Our favourite SRDine/menslib mod's galaxy brain take "Pregnant men already have the right to abortion". Imagine losing an argument to an MRA.

1  2018-10-26 by BIknkbtKitNwniS

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It's the same teenager racism hate cult that MDE was all about. It's just another boring /pol/ offshoot for lonely edgelord losers.

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Anytime some retard's argument gets BTFO'd via analogy, they will immediately resort to "how dare you?"

Person 1: Only trans people can should portray trans people in movies

Person 2: Why? Tom Hanks played a retard in Forrest Gump and he's not a retard.

Person 1: Yikes, r u really calling trans people retarded?

You can't have a real argument about shit on Reddit, you'll only be met with some sort of turbo degenerate twisting your words over themselves until it fits whatever their narrative is.

That's why I come here, to watch people make the mistake of even trying

Are you saying video gamers who use the turbo boost are degenerate? HOW DARE YOU!

That's it. I'm rising up.

Scum like you are rising up to hurt the innocent children. You child abusers disgust me

What, are you pre-emptively calling me a turbo degenerate just because I'm nitpicking and twisting your words so I can be outraged?

I have never been more offended in my life!

Oh so we're just cool with being offended now? Like that's what we're doing? Idk sweaty

You can't have a real argument about shit on Reddit, you'll only be met with some sort of turbo degenerate twisting your words over themselves until it fits whatever their narrative is.

yeah a kiddy diddlin hyper racist would say that

back to el_drumpf with you šŸ‘‰

Yep, this couldnā€™t be more true. Even if you never intended to argue or you made some tangential point, people on reddit will fall over themselves to make it into anarguement about somethingā€™s youā€™ve never ecen commented on. Idk if this is a reddit thing or a social media thing.

It is a social media thing. Libtards on Twitter and MAGAcels on Facebook use pretty much the same stragety

this, but unironically

Yes. This, 110%. I'm so glad to see it being called out. I've literally been stunned by the shit people have twisted and tried to use as their "argument". Ima save this comment too. Another reason why I love this sub.

In the stupidest fucking subs, too.

snappy/sidebar quote right here

Let's just watch the world burn.

analogies: comparing the aspects which are similar between two different things

intellectuals on the internet: UM EXCUSE ME THOSE TWO THINGS ARENT 100% THE SAME

You people just hate on him because you want to abandon your I N N O C E N T C H I L D. How dare you.

Who wants to raise shitty ass kids anyway?

How unsurprising, the sub of alt-right nazis hates INNOCENT CHILDREN too. You people disgust me.

What do you mean YoU PeOpLe???

This is every single argument on the internet talking about women taking precautions in risky environments.

Yes

You do realize that getting a bunch of secular stupid young right wing males on reddit to click the upvote button is not the same as winning the argument don't you? Like literally you've just come up with a fancy way of saying "Child support should be entirely voluntary on the part of the man". And you're using the existence of abortion as a justification for it? Holy fuck shit are you an entitled, whiny piece of shit.

Like, again, who the fuck is this legislation targeted towards? 90% of the right is not going to vote for it because they want to "promote" family and ban abortion and voting for something who's argument is based on giving men an "abortion" option (i.e. making child support fully voluntary, in non-retardese). And obviously the left isn't going to vote for something that literally penalizes women for possessing control over their own body, in a petty attempt at artificial, imposed "equality" for the poor poor oppressed deadbeat dads of the world. Step outside of your 90% young white right wing male sphere and you're going to get laughed out of the fucking room. And you're probably going to come out fuming, write a stupid blog about how awful normies (i.e. non-participants the circlejerk of your own single identity group), and blame on Jews or Hillary Clinton. When it really is just because you're a worthless piece of shit. Sorry.

It's funny how in every other instance the right is against artificial equity solutions like this, that try to smooth out inequalities that are the result of inherent natural differences. But when it comes to one that just happens to fuck women over, reddits male circlejerk is all over it and considers it the greatest thing since their last fart.

How about this: if a man gets a woman pregnant, he has to pay child support no matter what. Like if the woman gets an abortion, it's just free money for the next 20 years. I like that solution personally.

Have you owned the libs yet?

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this is a bad argument because forrest gump is a trash movie for college football dads and their mouthbreathing sons

the correct citation is charlie in always sunny

Why are incels so afraid of child support?

