in the case of the MCU, I feel invested at this point and I need to at least see how Avengers 4 ends.

MasterLawlz everyone. Invested in a capeshit franchise aimed at the lowest common denominator in the West and China. Well if you're invested, may as well spend your neetbux on CGI talking trees or fart jokes in the middle of the final boss fight.

You do what you gotta do, buddy. We all got our interests, I suppose.

The alternate ending of HIMYM was wayyy better... actually more tidy, more in tune with the theme of the show, and didn't fucking lift Robin up as a good love interest.

FUUUUUCK, that's HIMYM ended? Jesus.

Kids, over the next 9 years I want to tell you the story of how I met your mother how badly I want your permission to fuck Aunt Robin.

Also kinda going into detail about how Robin was unstable and distant in relationships (not just with Ted). If I heard that story from my da I'd be like "yo delete that number and hit the gym."

Or you could've just read who's the mother on Wikipedia in twenty seconds instead of wasting hours of your worthless life on a shitty show.

Watching it live over the course of multiple horrid seasons in order to immediately see who the mother is instead of waiting 5 extra minutes for the wikipedia page to update.

Hard to argue with such Einstein levels of logic.

That show was somehow worse than Big Bang Theory. Truly testing the limits lf how sitcoms could be even more terrible.

Honestly same

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I don't have the time in my life to watch 6 mediocre movies about assholes in spandex each year.

So many people are hating on everybody who says they don't like capeshit. It's like a fucking religion, it's like the Muslims going apeshit because you talked about their prophet.

I wonder if they have any sort of idea that to people who don't enjoy capeshit and didn't grow around it for whatever reasons. A bunch of grown up men obsessed with spandex- underwear-over-yoga-pants-wearing-dudes is kinda gay and very, very childish. And there's a million more things to do than sit around watching whatever is on tv and indulging in the most ridiculous kinds of fairy tales.

Just because you think smt is cool doesn't mean it is.

I liked the first two Nolan Batman movies and each superhero movie since has been worse than the previous one.

Hopefully they stop making 25 a year sooner rather than later.

The third has some things to recommend it.

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I don’t “hate” capeshit, it’s just that most capeshit movies have the thematic depth of wet tissue paper.

We had the War on Drugs and the War on Terror. But it took Wonder Woman to give us the War on War.

Wait, you were expecting that out of a fucking Wonder Woman movie?

Jeez man, just enjoy the fine isreali titties and don't think so hard.

I guess i just know enough about Wonder Woman that i was expecting Aries the whole time. Cause, yeah.

It was mildly surprising who it turned out to be at the very end, but i was jinda expecting a twist cause playing it straight would be TOO obvious.

Yeah, they're typical Hollywood blockbusters. Since when were entertaining movies supposed to be deep, as well?

themes are for faggots. life is meaningless.

Yours sure

this is literally the most retarded take ive ever read here. lmao. you realize we're in the era of remake movies and you're complaining super hero movies are predictable? lmao. every movie is predictable.

Honestly if cape shit is done high(er) brow I very much enjoy it. If it's just cgi fighting them it's honestly kind of boring... But for real if Perót figured out that everyone on the train wanted to kill that SOB and happened to wear a cape and get into one or two fights then yeah I'm entertained.

A good cape shit movie has to be one thing first... An actual good movie with discernable motives of characters, a readable plot, some sort of stakes, and a reasonable conclusion.

Are you suggesting that Poirot novels/movies are highbrow?

Shakespeare was considered low brow and folkish at the time... Your point?

Shakespeare was considered low brow and folkish at the time

Not really. Just some parts of the plays, which is why Dryden, eg, edited them rather liberally.

I just thought it was odd that you considered Agatha Christie highbrow. She's great, but pretty solidly middle- to lowbrow. Patricia Highsmith might make for a better example.

Never heard of highsmith... I'll check that out though.

But I will maintain the low brow nature of the Plays... They are solid but they were designed to keep a hoi polloi audience engaged. I think they were crafted well in that mold but it certainly had an eye for an unsophisticated audience first and foremost. Why I put the (er) after the word high lol

Aristorcratic patron and burghers were a more important audience than the groundlings. And stuff like the Palmer's Sonnet in R&J, for instance, are much more central to the actual drama than Mercutio and Romeo clowning about geese (vaginas).

In any case, I don't think a work is necessarily lowbrow for being popular. Beethoven and Byron and Tolstoy were the biggest celebrities of their days.

Also Byron had a fucking bread as a pet. So he wins.

They were going to make him the King of Greece, too, but he caught a fever and died.

Ehh that wasn't going to happen in reality. The AH empire put a hard pass on a British royal on their fringe.

Though if he did the civil war might've never happened splitting the PM in Thesaloniki and the king in Athens.

Agatha Christie's novels may not have been highbrow themselves, but the TV movies made after her novels are pretty highbrow by television standards. Her writing is also better than what most TV writers can accomplish.

