This clip from ABC’s Nightline is beyond racist & disgusting. @ABC As a Black person I nor anyone I know that’s Black have harmed Asian people. Your clip leads the listener to believe ALL Black Americans are harming Asians.
If black people freak out this much about this tiny shit, imagine the fireworks when China finally wrecks America's shit and the Han give them a lesson on "real" critical race theory lol.
China is also declining, bruh. Theyre going from over a billion people now to about 700 million in 50 years, the biggest population contraction in the world.
That won't happen. Now that the US hegemony is on its very last legs they've got more land acquisition in their future. That means more women to hand out to their single men, like they do with the wives of the guys they send to the camps. 😂
Besides, that's not decline in the context being discussed. China actively implemented the one child policy to reduce population. By rise/decline Im referring to prosperity and power.
Yeah, and a decline in birth rate is gonna give a decline in prosperity and power. The two cant co-exist. Your prosperity is gonna tank when youve got a huge drain on your economy in an aging population.
And simply conquering territories wont fix that, either. Theyre stagnating for the same reason that Japan and SK are stagnating, not so much due to a gender imbalance (though that doesnt help, and the one child policy was extremely stupid).
decline in birth rate will lead to a loss in prosperity/power
Not necessarily. That requirement is largely based around poorly designed western programs like social security. China did it intentionally and have only grown more prosperous.
They're willing to do the obvious things that the west absolutely is not, which is why America could never hope to compete.
And again, conquering territories in the traditional way absolutely fixes that. You're used to thinking of war in the silly way America does it. Traditional conquest is incredibly profitable. It also solves any issue with birth rate they might have, as China has demonstrated they're more than willing to kill all the men and pass out the women.
That requirement is largely based around poorly designed western programs like social security.
Wrong. Go look up the 4-2-1 problem.
China did it intentionally and have only grown more prosperous.
...no, that didn't make them more prosperous. It was an incredibly short-sighted move that will heavily impact future development.
They're willing to do the obvious things that the west absolutely is not
They can't even ween themselves off massive infrastructure stimulus that is choking out their private sector by sucking up loans.
Oh, and as far as "willing to do anything", go read about how well that worked for the Germans in Eastern Europe.
conquering territories in the traditional way absolutely fixes that
What the actual fuck are you even talking about. This is some peak arr worldnews nonsense. Did you read The Prince recently?
Who are they going to conquer aside from Taiwan and more uninhabited rocks? SE Asia? China hasn't been able to keep a hold on SE Asia in over 2000 years. What makes you think they can now?
It's, exactly what I described except less severe in their case as they lack the problem. The reduced population of direct children taking care of their parents is already happening here.
Lmao that's why the future of all child free people is getting the shit kicked out of them in nursing homes. I don't think most of them realize how bad they are, and how much worse they will be by then.
Heavily impact future development
Fewer mouths to feed, more men to spend. If you're planning on taking out your neighbors its an ideal strategy.
can't get off of stimulus
I can't believe you're saying this as a comparison to America post-2008. But hey, at least here we take the Chad approach of dumping the money into the stock market instead of employing people. Very important that we keep making the numbers go up for the people that now dictate what we're allowed to say! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
read about how well that worked for the Germans
You mean the economic miracle? Of course they got butt fucked into oblivion by the whole world, but they didn't have nuclear weapons and own a solid chunk of the politicians throughout the rest of the world.
What the fuck are you even talking about.
I could ask you the same thing, because you're not making any sense.
I haven't read The Prince in quite some time, but if he said something contrary to what I'm saying it's not particularly relevant here because Machiavelli didn't know dick about war, which is why his Art of War sucked.
Though his discourses on Livy did have an interesting section discussing societies built to expand that might be educational.
what makes you think they can now?
Overwhelming power by comparison, a massive surplus male population, the looming irrelevance of the only power limiting them, and a willingness to engage in mass extermination?
You say that as if China 200 years ago was in any way comparable. China is has grown strong at a breakneck pace while draining the west.
It's, exactly what I described except less severe in their case as they lack the problem. The reduced population of direct children taking care of their parents is already happening here.
The fact that the care of the elderly is being placed on a single child, and the financing of this care on that child's savings and spending, is a huge economic problem.
Go look at Japan's age demographics. Then go look at its economic growth over the past 25 years.
Fewer mouths to feed, more men to spend. If you're planning on taking out your neighbors its an ideal strategy.
More only-child men to spend? Thus leaving their parents and grandparents without any support structure? And you think the Chinese populace would go along with that? China may be heavily authoritarian, but said authoritarianism only exists at the behest of the populace as a whole. It's one thing when only "certain people" are oppressed by the state, but sending everyone's only sons into a meat grinder after having already given them some degree of wealth (and thus something to lose) is a recipe for mass civil unrest on a scale unseen since the Chinese Civil War.
