, it makes sense that having to rely on labor from a country with a hard currency would be a drain on forex reserves because that labor will always eventually wind up sending remittances back home.

This is not something America has to worry about because America essentially lives in another universe in a monetary sense due to the inherent value of the dollar, but poorer countries with export centric economies have to pull this weird stuff all the time.

You deleted your other comment but since I already longposted I'll just repeat what I replied to it and edit an answer to your new comment:

What? Yeah sure the few dollars china "saves" with less expats going away is... I guess good? It's just that it's hilariously absurd to think that those few let's say billions even matter at that scale. Yeah the renminbi is more globally accepted than it was 2 decades ago, but for most of global transactions they still need the dollar so those way, way more relevant to their foreign currency reserves than a few yellow fevered whitoids taking back 50k$ USD home.

Yes, china still has a positive balance overall because more dollars go in than they go out, but since they still have to use foreign currencies to trade, you get situations like now when China has to inject massive amounts of USD in their economy to keep it afloat and keep trade going. That goes to show how irrelevant individual forex withdrawals are in comparison even for an export focused economy and how mentally challenged it is to claim that it's one of their main "forex sink". Amazing how you say I don't understand macroeconomics when you literally have to ignore the entire economy to make a claim like yours.

And the worst part is that those foreign workers probably first converted dollars into yuan anyways so it doesn't matter, but let's not even get into that lmfao

The foreign workers in China are paid in Yuan, what do you mean they first converted dollars into Yuan?

By far China's primary source of dollars is just exporting crap to America and bullying their companies into exchanging the dollars they received for Yuan at below market rates.

Obviously that dwarfs any drain from expatriate workers. Especially considering they only probably have half a million workers. However they still don't particularly like the situation and would prefer native workers. Also these expats have tended to be very well paid, like multiple six figure sums to convince these people to fly out to China and with there.

I deleted my comment because I edited out the final bit about you being an idiot. And I replaced it with something calling myself r4tarded and it triggered the automod to delete my comment.

Anyway I'm Adderall right now brother, the only thing I know about monetary exchanges is stuff I've studied to prove how the IMF and final financial system is evil and robbing the global south, because I am a Maoist third worldist. Join the revolution comrade. The more I read about the international financial system the less I understand.

I am a Maoist third worldist

The more I read about the international financial system the less I understand

Makes sense.

The Chinese are the worst cheaters. I should say rich Asians are the cheaters.

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What’s wechat? How do they cheat with it?

Sino group messaging app. They cheat by spreading solutions during exams.

Which campus is this?

This sub is what happens when minimally educated unintelligent people join together to find common ground and project their own self loathing to the rest of the world. There has never been anything clever that I have ever seen from this sub. I will continue to look for humor but I am just starting to think that loss and anger plus unemployment equals humor

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honestly just assuming based off how confident dr G is. I didn’t copy the answer from the problems though, I had done them myself and checked with the chegg answers. I had to change some things around but it was 85% all my work which is why I feel shitty about it cus I had no reason to do it I just wanted an A for a good gpa

❌ to doubt

"I wasn't cheating. I just checked my work against the answer code and changed the ones I got wrong!"

Even assuming that person is being 100% truthful, how do they not "get" that this is unfair to everyone else taking the test?

Why are they openly admitting it in a sub that their professor frequents?

If you do two really dumb things in quick succession they might cancel out

85% so only 15% cheating.

I don't get how fucking college profs of all people get so righteous over what is basically just knowledge profiteering, esp when it's shit from a giant textbook manufacturer. How does it possibly benefit humanity to have the ability to check your work restricted to a select set of people.

Love listening to this professor completely dodge the question of why people in unrelated fields have to take this bs

I'm in med school now and looking back college is such a fucking scam, "education" my ass

It really is. If you're bored at all during this quarentine I took an economics of education class that had the textbook "The Case Against Education: Why the Education System is a waste of Time and Money"

It's unbelievably based and I probably listened to it 3 times on audible throughout the course, but it's a solid read to make academics seethe pointing out the research.

That book gets me ridiculously hard. I'm still mad more than 10 years later how much time school at every level makes you spend on worthless nonsense for the sake of stratifying rather than teaching.

This professor really had to cause a big stink and destroy people's - actually these are pretty much children not even people - entire careers because... why, exactly? Like I'd understand doing this on the first exam followed by a meeting with him to establish that cheating will absolutely not be tolerated, but to jump to "destroy your entire degree" over some math problems is fucked.

