r/drama: Berlin cops say that Germany has produced its third gay internet sex-cannibal

Berlin cops say that Germany has produced its third gay internet sex-cannibal

1 2021-06-23 by Can_The_SRDine

The story began on November 8, 2020, when a hiker found a fresh human femur with bitemarks on it in a park in Berlin. Not long after that, a human torso "with flesh attached" was also found elsewhere in Berlin. Homicide detectives pieced together the puzzle and quickly found that these body parts had belonged to powerline worker Stefan Trogisch, aged 44.

Ten days later, two teams of sniffer dogs "independently led" (read: each doggo started with a different body part) investigators to an apartment in the eastern Berlin neighborhood of Pankow, owned by one Stefan R., a high school chemistry teacher (in Germany, suspects' names aren't released until a case has gone to trial. Faces are kosher, though). Detectives searched Mr. R.'s flat and found lye, caustic soda, a wheelbarrow, an empty cooler, butchery knives, and a surgical bone saw.

Again, German privacy law makes it hard to know much about murders this early. It was hard to even find out which photo was the suspect's and which was the victim's; I was confused at first because one of Trogisch's photos is pretty clearly a mugshot. I have no clue what Trogisch was arrested for; a google search mostly turned up an unrelated German university professor, who's gonna have an interesting google problem for the next few years.

"But Can," you might be asking me. "Why would anyone wonder whether or not a cannibal's victim consented?" That's because there are two known cases of consensual internet sex-cannibalism, and both of them happened in Germany.

Case 1: Armin Meiwes, a computer repairman from Hesse, ate Bernd Brandes, an engineer from Berlin. The two had extensively discussed their plans on a German chatroom for cannibalism fetishists. Meiwes even set up a bunch of cameras in his house to film their entire encounter, which left no doubt that Brandes had consented to being eaten. Meiwes is serving a life sentence, but he's allowed to take day trips out of prison (in disguise and under police supervision).
Case 2: Detlev Guenzel, a forensic police detective from Dresden, killed and ate expat Polish businessman Wojciech Stempniewicz in the basement BDSM studio underneath Guenzel's bed and breakfast. Guenzel made a home video as well, but apparently Stempniewicz was already mostly dead and incoherent when the camera started rolling. However, the digital breadcrumbs revealed that once again, Stempniewicz had been looking for someone who'd eat him for quite some time; eventually, he got ... lucky(?) and met Guenzel.

The cops are convinced by now that Stefan R. had a deep interest in cannibalism, and had thoroughly researched the subject online. According to Bild, his google search history included stuff like "how long can a person survive with his penis cut off?" They also are saying that the two Stefans met on a gay dating app and communicated for a while before they finally met. However, there remains no evidence (yet) that Trogisch knew he was gonna meet his maker.

One similarity, though, is that all three cannibals were respected in their public lives. In fact, Meiwes and Guenzel were downright popular in their communities. Meiwes in particular was beloved in his hometown: he taught elderly neighbors how to set up email addresses, babysat his neighbors' kids, and threw lively dinner parties (but he doesn't seem to have served long pork to anyone). We don't know much about Stefan R.'s personal life yet, but I'm sure we'll learn something good.

63 comments

178 Hamalama 2021-06-23

Ya know I’m starting to question the morality of the German people 🤔

45 TheCockworkGod 2021-06-23

how can you question germs when anglos exist 🤢

18 daggermag 2021-06-23

same thing really. the anglo-saxon-germanic-warrior-bankers-colonizers

12 smeppel 2021-06-23

Die Endlösung der Deutschenfrage.

0 Beefaronisoup 2021-06-23

Ya know I’m starting to question the morality of the German people

Your about 2500 years late to the party

-1 goodbehaviorsam 2021-06-23

If Germans had morality, they wouldn't have destroyed Europe multiple times.

54 Hamalama 2021-06-23

Oh look u almost got it honey güt job

20 _____kek_____ 2021-06-23

If they had morality they would’ve succeeded in finishing off the eurangutans

14 daggermag 2021-06-23

> kek in username

CRINGE

and yes I DID downvote you. muahahahaha

1 AugustinesBitchBoy 2021-06-23

If they had any morality they would have nuked themselves decades ago

10 DeanofPSU 2021-06-23

A moral people would have done it ONCE.

2 HKissingerFanBoy 2021-06-23

They would have done it more times.

89 jimmerz28 2021-06-23

Berlin

How unsurprising.

78 hyphenjack 2021-06-23

Oh, Berlin.

What is Berlin? Berlin, as a city, brings nothing but shame to Germany on the international stage. When comparing Berlin with other European capitals such as London, Paris, Madrid and Amsterdam, any decent human’s face must blush in humiliation. Even small countries like Austria, Belgium or Switzerland have Vienna, Brussels and Zurich: presentable cities, complete with high standards of living. Germany gets punished with Berlin, capital of losers.

