Well you see there be volunteers(para-military) that enforce the law and there be a council(warlord/party elite) that democratically(after it gets ok from the powerful members of the party) decides laws.
How do they think socialist countries will enforce law?
No, you see in my anarchist wonderland the community will enforce the law because everyone will be good for some reason. And the ones who aren't will be judged by a Democratically elected jury, imprisoned by democratically elected prison guards. So there are totally no cops or government or any opressive power structures :)
Yeah. A dedicated team of specially armed people and trained people who are kept in reserve just in case a dangerous situation develops that regular law enforcement could not deal.
If there was only a word for that.
Special Anarchist Activation Team or SWAAT maybe? Gosh if only such a group existed.
This reminds me of a family guy episode where they become anarchist then to maintain order they slowly create a democratic society without realizing it
There are left libertarians and right libertarians. The ones who advocate for supposedly no government are called anarchists, and these are also split between left and right.
Im pretty sure libertarians want to do away with 'the state' as well. Went to r/asklibertarians to see what their solution to not having police is. Apparently you have to be well liked and count on your neighbors for protection. Thats the end goal at least. Pretty much the same as communism. Then again, its just a thought exercise. And everyone ascribes a different definition per convenience.
Left-leaning centrists are actually socialistsfascists
Libertarians are actually anarcho-capitalists fascists
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Socialism and libertarianism is whatever Reddit wants it to be depending on what it believes in. Of course there are police in socialist countries. And the (not absurd) libertarian thinkers want effective public spending as well.
There are people like Michael Albert and Robin Hahnel who are PhD economists and anarchists/libsocs. I haven't met anyone who was openly an anarchist economist personally, but I don't care to hang out with economists in general anyway. It's pretty clear that our ruling ideology is about to change, perhaps substantially, and much of the work of the last few decades will have lost its raison d'etre (supporting the ruling ideology) and will fade into irrelevance. That's happened like half a dozen times in economics already.
lol what a load of nonsense. If you think economists are going to embrace anarchism in any way, shape, or form, you're totally deluded. It's so far from economic mainstream thinking that I find it surprising that you're suggesting you teach economics.
No respected economist has any time for anarchism, nor will they ever. As far as ideologies changing, in the last century, we've seen Austrians fail miserably and cause the great depression, then Keynesianism, then Chicago school. None of them come anywhere near anarchism (other than the laissez-faireness of Freidman, but to call it anarchism would be absurd).
Long story short I hope you're not a real economics teacher and don't actually tell your students anything positive about anarchism.
They seem broadly correct to me. Cops spend most of their time dealing with property crimes, protests, shit like that which anarchists wouldn't need to deal with. A lot of other crime stems directly from people being desperate and poor.
You'll still have crimes of passion and the odd violent psychopath in any society, so you need to deal with that, but there are plenty of models that don't involve cops, an extremely recent invention.
What about theft and damage of personal property as opposed to private property? Or do you make no distinction?
Cops may be a more recent invention, but what proof is there that whatever force preceded them was less prone to violence and more fair in their investigations? Random jungle tribes or similar sized groups excluded.
I'd say if anyone is going to steal your toothbrush or a T-shirt then you can just get another one. But say you were given a locket or something with high emotional value/hard to replace, then I imagine that would need to be adjudicated.
Crime & punishment in an anarchist society is definitely the most difficult topic for me to think and talk about. There are a lot of varying opinions and ideas out there. I would generally say that besides for a community militia to take care of violent murdering types and outsider attacks (I've expounded on that a lot more here), you'd need a system of elders that could deal with family disputes and things like this. The idea of arbitration via wise people in your community (social acceptance being conditional on agreeing to this arbitration) is a very, very old one. Police are not.
I'm skeptical about a community militia thing but that aside you activated some of my almonds with that post. Just on a person to person level I'm not sure who the hell I would trust in a community militia, or even if trusted said militia I couldn't be sure of their competency. I see why you anarchists are so hesitant about the force thing since having a malicious/stupid person with force in that kind of community seems awful.
Think of a community militia a little bit like the Swiss militia. Every adult is trained up and ready to be activated on reasonably short notice, with a rotating substantially smaller group who actually hang around the town hall etc. Or you can look at what the Kurds are doing in Rojava (male and female militias).
i indoctrinate first year econ students with anarchism
Honest question, what kind of class do you teach? An introductory econ class or some interdisciplinary economics/cultural sciences class?
I'd say if anyone is going to steal your toothbrush or a T-shirt then you can just get another one
I think this would lead to a lot of people abusing this system, taking advantage of people's goodwill or their unwillingness to deal with someone constantly stealing their stuff
you'd need a system of elders that could deal with family disputes and things like this.
Wouldn't this create an establishment class filled with old, conservative, traditionalist people? Isn't this the sort of class that anarchists seem to oppose and fight against?
I think this would lead to a lot of people abusing this system, taking advantage of people's goodwill or their unwillingness to deal with someone constantly stealing their stuff
Why? if you can just go get toothbrushes for free then why go to the trouble of swiping used toothbrushes from other people? Sounds stupid to me
Wouldn't this create an establishment class filled with old, conservative, traditionalist people
Conservative and traditionalist aren't bad traits in a good, stable and egalitarian society
What sort of concepts do you go through in your class? Supply and demand curves, opportunity costs, marginal costs, time value of money, utility functions?
They are the opposite of GG; gamers that are SJW. Altough they don't call themselves gamers because they hate them. And they also kinda hate videogames even tough they play them.
Yes, it was created around the same time as GamerGate blowing up and KotakuInAction being formed. They used to talk about normal social justice-y stuff and get angry about video games they didn't like, but as GamerGate faded into obscurity, Ghazi turned into an insane, tranny-circlejerk, socialist parody of itself.