Yeah, cheating is bad, but... dude it's an online class of shit that has nothing to do with real life what the fuck were you expecting. Just rubber stamp these business majors so they can get back to pounding shots

Just rubber stamp these business majors so they can get back to pounding shots

Nail on the head. Cheers

Nah, fuck em. All the rest of us did okay slogging through this system, if they were to stupid or lazy to study or find a different way to cheat then they deserve to have their career prospects fucked up by this.

I could not care less if 200 business majors graduate without knowing the limit definition of a derivative. People are upset though so that's the redeeming drama here.

catually these are pretty much children not even people - entire careers because... why, exactly?

Why do we need more business majors running around again?

In an ideal world business majors would not exist, but in a world where I got punished to the full extent of the law like these kids for 1% of the shit I did in high school and college I'd be getting bussied in jail tbh

Just let them go and be business majors who gives a shit about calc lol

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Better for drama that way.

High school is taught at an absolutely glacial pace unless you’re in the AP classes. I bet about zero actual education is missed because of a semester lost to Corona-Chan.

He may have went for the most based option because profs often despise large outside majors who have to take their class and write their curriculum.

It's like one class, just retake it. You won't die with a slightly lower GPA.

Failure due to academic integrity violations is a permanent mark on the transcript. Retaking it might pad the lower GPA, but marks for cheating hurts acceptance for graduate school and jobs that request transcripts.

I think in most schools a first offense doesn't show up on your transcript, but idk for sure because i'm not a cheating r-slur

This pandemic will lead to a bunch of colleges/universities going under or folding and it will expose the scam of education, not just higher education

Most teachers are unnecessary and most administrators are as well

With tech these days you can teach a lot of people things for not that much money

You just don't need so many teachers and therefore the cost of education should go down

This should be a good thing because education is one of the biggest expenses people face these days along with healthcare and housing

Yeah but people are gonna ask why Tyrone isn't as good as Chung at math and the answer is that we have to fund education more because this is 1000% a conversation america isn't ready to have

need mo money fo dem polygramz

Tyrone is getting WAY more money than Chung. Nobody spends more money per student than the Baltimore and Detroit school districts.

Average nationwide is 12k per student, Baltimore spends 15k per student.

NYC spends way more than that at 25k per student. Take your culture war garbage elsewhere, ruralcels are so pathetic. Everything in the city is more expensive, just the real estate in Baltimore compared to Bubbas farm eats up a lot of money.

Comrade Watermark hit the nail on the head right there. All you have to do is Google costs of living and you'll see the predominantly rural states like Iowa, Ohio and Arizona are way cheaper to live in than Minnesota, New York or California.

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Race science is fake news

It's not necessarily that. Asian parents often send their kids to math camp and beat their kids when they fail math classes.

The department of education should promote beatings.

You don't have to tell me. The book goes into detail about all levels of education being a waste, not just college.

The issue is employers don't actually care about what you learn, but the credential of a degree.

The issue is employers don't actually care about what you learn, but the credential of a degree.

Exactly. Interviewed for several internships before I graduated and I wanted this one internship in particular. Went in, the interviewer was also the owner, and he asked me “so what did you learn at XYZ University?” And I rambled on about what I had been learning in my major courses. He stopped me and said, “I understand what you majored in, but what did you learn?”

To be honest, couldn’t answer that question at the time, and probably still can’t to this day. I do use that question when I interview people and it works on them like it worked on me

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They never give a single flying flip about your degree again after your first job.

Quite hard to get a second job without a first job chief.

Imagine trusting economists. It's like the most compromised profession there is, billionaires flood that field granting every right wingers grant requests to give them a leg up on the competitive and give a false sense of academic credibility to economic policies that give billionaires money. All of this anti university and crazy campus sjw stuff is garbage, special interests fund that because they want more control over universities and more research published that favors their interests.

You're right, what we need is more useless education to drown out the special interests.

Yeah, more underwater intersectional basket weaving degrees please

If you can't pass Calc 1, a class I can teach entirely to a mongoloid in thirty minutes, the only career you should have is being a literal jannie.

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Who is this strongestpotions???

Autojannie has BTFO him 6 times lmao

Autojannie has BTFO him 6 times lmao

This is what happens when you can't do calculus.

I only ever got back a final like twice, profs make such a big stink about this integrity stuff that you wonder if they even care about the subjects at all.

Also I love how at no point is it ever like why do 126 students have the inability to pass an entry level math class, it's just "punish those lazies". I mean I had no problems because I'm not r-slurred but it's pretty clear that if you're just going along with the public school curriculum that calc 1 is gonna slam u hard

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The professors arent paid to teach anymore. They are paid to make sure nobody is cheating off their pearson tests, which is like 50% of college at this point. They're basically professional jannies.