Capeshit was too childish for me even when I was a child.

How thick are the rims of your glasses?

As if those aren't exactly the kind of people who have 20 pounds of comic books in their closet that they derived everything they know about politics from.

Those people are the ones "don't own a TV" and revel in the idea that they do not subscribe to any media considered mainstream. The fact that these movies gross billions already excludes their participation. What kinda cool underground shit are you into?

Foreign soap operas and shitposting. 😎

Korean, Nigerian, or all of the above?

Korean, Japanese, maybe some Colombian every now and then.

Im gonna defend myself here although I am not the person being originally addressed.

I didn't grow up in the US, so the whole capeshit stuff was really alien to me, the mostly big city settings and this obsession about american presidents or cities being attacked was absolutely ridiculously paranoid to me. Specially when I grew older, when I realized the US is the bully towards most of the rest of the world and had funded dictatorship in South America. Where I'm from, I grew up around nature, but also plagued by a life in a poor country. You grow up a bit quicker.

It doesn't mean im a pretentious person who hates TV and thinks everything that's mainstream is bad. But to many people the whole thing about there being one spandex wearing, cocky bastard who is super strong savior dude is unrelatable to a lot of people, in so many levels. Everything is so US focused and idk, there is something about this cocky super powerful creature that just doesn't fly in some cultures.

I think it's the opposite. You like it because you grew up watching it and hearing about it your entire life. To the rest of the world, if they didn't grow up thinking that is normal they will find that very weird later on and find it even weirder to see adults going nuts over those same spandex, underwear over pants, cape wearing cocky dudes. Like nah.

Wow, you must be a JP fan

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Mythical stories featuring casts full of individuals with fantastic powers are about as old as storytelling itself.

Let's not pretend now that this concept is something new and alien cause we want to get up on a pedestal. It's popular because it appeals to the masses, the same way stories have time and time again.

That is not at all what I meant. Every "society" or culture has indeed fantastic beings, absurd stories, heroes doing incredible feats.

What I am saying is that if you are not from that particular culture the story will be hard to relate to or even sound ridiculous because you didn't grow up around it.

What this means is that for me, forest kid who grew up near the forest in a countryside 3rd world country right after dictatorship. The whole america is in danger, they wanna kill the president, spandex, high buildings and crime in a big city. Was unrelatable.

And I can only imagine it's unrelatable for other people too. Like if i told them the stories of my people, they would find it silly too.

To me, because of my cultural background, it's just impossible to relate, kinda racist, USA-centric and just alien to my experience...

And I can only imagine it's unrelatable for other people too. Like if i told them the stories of my people, they would find it silly too.

One thing that gets me is this conflation of finding something silly and not relating to it. This is where I get weird vibes from your answer.

Sorry but this concept of content being so alien that one could never relate to it is definitely antithetical to the US culture so maybe that's where our disconnect is coming from. Our pop culture has icons that originate from all sorts of stories and cultures throughout history.

If you can't convince of a culture were a "superman" story is unrelatable, then i think you haven't been around much.

This is unrelated to superheroes, but a good example of how cultures can clash, because they're different. To a woman in Yemen, leaving her husband behind, going to look for work, demanding child support and accusing her husband of pedophilia is almost unthinkable. However if this happened in the west, this would be route of action considered normal and expected if somebody found that a 45 years old man, is having babies with a 12 years old girl who is housebound and not attending school. Want an example. jaycee Lee Dugard, i hope im saying her name right, was kept as a hostage and suffered sexual abuse from this older pedolhile crazy guy who had a wife. If this was happening in some small town in Yemen, this would just be considered traditional marriage.

The same way, a spandex wearing super rich dude who can do everything, came from a different planet, disguises by changing his hairdo and taking of his glasses to nit be caught and is also immune to bullets, is not my idea of a relatable hero. And it's not that people don't like heroes, people love a story about someone who escaped extreme poverty by effort, and good winning against evil stories and stories about justice.

I honestly have absolutely no idea how you can think that every culture can relate to DC/Marvel superheroes, or won't find it weird or silly. The way it's presented matters too.

All those words won't bring daddy back.

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the early-mid 90's comic story lines were pretty dark. super man was dead and there was a bio-mechanical virus from the future eating all of the x-men. OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

and Spawn was a mercenary from hell and Venom was eating peoples skulls.

please understand the 90s!!

Huh that kind of seems like the Worm series.

This, but unironically

tbf only a small minority of the characters actually wear capes. Batman/Robin, Superman there's really not that many. Storm?

This sub is for serious Dramas. Capeshit is more of the action/adventure genre.

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God-fucking-dammit. I almost had, too.

Ahahaha

The last capeshit movie i watched was Age of Ultron, and i was done after that.

Honestly i dont think anyone can blame you for that one

Age of Ultron made me realize that I never really liked the first Avengers movie, either.

Holy fuck same.