They used to talk about normal social justice-y stuff and get angry about video games they didn't like, but turned into an insane, tranny-circlejerk, socialist parody of itself.
It's about dedicating your life to hating on a hobby you don't even participate in. Add that in with a weird sprinkling of pedofile defense, and you get gghazi!
Jesus there thinking is worst than that of libtards. They want to replace police with helicopters that watch people and a crisis group that cannot use force to stop people. I guess they want them to show up and hold a therapy session with the shooter.
I also love that they think that with the police gone minorities are going to come out on top.
Excuse me friend, have you played the hit game Fallout: New Vegas? You can solve most quests peacefully by just talking to people the right way, so why can't our police do the same thing?
You know, under certain assumptions, that reasoning isn't inherently flawed. If you regard policemen to be foot-soldiers of an evil institution that wages war on you, it is a logical conclusion that neither of them can be "good" as all need to be eliminated. Just like I'm sure there were plenty of German soldiers occupying Poland who were stand-up guys, but I don't feel remotely edgy saying that they all needed to be killed.
Of course the assumptions are a wild exaggeration of the actual situation, but that's not even the real problem with this piece, because you could argue that everyone's experience is subjective.
The real problem is, as always with the kooky left, hypocrisy. If that kang of edge was writing this drivel besieged by feds on his self-sustaining farm and those leftists fucks were running printing machines in some sewer underground to distribute it and read it under dim light-bulbs, they would have some credibility in their "enemies of the system" posturing. Meanwhile most of them are probably on at least one form of government assistance and enjoy a stable and safe life thanks to the sacrifice of their brave local officers. Seriously, this LARPing is getting out of control.
Shit yeah. Even Marx acknowledged that capitalism was the best for doing rad shit/industrializing. He was just mad about how many people tended to get fucked over in the process. Like maybe now that we put a man on the moon we should try to do something about the 13,000,000 kids in America who don't have enough food to eat.
I mean, that's one individual accomplishment, but it's not the greatest accomplishment ever. What about "first man made satellite" or "first space station" or even "first modular space station." That'd be the Mir. I'd argue that last "first" is the most important, as the majority of our current manned operations in space deal with a modular space station.
Bullshit. LEO is much less of scientific than landing people on the moon. Orbit is just chucking something up at the right speed. Landing on the moon required getting to the moon, landing a craft on the moon, having people explore the surface, launching back off the moon, catching the launched craft with an orbiting one, and then making it back alive. That's ten times more advancement than the Russian space program ever made. KYS
I don't think I've ever seen someone more wrong talking about space than you right now. Congrats.
So, you're correct that it's a huge engineering feat to send someone to the Moon. But that's not what I was actually talking about when I said form a scientific perspective and the fact that you used the term "scientific" to describe the engineering of sending someone to the Moon shows just how out of your league you are. Please go back and take a physics class or something.
From a scientific perspective, the science you can do in the ISS added to the engineering required to construct modular objects in space is far superior than that of just going to the moon.
The scientific impact of going to the moon is so much greater than anything we've gotten from the ISS.
Also, no one was arguing about scientific impact you mong. You said yourself that going to the moon was "not the greatest accomplishment ever." The discussion was about achievements, which going to the moon is literally one of the greatest mankind has ever had. You're just mad that whatever shithole of a country you crawled out of hasn't been. KYS
Again you're comparing reality to your imagination. If you want so look at examples where communism was tried, you'll find that "communist" countries were rarely ever democratic, most where the opposite actually.
No one is saying that capitalism is perfect. It's not fair either. What is being said is that communism has NEVER worked, while the majority of the western world has successfully had democracies the past 100 years.
Compare that to the "communistic"(quotation marks due to not being real communistic states) countries:
USSR, they used about 30 million people of their own citizens as slaves in the gulag(very democratic) where millions died. I'm pretty sure Stalin let 25 million people starve to death because some Ukrainian farmers didn't follow his orders.
Cuba, Fidel castro had: Firing squads, labor camps(seems to be a thing amongst "communistic "countries to use their citizens as slaves, very democratic indeed) and political prisoners(this part is very democratic indeed, I am sure USSR did this too but this post is getting long and I don't care enough to google it.).
Basically the point is this: you commies seem to have skipped history class while only listening to other commies' learning about communism. If you think the western world is cruel and unfair, picture your whole family being sent for slave labour in the gulag because you brother was the first one to stop clapping at some communist party speech.
Oh no doubt, capitalism is not without flaws obviously, and it needs government regulations. I'm saying I'd rather live in a well functioning capitalist country than risk losing everything including my life in a revolution for a system that has never once worked as it was supposed to.
Well of course when compared to the fairy tale that is a truetm communist state. You tell me when yall get that shit done and ill redistribute my cummies all over your face <3
Lol I don't know. Have you read what the teen commies write all the time online? I think the internet is the most damning thing for commies, because they sound like idiots.
Plus all the starvation and genocide. That's almost as bad too.
You... do realize that not every single american needs college education? Mostly only 18 to 25 year olds, and even then, the author is talking about giving it to people who would otherwise not be able to go to college. That's not all americans.
About 42 million americans are in need of food. That's not all americans.
Not having clean water is affecting smaller cities like Flint. Not all of america.
Not everyone in america is sick either. Are we sensing a trend?
To be a tiny bit fair, not every American would be getting their college degree at once. Assuming that every 18-24 year is is I school that would be 25 you and needing their education paid for at any time.article was pretty stupid eiher way.