If you can’t pass calc 1, have you tried not being born a brainlet?

Why should he give a fuck about someone whining they have to take a 100 level Calc course

Imagine being so insecure about your place in society you feel the need to flex on a 19 year old who doesn't care about and will never need to know your autism number nonsense

The kids should get over it but they're completely right in thinking calc is bullshit

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On the one hand, completely based and absolutely hilarious that he caught cheaters.

On the other hand, I could count on maybe two hands the amount of times I’ve actually solved a problem at my job without looking up some piece of it on google, and I work in AI/ML.

Also in a similar boat as you, majored in something completely unrelated to Computer Science, took minimal math classes, was not even in the AI/ML field when I graduated but migrated to it a couple years after graduation.

Software development is all about being interested in the subject and enjoying building things. The interest will keep you practicing and after some time you become good at it. You then become employed and learn how to do things right from old timers. That was the way I learned.

Comp Sci classes in college are nothing like real-world development.

Love listening to this professor completely dodge the question of why people in unrelated fields have to take this bs

It was explained to me, and I totally agree, that calculus teaches important problem solving skills and builds confidence in your ability to figure out anything you are faced with. As my Calc 1 professor said "It doesn't matter if you never specifically use calculus, the skills you learn will apply to problem solving in any area of life. Even if you decide to be a criminal after college you will be a much better criminal because you will be able to plan and problem solve better".

I majored in computer science so I had four different calculus classes, plus several other classes that used calculus, I have never actually used calculus in ten years of software engineering. But I have used the principals I learned every day. To this day when I have a hard problem to solve I think back to some of the calculus or physics problems that I had on tests, some that would take a page or more of equations just to set up, and the fact that I solved them by breaking them down to their smallest component parts and other problem solving techniques. But I can assure you I have never needed to solve actual calculus problems in my work life.

If you only want to learn specific things that will directly apply to what you do for a living you want a trade school, not a university.

It really is in a lot of ways, but it opens doors. I never needed a college degree but I did find that some companies asked for one so I got one just to check off that box. Most hiring managers don't care, but in software development it's still considered a good thing to have and will give you a bit of a leg up on the competition in companies where they have 100s of resumes sent to them every day and they just filter out non-grads to make it easier.

I abstain from commenting on whether Math 135 really is necessary for some majors, such as exercise science.

he's not dodging it, he just doesn't want to get blasted by the administration when he tells the truth, but kindergarten level esoteric reading makes it clear

Also in med school. Similar thoughts, but overall I’m cool with it. our system is dumb for undergrads but it paves the way for American universities to be number one in the world (seriously look it up, America makes up like half of the top 500 unis, all of Europe combined doesn’t come close lol).

I'm in med school now and looking back college is such a fucking scam

You're going to miss it once you figure out how big of a scam the AMA is. That cartel owns the rest of your life.

If you can't do Calc 1 you're a fucking moron who shouldn't be in professional school. Thousands of high schoolers take that shit.

Seethe lmfao

My man be mentally handicapped.

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I'm a fucking genius you insect, I took calc fucking 1000 with ease. I just don't get how a person who has probably spent 20 plus years working on an esoteric subject can really think it matters if a bunch of kids "defile" calc 1 so that they can try to get their wages up 40 percent

Imagine hating drama so much you try to fool me with your faux outrage. We both know you don't care.

Yes care is definitely a strong word

Kids retaking courses end up having to pay more, duh. It's not Calculus.

>"fucking genius"
>spends his time posting on /r/drama

🤔

It’s over for STEMcels.

As long as the future New England Patriots players who are currently in lacross scholarships aren't affected

if you cant even cheat properly billy doesnt want you

This guy is based and clearly takes his job seriously, but I could do without the dramatics:

you are bringing shame to this great university

Okay, Rutgers is totally adequate. But imagine being a Colonial College in the Northeast and not only not being invited to join the Ivy League, but becoming a state school. A state school in New Jersey, where the legislature arbitrarily steals entire departments from you and sets them up as universities in their own right 😝😝😝😆😆😆

These cheaters have not only deeply insulted and hurt and disappointed and disturbed me

Come on. He’s right to be angry, and good on him for taking his job seriously enough to enforce the rules, but anyone could have seen this coming. It’s a bit surprising that the students were such idiots about how they chose to cheat, but the fact that cheating happened on a massive scale should surprise nobody.

