Does anyone else think it's weird that Ahmaud Arbery sounds like armed robbery

1  2020-05-08 by mcbrd

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Statement from the DA:

There is a decent cell phone video of the entire shooting incident, also video of Arbery burglarizing a home immediately preceding the chase and confrontation.

Every single news story that riles up braindead center left normies turns out to be bullshit, without fail. Duke lacrosse, the Rolling Stones rape article, mattress girl, Bussie Smellit, Trayvon, Mike Brown, an endless list of hate crime hoaxes like the girl who pretended to get her hijab cut, smirking MAGA kid, clock boy. Will there ever be a point where these dumbfucks stop lapping up convenient media narratives? The dude burglarized their neighbor, they chased him with guns, he tried to wrestle a shotgun away from one of them, and he got shot in self defense. Big brain redditors were still saying Bussie got hate crimed even after the video came out, so I'm sure they will continue using this as an example of white supremacist AmeriKKKa for years to come. We should all be lucky enough to have hillbilly neighbors armed with burgleblasters.

Why tf would you chase down a nonviolent person on public property who may or may not have burgled a house, threaten him with a gun, then shoot him when he tries to predictably get away?

That's not self defense even in the most lenient interpretation. Holy shit. You have to actually witness a crime to do a citizens arrest, and you can't just up and kill someone during it.

Why tf would you chase down a nonviolent person on public property who may or may not have burgled a house, threaten him with a gun, then shoot him when he tries to predictably get away?

The people saying this shit are either flagrant racists or small pp gun nuts with vigilante fantasies. You bet your ass that if the victim was a white guy and the men who rolled up with shotguns were black then there'd be zero dispute that a murder had taken place.

If a white guy with a criminal record broke into a home, got chased by black locals who correctly assumed he was the perpetrator, and got shot after running at them and grabbing their gun, no one would defend his dumb ass. It wouldn't make national news in the first place because the media wouldn't be able to bait woke retards into clicking their articles.

If a white guy with a criminal record broke into a home

Wow it's so weird that the people who killed Arbery forgot to tell the 911 operator that they saw the guy break into a home! Seems like an important detail to omit when you're stalking him with a truck and shotguns šŸ¤”

got chased by black locals who correctly assumed he was the perpetrator

If you actually read my comment, nobody is claiming they witnessed it, snarkygaster, and you don't necessarily have to witness the crime to carry out a citizen's arrest in Georgia. It's crazy that you can't even concede that a video showing Ahmaud burgling a house beforehand is relevant to the situation. You pretend nothing has changed since everyone thought he was just out for a jog, before the DA said the shooters were 100% spot on in identifying him.

who correctly assumed he was the perpetrator

the perpetrator of what?

and you don't necessarily have to witness the crime to carry out a citizen's arrest in Georgia

Source?

It's crazy that you can't even concede that a video showing Ahmaud burgling a house beforehand is relevant to the situation.

the people who killed him apparently weren't aware of this if it is true, so how is it even relevant? they stalked him while he was not involved in any criminal wrongdoing under the pretense that there were break-ins that apparently aren't even on record aside from a gun getting stolen from an unlocked car.

before the DA said the shooters were 100% spot on in identifying him.

it seems like such an open-and-shut case then; I wonder why the state has charged the brave heroes with murder if it's okay to hunt down somebody who may have committed a property crime at some point...

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This is the "break-in"

The owner of a nearby home that's under construction, listed as a victim in the police report, said his surveillance system captured at least four short clips of a man who appeared to be Arbery "coming onto his property" on February 23.

damn that's a hardened criminal

and you don't necessarily have to witness the crime to carry out a citizen's arrest in Georgia

Source?