In all the republic, Berlin is home to the largest number of arseholes by far. Deutsche Bahn, Bundestag, Air Berlin and Axel Springer are but a few examples of all the incompetent scum being kept here. Glorious times have long since passed, the city is face down in the dirt. Berliners are lazy sods to their very core. Traits that would, in any civilised culture, pass for nothing but laziness, rudeness, incompetence, dissocial personality disorder or idiocy, are taken by the Berliner and declared a way of life. That is why the Berliner harbours intense feelings of hatred for anyone who’s better than him in any way.

Especially the all-around superior Southern Germany are a thorn in his side. He envies their success, and Munich makes the top on his list of hatred. That city is – and has! – everything that Berlin wants to be and have. Berliners take no interest in the fact that it is Munich that finances their dissolute lifestyle, in fact, they secretly believe that they have earned it. So instead of freeing themselves from their envious and resentful lethargy, instead of rolling up their sleeves and improve their city, they revel in their antisocial freeloading and praise their so-called global city.

Culturally, Berliners are set up rather weakly, great works lie far back in history. Moreover, mispronouncing “g” as “j” is considered a great cultural feat. Advanced students have mastered ending each and every sentence with a “wa?”. The city’s culinary performance is second-rate. Here, a sausage made from glued-together, meaty odds and ends adorned with ketchup and curry powder is sold as a culinary masterpiece. Hardly any reasonable person would consider a bratwurst with ketchup a recipe, let alone the holy grail of culinary arts. Yet, in their magnanimity, the rest of the republic lets the Berliner keep his delusion, not wanting to amplify his inferiority complex.

Economically, Berlin is an utter disaster, even the late GDR stood on more solid ground. The local economy is based around alternative blogs, something-something-media and, if universities are to be believed, gender studies. Disregarding his own bankruptcy, the Berliner treats himself to prestigious projects like the city palace and the airport – which, considering its inoperative nature, is likely an art installation.

Moreover, the city houses all popular parties’ headquarters, who refrain from using “traitors” in their official names (Probably for marketing reasons). For the longest time, this “town’s” “mayor”, the jolly Wowibear, butchered anything he found left in a presentable state. Long story short: Berlin is Germany’s tiled coffee table. It is to Germany what Greece is to the European Union, and if it had open sewerage, it would be Germanys Romania. Berlin is a blemish, the abscess on the arse of the nation. Berlin is the uninvited party guest, who didn’t even bring any booze and wouldn’t even understand he’s not welcome if he had is teeth beaten out and got thrown down the stairs.

Berlin is the Detroit of Germany and should be sold to Poland for 200 Złoty.

48 jimmerz28 2021-06-23

Berlin is the Detroit

Um no. I live in Detroit. Berlin is worse.

Try Portland. Although I've never been there.

At least in Detroit Americans act like Americans whereas everyone in Berlin tries to act like they're American.

Fucking disgusting.

(Although the Curtain Club is awesome for cocktails if you're ever there.)

10 lolcows65 2021-06-23

Portland used to be nice well at least the area around it.

4 Eastern_Emotion6906 2021-06-23

ich bin ein berliner

3 jimmerz28 2021-06-23

Eher behindert.

18 ATissu 2021-06-23

Wow this is great, germs being critical of their own shithole on the English internet is even rarer than a humble, non smug or non mayo srdine. Whoever wrote this pasta deserves to be spared from the germicide honestly.

(the worst part is that Germans actually believe they are too self critical which is just not surprising from a country with a history of delusional thoughts. Especially considering they are even more afflicted by America Derangement Syndrome than France is)

10 jimmerz28 2021-06-23

Just FYI your use of parentheses is horrible.

13 ATissu 2021-06-23

(You sound like a German 🤔 (or maybe even worse, an English Major) )

6 languidhorse 2021-06-23

A German who majored in English 🤢

1 jimmerz28 2021-06-23

Oddly, neither.

6 acertenay 2021-06-23

Why ?

