no matter how bad you feel you can always visit that sub and feel better that you're not a 30 year old manchild screaming at his parents to wipe his ass for him because his mum shat him out without his consent
I don't mind working hard to further my personal goals, but for me working a wageslave job would not further my personal goals in a positive way.
More specifically, it would further one goal (having my own house) at the great expense of sacrificing another goal (to be comfy and not suffer wageslavery) which is more important to me than having my own house.
Realistically, we can't all get everything we want out of life. We have to weigh the pros and cons of what we do and choose the path that is best for us. For me, at least so far, the best path is being NEET.
I understand man that's totally cool. Do you think you're prepared for the future at all? I mean, for when something comes up and you need to be put together enough to handle things, do you think you'll be able to handle things?
Do you think you're prepared for the future at all? I mean, for when something comes up and you need to be put together enough to handle things, do you think you'll be able to handle things?
If being able to handle things means getting and working a full-time job? Probably not. Other than that I'm a very functional person. I'm certainly not incapable of doing jobs either, but that doesn't mean someone would hire me, or that I wouldn't get fired for being too slow, being socially awkward, being late due to sleep issues, taking half hour restroom breaks because of IBS, having panic attacks, etc. The actual work is far less of a problem than the process of actually getting a job and then living up to the bossman's high standards.
What kind of emergency? I could call for help if something happened to my parents, or drive someone to a hospital/doctor. I can't imagine there being much else I could do to help someone in any emergency situation.
having the wherewithal to put together a birthday party
I'd rather not have any birthday parties. After my parents are gone I'll probably have minimal contact with anyone, and when I die my body will probably go undiscovered until the house gets foreclosed on or whatever.
My posts here on reddit are probably the most extensive record of my existence that will ever be. I don't think I'm cool or interesting enough to be worthy of being a blogger or YouTuber.
I am OP. It went little wilder than I wanted haha. Its understandable that mentally disabled people or people with chronic physical condition live with their parents almost whole life, however based on posts there and replies to post of mine I find majority of them are just too lazy, so they manipulate with only ones who trully love them for own benefits. Thats propably most disgusting thing anyone can do.
They should have thought about it first and realized not everyone can function in this matrix. Not all of us are cut out for this bullshit wagecuckery and never ending slow dragging days of repetitive tasks. We want to be free and not be robots.
Clearly forcing your parents to do this so you don’t have to is the only logical solution here
It's the only moral solution because the parents chose to create the child and force them to be here to begin with, while the child never agreed to exist let alone be a wageslave for decades. The parents are the ones who do the forcing. A person should not be held to a contract that they never once agreed to.
That's completely illogical. That's the equivalent of saying that if a person is kidnapped and held against their will, and eventually develops Stockholm syndrome and no longer attempts to escape, that there was never any kidnapping or crime committed in the first place. Taking one's own life is generally very difficult and comes with a huge risk of not dying but instead increasing one's suffering, compared to never being born which is void of both effort and risk. They are not in any way equal.
It’s really not as hard to kill yourself as you think. And being born is not analogous to being kidnapped, it’s analogous to being invited to a party that you are free to leave at any time you wish.
It's not analogous to an invitation because a person is brought into life without accepting any invitation. To me, the lack of consent makes it wrong. Being free to leave afterwards (which I still argue is not actually free, but difficult and risky) doesn't make the lack of consent to be brought there to begin with okay.
Yeah I guess you’re right that it’s incorrect to call it an invitation if you had no option to decline it. Maybe a surprise party is a closer analogy (a surprise party that lots of people think really sucks). Would you be more okay with the whole arrangement if effective and reliable suicide methods were made available to all? At least then the people who happen to enjoy life wouldn’t be denied the chance to experience it.
The surprise party analogy works. A lot of people do hate surprise parties, myself included.
I am 100% in favor of euthanasia programs being available to people, and I would also like to see a complete abolishment of anyone being imprisoned in hospitals for "being a danger to themselves", because people should be free to do what they want with their own lives as long as they're not harming anybody else.
While that would be a significant improvement to the situation, I would still always argue that procreation is wrong in the first place. People who never exist can't actually be "denied" anything because they can't miss existing if they never existed, but when people are created there will always be some who suffer greatly.
yes your mum totally should have asked your dad's balls and sperm for consent before she shat you out
antinatalism is the most manchild thinking in existence, at some point you have to take up responsibility for your own life and not keep sucking off your mum's teats when you're 30+ years old
anyway srspost over do you want some piss with that shart in your mouth 💦💦
I'm not, but I do agree that it's wrong to breed other living creatures as well. I just don't live up to my own moral standards in this regard and I admit that.
