/u/knappsterbot, what's wrong with getting redditors scared of women? Do you think that extra caution about obtaining consent is unsexy? Or are you upset that this will deprive many women of skittish redditor dick?
Oh boy I made it to r/drama! I'll just say I'm not mocking the victims, just the way Reddit flocks to this sort of thing, just like the Terry Crews stuff. It was overly callous in hindsight but oh well I made my bed.
Do you think the fact your title reflects more of a contempt for men, than a critique of Reddit culture, reflects the fact that you have misandric tendencies?
No. It didn't convey what I wanted because I went for snark over clarity. I am a man and don't hate myself or other men, but I get frustrated with the attitudes so many have on Reddit. I expressed it poorly with that post.
Don't you think it'd be better to focus on examples of Reddit reacting negatively to female victims, rather than mocking Reddit for reacting positively to male victims?
not enough groveling. this is about people's lives, fate worse than death, tears for the ages, trauma of a lifetime, and you took a giant shit on it. idc tbh, but this apology reeks of a little something called unexamined privilege. you're a male feminist, i know you can grovel better than that.
But that means that redditors are more afraid of women raping them and falsely accusing them, which makes them stay the fuck away from women, which is good, no?
Alright. Show me 3 examples of female victims telling their story on reddit and redditors not believing her. Or even just one if you want to be really lazy about it.
You do realize that twoxchromosomes and related subs do exist, right? The creation of crewscrew or whatever didn't wipe them out. They're, like, a massively populated sub that gets posts to r/all almost every day.
we hear about female victims like literally every day. and no matter how much you think women aren't taken seriously, male victims are taken about 10% as seriously as women
Lol Terry Crews is a Reddit darling, he's basically a built-in meme here. He probably has like 4 subreddits.
skew towards misogyny
Of course. And I'm sure BLM says Reddit skews racist. I'm sure MRAs say it skews white knight. Progressives say it's an alt-right shitfest, right-leaners say it's a leftist cesspool.
Reddit is a wonderful place because of how diversely it allows people to bicker over who is more hated sitewide.
Reddit is a wonderful place because of how diversely it allows people to bicker over who is more hated sitewide.
Hey that's part of why I like it too. The voting system does give some insight on prevailing popular ideas and subjects though so talking about trends aren't without some objective data.
One of the major unspoken reasons for this is that men don't lie about rape while women do. Even the lowest estimates put women's false accusation rate at 8%, which is pretty shockingly high. Since no one gives a shit about raped men, we just don't have the same incentive to lie about it. Therefore, you never need to consider the possibility of a false accusation when a man is the one accusing. With women, the odds of an accusation being false are pretty significant.
Having seen a few discussion pages myself, left. It's a very moderate influence but it's there.
Thankfully, I've not yet seen a single actually credible source being removed for political reasons, so the moderation is decent. But perhaps leftist sources are given a bit more leeway than right wing ones.
Go down to the second discussion and read the argument, for an example. The mod claims anthropologists can be sourced on whether there is a biological basis to race.
Sea lioning (also spelled sealioning and sea-lioning) is a type of Internet trolling which consists of bad-faith requests for evidence, or repeated questions, the purpose of which is not clarification or elucidation, but rather an attempt to derail a discussion or to wear down the patience of one's opponent. The troll who uses this tactic also uses fake civility and feigns offense so as to discredit their target. The term arises from a 2014 edition of the webcomic Wondermark, where a character expresses an unsubstantiated dislike of sea lions and a passing sea lion repeatedly asks the character to explain.
/u/Knappsterbot - ever consider it might be because men's stories of being victims of rape and sexual assault are largely/historically ignored by society? Nahhhhhh...that couldn't be it, it's because men hate women!
It's an endless font of content and discussion, we get stuff and people from every corner of the internet and the known universe here. We get a lot of shit too. Ultimately I like the utility that Reddit provides, that's why I've stuck around and participated, but there's still plenty of stuff that bums me out.