I can't believe you're saying this as a comparison to America post-2008.
The US is already one of the wealthiest countries on the planet with a high median income. China can't say the same.
You mean the economic miracle?
What economic miracle? The German economy was a literal Ponzi scheme (inb4 your inevitable "hurr durr so is fiat" comment). It was fucking garbage under Hitler and he basically ran the country into the ground economically.
Also, no. I was actually referring to the mass partisan campaigns against the Germans. The Germans were so brutal that they created massive unrest due to the fact that partisans had nothing to lose in the face of such brutality.
if he said something contrary to what I'm saying it's not particularly relevant here because Machiavelli didn't know dick about war, which is why his Art of War sucked.
I mentioned The Prince because it's usually the go-to book for people with a basic-bitch perspective on geopolitics. Juvenile, almost reflexive cynicism that treats geopolitics like a video-game, where you can click and have an entire population march its only sons to their deaths on a whim. That's not to say The Prince itself isn't a good book.
Overwhelming power by comparison
Lol, China has had overwhelming power over Southeast Asia for a majority of its history.
looming irrelevance of the only power limiting them
doubt
You say that as if China 200 years ago was in any way comparable.
To be fair to you, the excess single men will be very useful against Taiwan because its so vital important to the PRC's national identity: reuniting China after the Century of Humiliation. Also useful in a war with Japan, for obvious reasons, although that is highly unlikely if Japan doesn't interfere with an invasion of Taiwan.
Beyond Taiwan, Japan, and maybe the US, I don't see the Chinese populace getting behind other wars simply because there's no ideological backing for more in the current national narrative. That could change, of course, but I don't see it changing until after China has secured Taiwan. Taiwan is of such overwhelming importance.
Last I checked the entire global financial system still revolved around the US and the yuan is still only represents a meager 4% of total international transactions. CIPS, China's competitor to SWIFT, is mostly dead in the water since 2015.
How exactly?
4-2-1 problem. Age-demographic imbalances of that size are potentially catastrophic. It's a problem that takes 50+ years to show up, which is why China's economic progress thus far is not an indication that this won't be a massive problem.
US global hegemony is rooted in SWIFT, the origins of which date back to the close of WW2, the Marshal Plan, and various currency swaps with European countries at the time. That same global financial system is still utterly dominant.
It only causes those of you don't feed the beast. Otherwise, it's just bodies to spend.
Nope. They still happen even if you do. Chinese history is filled to the brim with civil wars.
Like I said, you don't understand what hegemony is. Being the reserve currency is a very important part of it, but being the power in the lead doesn't make you a hegemony. It requires complete dominance.
Further, US control of the global financial system has already arguably gone away. The IMF has worked against long term US interests in regards to China on multiple occasions and the US has lost control of its European vassals as evidenced by their increasing economic ties with China and Russia in the face of US economic aggression against both.
They still happen even if you do
They don't though. Your men don't kill each other when you're sending them to kill strangers abroad for their own enrichment.
As a US soldier you might be confused by the concept since you blow up children and get yourselves mutilated all for the sake of foreign interests.
Like I said, you don't understand what hegemony is. Being the reserve currency is a very important part of it
All modern power is predicated on economics. US global financial hegemony is arguably the most important factor of US hegemony as a whole. Even a globally present expeditionary military still primarily serves as a backstop of financial hegemony by establishing supremacy over global trade routes.
but being the power in the lead doesn't make you a hegemony
Hegemony can be regional or global. The mark of a superpower is global hegemony. Meirsheimer explores this topic more thoroughly.
US control of the global financial system has already arguably gone away
Not really. Europe was largely powerless to do anything with Iran when the US pulled out of the deal because the US basically controls SWIFT, which is the core of the global financial system.
The IMF is small potatoes in the grand scheme, Germany has been doing business with Russia since the 90s, and Europe has already reconsidered its economic ties to China. Most of the momentum for Europe-China trade ties was from the naive years prior to Xi Jinping's tenure. Merkel is one of the few remaining pillars of support and she's probably on her way out.
Your men don't kill each other when you're sending them to kill strangers abroad for their own enrichment.
Your men kill you when they don't want to be sent abroad and leave their parents and grandparents with no support structure.
They are also pursuing foreign policy of we both benefit vs were going to support terrorist cells over throw your governemnt and murder your civilians.
The decline of America is thanks to rich, old, white men and women who have chosen to fuck everyone over but enrich themselves and their families.