It's pretty funny how some of them are "imagining" how a society without a police force functions, as if no one has ever witnessed what occurs when the State's monopoly on violence breaks down.
Now, some might argue that abolishing the police will create more βcrimeβ. The entire idea of crime is a racialized profit scheme (but thatβs another article).
So if I sodomized you with a broom before beating you with it, you'd be cool with that? After all, there's no such thing as crime.
$100 billion dollars could fund the college education of every βamericanβ.
More worthless degrees?
$100 billion dollars could feed every person in this country.
We can already do that. It's about distribution, not quantity.
We will decrease crime by 100% by deciding that there are no crimes! Well, except for things that offend our feelings, you should be put in a gulag for that.
Representation in tech is a huge topic over there, so commenters often lend their anecdotes.
Who else do you think a progressive left sub would have supported last year?
Do you ever read the sub? Gamergate issues have taken the back seat to general progressive "intersectional feminism" issues, they literally had a sticky about it.
No, I agree they're progressive to a fault, but more than anything they're reddit contrarians. So it seemed they were more anti-Bernie once he gained ground here, and they sure as hell hate STEM people. And I honestly doubt more than 10% of them have degrees of any kind.
But--we may be interpreting the sentiment there differently, and I'm sure we can agree the overall theme is impotent, chubby rage.
Usually people want to get rid of the police, because they want to replace them with some sort of organization that enforces the laws and catches criminals.
Many Black people attempted and successfully ran away from slave masters, which made the white ruling class lose money. This led to the creation of the police.
See, right here I can see a problem with the foundation of their theory.
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n/a carkidd3242 2017-03-08
Are these people mostly socialist? How do they think socialist countries will enforce law?
n/a Minimum_T-Giraff 2017-03-08
Well you see there be volunteers(para-military) that enforce the law and there be a council(warlord/party elite) that democratically(after it gets ok from the powerful members of the party) decides laws.
n/a ShitCommentBelow 2017-03-08
Not looking forward to Immortan Joe deciding my fate in this new Utopia.
n/a Jimmyhowelltn 2017-03-08
That sounds like you're questioning the r/esist movement. Go back to TD drumpftard.
n/a DistortedLines 2017-03-08
No, you see in my anarchist wonderland the community will enforce the law because everyone will be good for some reason. And the ones who aren't will be judged by a Democratically elected jury, imprisoned by democratically elected prison guards. So there are totally no cops or government or any opressive power structures :)
n/a carkidd3242 2017-03-08
I though anarchism was lynch mobs
n/a Alexlincoln2 2017-03-08
Democratically elected police are better known as lynch mobs yes
n/a DistortedLines 2017-03-08
No no trust me if we democratically elect everything then it'll all magically work out and nothing will ever go wrong.
n/a r4chan-cancer 2017-03-08
There's a person in there saying they would replace the police with a "trained crisis team".
n/a MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-03-08
Yeah. A dedicated team of specially armed people and trained people who are kept in reserve just in case a dangerous situation develops that regular law enforcement could not deal.
If there was only a word for that.
Special Anarchist Activation Team or SWAAT maybe? Gosh if only such a group existed.
n/a MasterLawlz 2017-03-08
This reminds me of a family guy episode where they become anarchist then to maintain order they slowly create a democratic society without realizing it
n/a Mournhold 2017-03-08
wtf I love family Guy now
n/a point_shaver 2017-03-08
Isn't that libertarianism? I get confused since none of these theories have or will ever exist in practice.
n/a DistortedLines 2017-03-08
There are left libertarians and right libertarians. The ones who advocate for supposedly no government are called anarchists, and these are also split between left and right.
Check out /r/anarchism for the leftists like the ones i was talking about, and /r/Anarcho_Capitalism for the rightists.
n/a point_shaver 2017-03-08
Im pretty sure libertarians want to do away with 'the state' as well. Went to r/asklibertarians to see what their solution to not having police is. Apparently you have to be well liked and count on your neighbors for protection. Thats the end goal at least. Pretty much the same as communism. Then again, its just a thought exercise. And everyone ascribes a different definition per convenience.
n/a xthorgoldx 2017-03-08
Thing is, everyone classifies themselves as one shade "less extreme" than they really are.
n/a darth_stroyer 2017-03-08
Socialists are actually communists
Left-leaning centrists are actually
socialistsfascists Libertarians are actuallyanarcho-capitalistsfascists Right-leaning centrists are actuallylibertariansfascists Centrists areliarsSouth Park neutralsn/a Ennui2778 2017-03-08
South Park neutrals are dude-bro fascists.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
the worst of the bunch
n/a callmesnake13 2017-03-08
Socialism and libertarianism is whatever Reddit wants it to be depending on what it believes in. Of course there are police in socialist countries. And the (not absurd) libertarian thinkers want effective public spending as well.
n/a ComedicSans 2017-03-08
Do I smell lynchings?
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-03-08
HANG HANG HANG HANG HANG
n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-03-08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6K1HgGMbus
n/a Nomadlads 2017-03-08
I knew the KKK was right about that.
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-03-08
/u/prince_kropotkin they're making fun of you again
n/a Mournhold 2017-03-08
Would probably be easier to only ping them when they aren't being made fun of.
n/a YourGayOpinion 2017-03-08
How many /u/prince_kropotkin's are there?
n/a Mournhold 2017-03-08
Not sure. Probably at least one tho. Definitely not zero.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-03-08
I don't have enough time today to waste it talking with idiots, sadly.
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-03-08
boo no fun.
Everything all right though? Or is i that you're just busy?
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-03-08
have to teach class lol
n/a Sarge_Ward 2017-03-08
Yo cool! Who do you teach?