It's pretty obvious from your behavior and attitude. I bet you have some kind of sick sexual fetish that can only be satisfied by getting outraged on the internet. You male feminist kooks are always into some weird degenerate shit.
Fee free to elaborate and explore, in your own words, your reasoning for coming to a website you "hate", because I'm genuinely curious about people like you.
double-happiness' original question is something I always wonder myself about the CB2 crowd.
Flesh it out a bit more. If you like the discussion Reddit provides, but you frequent CB2 where the discussion centers around how "toxic" Reddit is, with links to posts that run contrary to your sense of morality, then aren't you seeking out things to be outraged by?
I have discussions all over Reddit, it's not like I only participate in CB2. But a lot of the time I've already seen whatever I'm "outraged" about and go to the sub to vent with like-minded people.
I don't think you;re correct to say that reddit has any particular widespread 'culture', let alone a toxic one. This place actually has some overtly mutually opposed communities.
Whenever I hear people sneering about what a 'basket of deplorables' redditors are I always think they shine more of a light on their own snooty censoriousness.
Like being able to run into your little corners and soapbox about your virtuous chivalry. Probably can't do that in real life, right? Or you feel better about yourself by pretending to fix the world to make up for the inability to fix your own life?
People demand proof when someone suggests actions being taken against a named accused. Like 'X person' should be arrested or fired. Not for anonymous experiences.
Plus, no one is saying these men should be taken at their word anywhere. But there are plenty of subs where mentioning the fact a woman might possibly lie is blasphemous. It's literally a core tenant of majority feminist subs.
Also, is that sub aware of the irony of being one of the biggest echo chambers on Reddit? You just perpetuate circlejerks you agree with.
Man you sure read a lot into that sentence. Sure I like small subs with like-minded people, but I'm not isolating myself. My life is going pretty well right now so it's more an expression of my frustrations with bigger picture stuff that is harder to change.
Ok, I agree with the part about some adolescent boy getting manipulated by some control freak woman isn't awesome just because it involves sex but... So some guy got super wasted and fucked some bitch he didn't want to, who the fuck cares? Men and women are different, it makes sense to have different standards sometimes.
Nowhere in my comment did I describe all sex as being enjoyable, so I'm not what you are responding to. What i am saying is that it's ok to treat men and women differently under certain circumstances because they are different.
Why is it a bad thing that people believe in innocent until proven guilty? Are you aware of reddit's history with witch hunts? Do you want those again?
show me one thread where a man is accused of sexual assault with not all top 5 comments saying "innocent until proven guilty"
/u/wwxxwwxx clearly wasn't around for Brock Turner. None of the threads about him had the innocent until proven guilty comments at the top, despite it being, you know, literally the law of the land.
What rape victims? Victims of sexual assault, maybe, but to be raped requires the victim to be harmed in more ways than just physical assault; it requires a societal discrimination of the victims "group".
winner winner chicken dinner. /u/Valdincan you are now king of the tardies
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1 NormanImmanuel 2018-03-14
CB2: "The thread about Hawkings was misleading, we're not that hateful"
Also CB2: "Lol male rape victims"
1 autistitron 2018-03-14
The Hawking thread was so isolated and non-CB2 that it's now stickied on the front page.
Really makes you think
1 moudougou 2018-03-14
ironically stickied by /u/supergauntlet
1 supergauntlet 2018-03-14
um wrong sweaty, I stickied it because it's a great post :)
1 pepperouchau 2018-03-14
The only great posts are in cb1 duh
1 Grammar-Bolshevik 2018-03-14
Be on the look out for the troon agenda
1 MarioThePumer 2018-03-14
..What anti-hawkins thread?
1 FoxxMD 2018-03-14
The one that's sticked
1 htmlcoderexe 2018-03-14
In which all of cb2 shit's on the op
1 shallowm 2018-03-14
Well, to be fair, /r/drama stickies their autistic posts too.
1 life_is_painfull 2018-03-14
Get your ass in here now Snappy before they delete it.
1 celocanth13 2018-03-14
Before who deletes it? CB2 has like, 1 mod now and he hates the users.
