I'm never taking my mask off again. I haven't felt this safe since before mommy threw away my security blanket

my friends and coworkers have donned a 'pervibial mask' of bussyphobia and hate towards me. ☹️

what to do reddit?

pervibial

It never began for dictionary-cels.

Spelling things however you want makes you a genius like Shakespeare.

I'm failing to detect any iambic pentameter within your comments

oo AAH oo AAH oo AAH oo AAH ee EEEK

some of them are pretty smexy

Do you think that people will care who you are now?

This but unironically. Feels good to obey the law and be safe from hobo germs

OP, please don’t wear a mask and never wash your hands

Take your hydroxychloroquine for all that seething

You gain sexual gratification from arguments?

lol ok incèl

When l’orange loses, will you follow your leader?

lol

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You can't possibly believe Joey Sharts has any chance at beating Glormph can you?

We can make a bet on it if you'd like.

Yes. RemindMe! Nov 7 2020

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I don't mod this sub. How about if Trümp loses, you have to post your full name with a photo of yourself holding up your username and the date it's taken proving it's you. If Bîdén loses then I'll have to do this.

That's too edgy. How about when the rapist loses, you delete your account. If Blormp loses I'll don't be same.

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Yes.

is there any other reason to argue on reddit?

Paging Dr. Pizza.

Well they aren’t getting it anywhere else....so yes

This looks like seething to you?

100% yes lmao

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Yes pls continue to rile up your fellow MDEfugees, its top tier content for the sub.

that sub has been dead for ages, why is it still the bogeyman?

I’m at half chub bud.

cringe

dilate

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rent free

I am unironically just marking time until I finally die, and I'm kind of disappointed that we didn't get an actual plague to either kill me or kill enough of the rest of you to make life interesting again. I plan on going to every bar that's open this weekend until I find a young blonde chick with low self-esteem and shitty taste in men. If I can't get corona virus I can always settle for whatever the trendy STD is these days.

One of the reasons I am unironically just waiting for the Grim Reaper to get off his dead ass is that I've already done everything I've ever wanted to do and far more than a few things I never wanted to do. I did my "kill a commie for mommy" bit in the 90s. I'm too old, fat, and out-of-shape to do any action-movie bullshit.

Rent a car

SMH mayos can't even figure out how to mass murder on their own, why did Yakub not give you functional brains?

I'm sure you'll be fine 😇

But when you kill your grandma don't come crying here 😇😇

Conservatism is a death cult.

actually, if youre under the age of 60, the mortality rate is 0.0006%. Its in the CDC report as well.

I see the odds you will kill someone don't matter to you?

Do you understand that losing a quarter of a percentile of our population at once would cripple the economy? Also the one percents add up you know? This math is confusing maybe you should just listen to the people smarter than you.

So why weren’t we requiring masks and shutting businesses down for the flu before all of this mass hysteria?

Because it's not as contagious or lethal? Yes apparently I was the only one here avoiding the flu before the pandemic. Only mass hysteria I've seen is pathetic people too afraid to put a mask on.

.75% of the US population dies every year and it doesn't matter since most of them are b*omer sm*ker ob*se l*eches

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Typical Redditor Pre-2020: Fucking booomers suck ass and vote for Drumpfts. They're bad and I hope they all die off soon.

Typical Redditor Post-Covid: If you try to go out and do things and live your life you want grandma to die, and that makes you a bad person.

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So when D*ddy decided to take coronavirus seriously for a couple months, he was actually wrong and was just duped by Deep State J*ws like (((Fauci))) and (((Birx)))? 🤔 That was pretty stupid of him.

Imagine getting c*cked by automod twice in your own thread.

Edit: oh god, he just kept letting it happen.

Lmao I was wondering if someone would say this. Everything that Däddycels hate about the government's response was done at Däddy's behest. Däddy could have fired Fauci at any moment if he thought Fauci was doing a bad job. Even the big stock market crash happened because Däddy made a whoopsie and said he was shutting down all trade with Europe.