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-03-08
i indoctrinate first year econ students with anarchism
n/a pigeondoubletake 2017-03-08
tell me they're kindergartners
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-03-08
i indoctrinate first year econ students with anarchism
n/a pigeondoubletake 2017-03-08
ha! more fuel for the drama fire. fuck em up good. so when I eventually get around to going to college they'll be sexually vulnerable!
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-03-08
are you doing this thing here
n/a pigeondoubletake 2017-03-08
that, or the D.E.N.N.I.S. system. Whichever is more creepy
n/a YourGayOpinion 2017-03-08
How the fuck do people manage to wear white pants
n/a Pretentious_Nazi 2017-03-08
Serious question, have you ever met anyone in the field who shares your political opinions?
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-03-08
There are people like Michael Albert and Robin Hahnel who are PhD economists and anarchists/libsocs. I haven't met anyone who was openly an anarchist economist personally, but I don't care to hang out with economists in general anyway. It's pretty clear that our ruling ideology is about to change, perhaps substantially, and much of the work of the last few decades will have lost its raison d'etre (supporting the ruling ideology) and will fade into irrelevance. That's happened like half a dozen times in economics already.
n/a Mort_DeRire 2017-03-08
lol what a load of nonsense. If you think economists are going to embrace anarchism in any way, shape, or form, you're totally deluded. It's so far from economic mainstream thinking that I find it surprising that you're suggesting you teach economics.
No respected economist has any time for anarchism, nor will they ever. As far as ideologies changing, in the last century, we've seen Austrians fail miserably and cause the great depression, then Keynesianism, then Chicago school. None of them come anywhere near anarchism (other than the laissez-faireness of Freidman, but to call it anarchism would be absurd).
Long story short I hope you're not a real economics teacher and don't actually tell your students anything positive about anarchism.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-03-08
Just for you I'm gonna evangelize twice as hard on Monday.
n/a Mort_DeRire 2017-03-08
You forgot to acknowledge how wrong you are about the rest of it
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-03-08
bernie would have won
n/a WouldBernieHaveWon 2017-03-08
"Fidel Castro totally transformed Cuban society!" Β Bernie Sanders
n/a merchandise_of_cush 2017-03-08
the only thing that matters here is that at least 95% of /r/GamerGhazi would be charged with social parasitism, become a socialist today
n/a WokeAsFuck 2017-03-08
/u/jonny_wags explained it here
Like a therapist turns up and calms everyone down instead of killing any black people in the area ir some bullshit.
Like [domestic disputes never turn violent] so a therapist is fine. They just turn up with some chamomile tea.
n/a ImNotPayingFullPrice 2017-03-08
Maybe some scented candles.
n/a ragazzo_soup 2017-03-08
Nobody can get mad when there's a scented candle around.
n/a Assy-McGee 2017-03-08
And Barry White playing with the bass turned up
n/a headasplodes 2017-03-08
/u/jonny_wags are you actually Fucking retarded
n/a pigeondoubletake 2017-03-08
`/u/jonny_wags is a lil bitch baby
n/a CirqueDuFuder 2017-03-08
/u/jonny_wags wants a police force but is too stupid to realize it.
n/a bleasehalb 2017-03-08
/u/Prince_Kropotkin I know you spend every other hour on here and you clearly have no issues arguing about retarded topics.
Can you even bring a half hearted defense for this? Cuz this is s8 utopianism up the butthole m8.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-03-08
They seem broadly correct to me. Cops spend most of their time dealing with property crimes, protests, shit like that which anarchists wouldn't need to deal with. A lot of other crime stems directly from people being desperate and poor.
You'll still have crimes of passion and the odd violent psychopath in any society, so you need to deal with that, but there are plenty of models that don't involve cops, an extremely recent invention.
n/a bleasehalb 2017-03-08
Hey a serious response! Few things:
What about theft and damage of personal property as opposed to private property? Or do you make no distinction?
Cops may be a more recent invention, but what proof is there that whatever force preceded them was less prone to violence and more fair in their investigations? Random jungle tribes or similar sized groups excluded.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-03-08
I'd say if anyone is going to steal your toothbrush or a T-shirt then you can just get another one. But say you were given a locket or something with high emotional value/hard to replace, then I imagine that would need to be adjudicated.
Crime & punishment in an anarchist society is definitely the most difficult topic for me to think and talk about. There are a lot of varying opinions and ideas out there. I would generally say that besides for a community militia to take care of violent murdering types and outsider attacks (I've expounded on that a lot more here), you'd need a system of elders that could deal with family disputes and things like this. The idea of arbitration via wise people in your community (social acceptance being conditional on agreeing to this arbitration) is a very, very old one. Police are not.
n/a bleasehalb 2017-03-08
I'm skeptical about a community militia thing but that aside you activated some of my almonds with that post. Just on a person to person level I'm not sure who the hell I would trust in a community militia, or even if trusted said militia I couldn't be sure of their competency. I see why you anarchists are so hesitant about the force thing since having a malicious/stupid person with force in that kind of community seems awful.
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-03-08
Think of a community militia a little bit like the Swiss militia. Every adult is trained up and ready to be activated on reasonably short notice, with a rotating substantially smaller group who actually hang around the town hall etc. Or you can look at what the Kurds are doing in Rojava (male and female militias).
n/a bleasehalb 2017-03-08
Sounds like a pain in the ass tbh, but I guess that's what you gotta do if you want live in that kind of society.
n/a Ramboxious 2017-03-08
Honest question, what kind of class do you teach? An introductory econ class or some interdisciplinary economics/cultural sciences class?