1 SoberProfessionally 2018-03-14
how is life celocunt?
1 celocanth13 2018-03-14
Please don't be mean in r/drama, this is a friendly place for friendly people.
1 SoberProfessionally 2018-03-14
tru
sorry friend
1 htmlcoderexe 2018-03-14
/r/drama takeover when
1 JohnTheOrc 2018-03-14
lol
1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-03-14
Oh look what we have there, the pathetic privileged idiot DSD-3.
1 wayback000 2018-03-14
Wow the misandrist whores are out in force today, someone must have burnt a period candle last night.
1 zergling_Lester 2018-03-14
/u/knappsterbot, what's wrong with getting redditors scared of women? Do you think that extra caution about obtaining consent is unsexy? Or are you upset that this will deprive many women of skittish redditor dick?
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
Oh boy I made it to r/drama! I'll just say I'm not mocking the victims, just the way Reddit flocks to this sort of thing, just like the Terry Crews stuff. It was overly callous in hindsight but oh well I made my bed.
1 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2018-03-14
Why didn't you delete the post like they asked you to?
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
I'm about to, it was a mistake. I was in a bad headspace.
1 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2018-03-14
Do you think the fact your title reflects more of a contempt for men, than a critique of Reddit culture, reflects the fact that you have misandric tendencies?
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
No. It didn't convey what I wanted because I went for snark over clarity. I am a man and don't hate myself or other men, but I get frustrated with the attitudes so many have on Reddit. I expressed it poorly with that post.
1 StezzerLolz 2018-03-14
for what it's worth, you're right, lol, reddit has a hard on for male rape. just a bit tone deaf to call people out on it.
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
That's the conclusion I came to as well.
1 MarioThePumer 2018-03-14
You had a good point, but phrased it poorly.
1 v_is_one_person 2018-03-14
Should have said βMale rape makes reddit wet.β
1 morerokk 2018-03-14
Probably because it's difficult to discuss literally anywhere else.
1 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2018-03-14
Don't you think it'd be better to focus on examples of Reddit reacting negatively to female victims, rather than mocking Reddit for reacting positively to male victims?
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
Yes
1 pepperouchau 2018-03-14
Oh my, we'd never do that here!
1 Thot_Crusher 2018-03-14
Oh boy, a male feminist mocks rape victims. What else is new?
1 skeetsurfing1984 2018-03-14
Self-reflection and admitting a mistake?!? Not on my reddit buddy!
1 fuckduck9000 2018-03-14
not enough groveling. this is about people's lives, fate worse than death, tears for the ages, trauma of a lifetime, and you took a giant shit on it. idc tbh, but this apology reeks of a little something called unexamined privilege. you're a male feminist, i know you can grovel better than that.
1 ffbtaw 2018-03-14
misandristic, misogynic is also not a word
1 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2018-03-14
Ty, supprised there even an official term for it, lol
1 ay_what_up2 2018-03-14
is this a joke lmao
1 Thot_Crusher 2018-03-14
1 zergling_Lester 2018-03-14
But what's bad about it?
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
The double standard. Women are doubted and men are held up as victims, even in cases of women accusing men.
1 zergling_Lester 2018-03-14
But that means that redditors are more afraid of women raping them and falsely accusing them, which makes them stay the fuck away from women, which is good, no?
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
Haha that's not a terrible point
1 OnePercentOfMonster 2018-03-14
BbbbbbbbBBBUT WHAT ABOUT THE WOMENZzzzzz
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
Well said
1 OnePercentOfMonster 2018-03-14
Lol just some epic liberal humor for ya
1 -scapegoat- 2018-03-14
Libtard TOTALLY TROLLED EPIC STYLE 21 21 21 πππππππ
1 Sentinell 2018-03-14
You think that female rape victims are doubted more than male rape victims?
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
Here on Reddit, yes.
1 ExterminateWhiteMen 2018-03-14
Women are snakes and liars out to corrupt the innocence of man
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
Thanks for providing an example boss
1 ThenTheGorursArrived 2018-03-14
This but unironically
1 westphall 2018-03-14
Meanwhile in reality, Crews' case was dropped.