I don't disagree. America's ruling class makes almost all the decisions one way or another, and the bulk of those decisions for the past 60 years or so have been purely detrimental for the average American.
Though your perspective of how Chinese foreign policy works is a bit strange. China openly acts exclusively in its interest only, and happily engages in far more overtly hostile actions against other countries than terror cells. They'll actively murder your civilians.
Not that I'm condemning them. That's just the way of the world and the basis of all large scale powers, including America. The only difference is that China's government seems to actually work for the benefit of the Han.
Lmao nah. No one has ever said that. Are you getting thrown off by the recent declaration from the Biden government that they won't call it genocide because they can't prove China is trying to exterminate all of them?
Just Tibet
Tibet, Hong Kong, the slow and deliberate moves on Taiwan, the islands...
And I said they'd make more land grabs soon, because the US would no longer stop them. Not that they're currently conquering the world.
They're also not the only country that will do it. Once the hegemony is over lots of regional powers will arise.
Hong Kong was given to them in 00 by the english. Nothing has happened in Taiwan, and the islands are there perogative. We'll see how it plays out. I hope China plans to do good, so far there actions haven't been egregiously harmful.
They don't have to progress at all to deep dick everyone
If they don't continue to progress then they will fall apart. China's greatest foe has always been China.
China's household consumption relative to its GDP has stagnated just below 40% for about 5 years now. If the country can't shift to a consumption-based economy then the massive wealth inequality will probably tear the country apart.
Watching China give everyone exactly what they deserve is one of the few good things the future will almost certainly hold.
No shit, half the American population started to hate them and then Trump started a trade war. That's over now.
Wrong again. Household consumption relative to GDP was already declining since 2012. The trade war has little to do with it. Furthermore, the trade war was far less impactful to China and the US than normies realize.
They also bounced back from covid way better than the west.
They're a police state that can literally board up people's apartments while the residents are inside. Also, the US has kicked their ass in terms of the vaccine creation and distribution.
Not to mention, they had to lean even harder on supply-side stimulus during their massive shut-downs, which has further set them back in terms of transitioning to a consumption-based economy.
And yet their overall economy still grew significantly.
It grew using the same supply-side stimulus that has been restraining the country from shifting to consumption-based growth, which is an absolutely necessary transition if a country the size of China wants to ever get close to a high-income per capita wealth, a goal acknowledged by the CCP itself as necessary. It is unhealthy for the Chinese economy in the long term.
you say that like we're living in some free wheeling utopia
Uh, no I don't. If you think the US is at all comparable to China in terms of authoritarianism, then you are delusional.
We've spent most of the last year banned from doing anything fun, losing any significant rights we had left, and being bombarded with propaganda.
ROFL
Nothing the US did in any of these areas compares to the CCP's anti-COVID campaign. You complain about US lock-downs without realizing that they absolutely paled in comparison to what China did.
We shut down way longer than they did
We never shut down to the extent that China did. Not even close.
And suggesting that they had to lean significantly on stimulus when the US has printed like half the dollars ever printed during this is pretty silly.
The US is already a consumption based economy. China' reliance on similar supply-side stimulus measures will impede their capacity to make this transition in the future. Also, China has printed much more yuan in terms of dollar value than the US has between 2008 and 2021.
Because that model has been demonstrated to be incredibly successful in the west!
If you think the US is comparable to China...
Not at all. One is declining, the other is rising. One exists at the expense of its people, the other exists for its people.
nothing the US did compares
You're right, what the US did lasted way longer and accomplished absolutely nothing. What China did actually worked and was over pretty quickly.
We never shut down to the extent they did
Our shut downs were much broader, their shut downs were localized. Our shit downs went on forever, theirs were fairly brief.
But again, most significantly, our shut downs accomplished nothing.
Lmao remember when it was just going to be two weeks to flatten the curve?
China has printed more from 2008 to 2021
Imagine not know that they do that to intentionally reduce the value of their currency for trade purposes. It was one of the big things Trump bitched about.
Because that model has been demonstrated to be incredibly successful in the west!
Yes, it has been incredibly successful in the West.
It's the model that has produced the countries with the highest per capita GDP, aside from some tiny petro-states and tax havens. Even the Central Politburo itself has repeatedly acknowledged the necessity of shifting to consumption-based growth.
If you think the US is comparable to China...
Why do you keep cutting off sentences? It's fucking stupid. Here's what I wrote:
If you think the US is at all comparable to China in terms of authoritarianism, then you are delusional.
.
Our shut downs were much broader, their shut downs were localized. Our shit downs went on forever, theirs were fairly brief.
