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:marseyyinzer: philosophy

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John

What's up with the Gospel of John? It doesn't fit in. Why do certain texts align more with Gnostic Christian ones found in the Nag Hammadi library, that aren't Canon? Why did Paul mention the Pleroma? Why did you build your religion on burnt books? Why do you purposefully keep people in shadows? Why do you continue to lie to this day? Why are you not actually interested in the life of Jesus, and only in the heritage of your blood sucking, greedy church? Do you know what Baptism is? Do you know John?

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https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohhwkKBzcVk4PV5ao/giphy.webp

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Correction, I was wrong about something.

I misrepresented Jesus as the beast in the book of revelations.

https://www.jesus8880.com/gematria/topic_essays/magic_square_sun.htm

I needed to provide a correction. The beast in revelations is סורת, the beast in the book of revelations. Also known as the Black Sun.

Lucifer helped me learn an important lesson, that I can fall victim to illusion. I'm not blaming my illusions and misconceptions on an external source, they came from me, they were brought to the surface from my own psyche.

Mark 7:15

There is nothing from outside of the man, that going into him can defile him; but the things which proceed out of the man are those that defile the man.

Lucifer is my teacher and my friend, my patron and my mentor and I still view him as a friend.

Rudolf Steiner, famous occultist and esotericist stated "Lucifer encourages the tendency in human beings towards expansiveness, inflation, egotism, sensuality, passion, and ungrounded spirituality; Lucifer is the being who tells us that we are like the gods, knowing both good and evil" and this is my experience working with him.

Here is the thing you need to understand about evil, it comes from you. Lucifer didn't lead me astray, he brought it to the surface so I could acknowledge it, so I could purify it, and I learned an important lesson and placed myself above him and placed my trust in God. I wasn't lead astray. I realized the evil within and I shined light on it, my heart is still pure.

I'm now going to be working with סורת, who is a demon that even S. Connolly who is all "demons are love and light" said that his energy needs to be tempered.

https://arsmagine.com/others/sorath/

Wish me luck!

!actualbiofoids

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One thing I've wondered about Church Christianity is when the words or Paul contridict with the teachings of Jesus, they seem to reject Jesus and take the words of Paul?

Jesus taught to sinners. I would argue that Judas wasn't a great example of someone who was free of sin.

It's too easy just to be like "Oh, Paul wrote the word of God" when he wrote his letters so Paul is equivalent to Jesus, and I think it is a logical error. We might as well be building altars and worshipping Paul if we are just going to reject Jesus.

My personal opinion is that Paul corrupted Christianity and led the religion astray.

Is Paul equivalent to Jesus? If not then how do you explain the many many contradictions between their writing and teachings? Either the word of Jesus was the word or God or the word of Paul was? They can't both be true.

This is why I reject Paul's writings almost entirely in my path, and I definately don't do what the Church does and prioritize above the teachings of Jesus when they do contridict.

This thread I am looking for a respectful debate.

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If only Peter Steele lived long enough to devote more of his life to Christ, but he did enough in his later life for Him and through Him he overcame his addictions and preached the sanctity of unborn children and encouraged the protection of their lives.

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I did my first rosary as trappykong suggested, then I did a tarot card readings which suggested that I should still keep on with my work with demons because my incident with Lucifer was a misunderstanding and I have emotional baggage I have to work through and shed and demons are good at bringing it up to the psyche.

I think the virgin Mary is encouraging me to keep working with demons, so I can shed my baggage, I'm looking for advice for people who work with the Mother of Heaven.

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if it were any good, i wouldve watched the cam print. since it didnt, it isnt. in fact im lying, i havent even watched it cuz i dont care. like at all

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whats this about

hi

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The fear of heck.

Back a few years ago when praying to God, I told him directly that if anyone ends up in heck undeservingly which is a concept that I cannot justify with a just and loving God then I would go there myself, since then I have been exploring the truth about the religion and quite frankly, knowing that I am darned does give me to freedom to actually explore the religion and discover the truth about it free of Church dogma.

This is what Catholics believe, Jesus sacrificed himself for our sins and went down to heck, I don't believe or agree with the concept of Heck and if he did, then it's my duty as a Christian to follow Jesus and do the same.

The Crucifixarion reflects the scapegoat ritual in Leviticus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrowing_of_Hell#:~:text=The%20term%20'Harrowing%20of%20Hell,of%20the%20Old%20Testament%20period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scapegoat#:~:text=In%20the%20Bible%2C%20a%20scapegoat,the%20sins%20of%20the%20community.

In the Bible, a scapegoat is one of a pair of kid goats that is released into the wilderness, taking with it all sins and impurities, while the other is sacrificed. The concept first appears in the Book of Leviticus, in which a goat is designated to be cast into the desert to carry away the sins of the community.

Jesus was the scapegoat.

First you should accept that Lucifer and Satan are two different beings, Satan is presented as having goat horns as symbolism because of the scapegoat ritual.

Isaiah 14:12-17

Revelation 22:16

2 Peter 1:19 the word Lucifer is used to refer to Jesus in the Latin Vulgate.

You shouldn't be afraid of heck. The real heck is living your life with the fear of heck.

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17076889523177168.webp

:marseydab:

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:marseylaughpoundfist: Atheists DESTROYED
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I love sola scriptura so much it's unreal
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The word "Lucifer" appears in The Second Epistle of Peter (2 Peter 1:19) in the Latin Vulgate to refer to Jesus. Jesus refers to himself as the Morning Star in revelations.

Why did the Church turn Jesus into the devil?