It's really expensive.

thats why these degenerates only go for young girls who can't get pregnant yet

Yeah kids need food and water and books and other shit

The kids require that. The mother should pay for her own food, water, and housing though. That's part of being a responsible adult.

Taxation without representation.

1/3 of your income pre tax is going to someone who may prevent you from seeing your kids (assuming you want to).

And literally can be spent any way the woman pleases.

Zero oversight is a huge issue.

Unless a guy is Daddy Warbucks, I don't see what 'oversight' would solve. Average child support is like $400 a month. The woman brings in her receipts for childcare, boom the money is accounted for. So, because childcare is covered, the woman has an extra $400 a month to do whatever you guys are worried will happen to the beta buck's child support. Buy bon bons, make Chads car payment for him, etc., etc.

Iā€™m that scenario the kidā€™s getting the support he needs, so whatā€™s the problem?

That's an idiotic assumption, and it dismisses the principle of the argument, that of being forced to pay to facilitate expenditures having nothing to do with care taking of the child.

That's exactly my point. What will oversight solve when the parent receiving it will easily be able to show the money is going to the children?

Like should we establish a whole bureaucracy to micromanage every single mother in the nation? You realize there are a lot of them right?

In general it is expected that parents will take care of their children. It is sort of a natural instinct, hardwired into us by hundreds of millions of years of evolution. Just because you split doesn't mean she's a degenerate aberration as well. I don't see what the problem is unless there is evidence of abuse.

There are plenty of problems with the system. How it should function as designed is far from the actual results.

It is sort of a natural instinct, hardwired into us by hundreds of millions of years of evolution

Yes, my feminist friend, use a naive account of biology to justify morality, that will surely end well for your feminist ambitions

Some states can take more, especially if you have multiple kids. I've heard up to 51% in California but I'm not sure if that's accurate.

In canada I think it tops out at 40% of your income.

I honestly canā€™t think of a worse scenario for myself than having kids and only seeing them every other weekend and paying money to the other parent, especially after having been so close to my dad for so long

Like I know worse things can happen in life but I donā€™t see how that wouldnā€™t make you horribly depressed. But it happens all the time

I drank a lot, and almost got crushed by a recycling compactor after passing out in a recycling dumpster.

Thats how I dealt with it.

Cause the only thing worse than a studio apartment with one job is a studio apartment with 2 jobs

Because child support is a racquet. It only makes sense in cases of divorce. Women need to quit feeling so entitled as to assuming that a man who they want as a fuck buddy should have to give them money if they so choose to have a kid. No one's forcing them to have the child so, why force a man with the penalty of possible jail time to give you money for a kid that he most likely won't ever see?

Pregnant men

U wot?

I love how tits went from the "pregnant men" canard to complaining that someone else was talking about rare edge cases.

you can preggers thru the butt?

dude

bussy lmao

Hell even amongst trannies it's a rare edge case cuz hormones make you sterile.

You don't need to take hormones to be transgender sweetie, don't be a bigot.

Yeah I'm definitely edging in my case.

Its 2018 sweety men can get pregnant.

Transmen who get pregnant, duh!

He meant females. Female men. Trannies. Transmen.

This dude is making meme arguments.

Holy fucking shit you are literally Rosa fucking Parks

How does it feel to be so oppressed

Abolish child support b/c abortion exists

What genius, what universal reason and appeal

Lmao damn you're mad. Did your dad not want you?

Was what I said wrong? Was it not a meme argument? Are you offended that I pointed out that an argument being made was disingenuous and retarded?

Abolish child support b/c abortion exists

Obviously not. After a man agrees to be father, he can't abandon his kid when it's 5 years old.

The proposed surrender of paternal rights and obligations would have similar time limits as regular fetus-murder.

In progressive states where women can flush out their "blob of cells" until week 34, men would have the legal opt-out until week 30.

In other states they would have to decide before week 12.

Chapo posters are always such whiny pieces of shit.

He meant females. Female men. Trannies. Transmen.

i like this because it's like a perfect gradient of "never heard of being trans" to "totally woke about transpeople"

In the deranged mass of cells known as TITCJ's brain, that was the ultimate gotcha. Poor femdude thought she was finally going to own those nasty MRAs and instead got raped with her own words šŸ˜¢

Gay men already could marry women, I don't know what the fuzz about gay marriage was all about.

Gay men are smart enough not to.

A pregnant woman can get an abortion, and a pregnant man can get an abortion.

