This is unironically huge.

How? It's purely performatory. Turkey is currently not in the good graces, so Armenians can be thrown a bone. It doesn't actually change anything.

It severely impacts any future dealings with Turkey should we every try and improve relationships with them. It's not something that can really be walked back without looking super weak. Plus, if you're looking at it from Turkey's point of view it could also be seen as a signal just how far down on the shit list you've fallen.

So it's a signal, which is precisely my point. Took burgers long enough, anyway. Everyone else anywhere near Turkey that matters recognised it ages ago.

near Turkey that matters

No such country

*seething literally who noises*

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ummm russia sweaty

Bruv, a majority of international relations is signaling. Just because it's a signal doesn't mean it isn't significant.

Sure, but it's usually about shit that actually demonstrates some intent. In this case, all it shows is that Turks aren't held in high regard anymore, which they clearly already knew - sanctions kind of demonstrated that already. What does this signal actually change? What new thing does it show?

It has much more to do with the change in precedent. Like you said earlier, everyone knows what happened. The US has officially kept its mouth shut on this for decades, the implication being that it would overlook Turkey's past indiscretion for its cooperation with NATO and not being completely hostile with Greece. Finally acknowledging this is basically a giant red flag from the US government that the relationship that has existed for the better part of a century is on its last legs.

To be fair, Congress voted to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide back in 2019, so this event on its own isn't as individually important as the overall progression of recognition as a whole.

What new thing does it show?

that the US doesn't consider it beneficial to maintain a strong positive relationship with Turkey anymore. It's a big power move and probably has implications for the conflict in Syria and NATO.

Where did your Heathcliff flair go?

i have no idea

Do you honestly think Biden cares about the US looking weak? 🤣

It makes the us look like they're confident enough in NATO's security that they don't need to pander to the turks to keep them happy

Biden's the one that called it a genocide, why would he be walking that back?

True. He limits his walking ever since the stairs incident.

I think the narrative has been Turkey has curbed the flow of migrants but has also started supporting Bashir?

No, Turkey has not been supporting Assad. They're in opposition to the Kurds primarily, Iran secondarily, and finally ISIS. They've been making overtures toward Russia but also supporting Azerbaijan against Armenia (who is under Russia's security umbrella) because Turkey is feeling out its options as an independent regional power. The reality is that the Russians don't matter nearly as much as they did during the Cold War, and thus Turkey and its control over the Bosporus isn't nearly as important to NATO anymore. It's pretty damn complicated, actually.

Honestly like this was a very well written and informative response, I haven't vetted it but for them little knowledge I have I can see how they are feeling things out. Thanks homie.

I've tried to capture the very broad strokes but to be honest, I haven't followed it nearly as closely as some. You could probably find better among some of the good SyrianCivilWar users, although you'll have to find them among all the trolls and idiots.

To many times I have been fooled online. However, every time that critical thinking muscle gets a little work out.

But there are over a hundred other countries?

It sends a clear message that Turkey is no longer important enough for the US to avoid offending it.

Turkey is currently not in the good graces

...starfire?

You always hear about the failed ones.

I want Président Biden to make the It*ans apologize for the Celtic genocide who took place in GAVL.

https://i.redd.it/61qtu3hw70p41.jpg

Vae victis

Va fanculo hehe

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What does Cenk have to say about this?

Isn't he Turkish and his bimbo hottie cohost was Armenian right?

And not a distant descendant of Armenians (like those Americans that say "I'm Polish/Irish/X" because their great grandfather's was from there). She's so Armenian that she didn't speak English as a kid.

Imagine being an actual Armenian and deciding to join something literally called "The Young Turks" with a roach 🙈. She really must've assimilated to the American culture by putting money before anything else.

R u fucking with me cuz I'm high or is this true

Its troof.

Ana tweeted about it this morning, she’s very happy with DDB 🥰

Nothing yet lol

In return, Turkey should have african american remembrance day.

How could anyone forget them?

DDD to be banned from Twitter for undermining NATO

I want to see Turkish sperg out.

Good, first we sail through Indian Ocean to piss off the Indians, now we are remembering the existence of Armenians to piss off the Turks. Something not even DDR had the balls to do.

Those two countries need to know their place.

The Indians, like the Philipinos Japanese South Koreans and Taiwanese are very happy to see a major American military presence in the region given the pressure China has been applying to all of them

Well they were complaining the other day that we were exercising our right to go where ever we want on their turf.

Indians were mad US Navy went through their waters

Owning the Russians by giving them Turkey

Turkey has their own reasons to be wary of Russia, they’re not going to cozy up to Putin over this. They’d much rather establish themselves as an independent regional power, not reliant on China, Russia or the United States, than continue to suck up to anyone.

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"DDB breaks out the DDT" would have been a better title.