I am likely autistic and suffer from extreme sensory sensitivity, including my taste buds, and it's very difficult for me to eat anything outside of a select few types of food that don't bother me. It's something I continually look to improve, but there's only so much I can do.
How tf is eating beans and rice more triggering than eating literal veins, tendons, ligaments, tumors, and abscesses that are definitely in your tendies
Well I don’t like all meats either. I generally prefer ground meats because the texture is consistent. I actually like rice but I can’t eat it any more because it sometimes gets stuck in my esophagus.
Also, it is possible to eat meat without going against antinatalism at all, as long as the creatures are hunted rather than bred. The mass breeding of creatures for consumption is largely a societal problem that came with overpopulation.
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25 Mayos_side 2020-07-23
Oh this is an instant sub for me.
14 sh1tpo5ta 2020-07-23
no matter how bad you feel you can always visit that sub and feel better that you're not a 30 year old manchild screaming at his parents to wipe his ass for him because his mum shat him out without his consent
3 Mayos_side 2020-07-23
BRB gonna go feel some meaning derived from hard work that furthers my personal goals.
3 OldToyTrains 2020-07-23
I don't mind working hard to further my personal goals, but for me working a wageslave job would not further my personal goals in a positive way.
More specifically, it would further one goal (having my own house) at the great expense of sacrificing another goal (to be comfy and not suffer wageslavery) which is more important to me than having my own house.
Realistically, we can't all get everything we want out of life. We have to weigh the pros and cons of what we do and choose the path that is best for us. For me, at least so far, the best path is being NEET.
1 Mayos_side 2020-07-23
I understand man that's totally cool. Do you think you're prepared for the future at all? I mean, for when something comes up and you need to be put together enough to handle things, do you think you'll be able to handle things?
2 OldToyTrains 2020-07-23
If being able to handle things means getting and working a full-time job? Probably not. Other than that I'm a very functional person. I'm certainly not incapable of doing jobs either, but that doesn't mean someone would hire me, or that I wouldn't get fired for being too slow, being socially awkward, being late due to sleep issues, taking half hour restroom breaks because of IBS, having panic attacks, etc. The actual work is far less of a problem than the process of actually getting a job and then living up to the bossman's high standards.
1 Mayos_side 2020-07-23
I mean like being reliable in an emergency or having the wherewithal to put together a birthday party.
1 OldToyTrains 2020-07-23
What kind of emergency? I could call for help if something happened to my parents, or drive someone to a hospital/doctor. I can't imagine there being much else I could do to help someone in any emergency situation.
I'd rather not have any birthday parties. After my parents are gone I'll probably have minimal contact with anyone, and when I die my body will probably go undiscovered until the house gets foreclosed on or whatever.
1 Mayos_side 2020-07-23
Could you at least keep a youtube channel documenting your life?
1 OldToyTrains 2020-07-23
My posts here on reddit are probably the most extensive record of my existence that will ever be. I don't think I'm cool or interesting enough to be worthy of being a blogger or YouTuber.
16 pot_head_pixie 2020-07-23
Lol all of your time is free time.
Gee wiz i wonder why? Owning your parents by proving them right.
10 Sol916 2020-07-23
I'd say they have the mentality of children, but even children have better ideals and drive than those leeches.
7 MacAndShits 2020-07-23
He's leeching off his parents though, not millionaires.
7 Sedli02 2020-07-23
I am OP. It went little wilder than I wanted haha. Its understandable that mentally disabled people or people with chronic physical condition live with their parents almost whole life, however based on posts there and replies to post of mine I find majority of them are just too lazy, so they manipulate with only ones who trully love them for own benefits. Thats propably most disgusting thing anyone can do.
5 sh1tpo5ta 2020-07-23
most of them are either lazy or are unwilling to fight their mental conditions
working sucks fat ass but its still far better than rotting away and playing games / jacking off all day
2 OldToyTrains 2020-07-23
That's just like, your opinion, man. I'll take the latter any day.
2 sh1tpo5ta 2020-07-23
sharts in ur mouth
here's your dinner, parasite, eat it all up 😋😋😋
2 OldToyTrains 2020-07-23
Did that make you feel better?
2 sh1tpo5ta 2020-07-23
yes my tummy feels much better 😄😄
I can shart on your more but you gotta pay up sweaty 💅
oh wait you can't afford it AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAVAHAHAGAHAHAHAHAHA
1 OldToyTrains 2020-07-23
You're certainly living up to your username.