I think this would lead to a lot of people abusing this system, taking advantage of people's goodwill or their unwillingness to deal with someone constantly stealing their stuff
Wouldn't this create an establishment class filled with old, conservative, traditionalist people? Isn't this the sort of class that anarchists seem to oppose and fight against?
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-03-08
Why? if you can just go get toothbrushes for free then why go to the trouble of swiping used toothbrushes from other people? Sounds stupid to me
Conservative and traditionalist aren't bad traits in a good, stable and egalitarian society
n/a Ramboxious 2017-03-08
What sort of concepts do you go through in your class? Supply and demand curves, opportunity costs, marginal costs, time value of money, utility functions?
n/a Prince_Kropotkin 2017-03-08
anarchism, anarchy, the great anarchists, anarchist revolution
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-03-08
Remember, the sjws would have been sent the gulags in the USSR.
n/a YourGayOpinion 2017-03-08
See, this is why I am agnostic about economic policy.
n/a FakeAndrei 2017-03-08
I do believe that is a pleonasm.
n/a ImNotPayingFullPrice 2017-03-08
It's about ethics in gaming journalism
n/a MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-03-08
Is this really a reactionary sub to gamer gate? I pretty much don't know anything about what GamerGhazi is.
n/a Mefistofeles1 2017-03-08
They are the opposite of GG; gamers that are SJW. Altough they don't call themselves gamers because they hate them. And they also kinda hate videogames even tough they play them.
n/a pyfrag 2017-03-08
Yes, it was created around the same time as GamerGate blowing up and KotakuInAction being formed. They used to talk about normal social justice-y stuff and get angry about video games they didn't like, but as GamerGate faded into obscurity, Ghazi turned into an insane, tranny-circlejerk, socialist parody of itself.
n/a YourGayOpinion 2017-03-08
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddit_(generally)
n/a pyfrag 2017-03-08
I'm kind of disappointed that wasn't a thing.
n/a ChipChippersonAMA 2017-03-08
Who said that again? Was it angrydm
n/a pyfrag 2017-03-08
It was lifestyled
Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20150820215151/https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/3hpms9/i_ruined_this_subreddit/
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-03-08
That's how
communism/r/gamerghazi startedn/a Mexagon 2017-03-08
It's about dedicating your life to hating on a hobby you don't even participate in. Add that in with a weird sprinkling of pedofile defense, and you get gghazi!
n/a CC3940A61E 2017-03-08
yes, it's where all the good boys defend doxing serial abusers from accusations of being doxing serial abusers.
n/a cruelandusual 2017-03-08
From the TFA:
wew, SJW
n/a dramallllama 2017-03-08
Jesus there thinking is worst than that of libtards. They want to replace police with helicopters that watch people and a crisis group that cannot use force to stop people. I guess they want them to show up and hold a therapy session with the shooter.
I also love that they think that with the police gone minorities are going to come out on top.
n/a godofdae 2017-03-08
Excuse me friend, have you played the hit game Fallout: New Vegas? You can solve most quests peacefully by just talking to people the right way, so why can't our police do the same thing?
n/a darth_stroyer 2017-03-08
We live in a Bethesda world
n/a Nomadlads 2017-03-08
Obsidian
n/a Mefistofeles1 2017-03-08
...is the world where you can solve most shit with high CHA. We don't live in that world.
n/a MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-03-08
their thinking is worse
n/a bernredditdown 2017-03-08
How the mighty have fallen.
n/a davvii 2017-03-08
Personally, I'd love to see it.
n/a WholeLottaToughLove 2017-03-08
You know, under certain assumptions, that reasoning isn't inherently flawed. If you regard policemen to be foot-soldiers of an evil institution that wages war on you, it is a logical conclusion that neither of them can be "good" as all need to be eliminated. Just like I'm sure there were plenty of German soldiers occupying Poland who were stand-up guys, but I don't feel remotely edgy saying that they all needed to be killed.
Of course the assumptions are a wild exaggeration of the actual situation, but that's not even the real problem with this piece, because you could argue that everyone's experience is subjective.
The real problem is, as always with the kooky left, hypocrisy. If that kang of edge was writing this drivel besieged by feds on his self-sustaining farm and those leftists fucks were running printing machines in some sewer underground to distribute it and read it under dim light-bulbs, they would have some credibility in their "enemies of the system" posturing. Meanwhile most of them are probably on at least one form of government assistance and enjoy a stable and safe life thanks to the sacrifice of their brave local officers. Seriously, this LARPing is getting out of control.
n/a Works_of_memercy 2017-03-08
From the article:
$100 billion / 324 million Americans = about 300 dollars per person per year, lol. And not a single Ghazelle noticed, of course.
On the other hand, maths is the tool of the white capitalist heteropatriarchy. Communists use revolutionary consciousness instead of maths.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
we use math too, but it's usually in service of things like "beating capitalists to space"
n/a __Adam_Jensen__ 2017-03-08
and failing to go to the moon.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
ya, going to the moon, that thing that was so useful we haven't done it since the Nixon administration.
n/a __Adam_Jensen__ 2017-03-08
we chose to go to the moon not because it is useful but because it was cool.
n/a JohnnyLargeCock 2017-03-08
I'd like to see some reality tv on the moon.
It's 2017
n/a __Adam_Jensen__ 2017-03-08
porn on the moon.
n/a JohnnyLargeCock 2017-03-08
Nice.
Bouncy.
n/a pigeondoubletake 2017-03-08
Moon Fuck! in color!
n/a anotheraccount323 2017-03-08
Olympic Gameson the Moon would be badass.
n/a JohnnyLargeCock 2017-03-08
Michelle Jenneke competing on the moon:
http://imgur.com/a/Ub1Bc
n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-03-08
The updated JFK speech would be awesome.
n/a VicePresidentJesus 2017-03-08
Shit yeah. Even Marx acknowledged that capitalism was the best for doing rad shit/industrializing. He was just mad about how many people tended to get fucked over in the process. Like maybe now that we put a man on the moon we should try to do something about the 13,000,000 kids in America who don't have enough food to eat.