1 Sentinell 2018-03-14
Holy shit you're serious?
Alright. Show me 3 examples of female victims telling their story on reddit and redditors not believing her. Or even just one if you want to be really lazy about it.
1 IFuckedZoeQuinn 2018-03-14
Delusions like this are common among feminists. One of the consequences of their severe mental illness. It's like they live in a fantasy world.
1 HailSanta2512 2018-03-14
wtf i love whataboutism now
1 AltRight_WalterWhite 2018-03-14
Remember that one time a dude falsely accused a woman of rape
No one else does either
1 I-need-MAYO 2018-03-14
You do realize that twoxchromosomes and related subs do exist, right? The creation of crewscrew or whatever didn't wipe them out. They're, like, a massively populated sub that gets posts to r/all almost every day.
1 DaaaBearsDiamondCo 2018-03-14
And they also have a rape related thread hit /r/all like once a week
1 ffbtaw 2018-03-14
try once a day
1 Rith2 2018-03-14
Faggot
1 pepperouchau 2018-03-14
I feel like you have a limited vocabulary
1 OnePercentOfMonster 2018-03-14
Shut ya trap, faggit
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
Why are you giving me more attention? I become more powerful with every reply!
1 Rith2 2018-03-14
Oh shi-
1 autistitron 2018-03-14
This edge
1 nomad1c 2018-03-14
we hear about female victims like literally every day. and no matter how much you think women aren't taken seriously, male victims are taken about 10% as seriously as women
1 xjapxn 2018-03-14
"I'm not mocking male rape victims, just kvetching about the support they get"
1 DaaaBearsDiamondCo 2018-03-14
The Terry Crews stuff? Reddit was definitely in an uproar over the women as well, I felt like.
But overall Reddit flocks to what it believes is the untold story. People want to see things they didn't expect.
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
They were, but only Crews got a dedicated subreddit that immediately shot to the front page.
I definitely recognize that, but in conjunction with the demographic that tends to skew towards misogyny.
1 DaaaBearsDiamondCo 2018-03-14
Lol Terry Crews is a Reddit darling, he's basically a built-in meme here. He probably has like 4 subreddits.
Of course. And I'm sure BLM says Reddit skews racist. I'm sure MRAs say it skews white knight. Progressives say it's an alt-right shitfest, right-leaners say it's a leftist cesspool.
Reddit is a wonderful place because of how diversely it allows people to bicker over who is more hated sitewide.
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
Hey that's part of why I like it too. The voting system does give some insight on prevailing popular ideas and subjects though so talking about trends aren't without some objective data.
1 IFuckedZoeQuinn 2018-03-14
One of the major unspoken reasons for this is that men don't lie about rape while women do. Even the lowest estimates put women's false accusation rate at 8%, which is pretty shockingly high. Since no one gives a shit about raped men, we just don't have the same incentive to lie about it. Therefore, you never need to consider the possibility of a false accusation when a man is the one accusing. With women, the odds of an accusation being false are pretty significant.
1 buttermyself 2018-03-14
And now youre getting raped in it.
1 headasplodes 2018-03-14
When you care about being contrarian more than you care about rape victims
1 Thot_Crusher 2018-03-14
Why do you think it's okay to mock rape victims?
1 imnotagayboy 2018-03-14
Why waste all this time and effort justifying your shitty behaviour?
Just say "oh you poor menz" like we know you want to.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-03-14
/u/knappsterbot how does it feel when the top comment calls you out for your BS? Pls express yourself.
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
It's valid.
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2018-03-14
Unlike your contributions to society.
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
Hey I've donated to Wikipedia
1 Sarge_Ward 2018-03-14
tbh I was going to make fun of you for wasting your money, but thats not even all that bad of a thing to contribute to. good on you
1 MooseHeckler 2018-03-14
Eh, it has a weird and oddly politicized culture. The intent of donation may be good. Though the actual change it effects is negligible.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-03-14
Which way do you think it sways considering that you said it is slightly(?) politicized?