1 sh1tpo5ta 2020-07-23
you're not though 😢
you should rename yourself as OldIncelParasite 😎😎
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7 pugba 2020-07-23
🤔🤔🤔
5 pugba 2020-07-23
I thought being a neet was a meme, these people actually exist?
3 PRFaggleSnake 2020-07-23
I legit thought they only existed in anime
1 Outrageous_Algae6112 2020-07-23
Wait, you guys were pretending??
3 bunnyday_ 2020-07-23
Clearly forcing your parents to do this so you don’t have to is the only logical solution here
1 OldToyTrains 2020-07-23
It's the only moral solution because the parents chose to create the child and force them to be here to begin with, while the child never agreed to exist let alone be a wageslave for decades. The parents are the ones who do the forcing. A person should not be held to a contract that they never once agreed to.
2 Metal_Charizard 2020-07-23
Your ongoing choice not to kill yourself constitutes consent to having been born and to remain alive.
1 OldToyTrains 2020-07-23
That's completely illogical. That's the equivalent of saying that if a person is kidnapped and held against their will, and eventually develops Stockholm syndrome and no longer attempts to escape, that there was never any kidnapping or crime committed in the first place. Taking one's own life is generally very difficult and comes with a huge risk of not dying but instead increasing one's suffering, compared to never being born which is void of both effort and risk. They are not in any way equal.
2 Metal_Charizard 2020-07-23
It’s really not as hard to kill yourself as you think. And being born is not analogous to being kidnapped, it’s analogous to being invited to a party that you are free to leave at any time you wish.
1 OldToyTrains 2020-07-23
It's not analogous to an invitation because a person is brought into life without accepting any invitation. To me, the lack of consent makes it wrong. Being free to leave afterwards (which I still argue is not actually free, but difficult and risky) doesn't make the lack of consent to be brought there to begin with okay.
1 Metal_Charizard 2020-07-23
Yeah I guess you’re right that it’s incorrect to call it an invitation if you had no option to decline it. Maybe a surprise party is a closer analogy (a surprise party that lots of people think really sucks). Would you be more okay with the whole arrangement if effective and reliable suicide methods were made available to all? At least then the people who happen to enjoy life wouldn’t be denied the chance to experience it.
2 OldToyTrains 2020-07-23
The surprise party analogy works. A lot of people do hate surprise parties, myself included.
I am 100% in favor of euthanasia programs being available to people, and I would also like to see a complete abolishment of anyone being imprisoned in hospitals for "being a danger to themselves", because people should be free to do what they want with their own lives as long as they're not harming anybody else.
While that would be a significant improvement to the situation, I would still always argue that procreation is wrong in the first place. People who never exist can't actually be "denied" anything because they can't miss existing if they never existed, but when people are created there will always be some who suffer greatly.
1 sh1tpo5ta 2020-07-23
yes your mum totally should have asked your dad's balls and sperm for consent before she shat you out
antinatalism is the most manchild thinking in existence, at some point you have to take up responsibility for your own life and not keep sucking off your mum's teats when you're 30+ years old
anyway srspost over do you want some piss with that shart in your mouth 💦💦
1 OldToyTrains 2020-07-23
The point is that consent is impossible to get, and therefore it's always immoral.
Or I could just... not, and keep being a NEET for the rest of my life.
1 bunnyday_ 2020-07-23
Yet I bet $100 you’re not vegan lol
1 OldToyTrains 2020-07-23
I'm not, but I do agree that it's wrong to breed other living creatures as well. I just don't live up to my own moral standards in this regard and I admit that.
I am likely autistic and suffer from extreme sensory sensitivity, including my taste buds, and it's very difficult for me to eat anything outside of a select few types of food that don't bother me. It's something I continually look to improve, but there's only so much I can do.
1 bunnyday_ 2020-07-23
How tf is eating beans and rice more triggering than eating literal veins, tendons, ligaments, tumors, and abscesses that are definitely in your tendies
1 OldToyTrains 2020-07-23
Well I don’t like all meats either. I generally prefer ground meats because the texture is consistent. I actually like rice but I can’t eat it any more because it sometimes gets stuck in my esophagus.
Also, it is possible to eat meat without going against antinatalism at all, as long as the creatures are hunted rather than bred. The mass breeding of creatures for consumption is largely a societal problem that came with overpopulation.
1 Grodbert 2020-07-23
Is this what the cool kids refer to as "cope"?