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-03-08
I mean, that's one individual accomplishment, but it's not the greatest accomplishment ever. What about "first man made satellite" or "first space station" or even "first modular space station." That'd be the Mir. I'd argue that last "first" is the most important, as the majority of our current manned operations in space deal with a modular space station.
n/a __Adam_Jensen__ 2017-03-08
just wait till trump tower branches out to the moon bud.
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-03-08
Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if Trump decided upon something so useless.
n/a __Adam_Jensen__ 2017-03-08
what, you want the red chinese to do it first?
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-03-08
1) The Red Chinese are capitalist, so if they did it, it'd still be a "triumph of capitalism"
2) Yes, I'd rather them waste the money.
n/a __Adam_Jensen__ 2017-03-08
1) they're the wrong kind of capitalist (not enough bald eagles) 2) coolness has no price
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-03-08
Is it really cool though? Did we even ask for this?
n/a __Adam_Jensen__ 2017-03-08
we can put a big gold statue of george washington, that'd be cool as fuck
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-03-08
Shouldn't we wait for Trump to finish office before putting up monuments to him?
n/a __Adam_Jensen__ 2017-03-08
nope, like the pharaohs of old we must start construction his glorious moon mausoleum while he lives.
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-03-08
Good idea. if we finish before his term is up, we can trick him to go to the moon and never let him back down.
n/a __Adam_Jensen__ 2017-03-08
then we'll be invaded by a race of trump like humanoid offshoots war of the worlds style in 100 years.
n/a fingerpaintswithpoop 2017-03-08
sick reference bro
n/a pigeondoubletake 2017-03-08
ADAM JOHNSON 2024
n/a old_grumpy_grandpa 2017-03-08
Space elevators are anything but useless
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-03-08
Yeah uh that's not how a space elevator would look like.
n/a ur_mom_IoI 2017-03-08
someone didnt read the charlie and the chocolate factory sequel
n/a old_grumpy_grandpa 2017-03-08
Dont let your dreams be dreams
n/a Nomadlads 2017-03-08
TBH being the first on another celestial body is waaaaay more impressive of an undertaking.
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-03-08
I'm sure to a layman it feels impressive, but from a scientific standpoint, it's not the most impressive thing.
n/a Nomadlads 2017-03-08
Bullshit. LEO is much less of scientific than landing people on the moon. Orbit is just chucking something up at the right speed. Landing on the moon required getting to the moon, landing a craft on the moon, having people explore the surface, launching back off the moon, catching the launched craft with an orbiting one, and then making it back alive. That's ten times more advancement than the Russian space program ever made. KYS
n/a PhysicsIsMyMistress 2017-03-08
I don't think I've ever seen someone more wrong talking about space than you right now. Congrats.
So, you're correct that it's a huge engineering feat to send someone to the Moon. But that's not what I was actually talking about when I said form a scientific perspective and the fact that you used the term "scientific" to describe the engineering of sending someone to the Moon shows just how out of your league you are. Please go back and take a physics class or something.
From a scientific perspective, the science you can do in the ISS added to the engineering required to construct modular objects in space is far superior than that of just going to the moon.
n/a Nomadlads 2017-03-08
The scientific impact of going to the moon is so much greater than anything we've gotten from the ISS.
Also, no one was arguing about scientific impact you mong. You said yourself that going to the moon was "not the greatest accomplishment ever." The discussion was about achievements, which going to the moon is literally one of the greatest mankind has ever had. You're just mad that whatever shithole of a country you crawled out of hasn't been. KYS
n/a CondeTrocola 2017-03-08
They didn't fail. It was unmanned.
n/a DistortedLines 2017-03-08
Well apparently not well enough considering the spectacular collapse of communist countries and their eventual return to capitalism.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
ya capitalism seems to be doing really well these days
n/a DistortedLines 2017-03-08
Point to one real life, large scale application of communism that worked better than capitalism.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
the eastern front
n/a DistortedLines 2017-03-08
I'm talking about workers owning the memes of production and running shit in a completely democratic manner, in a nation that exists today.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
are there any examples of a capitalist country that operates in a completely democratic manner that work better than communism?
n/a DistortedLines 2017-03-08
Considering the fact that communism has never been implemented successfully, then yes, literally any country ever.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
hmmm, yes successfully for the rich people
but never democratically.
n/a DistortedLines 2017-03-08
Again you're comparing reality to your imagination. If you want so look at examples where communism was tried, you'll find that "communist" countries were rarely ever democratic, most where the opposite actually.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
Capitalism working out better for rich people and being undemocratic is not in my imagination, comrade.
n/a hotblondeboob 2017-03-08
No one is saying that capitalism is perfect. It's not fair either. What is being said is that communism has NEVER worked, while the majority of the western world has successfully had democracies the past 100 years.
Compare that to the "communistic"(quotation marks due to not being real communistic states) countries:
USSR, they used about 30 million people of their own citizens as slaves in the gulag(very democratic) where millions died. I'm pretty sure Stalin let 25 million people starve to death because some Ukrainian farmers didn't follow his orders.
Cuba, Fidel castro had: Firing squads, labor camps(seems to be a thing amongst "communistic "countries to use their citizens as slaves, very democratic indeed) and political prisoners(this part is very democratic indeed, I am sure USSR did this too but this post is getting long and I don't care enough to google it.).