His desperate need for this to fit his narrative.

https://www.georgialegalaid.org/resource/rights-during-arrest

Citizen's Arrests

As a private citizen, you have no authority to arrest anyone with a warrant. Without a warrant, you may arrest anyone who commits a mis-demeanor or a felony in your presence or with your immediate knowledge. A citizen's arrest occurs when a citizen prevents a suspect from leaving a scene. Citizen's arrest most often happens in cases like shoplifting, when the store's manager detains the suspected offender. However, as the following example shows, the manager or employee cannot make such an arrest in every case.

InĀ Winn Dixie Stores Inc. v. Nichols, 205 Ga. App. 308, 422 S.E. 2d 209 (1992), a Winn Dixie customer complained to management that another customer stole her wallet.Ā The court held that the limited rights of merchants to detain or arrest a person reasonably believed to have committed a shoplifting offense do not authorize a merchant to detain or arrest individuals accused by store patrons of committing crimes against other patrons. To make the arrest, an employee would have had to actually see the criminal act committed. Therefore, it was ruled that management had no authority to arrest the alleged criminal.The court suggested that the only person who could have made the citizen's arrest was the robbed customer herself.

Believe it or not, I am not pretending I know the details of Georgia laws for no reason. I based that on this article:

Barnhill says the men were acting under Georgiaā€™s citizenā€™s arrest law, which allows a ā€œprivate personā€ to make an arrest ā€œif the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge.ā€

Which links to this page:

A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.

Did you even read what you wrote? Is this like a reverse troll where you act really dumb to make me look better or something?

A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge.

if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge.

if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge.

This isn't fun unless you at least try

Given the fact that "immediate knowledge" is an ambiguous phrase and the second part that you ignored says a reasonable suspicion is enough if a felony was committed, I interpreted this to mean you don't need to witness the crime in some cases. This particular DA from Georgia says it was a legal citizen's arrest, but who knows, maybe he's wrong.

The DA that recused himself from the case? The guy who's son worked with one of the accused? That guy?

So we've got the DA that recused from the case over a conflict of interest versus a GA court decision.

Sorry, multiple court decisions:

In the 2004 caseĀ Patel vs. State, a convenience store owner shot an intruder who broke into the store after the store owner told him to halt. The Georgia Supreme Court found that even though Viral Patel had attempted to stop an intruder, the measure of force used was disproportionate to the circumstance.

"The only force reasonable under the circumstances may be used to restrain the individual arrested," the state supreme court said in its ruling. "The use of unreasonable force could not have been part of a legitimate citizen's arrest.ā€

In the 2017 caseĀ Edwards vs. State,Ā a man chased someone whom he thought had burglarized his home. The homeowner attacked the man with a baseball bat. The court also found in that case that unnecessary force was used and it was not a legitimate citizen's arrest.

"Edwards' alleged assault of the individual with a baseball bat entailed the use of unreasonable force, and could not have been part of a legitimate citizen's arrest," the court ruled.

Okay I'm bored. You're boring. Just a retard wanna be capeshit hero. I'm going to go do something fun now. Have fun being really mad about stuff on the internet

I'm sorry I made you so mad bored you have to log off, honey. Have fun on discord with your programmer friends.

the second part that you ignored says a reasonable suspicion is enough if a felony was committed

What felony was committed?

I figured he was making shit up. it's amazing how quickly some """"people"""""""""" jump through hoops to justify behavior that's at home in a liveleak video from Brazil or Central Africa if you wrap it in an Amerilard narrative about defending your property or w/e

I don't get why him and everyone else circlejerking itt don't just admit that they're racist or identify with the killers' hero fantasy; it's not like being genuinely afraid of a guy who walked around someone else's unfinished home (something that like 90% of upper middle-class whites have done lmao) makes them look any better šŸ¤£

I mean, maybe the dude was a criminal, and these good ol boys were just trying to protect their neighborhood. Looks like Aubrey had a criminal record. But smoothbrains like our lolcow friend and the two yokels awaiting trail don't realize that letting every Billy Bob vigilante with a gun make a citizens arrest based on suspicion is going to repeatedly end in shitshows like this. They base their decisions on very simple ideas like, "just kill robbers problem solved" without ever spending a moment to think about the problems that could arise from the implementation of their solution.