Their shutdowns were far more severe than anything in the US. I find it hard to even call what the US did a real shut down, which is one of the reasons they failed. Stretching these half-hearted attempts across months did absolutely nothing and was largely a political exercise.
Imagine not know that they do that to intentionally reduce the value of their currency for trade purposes.
This is flat out wrong. To begin with, Trump was about 10 years out-of-date with his complaint. By 2015 the PBOC was propping up the yuan value to maintain the purchasing power of the yuan in the global market. This is clearly evident by the $1 billion drop in Chinese forex during this period. Furthermore, they manipulate the exchange value of their currency using open-market operations, which are dependent on foreign exchange reserves. They have absolutely no need to pump out that much domestic monetary supply to affect the exchange rate of the yuan.
2080 or so when the much larger Chinese minority gets fucked with China is just uses it's soft power over the US rump-state to have the US institute Jim Crow 2.0.
As it turns out, the red Chinese were our saviors all along.
The US has demonstrated that even with by far the most sophisticated technology in the world, including effectively infinite numbers of drone bombs, they can lose to anyone.
Remember, after 20 years and trillions of dollars, the Taliban is ultimately going to rule Afghanistan. America's military is a joke.
China would dunk on America so hard it'd look like the first tslur in the WNBA. And that's without even factoring in that a huge portion of the US population would sell out to them immediately if they'd agree to kill off some other huge portion of Americans.
We're talking about the actual Taliban government controlling the country.
The Taliban has never been a government and they've never had full control of the country. The Northern Alliance dates back to the Soviet invasion and the ethnically-Pashtun Taliban have virtually no hope of controlling the areas dominated by Turkmen, Uzbeks, and Tajiks.
you still lose
It only took the US a month to completely decimate the Taliban's conventional forces at the beginning of the occupation. Once they were forced back into a phase 1 insurgency, then no amount of military hardware was going to help.
Its absolutely an argument. It's not the source of the reason why you guys have been getting your asses embarrassed consistently since before I was born, it's just an additional factor.
Remember, after 20 years and trillions of dollars, the Taliban is ultimately going to rule Afghanistan. America's military is a joke.
By that logic, the militaries of most major powers over the past 250 years are joke's.
China would dunk on America so hard it'd look like the first tslur in the WNBA. And that's without even factoring in that a huge portion of the US population would sell out to them immediately if they'd agree to kill off some other huge portion of Americans.
I don't even know how to respond to all of this stupidity.
Numerous Black people have been posting threads about Asians being anti-Black racists. Why don't you look those up instead of being a lazy bum? Also, I don't know whether you're white or Asian but you've got some nerve talking about "murder". Especially, if you're white.
White people are LITERALLY the most violent, mentally unstable people on the planet. They're responsible for every single world war. Asians are violent too but at least they generally keep it amongst themselves.
The problem is that 1) you possess a sheep mentality and are unable to think or exercise logic of your own free will, and in fact are not even capable of thought outside the societal norms you've been indoctrinated with, 2) science has not yet caught up with the subtle levels of energy of which the occult and other metaphysical phenomenon occur, and 3) even if you were capable of free thought and science were able to measure these phenomenon, you are not intelligent enough to comprehend any of it.
I mean, I could try explaining it to you. But is it worth my time? You are already of the mindset that jerking off to tranny porn is completely harmless so long as the men have makeup on. It seems their agenda has done permanent damage to your mind and you are beyond reach.
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94 TaysSecondGussy 2021-02-25
🧐🤨😬🤌🏼
69 adminsare55IQ 2021-02-25
How the turntables turn.
11 32624647 2021-02-25
Turnips
92 Neon_needles 2021-02-25
If black people freak out this much about this tiny shit, imagine the fireworks when China finally wrecks America's shit and the Han give them a lesson on "real" critical race theory lol.
70 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
Imagine thinking that Han Chinese will ever progress beyond fucking one another and their immediate neighbors over.
34 Leylinus 2021-02-25
They don't have to progress at all to deep dick everyone, everyone else just has to keep declining.
Watching China give everyone exactly what they deserve is one of the few good things the future will almost certainly hold.
25 Ultrashitposter 2021-02-25
China is also declining, bruh. Theyre going from over a billion people now to about 700 million in 50 years, the biggest population contraction in the world.
12 Leylinus 2021-02-25
That won't happen. Now that the US hegemony is on its very last legs they've got more land acquisition in their future. That means more women to hand out to their single men, like they do with the wives of the guys they send to the camps. 😂
Besides, that's not decline in the context being discussed. China actively implemented the one child policy to reduce population. By rise/decline Im referring to prosperity and power.