Basically the point is this: you commies seem to have skipped history class while only listening to other commies' learning about communism. If you think the western world is cruel and unfair, picture your whole family being sent for slave labour in the gulag because you brother was the first one to stop clapping at some communist party speech.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
bruh I'm not reading that many words about this subject
this is /r/drama, everything I've said has been a joke
jesus christ
n/a hotblondeboob 2017-03-08
My autism got the better of me
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
it happens to me all the time
n/a DistortedLines 2017-03-08
I'd rather live in a world with ultra rich people than live in one where I have to wait in line for my food rations.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
what if i told you
you can have both
n/a DistortedLines 2017-03-08
Oh no doubt, capitalism is not without flaws obviously, and it needs government regulations. I'm saying I'd rather live in a well functioning capitalist country than risk losing everything including my life in a revolution for a system that has never once worked as it was supposed to.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
contradiction of terms
n/a DistortedLines 2017-03-08
Well of course when compared to the fairy tale that is a truetm communist state. You tell me when yall get that shit done and ill redistribute my cummies all over your face <3
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
why would you need a trademark when it all belongs to the people?
n/a DistortedLines 2017-03-08
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
well, it's /r/drama
n/a DistortedLines 2017-03-08
True tbh
n/a wwyzzerdd 2017-03-08
no true capitalism.
n/a hotblondeboob 2017-03-08
Oh god yes
n/a Lesmothian 2017-03-08
oh shit, the USSR was really communist today?
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
the good parts were, obviously
n/a Imgur_Lurker 2017-03-08
The Eastern Front had tons of capitalism help, the only reason they had planes and Radios is because of America.
Some of the first women pilots jobs were flying across America to give Russians Planes.
Since Russians were literally using soggy cardboard in their radios and planes that made them useless most of the time.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
just not with the ass kicking part
n/a Imgur_Lurker 2017-03-08
Well One Radio is worth what 50 Russians?
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
are you using metric conversion?
n/a Imgur_Lurker 2017-03-08
I was thinking of how many Russians would have died from not being able to coordinate on the Eastern Front per Radio.
n/a Akilroth234 2017-03-08
Yeah, sure, outnumbering the undersupplied Germans 5 to 1 and still managing to get genocided by Manstein several times.
n/a JohnnyLargeCock 2017-03-08
It's doing great, actually. Wtf are you talking about?
Have you seen the thing you're typing on to shitpost comments to the internet? It's a miracle.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
I would say internet discourse is probably one of the most damning elements of capitalism, comrade
n/a JohnnyLargeCock 2017-03-08
Lol I don't know. Have you read what the teen commies write all the time online? I think the internet is the most damning thing for commies, because they sound like idiots.
Plus all the starvation and genocide. That's almost as bad too.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
sorry, are we talking about capitalism or communism or both?
n/a SuperShake66652 2017-03-08
You should go ask Stalin.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
or Truman
n/a Ennui2778 2017-03-08
Odd choice of presidents. Not Jefferson, or Jackson, or Polk?
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
all those too, but since we're talking world war 2, I thought the nuclear genocide on civilians was a good point of reference
n/a Jackanova3 2017-03-08
Genocide...?
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
when?
n/a Jackanova3 2017-03-08
Right now?
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
cocks kalashnikov
we start with the kulaks, comrade
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n/a Minimum_T-Giraff 2017-03-08
No kulaks or cossacks allowed.
n/a ProgressiveFragility 2017-03-08
it does, you got that right!
n/a YourGayOpinion 2017-03-08
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n/a Fartkin 2017-03-08
You sure you wanna claim the USSR because you can have it if you want but there's some things that comes with that I don't think you're going to like.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
idgaf
n/a Fartkin 2017-03-08
apparently
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
you got damn right
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n/a jonny_wags 2017-03-08
You... do realize that not every single american needs college education? Mostly only 18 to 25 year olds, and even then, the author is talking about giving it to people who would otherwise not be able to go to college. That's not all americans.
About 42 million americans are in need of food. That's not all americans.
Not having clean water is affecting smaller cities like Flint. Not all of america.
Not everyone in america is sick either. Are we sensing a trend?
n/a RIPGeorgeHarrison 2017-03-08
To be a tiny bit fair, not every American would be getting their college degree at once. Assuming that every 18-24 year is is I school that would be 25 you and needing their education paid for at any time.article was pretty stupid eiher way.
n/a Pepperglue 2017-03-08
This is why some communities have higher crime rate than the others: they do not trust the police.
If you do not trust them, and even hate them, how are they going to effectively police the community?
n/a lionbaiter 2017-03-08
Only good cop is one who forgives traffic violations in exchange for oral.
n/a The_Reason_Trump_Won 2017-03-08
n/a Sergey_Kislyak 2017-03-08
Maybe
n/a CucksLoveTrump 2017-03-08
Hello Mr Ambassador
n/a Sergey_Kislyak 2017-03-08
Hello! :)
n/a SlavophilesAnonymous 2017-03-08
Hi tovarishch! I just hacked the power grid, how's my maskirovka?
n/a Sergey_Kislyak 2017-03-08
Going perfectly to plan tovarishch. The orange is almost ripe.
n/a SlavophilesAnonymous 2017-03-08
Put in a good word to Putin?
n/a SaintJason 2017-03-08
Holy shit these retards actually think the abolition of police is good for everyone.
Tell that to Tyrone who got gunned down by gang-banger, or Puffysparkes zho was jumped by a red-neck.