I don't even think it's racism. Maybe they genuinely wanted to protect their neighborhood and the lolcow agrees that they should. They're just to retarded to know how to do it. It's sad really. They're wanna be capeshit heros, basically.

I don't even think it's racism. Maybe they genuinely wanted to protect their neighborhood and the lolcow agrees that they should. They're just to retarded to know how to do it. It's sad really. They're wanna be capeshit heros, basically.

It seems like pretty much all of them have the hero fantasy and out of that group there is a pretty strong percentage of racists among them.

I know a lot of these types and will never understand how they believe that shooting petty criminals is virile. They're usually incapable of confronting somebody without a weapon too; fat or withering, mentally ill, old, diabetic, chronic illness-afflicted, etc. ime the fantasy almost always involves going into a dangerous city and confronting gangbangers or stopping a Muslim terrorist attack so it's hard to say that it isn't at least wrapped up in some covert racism in some cases.

I ... will never understand how they believe that shooting petty criminals is virile. They're usually incapable of confronting somebody without a weapon

You've just answered your own question.

You think everyone who disagrees with you is a rightoid? That's very reddit of you.

When did I ever call you a rightoid? You're just proving my point here

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If I'm not a rightoid, why would it matter if you "got me to admit" that rightoids are morons? I have no problem admitting that, so your point makes zero sense.

Because it's funny and you're taking this very seriously? Is this a legitimate question? Do you even know where you are?

This story seems awfully short on facts. No one runs anyone down while filming it for simple burglary. Once the facts come out Iā€™m sure itā€™s going to be a much more serious accusations by the mayos, like attempted rape of a child etc.. I knew something was up when I heard this in the media and they failed to mention any details about the crime, essentially just declaring the man was lynched. I understand mayo womenā€™s gut reaction is to get woke, but snally ur smarter than this, bigly smarter!

No one runs anyone down while filming it for simple burglary

I take it you're not a liveleak fan

I'm sure that the killers' lawyers will make up some comforting scenario that doesn't match the objective, recorded facts and make you feel better about considering it self-defense, tho

No one jogs in timberlands carrying a hammer. Why was he 86 miles from home, and itā€™s clear at this point he had mental health issues. Iā€™m not saying something fucked didnā€™t happen, but before you get all Oprah on it, wait for the facts. Quit reacting the way (((they))) want you to imho

who gives a shit what his motivations were? if you need to respond to a guy who walks around an unfinished home or even steals some trinkets from an unfinished home with a truck, some backup, and some shotguns then you're either itching to kill some darkies or a gigantic fucking pussey who's using a shotgun as a surrogate for a dick

Imma say most people, even in Georgia, donā€™t immediately go 0 to 100 for stealing a random household item. I know this story is super sexy to woke folks with the current limited facts, but Iā€™m telling to wait till it develops a bit more before busting your sanctimonious load. If they just killed this dood for trying to steal something Iā€™ll be right there with you hun

Edit: ftr Iā€™m leaning in the favor of the black dude, but certain major things in that narrative donā€™t add up. Gonna wait till trial

No one runs anyone down while filming it for simple burglary

Well then this seems to have been the 1/10000 time that something like this would have happened because there's literally no evidence that the guy did anything but walk around an unfinished home and "possibly" steal a gun from an unlocked car like 5 months ago.

I don't understand why it is easy to accept that murderers exist but hard to accept that some people may try to find reasons to kill people so as to make themselves feel better and avoid consequences for their actions.

Think about if you saw a video of a group of men in Somalia or Brazil or PNG or whatever apprehending someone they saw walking on a piece of unoccupied land with a truck and shotguns because they thought he stole some plastic crap in some break-ins (that weren't even reported if they even happened). What would you think?

