I've said this many times before, but post-~2014 SRD is genuinely the worst community on this entire website. I have never seen a group with a greater combination of smug self-righteousness and awful takes.
Yeah, the problem with the movie is that Muslims are depicted in a bad light...and not, y'know, the fact that children are being sexually exploited.
Okay SRDines.
I love that the biggest problem stinky SRDine like people have with the flick is that it steps on the feet of Muslims. It's fucking hilarious how left wing progressives out of all people could get baited into defending a facist like ideology that warships a warlord with pedophilic tendencies.
That's makes me think. If Rightoids just converted to Islam which holds all their beliefs etc anyway, could they get away with undermining society?
According to Umar Ahmed Usmani, in Surah Al-Nisa, it is said that the guardian of the orphans should keep testing them, until they reach the age of marriage, before returning their property (4:6). From this scholars have concluded that the Quran sets a minimum age of marriage which is at least puberty. Since the approval of the girl has a legal standing, she cannot be a minor.
Hisham bin Urwah is the main narrator of this hadith. His life is divided into two periods: in 131A.H. the Madani period ended, and the Iraqi period started, when Hisham was 71 years old. Hafiz Zehbi has spoken about Hisham’s loss of memory in his later period. His students in Madina, Imam Malik and Imam Abu Hanifah, do not mention this hadith. Imam Malik and the people of Madina criticised him for his Iraqi hadiths.
All the narrators of this hadith are Iraqis who had heard it from Hisham. Allama Kandhulvi says that the words spoken in connection with Hazrat Aisha’s age were tissa ashara, meaning 19, when Hisham only heard (or remembered), tissa, meaning nine. Maulana Usmani thinks this change was purposely and maliciously made later.
Historian Ibn Ishaq in his Sirat Rasul Allah has given a list of the people who accepted Islam in the first year of the proclamation of Islam, in which Hazrat Aisha’s name is mentioned as Abu Bakr’s “little daughter Aisha”. If we accept Hisham’s calculations, she was not even born at that time.
Some time after the death of the Prophet’s first wife, Hazrat Khadija, Khawla suggested to the Prophet that he get married again, to a bikrun, referring to Hazrat Aisha (Musnad Ahmed). In Arabic bikrun is used for an unmarried girl who has crossed the age of puberty and is of marriageable age. The word cannot be used for a six-year-old girl.
Some scholars think that Hazrat Aisha was married off so early because in Arabia girls mature at an early age. But this was not a common custom of the Arabs at that time. According to Allama Kandhulvi, there is no such case on record either before or after Islam. Neither has this ever been promoted as a Sunnah of the Prophet. The Prophet married off his daughters Fatima at 21 and Ruquiyya at 23. Besides, Hazrat Abu Bakr, Aisha’s father, married off his eldest daughter Asma at the age of 26.
Hazrat Aisha narrates that she was present on the battlefield at the Battle of Badar (Muslim). This leads one to conclude that Hazrat Aisha moved into the Prophet’s house in 1 A.H. But a nine-year-old could not have been taken on a rough and risky military mission.
In 2 A.H, the Prophet refused to take boys of less than 15 years of age to the battle of Uhud. Would he have allowed a 10-year-old girl to accompany him? But Anas reported that he saw Aisha and Umme Sulaim carrying goatskins full of water and serving it to the soldiers (Bukhari). Umme Sulaim and Umme Ammara, the other women present at Uhud, were both strong, mature women whose duties were the lifting of the dead and injured, treating their wounds, carrying water in heavy goatskins, supplying ammunition and even taking up the sword.
Hazrat Aisha used the kunniat, the title derived from the name of a child, of Umme Abdullah after her nephew and adopted son. If she was six when her nikah was performed, she would have been only eight years his senior, hardly making him eligible for adoption. Also, a little girl could not have given up on ever having her own child and used an adopted child’s name for her kunniat.
Hazrat Aisha’s nephew Urwah once remarked that he was not surprised about her amazing knowledge of Islamic law, poetry and history because she was the wife of the Prophet and the daughter of Abu Bakr. If she was eight when her father migrated, when did she learn poetry and history from him?
There is consensus that Hazrat Aisha was 10 years younger than her elder sister Asma, whose age at the time of the hijrah, or migration to Madina, was about 28. It can be concluded that Hazrat Aisha was about 18 years old at migration. On her moving to the Prophet’s house, she was a young woman at 21. Hisham is the single narrator of the hadith whose authenticity is challenged, for it does not correlate with the many historical facts of the time.
There's a difference between talking about the effects of somebody's actions and talking about their character and motives. Obviously, Trump's actions have (thus far) had less bad effects than Hitler's. But what the original poster was saying, and what I think is hard to dispute, is that Hitler was a better man than Trump.
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5 MotherGrapefruit1 2020-08-21
Why do those pricks always act so smug and superior? They're just as bad as everybody else
1 jwfallinker 2020-08-21
I've said this many times before, but post-~2014 SRD is genuinely the worst community on this entire website. I have never seen a group with a greater combination of smug self-righteousness and awful takes.
4 Angrygrape1337Reborn 2020-08-21
Yeah, the problem with the movie is that Muslims are depicted in a bad light...and not, y'know, the fact that children are being sexually exploited.
Okay SRDines.
2 Apprehensive-Quote83 2020-08-21
I love that the biggest problem stinky SRDine like people have with the flick is that it steps on the feet of Muslims. It's fucking hilarious how left wing progressives out of all people could get baited into defending a facist like ideology that warships a warlord with pedophilic tendencies.
That's makes me think. If Rightoids just converted to Islam which holds all their beliefs etc anyway, could they get away with undermining society?