If they want to see anarchism with no government so badly they should visit Somalia.
n/a Obregon 2017-03-08
It's pretty funny how some of them are "imagining" how a society without a police force functions, as if no one has ever witnessed what occurs when the State's monopoly on violence breaks down.
n/a libttard 2017-03-08
TIL Americans Invented Policing.
n/a Jimmyhowelltn 2017-03-08
http://1u88jj3r4db2x4txp44yqfj1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/OHIWU2a-Imgur.gif
n/a DannyLee90 2017-03-08
Nonono, you missed the most important part:
n/a MRB2012 2017-03-08
So if I sodomized you with a broom before beating you with it, you'd be cool with that? After all, there's no such thing as crime.
More worthless degrees?
We can already do that. It's about distribution, not quantity.
n/a Chavril 2017-03-08
At some point these morons will realize that free college education just means 8 years of high-school. A bachelor's is already pretty useless.
n/a YourGayOpinion 2017-03-08
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n/a caffienatedjedi 2017-03-08
We will decrease crime by 100% by deciding that there are no crimes! Well, except for things that offend our feelings, you should be put in a gulag for that.
n/a ShitCommentBelow 2017-03-08
Nice four-dimensional thinking, Comrade.
n/a MegaSeedsInYourBum 2017-03-08
You just won't okay? People commit crimes because of the police apparently so if the police are gone people like Jeffrey Dahlmer will never exist!
n/a Ultrashitpost 2017-03-08
It's not like roughly 50% of the prison population are psychopaths who cannot be taught empathy even if you were to give them a lifetime of therapy.
n/a Kraaltastic 2017-03-08
very long-winded way of spelling "african american" comrade
n/a MayorEmanuel 2017-03-08
Dorner may not have existed >_>
n/a MRB2012 2017-03-08
Dorner was always gonna kill someone if you read his story. It was just a question of who and how many.
n/a ChateauJack 2017-03-08
How do you go from whining over Link not being a *strong-female-protaganist" in the last Zelda, to straight out promoting a lawless state.
n/a ComedicSans 2017-03-08
When the only people still participating in the internet debate two or three years down the line are autistic NEET welfare-sponges, on both sides.
n/a ChateauJack 2017-03-08
This sub needs an acronym bot so regular people can understand when autists use "NEET", "LARP" and co.
n/a SuperShake66652 2017-03-08
That implies we want normies here.
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-03-08
I just realized, is your username based off Undertale?
n/a ComedicSans 2017-03-08
No. I've never played Undertake.
n/a Ardvarkeating101 2017-03-08
Sorry, I just assumed, what with the autism....
n/a ComedicSans 2017-03-08
I am about as autistic as Rachel Dolezal is black - I pretend for shits and giggles.
n/a DennisRader 2017-03-08
By being a leftist.
n/a StretchMarkFractals 2017-03-08
Theyve moved away from the Gamer Gate stuff. Now its just a bunch of snowflakey bernie-or-busters with STEM degrees talking about whatever
n/a theboozehelps 2017-03-08
Have you been on Ghazi ever?
n/a StretchMarkFractals 2017-03-08
Yes, I lurk there often. Why?
n/a theboozehelps 2017-03-08
Because you seem to think they have STEM degrees and supported Bernie.
n/a StretchMarkFractals 2017-03-08
I mean I was over generalizing to be sure.
Representation in tech is a huge topic over there, so commenters often lend their anecdotes.
Who else do you think a progressive left sub would have supported last year?
Do you ever read the sub? Gamergate issues have taken the back seat to general progressive "intersectional feminism" issues, they literally had a sticky about it.
n/a theboozehelps 2017-03-08
No, I agree they're progressive to a fault, but more than anything they're reddit contrarians. So it seemed they were more anti-Bernie once he gained ground here, and they sure as hell hate STEM people. And I honestly doubt more than 10% of them have degrees of any kind.
But--we may be interpreting the sentiment there differently, and I'm sure we can agree the overall theme is impotent, chubby rage.
n/a Mothu 2017-03-08
Pretty much all of the whiny liberal types have become full on far left anarchist/Communist, post trump election.
n/a godofdae 2017-03-08
They're also the foundation for many of my boners.
n/a davvii 2017-03-08
Actually, the foundation of the American economy was never black bodies. They were a commodity like cotton, sugar, etc. and were traded and sold.
n/a Ikinhaszkarmakplx2 2017-03-08
Fuck is GamerGhazi?!
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
it's kinda like peak liberalism but somehow more retarded because it's also related to videogames
n/a pigeondoubletake 2017-03-08
"related"
n/a dexceit 2017-03-08
bear in mind that this guy is a commie and not a conservative, sometimes they sound the same.
n/a atakeonhooper 2017-03-08
except my arguments are better because the ideology is pure
uncut
so fucking enjoyable
dialectic
i'm just melting into the revolution right now where do i end and the global liberation of workers begin
you guys
someone help
n/a BannaHamHock 2017-03-08
Forgive me for not being caught up on all these retarded breakout communities on Reddit, but isn't /r/gamerghazi a subreddit about.. .videogames?
n/a darth_stroyer 2017-03-08
It was about GamerGate, that shit that went down a few years ago tgat everyone forgot about. They Anarchism now
n/a StrategicSarcasm 2017-03-08
Actually it's about ethics in police forces.
n/a darth_stroyer 2017-03-08
FUCK COPS WE NEES LYNCH MOBS
n/a satanismyhomeboy 2017-03-08
GUERRILLAS IN THA MIST
n/a strathmeyer 2017-03-08
Usually people want to get rid of the police, because they want to replace them with some sort of organization that enforces the laws and catches criminals.
n/a YourGayOpinion 2017-03-08
Gaziz Ghazari
n/a SamWhite 2017-03-08
See, right here I can see a problem with the foundation of their theory.