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Thread: BANNERS AND SIDEBAR IMAGES NEEDED!

MUST BE POLITICAL, BUT NO COHERENT MESSAGE BEHIND THE POLITICAL TOPICS IS NEEDED.

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:marseymanlet: LLM speaks at the trump trial
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/r/neoliberal knows who's forming gangs to assault gays in France: the far right

!neolibs

I hate that my brain thinks this way now but the free part of the article doesn't say, but so much of the anti lgbt and antisemitism in Europe seems to come from immigrants, were they ethnically French?

Remember to hate yourself if you notice basic patterns !nooticers

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https://old.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/1d0vyh7/leaked_national_service_plans_dont_rule_out/?sort=controversial


Leaked National Service plans don't rule out arresting teens for not taking part

Tory plans to bring back mandatory national service are in chaos after a leaked briefing paper suggested young people could be arrested for not taking part.

Rishi Sunak has announced that all 18-year-olds will be forced to take part in his proposed new programme. Young people would be given a choice between a full-time placement in the armed forces for 12 months or spending one weekend a month for a year "volunteering," in their community.

The Mirror has seen an internal Tory briefing paper on the policy that does not rule out arresting youngsters if they fail to take part.

In a Q&A section of the document, it asks: “Will you arrest people who don't comply?” The response is: “It is right that those who contribute to our system are duly rewarded, and those who refuse receive none of the benefits. The Royal Commission will explore an appropriate incentives regime.”

Ministers have attempted to quickly backtrack as the policy descended into shambles this morning. Home Secretary James Cleverly insisted 18-year-olds would not be sent to jail if they refused. Asked on Sky News whether the consequences of resisting the compulsory scheme could involve a prison term, he said: "No, there's going to be no criminal sanction. There's no one going to jail over this."

The Conservatives have said they would establish a Royal Commission bringing in expertise from across the military and civil society to establish the details of what they described as the "bold" national service programme. The party said this commission would be tasked with bringing forward a proposal for how to ensure the first pilot is open for applications in September 2025.

After that, it would seek to introduce a new "National Service Act" to make the measures compulsory by the end of the next Parliament, the party said. It estimates the programme will cost £2.5 billion a year by the end of the decade and plans to fund £1 billion through plans to "crack down on tax avoidance and evasion".

The remaining £1.5 billion will be paid for with money previously used for the UK Shared Prosperity Fund (UKSPF), which is a package to support charities and community groups, the Tories said.

The Prime Minister said: "This is a great country but generations of young people have not had the opportunities or experience they deserve and there are forces trying to divide our society in this increasingly uncertain world. I have a clear plan to address this and secure our future. I will bring in a new model of national service to create a shared sense of purpose among our young people and a renewed sense of pride in our country.

"This new, mandatory national service will provide life-changing opportunities for our young people, offering them the chance to learn real world skills, do new things and contribute to their community and our country."

Opposition critics have dismissed the plans as unserious. Labour pointed out that David Cameron introduced a similar scheme - the National Citizen Service - when he was prime minister. Lord Cameron's announcement had no military component to it, instead encouraging youngsters to take part in activities such as outdoor education-style courses as part of his "Big Society" initiative.

A Labour spokesman said: "This is not a plan - it's a review which could cost billions and is only needed because the Tories hollowed out the armed forces to their smallest size since Napoleon. Britain has had enough of the Conservatives, who are bankrupt of ideas, and have no plans to end 14 years of chaos. It's time to turn the page and rebuild Britain with Labour."

A party source mocked the plans, saying that under the Tories it would be “maths to 18 and then straight off to war”.


!britbongs

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Libertarian party's leading nominee has a libertarian moment (good kind) :marseyrastawereback:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17167567013457177.webp

https://media.giphy.com/media/l2SpTVR5S9WcMqZuo/giphy.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1716756773492363.webp

Smartest contrarian thinks that "you shouldn't get way too high to give a speech before your speech" = against all recreational drug use.

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Hillary 2024

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https://old.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/1d05v27/labour_would_allow_16yearolds_to_vote_in_future/?sort=controversial


Labour would allow 16-year-olds to vote in future general elections

Party intends to lower voting age within first year if it wins power on July 4

Labour is looking to introduce votes for 16 and 17-year-olds in its first year in government if it wins the election.

The party is closely studying how Scotland and Wales lowered the voting age and believes there is no reason why lowering the national voting age for general elections would need to take longer.

Sir Keir Starmer pledged to extend the franchise to younger voters in September with no indication of how quickly the policy would be implemented should it win the election. Party sources now say that while there is yet no commitment that the policy will be in the King's Speech, it is nonetheless expected to be enacted quickly. “I would be extremely surprised if it wasn't in the King's Speech,” one said, describing the legislation needed as “extremely straightforward”.