Two months ago the DDF was convinced that the virus was a Chinese bioweapon or something, now they're saying it was a hoax all along. Pick one and stick with it, REEEEEtards.

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"Confirmed Covid deaths" includes people who died of the virus and also includes people who died from something else while they happened to have the virus.

"Presumed" deaths means they count untested people in the official counts for some reason

Oh, and the first official Johns Hopkins Covid data points were manually entered by a Chinese student using Twitter and his Chinese social media account:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/gglz2n/not_drama_wsj_today_how_a_johns_hopkins_professor/

Lmao they were using Chinese students to track the coronavirus while there was still an outbreak in China, why didn't they use sp*cs instead of people with a direct interest in the region hmmmmm. Literally this was just a side project of the two students at a time when common presumption was that this would be an epidemic confined to China, they made a dashboard for it, they didn't know that it would be the biggest thing since WWII lmao. "Manually entered official data", how the fuck else do you enter covid data besides manually, do you have a robot counting deaths out there somewhere lmao. Spit them in the face for trying to do something for your garbage country.

When are you going to start advocating for Chinese internment camps brother

Total mortality is way up though

A lot of sick people are avoiding hospitals altogether because they fear getting COVID. Including surgeries and other treatable conditions. I have a feeling that could account for an increase.

But I'm not dumb enough to be totally dismissive as OP. Especially for people living in dense cities.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/05/covid-19-death-toll-misleading-all-cause-mortality-excess-deaths-pandemic/

Sweden has avoided mandatory lockdown restrictions and, as of April 21, has reported 15,322 infections with 1,765 deaths, around 10 percent the number of cases and deaths in the U.K. and 2 percent of the U.S.'s

This is old data. Sweden has nearly the same number of per capita COVID cases and deaths as the UK despite having 1/10^th the population density and less international travel.

However the number of extra death correlates with the number of cases, not on how "safe" people feel:

https://i.redd.it/th4sc5sgzjw41.png

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/netherlands/

What are you trying to say exactly? People not going to hospitals out of fear of getting sick increases mortality rates... the only question is by how much.

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Are you under age 60? The average age of death by covid is currently in the mid 70’s. It’s higher than the average lifespan.

In 2018, there were 48,344 recorded suicides

So has the suicide rate gone up by 6 times? 🤔🤔🤔 Because that's what it would take to equal 100,000 coronavirus deaths in half a year.

The data also says overall deaths plummet in a recession due to lower travel and worker deaths, even when accounting for suicide upticks.

https://fortune.com/2019/01/25/economic-downturn-mortality-rates/

Tldr about a century of precedent

Throughout the Great Depression of the 1930s, death rates reached all-time lows. The same held true for the Great Recession where death rates dropped across Europe despite record unemployment. 

He didn't say that, he was talking about your inferrancr that lockdowns increase deaths when that really isn't the case.

I understand if you think covid is overblown, but no need to be full of shit about everything just to try to make a point

Lol its clear thats what he meant. I dont even judge people for questioning the lockdowns, youre just making an identity out of it which is silly

Yet you clearly can’t call economic crises good for public health.

Which is exactly what you’re doing.

This is the entirety of my post, where is that line?

The data also says overall deaths plummet in a recession due to lower travel and worker deaths, even when accounting for suicide upticks.

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You are just having an argument in your own head with all that strawman BS

That's also true

People tend to die when you devastate the economy

It’s actually way down. They calculate it by dividing hospital cases into hospital deaths and the cdc admits there have been enormous amounts of cases that went untreated, never visiting a hospital and had full recovery, so the real number of cases is much higher to divide into the actual deaths and therefore making the percentage of death much lower. Likely less than a third of what it is now.

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If you're looking at CDC numbers, presumed means tested by someone other than the CDC. If you're looking at C*N or N*T numbers, presumed includes a lot of bu*lshit

OP seems very stable and not at all obsessed.