13 Can_The_SRDine 2021-06-23

Oh, Berlin. What is Berlin? Berlin, as a city, brings nothing but shame to Germany on the international stage. When comparing Berlin with other European capitals such as London, Paris, Madrid and Amsterdam, any decent human’s face must blush in humiliation. Even small countries like Austria, Belgium or Switzerland have Vienna, Brussels and Zurich: presentable cities, complete with high standards of living. Germany gets punished with Berlin, capital of losers. In all the republic, Berlin is home to the largest number of arseholes by far. Deutsche Bahn, Bundestag, Air Berlin and Axel Springer are but a few examples of all the incompetent scum being kept here. Glorious times have long since passed, the city is face down in the dirt. Berliners are lazy sods to their very core. Traits that would, in any civilised culture, pass for nothing but laziness, rudeness, incompetence, dissocial personality disorder or idiocy, are taken by the Berliner and declared a way of life. That is why the Berliner harbours intense feelings of hatred for anyone who’s better than him in any way. Especially the all-around superior Southern Germany are a thorn in his side. He envies their success, and Munich makes the top on his list of hatred. That city is – and has! – everything that Berlin wants to be and have. Berliners take no interest in the fact that it is Munich that finances their dissolute lifestyle, in fact, they secretly believe that they have earned it. So instead of freeing themselves from their envious and resentful lethargy, instead of rolling up their sleeves and improve their city, they revel in their antisocial freeloading and praise their so-called global city. Culturally, Berliners are set up rather weakly, great works lie far back in history. Moreover, mispronouncing “g” as “j” is considered a great cultural feat. Advanced students have mastered ending each and every sentence with a “wa?”. The city’s culinary performance is second-rate. Here, a sausage made from glued-together, meaty odds and ends adorned with ketchup and curry powder is sold as a culinary masterpiece. Hardly any reasonable person would consider a bratwurst with ketchup a recipe, let alone the holy grail of culinary arts. Yet, in their magnanimity, the rest of the republic lets the Berliner keep his delusion, not wanting to amplify his inferiority complex. Economically, Berlin is an utter disaster, even the late GDR stood on more solid ground. The local economy is based around alternative blogs, something-something-media and, if universities are to be believed, gender studies. Disregarding his own bankruptcy, the Berliner treats himself to prestigious projects like the city palace and the airport – which, considering its inoperative nature, is likely an art installation. Moreover, the city houses all popular parties’ headquarters, who refrain from using “traitors” in their official names (Probably for marketing reasons). For the longest time, this “town’s” “mayor”, the jolly Wowibear, butchered anything he found left in a presentable state. Long story short: Berlin is Germany’s tiled coffee table. It is to Germany what Greece is to the European Union, and if it had open sewerage, it would be Germanys Romania. Berlin is a blemish, the abscess on the arse of the nation. Berlin is the uninvited party guest, who didn’t even bring any booze and wouldn’t even understand he’s not welcome if he had is teeth beaten out and got thrown down the stairs. Berlin is the Detroit of Germany and should be sold to Poland for 200 Złoty.

44 realWaterMark 2021-06-23

Oh my God how the fuck does this keep happening

Remind me if I'm ever in Germany to get the fuck out of Germany

Meiwes is serving a life sentence, but he's allowed to take day trips out of prison (in disguise and under police supervision).

It is important to note that all life sentences in Germany have an implicit parole after 15 years, that's the maximum sentence. It's not possible to prohibit the possibility of parole. So he'll likely be out in the future. In fact all of these people will.

34 TheCockworkGod 2021-06-23

rehabilitory justice is based asf.

valueing the life of violent criminals over the life of their future victims is great for dramacoin

5 freet0 2021-06-23

I mean it sounds like either of these guys' victims didn't value their own lives either. I want to live in a world that respects every man's god given right to be dismembered and eaten.

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1 AlbionPrince 2021-06-23

It’s hard to kill someone if you’re dead

22 ATissu 2021-06-23

Wow that's absurd, they should be paroled a lot earlier Imo. At 15 years between each meal he can only get rid of a maximum of 5-6 germanoids in a lifetime. I thought germs had the whole "efficient industrial genocide" thing figured out already? 🙄

2 realWaterMark 2021-06-23

this

2 GabrielMartinellli 2021-06-23

😂😂

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38 smeernootjes 2021-06-23

What is wrong with G*rms

34 daggermag 2021-06-23

No wit and no humorous soul. Even Victorian writers bitched about the 'tism of the German princes/princesses. That is why everyone used to love France and follow Paris as the cultural capital of the world. Then France was bled dry in WW1.

German engineering is an oxymoron. They are just really good NPCs and good at copying stuff from superior shitposters like us.

12 676974 2021-06-23

Look at what German "engineering" made during the war.

Just pure 'tism flowing onto the drawing board.

30 RedditorsFartToo 2021-06-23

Rammstein song about this murder when?

20 why_did_he_do_it 2021-06-23

Only need 2 more for a free serial rapist

11 Not_a_robot_serious 2021-06-23

use code "jack d ripper" at ed gein's uncharastic emporium for 10% off your first killer and a free lamp shade

18 fentanyl_peyotl 2021-06-23

Fucking bussy is a gateway drug to cannibalism

15 respaaaaaj 2021-06-23

The germans are revolting

9 Can_The_SRDine 2021-06-23

Against Mutti?

13 S-E-London 2021-06-23

Never trust a German

12 lolcows65 2021-06-23

Are you telliing me that the internet can spread deviant behaviors and its not simply inevitable? What a shock.

9 sgvjosetel1 2021-06-23

gott strafe g*rmans

9 catsundae666 2021-06-23

One similarity, though, is that all three cannibals were respected in their public lives. In fact, Meiwes and Guenzel were downright popular in their communities.

well, I bet the americans will be disappointed as they love portraying serial killers and other deviants as scary introverts.

11 Can_The_SRDine 2021-06-23