18 Ultrashitposter 2021-02-25
Yeah, and a decline in birth rate is gonna give a decline in prosperity and power. The two cant co-exist. Your prosperity is gonna tank when youve got a huge drain on your economy in an aging population.
And simply conquering territories wont fix that, either. Theyre stagnating for the same reason that Japan and SK are stagnating, not so much due to a gender imbalance (though that doesnt help, and the one child policy was extremely stupid).
3 Leylinus 2021-02-25
Not necessarily. That requirement is largely based around poorly designed western programs like social security. China did it intentionally and have only grown more prosperous.
They're willing to do the obvious things that the west absolutely is not, which is why America could never hope to compete.
And again, conquering territories in the traditional way absolutely fixes that. You're used to thinking of war in the silly way America does it. Traditional conquest is incredibly profitable. It also solves any issue with birth rate they might have, as China has demonstrated they're more than willing to kill all the men and pass out the women.
8 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
Wrong. Go look up the 4-2-1 problem.
...no, that didn't make them more prosperous. It was an incredibly short-sighted move that will heavily impact future development.
They can't even ween themselves off massive infrastructure stimulus that is choking out their private sector by sucking up loans.
Oh, and as far as "willing to do anything", go read about how well that worked for the Germans in Eastern Europe.
What the actual fuck are you even talking about. This is some peak arr worldnews nonsense. Did you read The Prince recently?
Who are they going to conquer aside from Taiwan and more uninhabited rocks? SE Asia? China hasn't been able to keep a hold on SE Asia in over 2000 years. What makes you think they can now?
0 Leylinus 2021-02-25
It's, exactly what I described except less severe in their case as they lack the problem. The reduced population of direct children taking care of their parents is already happening here.
Lmao that's why the future of all child free people is getting the shit kicked out of them in nursing homes. I don't think most of them realize how bad they are, and how much worse they will be by then.
Fewer mouths to feed, more men to spend. If you're planning on taking out your neighbors its an ideal strategy.
I can't believe you're saying this as a comparison to America post-2008. But hey, at least here we take the Chad approach of dumping the money into the stock market instead of employing people. Very important that we keep making the numbers go up for the people that now dictate what we're allowed to say! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
You mean the economic miracle? Of course they got butt fucked into oblivion by the whole world, but they didn't have nuclear weapons and own a solid chunk of the politicians throughout the rest of the world.
I could ask you the same thing, because you're not making any sense.
I haven't read The Prince in quite some time, but if he said something contrary to what I'm saying it's not particularly relevant here because Machiavelli didn't know dick about war, which is why his Art of War sucked.
Though his discourses on Livy did have an interesting section discussing societies built to expand that might be educational.
Overwhelming power by comparison, a massive surplus male population, the looming irrelevance of the only power limiting them, and a willingness to engage in mass extermination?
You say that as if China 200 years ago was in any way comparable. China is has grown strong at a breakneck pace while draining the west.
4 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
The fact that the care of the elderly is being placed on a single child, and the financing of this care on that child's savings and spending, is a huge economic problem.
Go look at Japan's age demographics. Then go look at its economic growth over the past 25 years.
More only-child men to spend? Thus leaving their parents and grandparents without any support structure? And you think the Chinese populace would go along with that? China may be heavily authoritarian, but said authoritarianism only exists at the behest of the populace as a whole. It's one thing when only "certain people" are oppressed by the state, but sending everyone's only sons into a meat grinder after having already given them some degree of wealth (and thus something to lose) is a recipe for mass civil unrest on a scale unseen since the Chinese Civil War.
The US is already one of the wealthiest countries on the planet with a high median income. China can't say the same.
What economic miracle? The German economy was a literal Ponzi scheme (inb4 your inevitable "hurr durr so is fiat" comment). It was fucking garbage under Hitler and he basically ran the country into the ground economically.
Also, no. I was actually referring to the mass partisan campaigns against the Germans. The Germans were so brutal that they created massive unrest due to the fact that partisans had nothing to lose in the face of such brutality.
I mentioned The Prince because it's usually the go-to book for people with a basic-bitch perspective on geopolitics. Juvenile, almost reflexive cynicism that treats geopolitics like a video-game, where you can click and have an entire population march its only sons to their deaths on a whim. That's not to say The Prince itself isn't a good book.
Lol, China has had overwhelming power over Southeast Asia for a majority of its history.
doubt
I didn't say 200 years. I said 2000 years.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
To be fair to you, the excess single men will be very useful against Taiwan because its so vital important to the PRC's national identity: reuniting China after the Century of Humiliation. Also useful in a war with Japan, for obvious reasons, although that is highly unlikely if Japan doesn't interfere with an invasion of Taiwan.