1) BOTH SIDES^TM seem to be taking potshots at the CDC when its data/statements don't mesh with their chosen narrative.

2) You needed vindication that Reddit is r3tarded?

3) "this one is going to be used to shut wokeists down for YEARS" lol

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i might be even more out of the loop, do you have links to drama on other subreddits about this shit?

that's kind of the only way I can process news now. I know I'm not alone on this

Truly an a*tist of the people

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literally what

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Something about Andrew Yang?

Is that the smiling boy thing

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Wigga you realize the mortality rate is 150% the flus even though your entire country is in lockdown and cyanide mode

What do you think happens when the lockdown ends

Bruh, just the fact you are apparently too tar'ded to do some back-of-the-envelope maths doesn't mean that you have somehow invalidated it. Lets do some together shall we?

It takes about ~15 days after infection for someone to die. Therefore the number of people infected two weeks ago is roughly the number of people who died today. So far, ~100,000 people we believe have died. That means that 100,000/0.0026 people had the virus as of two weeks ago if it really is 0.26%.

And, that works out to ~38.5M people. To get from 500 to 38500000 in ~85 days, that gives you a spread rate of ~0.14 new infections, per infection, per day. And that is when we include the period of time when the majority was shut at home, the supposed best case scenario. So, extrapolating onwards, to get from 38.5M to 400M with R0=1.14, what your number implies it must be, that would take ... 18 days. And this is 18 days from two weeks ago ... and that would mean ~240M people, or over half the USA is already infected, at this very second.

So, if you are right about Pr( death | covid ) = 0.0026, and unless you have so other explanation for the 100,000 dead bodies everyone seems so worked up about, about three weeks from now, we can expect that there will be closer to 1m dead than 100k. Do you want to set that remindme bot or should I?

No, I put like five exponential equations into wolfram alpha and typed the results while high as a kite.

My mistake apparently was assuming you have the mathematical background to understand your mistake even when it is being pointed out to you.

The point you apparently missed, is that if only 0.26% of people who get it die, and 100,000 have died already, that implies 38.5 million people have already had it. Three months ago, this wasn't a thing. If the US really has gone from a handful of cases to 38.5 million in under three months, none of this matters because it is spreading so fast that everyone will have it within another month or two.

Let me try using smaller words: The mortality rate isn't 0.26%, because if it is, the virus must be so contagious that everyone will have it in another month anyway.

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If it’s been here since November

We're just making stuff up now are we?

The thing about virus is they have genetic markers that are as distinctive as tree rings, and if you have genetic analysis of samples of an infection taken over time, you can tell how the outbreak spreads and which group got it from which other group.

Of course, at the moment, resources are a little stretched to paint that map in pixel perfect detail - there is only so much genetic testing capacity in the world, but its already apparent that there are two strains, one which traveled through Europe, and the original one straight out of Asia. Both of them are in the US, but it is the strain from Europe strain that is actually more widespread.

Now, it's possible the virus showed up in November, there's just literally no evidence for it, and because viruses have these cool little tree rings built into them, you'd expect to find it if you looked for it.

Right now, tests are the cool new thing in high demand. And every self-described entrepreneur and their dog is trying to cash in, meaning the market is saturated in bs-tests that don't actually work. The US probably isn't the only government right now buying dodgy tests in bulk at a discount to run up their numbers.

As for what the CDC says - Trump at this point has let it be known he will fire anyone and everyone who doesn't publicly felaciate him. I have a funny feeling they're going to read the press release he gives them word-for-word as Jarred typed it.

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If it’s been here since November

I guess anything goes if you just make stuff up.

The thing about virus is they have genetic markers that are as distinctive as tree rings, and if you have genetic analysis of samples of an infection taken over time, you can tell how the outbreak spreads and which group got it from which other group.