White people whose grandfathers could vote are allowed to vote, and black people whose grandfathers could vote are allowed to vote.

Gay men could get married to females before obergefell

TITRC is unironically one of the dumbest people on this website.

Someone rightly pointed out the idiocy of that argument, because it's the exact same argument people who opposed gay marriage used.

"Gay men can already get married if they want to. Now they want special rights to marry a man!"

You want to effectively abolish child support programs because of the fact that women have control over their own body. Makes perfect sense to me. Actually, no, this is going to immediately not be such an awesome and genius idea once you propose it to a group of people not 90% composed of angry young secular right wing males endlessly jerking themselves off. Suddenly you're going to find that people do not accept the clear logic, justice, and reason behind your proposal to abolish child support because abortion. Literally it is a proposal that appeals to no other part of society, than your own identity group. Which for some reason likes to cut away small little spaces on the internet composed 99% of itself and stroke each other off.

At this rate tbh I thing young secular right wing white males are going to become their own species, one day a bussy will evolve that can accept that seed. And then humanity will put you in a spacecraft and shoot you over to the moon, and happily never have to deal with your whiny resentful shit, ever again.

Lol did you have fun putting words in my mouth?

Please sperg out some more

Please sperg out some more

It's words never have any value, but fun to watch the watermark sperg

is going to immediately not be such an awesome and genius idea once you propose it to a group of people not 90% composed of angry young secular right wing males endlessly jerking themselves off

IS AN IDEA SUGGESTED BY FEMINISTS YOU HUGE SUBHUMANS

Laurie Shrage, professor of philosophy and womenā€™s and gender studies, questions whether men should be 'penalized for being sexually active', and she puts the subject in the perspective of feminists who had to fight the same idea with different gender portent, namely that consenting to sexual intercourse is not the same as consenting to parenthood. Furthermore, both men and children are punished, according to professor Shrage; children have to live with an absent father who never 'voluntarily' became a parent

WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE ON THIS WEBSITE?

I have a right to bodily autonomy, to not use it to work for a child I don't want.

their own body.

Actually, it's control over their baby's body, and their right to unilaterally murder that baby, that is the issue.

The right to marry the person you love is not even in the same universe as the right to abandon your alive innocent child

It does, however, give men the right to coat-hanger that child on the off chance that they're trans and pregnant.

God damn, he is such an idiot.

Watching him lose to retards is nice.

I didn't see any evidence of retardation in the opposing arguments. I'm pretty sure this is a pot/kettle situation.

He's a male feminist what did you expect?

The usual, rape and assault

I am sure that is coming.

Well the #metoo is, there is no doubt in my mind he has already committed said crimes.

Pregnant men...?

What is happening?

FACTS and LOGIC

I donā€™t like these facts and logic.

Can we go back to 1952?

šŸ‘ MalešŸ‘ pregnancyšŸ‘ is šŸ‘good šŸ‘and šŸ‘male šŸ‘abortionšŸ‘ should šŸ‘be šŸ‘forbidden.šŸ‘

Mpregnate me daddy

You know a conversation is going to be retarded when it's all about consent.

I think any education on this sort of thing is a good thing. There, however, is far too much ambiguity in all of this, especially if alcohol is involved. Society I think would benefit from a 10 commandment of consent or an acronym or a consent handshake, a phone app that parties can both click boxes on. I'm just brainstorming.

Consentcoin is the next big blockchain project.

Absolutely nobody is going use an app for consent. Nothing kills the mood faster than "hey, we need to do some paperwork" and I garuntee any decent lawyer could say she was coerced of she later regrets it.

The real question is, will they sign a consent transaction onto the chain and wait 30 minutes for 4 confirmation blocks?

IIRC contracts like this aren't even legally binding.

They'd be proof that it was signed, which would be useful evidence even if mot legally binding.

I garuntee any decent lawyer could say she was coerced if she later regrets it.

Alternately somebody actually could coerce her into clicking the consent app. Which obviously would if it were ever taken seriously. Which prevents it from ever being taken seriously.

honestly I was thinking somebody should make an app for consent or something like a pre-sex contract like that chappelle show skit

Find. Way to monetize the woke.

Nothing says "Conservative family values" like fighting for the right to abandon your child.

Conservatives are generally consistent in being against abandoning your child and against killing your child in utero. Liberals think the killing is fine but abandonment is somehow worse than killing.