3 sous_vide_pizza 2020-08-21
Bismarck Mohammed 🙏
2 Detective_Fallacy 2020-08-21
To lead the Jihadmachine,
Muhammad and the Kriegsmarine
1 TrewishJanny 2020-08-21
Fatwah und Euher
2 EzraPoundsClone 2020-08-21
Nah, they'd still have the original sin of being white. Whitey's gotta pay.
2 Apprehensive-Quote83 2020-08-21
This but unironically
1 Rimjob_World 2020-08-21
R*ghtoid spotted.
1 Apprehensive-Quote83 2020-08-21
You don't have to be a Rightoid to know about Aisha.
1 Rimjob_World 2020-08-21
According to Umar Ahmed Usmani, in Surah Al-Nisa, it is said that the guardian of the orphans should keep testing them, until they reach the age of marriage, before returning their property (4:6). From this scholars have concluded that the Quran sets a minimum age of marriage which is at least puberty. Since the approval of the girl has a legal standing, she cannot be a minor.
Hisham bin Urwah is the main narrator of this hadith. His life is divided into two periods: in 131A.H. the Madani period ended, and the Iraqi period started, when Hisham was 71 years old. Hafiz Zehbi has spoken about Hisham’s loss of memory in his later period. His students in Madina, Imam Malik and Imam Abu Hanifah, do not mention this hadith. Imam Malik and the people of Madina criticised him for his Iraqi hadiths.
All the narrators of this hadith are Iraqis who had heard it from Hisham. Allama Kandhulvi says that the words spoken in connection with Hazrat Aisha’s age were tissa ashara, meaning 19, when Hisham only heard (or remembered), tissa, meaning nine. Maulana Usmani thinks this change was purposely and maliciously made later.
Historian Ibn Ishaq in his Sirat Rasul Allah has given a list of the people who accepted Islam in the first year of the proclamation of Islam, in which Hazrat Aisha’s name is mentioned as Abu Bakr’s “little daughter Aisha”. If we accept Hisham’s calculations, she was not even born at that time.
Some time after the death of the Prophet’s first wife, Hazrat Khadija, Khawla suggested to the Prophet that he get married again, to a bikrun, referring to Hazrat Aisha (Musnad Ahmed). In Arabic bikrun is used for an unmarried girl who has crossed the age of puberty and is of marriageable age. The word cannot be used for a six-year-old girl.
Some scholars think that Hazrat Aisha was married off so early because in Arabia girls mature at an early age. But this was not a common custom of the Arabs at that time. According to Allama Kandhulvi, there is no such case on record either before or after Islam. Neither has this ever been promoted as a Sunnah of the Prophet. The Prophet married off his daughters Fatima at 21 and Ruquiyya at 23. Besides, Hazrat Abu Bakr, Aisha’s father, married off his eldest daughter Asma at the age of 26.
Hazrat Aisha narrates that she was present on the battlefield at the Battle of Badar (Muslim). This leads one to conclude that Hazrat Aisha moved into the Prophet’s house in 1 A.H. But a nine-year-old could not have been taken on a rough and risky military mission.
In 2 A.H, the Prophet refused to take boys of less than 15 years of age to the battle of Uhud. Would he have allowed a 10-year-old girl to accompany him? But Anas reported that he saw Aisha and Umme Sulaim carrying goatskins full of water and serving it to the soldiers (Bukhari). Umme Sulaim and Umme Ammara, the other women present at Uhud, were both strong, mature women whose duties were the lifting of the dead and injured, treating their wounds, carrying water in heavy goatskins, supplying ammunition and even taking up the sword.
Hazrat Aisha used the kunniat, the title derived from the name of a child, of Umme Abdullah after her nephew and adopted son. If she was six when her nikah was performed, she would have been only eight years his senior, hardly making him eligible for adoption. Also, a little girl could not have given up on ever having her own child and used an adopted child’s name for her kunniat.
Hazrat Aisha’s nephew Urwah once remarked that he was not surprised about her amazing knowledge of Islamic law, poetry and history because she was the wife of the Prophet and the daughter of Abu Bakr. If she was eight when her father migrated, when did she learn poetry and history from him?
There is consensus that Hazrat Aisha was 10 years younger than her elder sister Asma, whose age at the time of the hijrah, or migration to Madina, was about 28. It can be concluded that Hazrat Aisha was about 18 years old at migration. On her moving to the Prophet’s house, she was a young woman at 21. Hisham is the single narrator of the hadith whose authenticity is challenged, for it does not correlate with the many historical facts of the time.
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2 BasedDeptMGMT- 2020-08-21
There is a big sardine-AHS overlap, so this isn’t shocking
2 grogocean 2020-08-21
Twerking = free spirited movement
LMAO
3 CapeshittersCOPE 2020-08-21
Keep in mind they don’t think they’re pedos they think they’re minor attracted persons. Or retards as I call them
2 MikeStoklasaSimp 2020-08-21
SRDines don't deserve a crumb of happiness
1 SnapshillBot 2020-08-21
There's a difference between talking about the effects of somebody's actions and talking about their character and motives. Obviously, Trump's actions have (thus far) had less bad effects than Hitler's. But what the original poster was saying, and what I think is hard to dispute, is that Hitler was a better man than Trump.
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1 a-wild-autist 2020-08-21
venn diagram between AHS, SRD, and pedos is big circle
1 BogSUMKA 2020-08-21
OMG SHUT DOWN CHILD BEAUTY PAGENTS THEY ARE SO CREEPY
OH IS THAT A CHILD NEGRESS TWERKING SO PROGRESSIVE
1 S-K_123 2020-08-21
SRDines are fishmen