Beyond Taiwan, Japan, and maybe the US, I don't see the Chinese populace getting behind other wars simply because there's no ideological backing for more in the current national narrative. That could change, of course, but I don't see it changing until after China has secured Taiwan. Taiwan is of such overwhelming importance.
1 nybbas 2021-02-25
So what you are saying is that Corona is actually good for the US. Thin out the elderly.
2 Ultrashitposter 2021-02-25
Exactly
In fact, the most economically beneficial retirement policy would be execution.
8 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
It is?
And they severely fucked themselves over by doing so.
2 Leylinus 2021-02-25
Absolutely. Its been winding down for over a decade. How do you not know that?
How exactly? They've done nothing but prosper. The ended up with a surplus male population, but we all know what that's good for.
4 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
Last I checked the entire global financial system still revolved around the US and the yuan is still only represents a meager 4% of total international transactions. CIPS, China's competitor to SWIFT, is mostly dead in the water since 2015.
4-2-1 problem. Age-demographic imbalances of that size are potentially catastrophic. It's a problem that takes 50+ years to show up, which is why China's economic progress thus far is not an indication that this won't be a massive problem.
Civil wars
0 Leylinus 2021-02-25
Look it up because
You made me look this up and it's exactly what I said in the first place.
It only causes those of you don't feed the beast. Otherwise, it's just bodies to spend.
3 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
US global hegemony is rooted in SWIFT, the origins of which date back to the close of WW2, the Marshal Plan, and various currency swaps with European countries at the time. That same global financial system is still utterly dominant.
Nope. They still happen even if you do. Chinese history is filled to the brim with civil wars.
1 Leylinus 2021-02-25
Like I said, you don't understand what hegemony is. Being the reserve currency is a very important part of it, but being the power in the lead doesn't make you a hegemony. It requires complete dominance.
Further, US control of the global financial system has already arguably gone away. The IMF has worked against long term US interests in regards to China on multiple occasions and the US has lost control of its European vassals as evidenced by their increasing economic ties with China and Russia in the face of US economic aggression against both.
They don't though. Your men don't kill each other when you're sending them to kill strangers abroad for their own enrichment.
As a US soldier you might be confused by the concept since you blow up children and get yourselves mutilated all for the sake of foreign interests.
2 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
All modern power is predicated on economics. US global financial hegemony is arguably the most important factor of US hegemony as a whole. Even a globally present expeditionary military still primarily serves as a backstop of financial hegemony by establishing supremacy over global trade routes.
Hegemony can be regional or global. The mark of a superpower is global hegemony. Meirsheimer explores this topic more thoroughly.
Not really. Europe was largely powerless to do anything with Iran when the US pulled out of the deal because the US basically controls SWIFT, which is the core of the global financial system.
The IMF is small potatoes in the grand scheme, Germany has been doing business with Russia since the 90s, and Europe has already reconsidered its economic ties to China. Most of the momentum for Europe-China trade ties was from the naive years prior to Xi Jinping's tenure. Merkel is one of the few remaining pillars of support and she's probably on her way out.
Your men kill you when they don't want to be sent abroad and leave their parents and grandparents with no support structure.
lol wat
1 Leylinus 2021-02-25
Wait a second, you're not even in the army now? This entire conversation has been predicated on that.
Lmao imagine simping for the troops in 2021.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
I've never been in the military.
I don't know how I'm simping for troops. I just think the US actually has decent soldiers on average, all things considered.
-2 __TIE_Guy 2021-02-25
They are also pursuing foreign policy of we both benefit vs were going to support terrorist cells over throw your governemnt and murder your civilians.
The decline of America is thanks to rich, old, white men and women who have chosen to fuck everyone over but enrich themselves and their families.
2 Leylinus 2021-02-25
I don't disagree. America's ruling class makes almost all the decisions one way or another, and the bulk of those decisions for the past 60 years or so have been purely detrimental for the average American.
Though your perspective of how Chinese foreign policy works is a bit strange. China openly acts exclusively in its interest only, and happily engages in far more overtly hostile actions against other countries than terror cells. They'll actively murder your civilians.
Not that I'm condemning them. That's just the way of the world and the basis of all large scale powers, including America. The only difference is that China's government seems to actually work for the benefit of the Han.
-2 __TIE_Guy 2021-02-25
Asides from Tibet and that recent skirmish with India I can't think of any other invasion. Also the whole ungher thing is BS.
4 Leylinus 2021-02-25
Lmao nah. No one has ever said that. Are you getting thrown off by the recent declaration from the Biden government that they won't call it genocide because they can't prove China is trying to exterminate all of them?