Of course, at the moment, resources are a little stretched to paint that map in pixel perfect detail - there is only so much genetic testing capacity in the world, but its already apparent that there are two strains, one which traveled through Europe, and the original one straight out of Asia. Both of them are in the US, but it is the strain from Europe that is actually more widespread.

Now, it's possible the virus showed up in November, there's just literally no evidence for it, and because viruses have these cool little tree rings built into them, you'd expect to find it if you looked for it.

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I do, however, apologise for the 'tistic effort posting. Blame it on the dexedrine.

It shouldn't be important to me that you realise that the maths of your statement doesn't comport with reality, I see that now.

Less people catching it means less old and young people have it because they're all in penitary meaning the death toll is a lot lower since those are the ones who usually die from it you brainlet. The only people catching it riight now are the 20-40 year olds who want to go on vacation

Young people die from covid

You should contact pooh's puppet, he'll appreciate your groundbreaking new discovery.

The fuck does this mean

I dont give a shit about any of this and I dont know what it means

so I win 😎

Owned

Remember when D@ddy said there would be at most "a dozen" coronavirus cases and now 100,000+ Americans are dead?

Good times.

Rona deaths are being revised. Doctors were coding everything as WhoFlu because it gets them fat stacks from the federales. I bet that jogger in Minneapolis was counted as having succumbed to the Shanghai Shivers.

Do your part to keep our community healthy by blowing everything out of proportion and making literally everything as dramatic as possible.

True, but in their defense we have an obligation to do our part to keep our community healthy by blowing everything out of proportion and making literally everything as dramatic as possible.

Healthy is the last word I'd use to describe this community.

We're very well adjusted compared to other Reddit communities, thank you.

I like wearing a mask.

It's kind of like being a ninja.

Wholesome comment :3

No I'm literally actually just glad Americans are dying tbh

Please continue to spread this propaganda, it will hasten the decline of the Evil American Empire and help to liberate the global south

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Tho I’ll miss the smug concern-gloating every time a significant amount of deaths occurred. Truly an advanced circle jerk technique

Seriously. Had so many mates take this attitude with me whenever I talk about how overblown coronachan is

I don't agree that Americans deserve to die, but given the choice between two geopolitical hegemons, I'd also rather the one whose people value human life more end up on top. Please keep on spreading your valuable message.

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I am only upvoting this because I have read that one of this subreddit's rules is "Do not downvote the lolcow".

you're lookin like moderator material

Is it because of being rich or because I love putting my friend's penis in my mouth?

Upvote everybody here, except Lawlz

Thanks for helping me see the way random stranger.

you have proven to me that all the numbers are wrong and the whole world is lying.

when my shift is over I will make sure to throw away my mask and hand sanitizer, and let Chinese mainlanders cough in my mouth.

But in the meantime, Im going to have to ask you to leave, this is a Walgreens and your scaring the customers.

👉🚪

and let Chinese mainlanders cough in my mouth.

Imagine being American and stigmatizing another group of people as more likely to have coronavirus

Imagine being American

Why would I imagine being anything else?

We're literally the shitposters of the world.

We're stubborn, stupid, hypocrites, and we love it.

We live rent free in the minds of the world.

It's beautiful really.

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Maybe it's because of all the preventative measures taken that aren't taken for the flu you absolute r-slur

Atleast they aren't daddy supporters though 🤷‍♂️

So they got a leg up on you

hehe

yet Miami has half the corona death percentage of LA despite being more population dense?

Miami population density: 1,004 per sq mi

LA population density: 2,744 per sq mi

Comparing just the cities limits is incredibly misleading. The Miami city limits is drawn very differential then LA. The LA city limits doesn't include a lot of densely populated areas like Maywood and Cudahy.

Also where are you getting the "Miami has half the corona death percentage of LA" number from? Is it city limits? County? MSA?

Which means either lockdown doesn’t work or it causes more deaths than it stops.

They didn't have the same starting point though. California and New York are the states with the most air travel to COVID hot spots (China and Europe), so they're a lot farther head in terms of being infected. Give it a few months and Florida should catch up.