The church realized that as symbols have effects on the deepest level of the psyche, associating a symbol of higher spiritual truth, knowledge and illumination with the devil would keep people ignorant and easy to control. Essentially the psychological consequence is they associated this symbol of Lucifer used to describe Jesus, and the word of Jesus with the devil and associated higher spiritual knowledge with fear.

The end effect, people are trapped in chains of fear and guilt unable to advance spirituality and looking for answers, not from within, but from an material source which they are afraid to question and can tell them anything making people easy to manipulate.

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Some Lenten reflection

Friends, today's Gospel exposes the pride of the Pharisees and concludes with the prescription of humility. I want to reflect on this virtue.

St. Augustine said that all of us, made from nothing, tend toward nothing. We can see this in our frailty and sin and mortality. St. Paul said, “What do you possess that you have not received? But if you have received it, why are you boasting as if you did not receive it?”

To believe in God is to know these truths. To live them out is to live in the attitude of humility. Thomas Aquinas said humilitas veritas, meaning humility is truth. It is living out the deepest truth of things: God is God, and we are not.

Now, all of this sounds very clear when it's stated in this abstract manner, but man is it hard to live out! In our fallen world, we forget so readily that we are creatures. We start to assume that we are gods, the center of the universe.

The ego becomes a massive monkey on our backs, and it has to be fed and pampered constantly. What a liberation it is to let go of the ego! Do you see why humility is not a degradation, but an elevation?

https://www.wordonfire.org/reflections/lent/

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Weekly Mass Discussion Thread #24

!catholics !christians Lent has begun! I didn't make a thread on Ash Wednesday since it's not a holy day of obligation.

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First Reading

God said to Noah and to his sons with him:

"See, I am now establishing my covenant with you

and your descendants after you

and with every living creature that was with you:

all the birds, and the various tame and wild animals

that were with you and came out of the ark.

I will establish my covenant with you,

that never again shall all bodily creatures be destroyed

by the waters of a flood;

there shall not be another flood to devastate the earth."

God added:

"This is the sign that I am giving for all ages to come,

of the covenant between me and you

and every living creature with you:

I set my bow in the clouds to serve as a sign

of the covenant between me and the earth.

When I bring clouds over the earth,

and the bow appears in the clouds,

I will recall the covenant I have made

between me and you and all living beings,

so that the waters shall never again become a flood

to destroy all mortal beings."

-Genesis 9:8-15

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Responsorial Psalm

R. (cf. 10) Your ways, O Lord, are love and truth to those who keep your covenant.

Your ways, O LORD, make known to me;

teach me your paths,

Guide me in your truth and teach me,

for you are God my savior.

R. Your ways, O Lord, are love and truth to those who keep your covenant.

Remember that your compassion, O LORD,

and your love are from of old.

In your kindness remember me,

because of your goodness, O LORD.

R. Your ways, O Lord, are love and truth to those who keep your covenant.

Good and upright is the LORD,

thus he shows sinners the way.

He guides the humble to justice,

and he teaches the humble his way.

R. Your ways, O Lord, are love and truth to those who keep your covenant.

-Psalms 25:4-5, 6-7, 8-9

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Second Reading

Beloved:

Christ suffered for sins once,

the righteous for the sake of the unrighteous,

that he might lead you to God.

Put to death in the flesh,

he was brought to life in the Spirit.

In it he also went to preach to the spirits in prison,

who had once been disobedient

while God patiently waited in the days of Noah

during the building of the ark,

in which a few persons, eight in all,

were saved through water.

This prefigured baptism, which saves you now.

It is not a removal of dirt from the body

but an appeal to God for a clear conscience,

through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

who has gone into heaven

and is at the right hand of God,

with angels, authorities, and powers subject to him.

-1 Peter 3:18-22

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Verse Before the Gospel

One does not live on bread alone,

but on every word that comes forth from the mouth of God.

Matthew 4:4b

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Gospel

The Spirit drove Jesus out into the desert,

and he remained in the desert for forty days,

tempted by Satan.

He was among wild beasts,

and the angels ministered to him.

After John had been arrested,

Jesus came to Galilee proclaiming the gospel of God:

"This is the time of fulfillment.

The kingdom of God is at hand.

Repent, and believe in the gospel."

-Mark 1:12-25

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Today my priest spoke about how Lent is a time for healing the wounds caused by sin. While Jesus is famous for healing ailments of the body, his true work was healing ailments of the soul. On an unrelated note, I think God's covenant with Noah proves that global warming won't lead to apocalyptic flooding.

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Hole refreshment post.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16852801042433195.webp

The seventh day is upon us, so time for refresh the hole.

No boring wall of text this time. I’ll just use the occasion to ask about, Homily (Homilies?) you get at your church. Are they quite typical, interesting, boring?

In my church they are two priests who lead (not sure if this is the proper term) the mass, and as such give the Homily. One of them does what you expect: explaining the part of scripture just read, and trying to apply it to the world today. Not much to comment on.

The other priest is very fond of anecdotes, from his life and historical ones, sometimes not strongly related to the scripture just read. And while I’m sure they are interesting, there is a problem. He has endurance of an Iron Lung. Standing from his chair is enough for him to run out of breath. That, coupled with the mic quality (trash), and I get around 20% of what he is saying. One thing I know is that he hates Arians very much, probably a saint Nicholas fan.

So, how does it look at your church? I’m curious.


If any non Christians read this, do you have some a similar kind of sermon in your religion? And if you do, what’s your experience with it?

If you are atheist, I don’t know… what teachings did your local scientist impart on you lately?


Anyway, have a nice Saturday everyone.

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