Iā€™m telling to wait till it develops a bit more before busting your sanctimonious load.

Unless tptb has footage of the guy pointing a gun at the killers or murdering someone or molesting children right before the act then it was completely unjustified. There's a reason why law exists, to prevent this sort of savagery

Ya I donā€™t disagree with the overall point, but I donā€™t like jumping on these things till trial. Remember Trayvon? Or what about the gentle giant mike brown? But then you have the real shit like Walter scott. Gotta wait till trial honey bunny ā˜ŗļø

The entire confrontation here was recorded; the killers couldn't even name something that the guy had done wrong beyond trespassing when they called 911

Ya idk Iā€™m just super weary of these things tbh. Some fishy details. Why the fuck didnā€™t they charge the guys till like this week. Still saying to wait till trial, but Iā€™m definitely leaning heavily to the side of the alleged victim

they failed to mention any details about the crime, essentially just declaring the man was lynched

This is the strangest thing. Like...why is no one even bothering to pretend there might be more? The guys are probably guilty of murder, honestly, but like...no one is even asking if there's anything more? Not at all?

Exactly, why would you not say this if you genuinely were performing citizen's arrest and even then....

You have to use reasonable force not chase an unarmed man with shotgun .

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does he have criminal record specifically for burglaries? A criminal record is very vague. You can have one for different crimes not necessarily burglary.

Why are nonpolice doing police work? That is silly to think you should play hero without having authority to command the compliance

Shoplifting and violating probation in 2018, bringing a gun to school in 2013. Rightoids would support the gun violation actually. It's every student's god given right to stand his ground against bullies, god bless.

Cool, but those are much different crimes than burglary.

Just because somebody brought a gun to school and violated parole doesn't mean they committed the burglary.

You may be a convicted pedo, but that doesn't mean you commited child prostitution.

Like i said, even if he did burglarize a home just before his shooting..., what justifies a bunch of vigilantes trapping him while rhey are armes?

If you don't think Fox News would jump on a story about a bunch of basketball Americans chasing down a mayo and shooting him when he fought back, you're more retarded than the people that believed Jussie's story.

Says the genius who thinks gun toting right wingers like burglars with criminal records as long as they're white šŸ¤­

He says in a thread featuring Q Anon

Yeah man, it's only the leftoids that are into outrage porn šŸ™„ Ollie North is literally a Fox News contributor. Are you really this retardedly partisan?

They love outrage porn but don't support criminals unless they're doing something like firebombing an abortion clinic or doing fent.

They love outrage porn but don't support criminals unless

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Yes both sides support criminal activity, just different types. Rightoids are cool with stuff like tax fraud but think you should be able to napalm perpetrators of property theft on sight. Take that radical centrist wisdom into account next time you're thinking about hypothetical Fox news responses while touching your hot cock, or maybe just let me touch it for you so we can avoid this pointless discussion entirely.

Rightoids are cool with stuff like tax fraud but think you should be able to napalm perpetrators of property theft on sight.

Except they didn't witness him committing a crime. Why do you hate due process?

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Or fighting an FBI siege on their pedophilia/cuckold cult headquarters.

As if anyone would care if some trailer park meth fiends got gunned down by some cool black dudes directly after a burglary lmao. I do agree that gunning people down for a crime you only suspect happened is absolutely nuts though. Although on the flipside of that I think property owners ought to be able to shoot thieves, fuck duty to retreat. And these specific dudes are just racist murderers.

How much of a pussey do you have to be to feel threatened by someone walking around an unfinished house to the point of cornering them with a pickup truck and pointing your shotguns in his face?

I agree tho, if he actually broke into an occupied home then the owner would be well within his rights to shoot him.

Seeing how people loved the mattress shooting. They just love stupid unarmed people attacking people with gun.

A white guy getting killed by two black guys wouldn't make the national news at all.

LMAO at you trying to pretend this moronic counterfactional is remotely realistic.