Remindme! 4 months "Does California still have higher excess deaths then Florida?"

A per case mortality won’t change if there’s 5 million cases or 500.

but most people who get the flu probably just say "its just a flu" and dont see anyone about it before they become one of the unlucky 0.0001% that die or whatever, but if you think you have the coronavirus, you're probably going to go see a doctor

No, I have 100% had it if we’re talking statistically. I work in a public sector and come into contact with hundreds of people a day. I’m just not a shutin loser who is scared people will go outside again and you’ll have to bathe in the reality of your failure agin.

Yeah I just don't want to get my parents sick you know

I live in an apartment but my dad has Parkinson's and occasionally needs help around the house and I'm the only competent sibling. I am very particular about hygeine and even started wearing a mask about a month before it was "required".

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You haven't thought this through, as the CFR goes down, the R0 just keeps going up. The end result is that what we have here is somewhat deadlier than the flu, but far more contagious. Altogether it still adds up to a nigh-uncontrollable pandemic capable of generating large body counts.

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Oi, you got a sorce for that m8?

Early on, I could understand lockdowns because Chinese response was pretty spooky and then Italy and New York racking up body counts that high in such short time was even more spooky. By now, though, any logistical issues with dealing with number of hospitalizations/deaths spiking should have been prepared for. I don't even get what endgame of rolling lockdowns is, do these people genuinely want to keep them till a vaccine is developed? That's insane, there's no actual hard date and even most optimistic scenario is a year.

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I don't even remember what i said

9/11 errrrryyy day yeeeaaahhhh

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How does this square with literally every massive antibody study, in NYC, Italy, and Spain all indicating death rates above 0.8%? I get Italy is old and Spaniards are punished by Allah for driving out the Moors but NYC is much younger and thinner than the average american town

Like I really really want to believe it is that low but I dont think it is

There is way too much maths in this post. Imagine thinking drama users can even count.

isn't the problem that if the lockdown happens properly, it seems tgat in retrospective it was useless? there's no way for us to know exactly what would happen if we didn't social distance, since that's what we're doing.

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Did you reply to the wrong comment?

You need to brush up on what libel is. This isn't libel or slander.

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How does Covid formed?

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Take your free vacation and calm down. Anyone complaining about lockdown is a poor and needs to get out of this thread

Dementia daddy #1 supporters eat lead paint chips. Change my mind.

the boddies are only piling up in old folks homes and and the ocassional random death attributed to crona

Ret@rded and bait

There is a noticeable increase in the total number of deaths compared to a normal year. The fact that we have no vaccine and it spreads better then the flu makes it more dangerous. And then there is the whole permanent lung damage thing for people who get it and live.

Also can we get a source for that .26% number? The lowest I can find is .4%

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I just want to keep working from home goddamnit, stop

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I believe that many in the data and scientific communities have issue with that number and think its too low. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemlee/coronavirus-cdc-infection-fatality-rate (I know its buzzfeed but their news section usually is good).

Personally I dont know wtf to believe, I hope the lower figure is right obviously but I'm still going to play it safe. One thing thats insane to me is just how retarded everyone's bet on all sides. On the one end is the i want a haircut people who spergrd out when all data was saying it is super serious, and kn the other you have the panic people hoping they get it as if that somehow makes things better

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The flu and a half oh dear oh my. Better cancel my family gathering tonight and pooling.

To all the people who lost their businesses to the .26%, you are the real heroes. Enjoy the soup kitchens.

This rtard doesn’t understand what r0 is and that makes his silly argument completely fall apart. Also comparing the CFR of novel(NEW) covid-19 and the flu is especially rtarded because covid-19 is a new virus and very few people have immunity to it. Whereas there is a vaccine for the flu and people have built up immunities over the years from contracting it.

It’s so funny to see this develop in the US.

You people are going through the same debates and shit opinions as here in Italy but with a month of difference.

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