This leads to weird conversations where liberals say "we need abortion because what if a womyn is raped" But if you ask them what should happen with child support if a man is raped they're like "we'll it's not the child's fault, the man should be forced to pay child support to his rapist".

Right cause outside of reddit many feminists have been supportive of paper abortion. Only in reddit is seen as a MRA talk point for some bizarre reason

It's quite apparent that the fact that financial abortion isn't a thing is a result of our collective dislike of a welfare state above "the best interests of the child." Because all we're talking about here is the financial support of the child, because men already don't have an inherent obligation to raise it, just financially support it. Both parents can give up financial obligations if they agree to it; if both parents want to put their child up for adoption, they will no longer be on the financial hook. There is already a process of terminating legal parental rights if both parents consent to it.

The only issue that these anti-choice people seem to have is when one parent wants it and the other doesn't, in this instance, when the man wants it and the woman doesn't. Suddenly, this existing financial infrastructure to support children being put up for adoption is no longer sufficient. It's borne out of society's perception that men are to be the breadwinner and to financially support their children. Really both sides could be happy if any extra funds is going to the mother from the state rather than the father himself, like exactly what is happening with couples who adopt, but that's not good enough apparently because so many feminists become hypercapitalistic when they see men becoming advantaged through something.

Good job bobby, here's a star

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this but unironically

I always said that transwomen are the only reasonable women as a result of experiencing the world from both viewpoints.

Counterpoint: any girl gamer group.

Gamers tho.

Huh decent take on drama?

Who would have thought it

that guy is really fucking dumb, Jesus....

The old "I'm a virgin but the idea of child support is scary" argument. A reddit classic.

The old "Ive never been sexually assaulted but the thought of rape keeps me from interacting with strangers" argument. A classic.

Show us on the doll where the foid wouldn't touch you

Everywhere.

Everywhere.

Losing my kids is a hell of a lot more scary to me than losing a few hundred dollars per month, I donā€™t know how that can happen to someone and they not be suicidal

For the love of God, Tits isn't a Menslib mod. Tits is basically an MRA compared to Menslib. As weird as this is to believe, there are bigger cucks on the internet than Tits and naturally they are internet moderators as well.

>there are bigger cucks on the internet than Tits

doubtful

>and naturally they are internet moderators as well.

only way this statement could be true

As weird as this is to believe, there are bigger cucks on the internet than Tits

Literally the most awful thing I have read this month

drinking game

take shot every time you see 'innocent'

I don't wanna die

Every child is guilty of somethin'.

Imagine losing an arguement centered around if child abandonment is a God-given right.

Is that your first time on that sub? Many arguments made by feminists are lost to MRAs.

SMH. If you're against legal paternal surrender, you're against a transgender woman's right to choose.

Making fun of takeittorcirclejerk is cheating

You do realize that getting a bunch of secular stupid young right wing males on reddit to click the upvote button is not the same as winning the argument don't you? Like literally you've just come up with a fancy way of saying "Child support should be entirely voluntary on the part of the man". And you're using the existence of abortion as a justification for it? Holy fuck shit are you an entitled, whiny piece of shit.

Like, again, who the fuck is this legislation targeted towards? 90% of the right is not going to vote for it because they want to "promote" family and ban abortion and voting for something who's argument is based on giving men an "abortion" option (i.e. making child support fully voluntary, in non-retardese). And obviously the left isn't going to vote for something that literally penalizes women for possessing control over their own body, in a petty attempt at artificial, imposed "equality" for the poor poor oppressed deadbeat dads of the world. Step outside of your 90% young white right wing male sphere and you're going to get laughed out of the fucking room. And you're probably going to come out fuming, write a stupid blog about how awful normies (i.e. non-participants the circlejerk of your own single identity group), and blame on Jews or Hillary Clinton. When it really is just because you're a worthless piece of shit. Sorry.

It's funny how in every other instance the right is against artificial equity solutions like this, that try to smooth out inequalities that are the result of inherent natural differences. But when it comes to one that just happens to fuck women over, reddits male circlejerk is all over it and considers it the greatest thing since their last fart.

How about this: if a man gets a woman pregnant, he has to pay child support no matter what. Like if the woman gets an abortion, it's just free money for the next 20 years. I like that solution personally.

All them words won't bring your pa back.

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And I want to repeat: an ultramajority of adults, men and women, totally agree with me here

The "ultramajority" agrees with him, what an authoritarian.

"Seeing a TITC post"

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