1 ThenTheGorursArrived 2018-03-14
Having seen a few discussion pages myself, left. It's a very moderate influence but it's there.
Thankfully, I've not yet seen a single actually credible source being removed for political reasons, so the moderation is decent. But perhaps leftist sources are given a bit more leeway than right wing ones.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Race_and_intelligence
Go down to the second discussion and read the argument, for an example. The mod claims anthropologists can be sourced on whether there is a biological basis to race.
1 WorldStarCroCop 2018-03-14
There was a section about feminism in the article about butcher shops.
1 MooseHeckler 2018-03-14
Who knows at this point.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-03-14
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_lioning
1 WikiTextBot 2018-03-14
Sea lioning
Sea lioning (also spelled sealioning and sea-lioning) is a type of Internet trolling which consists of bad-faith requests for evidence, or repeated questions, the purpose of which is not clarification or elucidation, but rather an attempt to derail a discussion or to wear down the patience of one's opponent. The troll who uses this tactic also uses fake civility and feigns offense so as to discredit their target. The term arises from a 2014 edition of the webcomic Wondermark, where a character expresses an unsubstantiated dislike of sea lions and a passing sea lion repeatedly asks the character to explain.
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1 SoberProfessionally 2018-03-14
nice
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2018-03-14
/u/Knappsterbot - ever consider it might be because men's stories of being victims of rape and sexual assault are largely/historically ignored by society? Nahhhhhh...that couldn't be it, it's because men hate women!
1 73696D756C6174696F6E 2018-03-14
95% of Reddit are men. People care more about their own, big whoop.
1 ltedt 2018-03-14
Lmao these fat women actually believe this. Jesus. "innocent until proven guilty" well that's how the system works you fucking retard.
1 BigLebowskiBot 2018-03-14
You said it, man.
1 wwxxwwxx 2018-03-14
so can you show me those or nah
1 ltedt 2018-03-14
It's not my job to educate you
1 wwxxwwxx 2018-03-14
guess I'm right then
educate yourself
1 -huitzilopochtli- 2018-03-14
imagine being this braindead lmao
1 wwxxwwxx 2018-03-14
why are heterosexuals so gullible
1 -huitzilopochtli- 2018-03-14
1 fennec_lover 2018-03-14
r/gendercritical
1 surviva316 2018-03-14
31 upvotes, every top comment is calling it out, has since been deleted.
1 Rith2 2018-03-14
Imagine being such a bitter faggot and posting there
1 wwxxwwxx 2018-03-14
imagine having a micropenis
1 Rith2 2018-03-14
Donβt have to uwu
1 wwxxwwxx 2018-03-14
rip
1 double-happiness 2018-03-14
redditor for 7 years
has helped pay for 231.26 minutes of reddit server time
2,341 post karma
95,970 comment karma
Why on earth would you be so involved with a site you think is "toxic and misguided"?? Just fucking leave already!!
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
Because I like other aspects about it
1 moudougou 2018-03-14
what do you use reddit for? what aspects do you like?
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
It's an endless font of content and discussion, we get stuff and people from every corner of the internet and the known universe here. We get a lot of shit too. Ultimately I like the utility that Reddit provides, that's why I've stuck around and participated, but there's still plenty of stuff that bums me out.
1 SmurfPrivilege 2018-03-14
In other words, you have a compulsive need to find toxicity to be outraged by.
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
I could see how you could read it that way if you have a brain injury
1 IFuckedZoeQuinn 2018-03-14
It's pretty obvious from your behavior and attitude. I bet you have some kind of sick sexual fetish that can only be satisfied by getting outraged on the internet. You male feminist kooks are always into some weird degenerate shit.
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
The orgasms are better the more downvotes you get
1 PoorLilMarco 2018-03-14
wew got em
1 SmurfPrivilege 2018-03-14
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
I really hate it when shitbags like you incompetently try to twist my words though
1 SmurfPrivilege 2018-03-14
Fee free to elaborate and explore, in your own words, your reasoning for coming to a website you "hate", because I'm genuinely curious about people like you.
double-happiness' original question is something I always wonder myself about the CB2 crowd.