Tibet, Hong Kong, the slow and deliberate moves on Taiwan, the islands...
And I said they'd make more land grabs soon, because the US would no longer stop them. Not that they're currently conquering the world.
They're also not the only country that will do it. Once the hegemony is over lots of regional powers will arise.
3 __TIE_Guy 2021-02-25
Hong Kong was given to them in 00 by the english. Nothing has happened in Taiwan, and the islands are there perogative. We'll see how it plays out. I hope China plans to do good, so far there actions haven't been egregiously harmful.
5 Leylinus 2021-02-25
Yep, and they've recently cracked down on them hard as they've existed with pseudo independence,
That's where you're wrong kiddo
What does that even mean.
I don't. Everyone deserves what China will give them.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
lol no
3 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
If they don't continue to progress then they will fall apart. China's greatest foe has always been China.
China's household consumption relative to its GDP has stagnated just below 40% for about 5 years now. If the country can't shift to a consumption-based economy then the massive wealth inequality will probably tear the country apart.
lol wat
1 Leylinus 2021-02-25
No shit, half the American population started to hate them and then Trump started a trade war. That's over now.
They also bounced back from covid way better than the west. The future belongs to China.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
Wrong again. Household consumption relative to GDP was already declining since 2012. The trade war has little to do with it. Furthermore, the trade war was far less impactful to China and the US than normies realize.
They're a police state that can literally board up people's apartments while the residents are inside. Also, the US has kicked their ass in terms of the vaccine creation and distribution.
Not to mention, they had to lean even harder on supply-side stimulus during their massive shut-downs, which has further set them back in terms of transitioning to a consumption-based economy.
1 Leylinus 2021-02-25
And yet their overall economy still grew significantly.
Lmao you say that like we're living in some free wheeling utopia.
And yet their overall economy still grew significantly.
We've spent most of the last year banned from doing anything fun, losing any significant rights we had left, and being bombarded with propaganda.
We shut down way longer than they did, so I don't know why you're calling their shutdown massive by comparison.
And suggesting that they had to lean significantly on stimulus when the US has printed like half the dollars ever printed during this is pretty silly.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
It grew using the same supply-side stimulus that has been restraining the country from shifting to consumption-based growth, which is an absolutely necessary transition if a country the size of China wants to ever get close to a high-income per capita wealth, a goal acknowledged by the CCP itself as necessary. It is unhealthy for the Chinese economy in the long term.
Uh, no I don't. If you think the US is at all comparable to China in terms of authoritarianism, then you are delusional.
ROFL
Nothing the US did in any of these areas compares to the CCP's anti-COVID campaign. You complain about US lock-downs without realizing that they absolutely paled in comparison to what China did.
We never shut down to the extent that China did. Not even close.
The US is already a consumption based economy. China' reliance on similar supply-side stimulus measures will impede their capacity to make this transition in the future. Also, China has printed much more yuan in terms of dollar value than the US has between 2008 and 2021.
US M2: $19.4 trillion
China M2: $31.6 trillion
1 Leylinus 2021-02-25
Because that model has been demonstrated to be incredibly successful in the west!
Not at all. One is declining, the other is rising. One exists at the expense of its people, the other exists for its people.
You're right, what the US did lasted way longer and accomplished absolutely nothing. What China did actually worked and was over pretty quickly.
Our shut downs were much broader, their shut downs were localized. Our shit downs went on forever, theirs were fairly brief.
But again, most significantly, our shut downs accomplished nothing.
Lmao remember when it was just going to be two weeks to flatten the curve?
Imagine not know that they do that to intentionally reduce the value of their currency for trade purposes. It was one of the big things Trump bitched about.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
Yes, it has been incredibly successful in the West.
It's the model that has produced the countries with the highest per capita GDP, aside from some tiny petro-states and tax havens. Even the Central Politburo itself has repeatedly acknowledged the necessity of shifting to consumption-based growth.
Why do you keep cutting off sentences? It's fucking stupid. Here's what I wrote:
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Their shutdowns were far more severe than anything in the US. I find it hard to even call what the US did a real shut down, which is one of the reasons they failed. Stretching these half-hearted attempts across months did absolutely nothing and was largely a political exercise.
This is flat out wrong. To begin with, Trump was about 10 years out-of-date with his complaint. By 2015 the PBOC was propping up the yuan value to maintain the purchasing power of the yuan in the global market. This is clearly evident by the $1 billion drop in Chinese forex during this period. Furthermore, they manipulate the exchange value of their currency using open-market operations, which are dependent on foreign exchange reserves. They have absolutely no need to pump out that much domestic monetary supply to affect the exchange rate of the yuan.