The mass media would rise up as one to denounce the white race and a mass protest movement would begin to defend the dumb nslur.

You are a child and an idiot.

Hey snally the only reason you're liked here is because you have no life and regurgitate old drama from obscure forums -- well did anyways. Now I know your hormones are all over the place because of the baby, but kindly refrain from sharing your thoughts because they're worthless and no one cares. Thank you and have a nice day.

i'm sorry that differing opinions upset you šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

try not to take it out on some inner-city youths

I think it's just annoying to hear the same basic base comment over and over. At least have an original take if you want to share your views. Women can't understand things like not allowing your families to get killed by thieves instead they hender men who will keep them safe while also trying to shackle them and instead prefer to say "dats raysus!". I saw that the Norwegian lawyer stopped posting and I hope you're next.

I think it's just annoying to hear the same basic base comment over and over. At least have an original take if you want to share your views

"unique/minority views deserve more visibility than consensus/majority opinions"

you're unironically operating under the premise of the progressive stack, nice job dingus

if you place so much value on 'original takes' then why are you so bootyblasted that a firm one-way circlejerk has been disrupted?

not allowing your families to get killed by thieves

It's so strange that the people who killed the guy forgot to mention to the 911 operator that they had seen a crime take place and were in fear of their lives šŸ¤”

progressive stack

The exact opposite idiot I'm saying I hate hearing that sort of stuff from people like you. Freudian slip?

Is it strange though? They had intense emotions running and one had just shot a guy after allegedly being assaulted. Can you tell me exactly what you were doing as you pumped out that baby snally? No? because it was an intense emotional affair. hmmm? handtochinemjoi

The exact opposite idiot I'm saying I hate hearing that sort of stuff from people like you. Freudian slip?

You're not being very articulate; I guess your brain is going into overdrive trying to explain why hunting an unarmed guy walking around an unfinished property is actually manly and virtuous. literally favela monkey behavior

They had intense emotions running and one had just shot a guy after allegedly being assaulted

Imagine being afraid for your family's life after seeing someone walk around some other guy's unfinished house šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£

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Based snally. You must become the new Ed, drive the rightoid menace before you Old Testament style

Only reasonable take in this entire thread.

he didn't try to get away lol he attacked the guy with the shotgun

You have to actually be posed a threat to pull a gun in the first place, smoothbrain. Otherwise anyone could claim "self defense" if the dude they attacked tried to fight back.

lol

i have a gun, i get charged and someone tries to grab my gun.

am I supposed to let them have it and shoot me?

nah, i'm entitled to turn them into a stain on the pavement.

You're leaving out the part where you charge them first.

Yes, don't charge them in the first place and provoke them into a fight if there was no need for one in the first place. CCW 101.

You can only get away with that if you're a burger cop, which is why I guess this happened with an ex-cop in the first place.

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He didn't burglarize before the shooting, he entered an open construction property and then left. Then shot later that day. This is not a burglary. Even then, what makes this justify shooting Arbery?

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.ajc.com/news/local/brunswick-attorney-released-the-video-arbery-shooting/JkpbvTuJt9wfl3tkcLTTvO/amp.html

I don't think it was necessarily a hate crime (unless further proven) but I do think these men acted out of stupid vigilantism.

What you fail to mention is the mcmichels has affiliations with the DA. There is conflict of interest which is why the DA is recused.

When he was in high school, Arbery was sentenced to five years probation as a first offender on charges of carrying a weapon on campus and several counts of obstructing a law enforcement officer. He was convicted of probation violation in 2018 after he was charged with shoplifting, court documents show.

This is claimed by DA but I don't think that justifies vigilantes shooting Arbery. Not to mention the crimes were not for burglary. But even if it was for burglary... really?

This is claimed by DA

Are you saying that the DA might be lying about his criminal record? I mean that would be r*tarded but I can't think of any other way to parse your words.