My school has made every class (that wasn’t already Pass/Fail) Pass/Fail, they’ve suspended the “hidden ranking” system (where they secretly track who passes by the highest margin), and no grades this semester will count towards Alpha Omega Alpha. The admins have all but said that this is because of academic integrity. Only a gunner-ass bitch cares about AOA, but there’s always someone who’s just gotta get those three letters and will fuck their classmates over to get there. Suspending that bullshit was the right thing to do, and honestly I hope we don’t bring AOA back.

P/F should be universal right now. Every exam grade is currently suspect. If every school temporarily went P/F, everyone who graduates over the next four years would be in the same boat and employers/grad schools would evaluate you accordingly. At worst, premeds would have to retake orgo. Besides, if you go into the workforce it’s literally only your first employer who’s gonna ask for your transcripts.

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Tbh college is total bullshit and destroying kid's careers because they can't do calculus is fucked

yea but its funny so who cares

This is the correct take

Goddamn, you are mad all over this thread and it's because you are certifiably regarded lol

I have strong opinions on /r/drama it is true

Seriousposters 😒

Autojannie has given you 7 F's for cheating and copying off of other serious posters 😠😠😠

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What does it have to do with li*eral arts?

The people cheating are to a significant degree l*beral arts people obligated to take 1 calc class for their meme major

I looked a bit through the comments of this drama prof but he said it was a stem prerequisite.

Econ and business are indeed meme majors, yes.

Apparently, the professor is known for its difficult exams

Can't believe he got applauded for that post considering it was just a student venting about a hard time

Considering the student doxxed himself and insulted the professor the student should be glad that he only gets teared a new one on reddit.

Imagine getting bullied by your entry level calc prof on Reddit though. This guy is based

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On one hand, there's a strong indication that many of these students are r-slurs, but on the other, the professor is a literal r*dditor so he might be kind of an f-slur.

wow, this person SHOULD NOT be teaching

The cheaters were all Business majors if what I'm hearing is correct

That's just Reddit reeee’ing, they hate (((business majors)))

Imagine getting caught cheating in a 100 level course

My thoughts exactly LMFAO.

uhhh like what if I'm never gonna use calculus in my field? It's pretty fair that I should get to cheat cause it's stupid and I don't need it

STFU gender studies

The jump in analytical problem solving skills developed by doing calculus isn't worth it

Smh people do be like that

Pretty sure gender studies majors don't have to take calculus fam. Most likely they're fields that need some math but don't use anything more than basic calculus from the calculus series. I checked the class code and that class is primarily for biology, econ, and businesscels.

the fucking chappelles show reference by the prof on fucking reddit is the elbow off the top rope LMAO

lmao the test was open note. They could have just used wolfram alpha. These dumbasses are the best evidence yet that there are too many people in college.

I hope you read this response. I’m a senior astrophysics and mathematics double major at Rutgers university. Obviously since I’ve made it this far I’m not fucking stupid or anything. I’ll pose you a question, why the fuck does anyone besides a STEM major need to know Calculus 1?

Doubt it. Every science major knows that non-STEM people dont have to take calculus.

Rutgers has calc requirement for business majors, very strange but they do.

Yes i did forget about Business Calc,because they need to understand how derivatives works. And to understand mathematical modeling of financial markets lot more calculus is required.

Wow Rutgers is really as bad as people say.

I’m a senior astrophysics and mathematics double major at Rutgers university

you may have a. aneurysm reading this, but a math major who does well in their classes (especially exams) Cheggs homeworks. Sometimes you don’t have enough time to do all your homework and Chegg provide easy solutions. You ever wondered what Physics students who take junior year Thermal Physics (I took it my freshman year so especially) do? They learn through the solutions manual because that’s the ONLY thing you can do.

This kid just admitted to being a serial cheater, and how many senior astrophysics + math majors are there that took Thermal Physics freshman year?

OP also said in another cheating thread, "it will never happen again", this was 5 months ago.

Unbelievably based prof. ngl this is the best drama ive ever read.

I was considering going into academia long term until during the process of securing my masters degree, i had to deal with American university students on a day to day basis.

There’s a global pandemic going on, people and their families are facing unprecedented diversity.

Inadvertently based r*tard

Lol imagine using chegg when you have access to notes, videos, google, wolphram alpha, and some Indian on khan academy. Couldn’t be me.

I hope you read this response. I’m a senior astrophysics and mathematics double major at Rutgers university. Obviously since I’ve made it this far I’m not fucking stupid or anything.