31 PacificSpices 2021-02-25
As it turns out, the red Chinese were our saviors all along.
9 Leylinus 2021-02-25
Tfw Red Dawn was right about everything
3 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
What soft power?
21 texanresurrection44 2021-02-25
China and wrecking anyone lmao. They got raped to death by an island of savage weeaboos and samurai larpers
26 fernguts 2021-02-25
Can Japanese people be weeaboos?
2 AugustinesBitchBoy 2021-02-25
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUoY-cSdxlc
1 busslordlowkeybussin 2021-02-25
Great find. Eye opening stuff.
-6 Leylinus 2021-02-25
The US has demonstrated that even with by far the most sophisticated technology in the world, including effectively infinite numbers of drone bombs, they can lose to anyone.
Remember, after 20 years and trillions of dollars, the Taliban is ultimately going to rule Afghanistan. America's military is a joke.
China would dunk on America so hard it'd look like the first tslur in the WNBA. And that's without even factoring in that a huge portion of the US population would sell out to them immediately if they'd agree to kill off some other huge portion of Americans.
7 Eternal_Mr_Bones 2021-02-25
Unless you literally wipe Afghanistan off the planet you were never going to find every cockroach hiding there lol.
2 Leylinus 2021-02-25
We're not talking about them murdering everyone. We're talking about the actual Taliban government controlling the country.
I'm not complaining about the outcome. Taliban never did anything to me. I'm pointing out that the United States military is bitchmade.
Imagine having Apache helicopters vs AKs that have been buried in the desert since the fall of the Soviet Union and you still lose.
Even accounting for the US soldiers being shit, Taliban has to be pretty bad ass too.
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1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
The Taliban has never been a government and they've never had full control of the country. The Northern Alliance dates back to the Soviet invasion and the ethnically-Pashtun Taliban have virtually no hope of controlling the areas dominated by Turkmen, Uzbeks, and Tajiks.
It only took the US a month to completely decimate the Taliban's conventional forces at the beginning of the occupation. Once they were forced back into a phase 1 insurgency, then no amount of military hardware was going to help.
You just keep saying stupid shit.
0 Leylinus 2021-02-25
Oh, that's why there's all these posts. You're an angry soldier.
Lmao girls can literally do your job.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
not an argument
1 Leylinus 2021-02-25
Its absolutely an argument. It's not the source of the reason why you guys have been getting your asses embarrassed consistently since before I was born, it's just an additional factor.
I sincerely hope my posts aren't giving you PTSD!
5 UpvoteIfYouDare 2021-02-25
By that logic, the militaries of most major powers over the past 250 years are joke's.
I don't even know how to respond to all of this stupidity.
13 HodorTheDoorHolder__ 2021-02-25
They have to get a working boat first
12 Pepperglue 2021-02-25
You must have not get the memo about how Chinese universities assign female students as escort to their foreign students from Africa.
The future is Black, bigot.
7 SupaDupaFlyAccount 2021-02-25
When I was in Northern China, they told me not to shower everyday because of the risk of water on the brain. I wouldn't hold my breathe on that one.
61 fujiste 2021-02-25
@WarriorRoxanne:
go 👏🏿 off 👏🏿 queen 👏🏿
New Snappy quote?
27 -M-o-X- 2021-02-25
Germans aren't wh*te cmv
45 UnheardIdentity 2021-02-25
Dude really really wants a race war.
20 Leylinus 2021-02-25
Tariq Nasheed has always been twitter's best boy. We need more people like him.
13 HodorTheDoorHolder__ 2021-02-25
He’s going to get his Twitter account suspended due to this topic.
38 busslordlowkeybussin 2021-02-25
I think cancelling or even just trying to cancel Tariq will only make him stronger.
13 Zozbot 2021-02-25
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10 Pepperglue 2021-02-25
Based Tariq dispelling the facade of racial harmony.
6 johannesalthusius 2021-02-25
nooo we were this close to squishing out whitey
8 SnapshillBot 2021-02-25
The problem is that 1) you possess a sheep mentality and are unable to think or exercise logic of your own free will, and in fact are not even capable of thought outside the societal norms you've been indoctrinated with, 2) science has not yet caught up with the subtle levels of energy of which the occult and other metaphysical phenomenon occur, and 3) even if you were capable of free thought and science were able to measure these phenomenon, you are not intelligent enough to comprehend any of it.
I mean, I could try explaining it to you. But is it worth my time? You are already of the mindset that jerking off to tranny porn is completely harmless so long as the men have makeup on. It seems their agenda has done permanent damage to your mind and you are beyond reach.
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