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
I already have nincompoop
1 SmurfPrivilege 2018-03-14
Flesh it out a bit more. If you like the discussion Reddit provides, but you frequent CB2 where the discussion centers around how "toxic" Reddit is, with links to posts that run contrary to your sense of morality, then aren't you seeking out things to be outraged by?
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
I have discussions all over Reddit, it's not like I only participate in CB2. But a lot of the time I've already seen whatever I'm "outraged" about and go to the sub to vent with like-minded people.
1 wow___justwow 2018-03-14
Uh buddy, look at the subreddit you're on.
If we didn't have brain defects, we wouldn't be posting here.
1 -SetsunaFSeiei- 2018-03-14
I think youβll fit in pretty well here if you decide to stay
1 double-happiness 2018-03-14
I don't think you;re correct to say that reddit has any particular widespread 'culture', let alone a toxic one. This place actually has some overtly mutually opposed communities.
Whenever I hear people sneering about what a 'basket of deplorables' redditors are I always think they shine more of a light on their own snooty censoriousness.
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
That's fair but I disagree
1 point_shaver 2018-03-14
Like being able to run into your little corners and soapbox about your virtuous chivalry. Probably can't do that in real life, right? Or you feel better about yourself by pretending to fix the world to make up for the inability to fix your own life?
People demand proof when someone suggests actions being taken against a named accused. Like 'X person' should be arrested or fired. Not for anonymous experiences.
Plus, no one is saying these men should be taken at their word anywhere. But there are plenty of subs where mentioning the fact a woman might possibly lie is blasphemous. It's literally a core tenant of majority feminist subs.
Also, is that sub aware of the irony of being one of the biggest echo chambers on Reddit? You just perpetuate circlejerks you agree with.
1 Knappsterbot 2018-03-14
Man you sure read a lot into that sentence. Sure I like small subs with like-minded people, but I'm not isolating myself. My life is going pretty well right now so it's more an expression of my frustrations with bigger picture stuff that is harder to change.
1 point_shaver 2018-03-14
That would require not hating a majority of the people and finding excuses/labels to be dismissive about their views.
1 jorio 2018-03-14
Ok, I agree with the part about some adolescent boy getting manipulated by some control freak woman isn't awesome just because it involves sex but... So some guy got super wasted and fucked some bitch he didn't want to, who the fuck cares? Men and women are different, it makes sense to have different standards sometimes.
1 moudougou 2018-03-14
post this to /r/MensRights if u r a real man
1 IFuckedZoeQuinn 2018-03-14
Nope.
1 jorio 2018-03-14
Nowhere in my comment did I describe all sex as being enjoyable, so I'm not what you are responding to. What i am saying is that it's ok to treat men and women differently under certain circumstances because they are different.
1 The_Reason_Trump_Won 2018-03-14
1 moudougou 2018-03-14
u/onitan must love CB2
1 rockidol 2018-03-14
/u/wwxxwwxx
Why is it a bad thing that people believe in innocent until proven guilty? Are you aware of reddit's history with witch hunts? Do you want those again?
1 wwxxwwxx 2018-03-14
eat my ass nuggets misogynist scum
1 broden 2018-03-14
Men are gagging for it
1 wow___justwow 2018-03-14
/u/wwxxwwxx clearly wasn't around for Brock Turner. None of the threads about him had the innocent until proven guilty comments at the top, despite it being, you know, literally the law of the land.
1 1171798 2018-03-14
/u/Benur197 i need to know about the guy who defended bestiality, give me a link pls.
1 Benur197 2018-03-14
1 Jackdom95 2018-03-14
winner winner chicken dinner. /u/Valdincan you are now king of the tardies
1 Valdincan 2018-03-14
winner winner chicken dinner. you took the fucking bait m8
1 LemonScore 2018-03-14
/u/-dEbAsEr 30% of reddit is female. https://imgur.com/gallery/cPzlB