About 1.5 million people under the age of 18 would be given the vote in general elections under plans agreed by Labour in the final draft of its national policy forum. It would be the largest change to the electorate since 1969, when the voting age was reduced from 21 to 18.

The party is looking to the example of Scotland and Wales and believes a similar time frame for enactment is possible. Scotland has already lowered the voting age for local and Scottish parliament elections to 16 and Wales has done so for local and Welsh parliament elections.

The process of lowering the age in both was swift. In Scotland, it took less than six months from Scotland being handed the power to reduce the age to the passage of legislation. Researchers at Sheffield and Edinburgh have found that the move resulted in young voters being more likely to turn out as they grew older.

In Wales, where the Labour-run government has been consulted by the party in Westminster on how a nationwide extension could work, the two pieces of legislation both passed no more than a year after being introduced.

[article continued]

The policy is likely to benefit Labour in future elections. In a recent YouGov poll for The Times, Labour commanded a 25-point lead over the Tories, with the party on 46 per cent of the vote and the Conservatives on 21 per cent. Among 18 to 24-year-olds that gap widened, with 54 per cent planning to vote Labour at the next election compared to just 9 per cent for the Tories.

One senior Labour source said: “It [the policy] has the double benefit of not costing very much to do but of helping secure a second Labour term.”

It is not clear how strong an electoral advantage the policy would be for Labour. YouGov's latest MRP poll, conducted in March 2024, gave Labour a 154-seat majority with the party winning 403 seats to the Tories' 155.

Yet an analysis by The Times of population data suggested that if 16 and 17-year-olds were allowed to vote — and they voted in a similar way as 18 to 24-year-olds — it could result in an additional eight seats flipping from the Conservatives to Labour in England alone. This could increase Labour's potential majority to at least 170.

The seats where 16 and 17-year-olds could make a difference are predominantly in southern England, and include Aldershot, Aylesbury, Bridgwater, Frome and East Somerset, Hornchurch and Upminster, Mid Derbyshire, North East Hertfordshire, and Sittingbourne & Sheppey.

Patrick English, director of political analytics at YouGov, said: “We would generally expect that lowering the voting age would be electorally advantageous to Labour, as younger people are significantly more likely to back them over the Conservatives, or indeed any other party.”

The typical 18-year-old was almost ten times more likely to back Labour than the Conservatives, he said, and this would be expected to be similar for 16 and 17-year-olds.

“However, we also know that young people are among the most unlikely voter groups to actually turn out. So, any advantage Labour have in terms of raw support among this potential new block of young voters will be significantly reduced at the ballot box by their low participation rates,” English added.

Florence Eshalomi, the shadow minister for local government, said: “Fourteen years of chaos under the Conservatives has left many feeling ignored and left out by the political system. Labour is committed to restoring a sense of trust and national pride and that includes by strengthening our democracy.

“Our elections are built on the basic principle that those who contribute to our country should have a say in how it is governed. Yet 16 and 17-year-olds are still blocked from voting in English elections.

“It's time to turn the page on the eroding of our democracy and give the next generation a chance to help shape their future.”

!britbongs

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Bongs would rather force you to house strangers in your spare bedroom than build new housing :marseybong:

!neolibs !britbongs

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Former South Africa President Jacob Zuma wants to create an upper house for African nobility :platyking:

South Africa is one of a handful of countries along with the United Kingdom that is significantly poorer than it was a decade ago: its GDP per capita has declined from $8,800 in 2012 to $6,190 in 2023.

!britbongs

An incredible 47 per cent of South Africans rely on social grants as their primary source of income, a measure of both the relative success of the government's welfare programme and the economic disasters of the past decade.

MK's platform is a mix of Zuma's sense of personal victimhood, Zulu nationalism, opposition to constitutional rule, nationalising strategic industries, ending South Africa's green energy policies, the creation of a new upper house for indigenous kings and queens (a decolonial House of Lords), as well as the expropriation of all land without compensation by the state and for it to be under the custody of traditional leaders.

@kaamrev @sneedman !africans

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:marseysoylentgrin: In your opinion, why has Trump/MAGA been so normalized? - r/neoliberal :!marseysoylentgrin:

Reasonable response sitting at -3 at time of reporting.

With a reply of it's a good thing, chud.

I will pay 2000DC, cash on the barrelhead, for gigacute twink /u/Independent-Low-2398 's permaban.

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Jeremy Corbyn has been expelled from the Labour Party : LabourUK
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US Independence? :marseystonetoss:
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