Oops, typo. I had a dumb train of thought

The DA stated this, but what I am saying is that regardless of this past criminal record, I don't see why it justified a group of vigilantes chasing after a suspect with a gun.

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The fact is that there hasn't been a trial and no one really knows what happened yet.

The arrest of the Mcmichaels were delayed by DAs who had associations with them. They were arrested after these DAs were recused. That is why Mcmichaels were arrested two months after and not immediately.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/05/08/da-blocked-cops-from-making-arrests-in-ahmaud-arbery-shooting/amp/

This was why it was a very good move to have these DAs recused due to conflict of interest. Keeping that in mind is important.

Legally, mcmichaels might be able to claim self defence. But i would run for my life if a bunch of men chased me with guns. I am under no obligation to stop for non police men and would be terrified if they kept tailing me.

Other than that it seems possible there is more to it and nobody knows until then.

This is why I haven't said a thing about this to anyone personally.

I want to see all the facts and evidence that comes up before I pass judgement.

The number of white Karens on Facebook posting about how a black man can't wear a hoodie or go for a jog without getting murdered by whitey is way too high.

Source?

I donā€™t think itā€™s as clear cut as CNN makes it, but it certainly looks like the Police and Prosecutors shat their pants on this, and that some racist mayos with guns chased down a dude who was probably just jogging.

Itā€™s crazy how the murderers forgot that they saw the burglary when the police were first contacted, thank god that DA remembered a better version of the story for them!

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Lol bl*ck people jogging thru your neighborhood are 99% of the time running from crimes

you ever seen a black dude legit jog?

heā€™s right. there are no black athletes

Ultramarathon runners from Kenya are really just the worldā€™s most elusive fugitives

There is this tall black guy in my neighborhood who runs probably a 5 min mile. I shamefully admit that when I was on one of my runs and saw him, I thought he was running from something/someone. šŸ˜‚ Then I realized he's some long legged running chad and he laps me twice and now I just wave.

When I first moved here, there was this black guy in a hoodie who looks like a Treyvon walking the neighborhood. When I first saw him, I looked behind me to make sure he wasn't about to jump me. He looks like he just robbed a liquor store. Then I realized he walks the path every damn day and wave at him too.

I don't do shit, I don't go outside

oh sweaty you're missing out. A good 30 min run makes the rest of your day feel amazing.

Had a black jogging buddy back in university and we'd always go running at like 1AM through the forest paths after getting high. Something about running at that time of night through the forest just felt incredible and primal.

There was a good amount of traffic on those paths too, because they were some of the main routes from the campus to the outer city and the nearby apartment complexes if you didn't have a car.

Whenever other students would see us running by all late (usually on their way home from a party) they'd get super sketched out. Some of them even straight up turned and ran from us lmao. Sometimes, when we were really high and wanted to fuck with people, we'd make sure he was a good bit ahead of me so the people on the paths would only see this giant black dude by himself barreling towards them after midnight. I remember hearing screams and shit when we'd do that.

God that shit was fun.

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this will be the next trayvon i guarantee it

I mean, you don't go jogging in your Timbs? https://i.imgur.com/PVp9Qd4.jpg

Only while jogging 12 miles from home.

Yeah, I've already seen this episode of America's Funniest Vigilante Shootings. They're actually trying them for murder, just like Zimzam. In Georgia, it's illegal to NOT form a vigilante squad and shoot a burglar, so I wonder how this will play out šŸ¤”

I forget where ZimZam killed Skittles boy, but I've learned Georgia is all crazy boomer Trumpsters so they will probably get community service and that's it.

wasn't that in FL?

oh yeah, that's right.

I'm personally waiting to see how this unfolds. But with every other bs hate crime hoax that has happened in the last 10+ years I wouldnt be surprised if that's what ends up happening or some new evidence surfaces after everyone has got their pitchforks stabbed into some rednecks.

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Ayo this ngga be running in timbz