I've worked in a science institute with a bunch of astrophysicists, they're dumb as shit in everything outside flying rocks in space.

135

Ha. I didn't start failing calc until 236

R

Just checked a related Twitter thread and found this:

why is it so hard for profs to understand that students are cheating so much rn because they are going through much more pressing issues that require more of their focus than studying for an exam.

The entitlement 😂😂

Rutgers is one of the few unbelievably based and drama coin generating universities. It can be compared to a pious Muslim and his many wives. The pious Muslim will beat his wives until they are in pain. If the wives complain and speak out about this pain, the pious Muslim will beat them with the power of Allah and hand deliver their souls to hell.

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Some of the disgruntled students have started a change petition to get the professor kicked off of Reddit

link link

harassing students online

The absolute state of studentcels

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How do you cheat on an open book test? truely the mind of a liberal arts rtrd is amazing.

Dirty, no-good CHEGGERS get SLAMMED by the long d*ck of the LAW.

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I cheated my way through calculus, I literally just inputted a cheat sheet into my TI-89. I did it for free though, at a community college with a band scholarship. Often in the process of creating the cheat sheet I did teach myself how to do it, however later in college I would get lazier and lazier and more dependent on the cheat sheet.

At university it wasn't really possible to cheat through most of the classes, the tests were too original compared to the study material so you actually had to understand what was going on. Plus the problems almost never required a calculator so it was very suspicious when you busted one out, I think I tried that once in a digital logic class and the TAs would practically burst into a run when I pulled it out to stand behind me and take a look at what tf I was doing with a calculator out. I never tried again. Honestly took me about a year to adjust to the actual study schedule at a serious university and my GPA suffered in that time.

One professor in particular didn't care about cheating and I remember basically just ignoring studying for that class because I could literally bust out all the answers for all the questions. He literally copied test questions straight from the book, and I had the TA study guide. I remember almost nothing from that class though and I regret taking him for it. I was like 20 and seriously needed a person who would enforce discipline to learn anything.

I've basically never used calculus while doing computer science so my cheating didn't matter much. It did mean that my brief attempt to go into astrophysics was more or less doomed though. Computer science is easy mode STEM.

At last someone aware that CS is complete bullshit.

Imagine needing 5 years to understand basic mathematical logic lmfao.

Here's the syllabus to the course in question: https://sites.math.rutgers.edu/~jg1314/135/syllabus/s20syllabus.pdf

damn the R U ready test is savage. thats hilarious. This seems to directly counter what the professor says tho. It clearly says in the syllabus that the exam is NOT open note, and you're not even allowed to have the fuckin pi circle and list of common derivatives.

kinda bs tbh

Based af.

That professor is so based it's unbelievable

how the fuck do you need to cheat at calc

some departments are actually notorious when it comes to cheating

Women's Studies

Insha'allah

This is why I use chegg and symbolab I’m unstoppable

They got caught because of chegg

If they were smart enough to cheat well they wouldn't have been caught. did idiots seriously not think to at least run chegg on a phone service or something less easily traceable?

This confirms my priors that math profs are 25% women who are really good at their job, 25% hippies, and 50% empathy lacking a*tists.

The absolute drama llama also posted this thread: https://www.removeddit.com/r/rutgers/comments/gb073q/dr_g_hate_megathread/

mod status when???

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Who the fuck has to cheat for Calc 1? It’s legit mostly algebra and by the time you reach the end you’re just barely learning integrals.

lol

Based.

"Why should I need to do math to complete a liberal arts degree."

Above the entrance to the Academy of Athens building Plato placed a sign:

NO ENTRANCE WITHOUT MATHEMATICS

Math teaches proceedure, how to show one's work and logical reasoning to arrive at conclusions. I'm sure you guise can work out where I'm going with this.

Testing

Testing

Testie

Imagine getting into Rutgers and then proceeding to be so stupid you cheat on an open note, open text, calculus 1 exam.

Calc 1 isn't even hard. Jesus. Pathetic.

What's hilarious is that this is not going to ruin anyone's lives as the school is most certainly going to look the other way because of the circumstances see as how all schools are currently run by SJWs

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Yo but why DO you have furry porn as the banner? Furries are whack

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Lol blow me you dumb fuck

Why is there furry porn on the banner

I'm surprised about how many people here seem happy that the cheaters got caught. It's unlikely that those same people never cheated.

Why do you guys use furry porn as a channel banner wtf

Honestly, these kids are just a drop in the bucket. The better cheaters pay private tutors who will take the test for them and won't sell them out like chegg did. This prof sounds like a total elitist.