Yeah same boat here. Had no interest in another MCU film or superhero film after that.

capeshit is gay. end of story

Cape shit is a product of nerd culture and nerd culture is defined as the fetishization of pop culture and science. It’s the dominant american culture. see: comic book movies are ubiquitous, graphic novels are hip, tv and binge-watching is suddenly cool. as for science, people routinely ‘cite studies’ they read about online and share ‘fuck yeah science’ things on Facebook

Nerd culture is the latest incarnation of capitalism/spectacle. it’s consumerist based - buy the complete comic book/dvd box set/card game/whatever - and its morality system is amoral and nonprescriptivist. science doesn’t prescribe. it just tells. this is the perfect religion for capitalism as it doesn’t interfere with anything (no marixist popes in science).

The fetishization of pop culture and science is a schizophrenic strategy for attempting to reorder society and produce meaning in a world where religion and statism are largely discredited. it’s schizophrenic in the sense that it bounces back and forth between the opposites of absolute significance (science) and absolute insignificance (entertainment/fiction).

This strategy is a further evolution/incarnation of western dualism: not only is their MIND and BODY (completely separate!) but now there is TRUTH (science) and ENTERTAINMENT (pop culture).

This dualistic split bankrupts both and, on average, probably makes people sad and unhappy. science without a story is just numbers (meaningless) and entertainment without “truth” (using the term very loosely to signify the fact that we want our stories to be real in ‘some way’…but not necessarily nonfiction…i.e. if i’m a greek in 500 BC, i don’t necessarily think athena is physically real but real in some other sense that doesn’t necessarily preclude physical manifestation) is just bubblegum (tasty but not nutritious).

This tendency was probably latent for most of the 20th century but religion clung on until the bitter end, stifling it.

Ultimately nerd culture, like all culture, is an attempt to solve/deal with the human condition (produce meaning). Unlike most cultures, however, which do it with “true stories” (religion), nerd culture does it with “true” and “stories.” (probably the most important point)

Stories without truth are probably what produce the spectacle in the first place. in other words, a culture based around a greek/christian/buddhist/whatever cosmology can exist on JUST those myths for seemingly centuries. modernity, on the other hand, needs 1000 movies, 1000 books, 1000 blogs a year. this is, really interestingly i think, great for capitalism because spiritual hunger produces jobs (journalism, hollywood, novelists, web developers, and on and on and on).

If religion was the opiate of the masses, capeshit is a fistful of NSAIDs taken to stop the headaches resulting from withdrawal. It takes away some of the pain but ultimately causes stomach bleeding.

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I unironically think autism has a role in this cultural decay

or more likely a fanfic

capeshit = religion - social truth

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modernity, on the other hand, needs 1000 movies, 1000 books, 1000 blogs a year

Or modernity just enables it, because unlike 500 years ago we aren't 99% of us peasants working on farms with no time to write.

Also it's not like secular fiction is brand new, Shakespeare wrote it too. Although you are right that more people read the bible back then.

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I love that someone who can write something as 👁woke👁 as this also posts in r/blacktraps

xD I LOVE SCIENCE XD

Is this Ted Kaczynski's Reddit account?

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I grew up in a 3rd world country, reality there is just too raw and you can't be deluded for half of your day indulging on TV and fantasies or life will run you over.

You need to grow up be an adult and stop dreaming there is some super-cock-master who comes and saves people from crime. Nope. That's BS and you will hurt yourself by isolating yourself and living while day dreaming.

Superheroes have replaced religion, because people still need something ridiculously powerful to worship and believe in.

Also Americas obsession with being number 1, is a toxic poison in the water that turns everyone to zombies who can only think in absolutes and be obsessed with this "number one" idea. Who is the fastest, strongest, evilest, best, worst, most righteous etc so on... And its very ridiculous, because by age 11 you should learn things are not black and white and people have different talents in different degrees but everyone has their own worth. Instead people focus not even in who in reality possesses these characteristics, but prefer to idolize and worship something that's not even real

I've never been interested in capeshit and never will be. I tried to give it a try and it didn't work out. Also The Watchmen is one of the lamest movies I've ever seen

The Watchmen

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How do you feel about starshit and elfshit? I enjoy both but for some reason just hate comic books.

I've recently been warming up to starshit and grew up on elfshit but stopped reading it as a teen because the writing was terrible 99% of the time. But comic books and films are just unappealing on a basic level. idg the appeal of people in costumes punching baddies. It's even worse than writers try to make it 'gritty'; it's like putting lipstick on a pig.

Whenever the "gritty" capeshit movies try to explain why a superhero needs a dorky costume made of leather or spandex, I die inside.

"grittyness" is basically the only thing that made these films palatable for grown adults in the first place. it's just a lazy tool for filmmakers to make their awful movies "realistic" by appealing to western society's inherent cynicism, even though the films themselves are ultimately entirely unrealistic.

This is an A+ take

hotter take: grittyness is at its core about fulfilling male power fantasies through the auspices of "realism", which is the reason why nerds get upset when they complain that the presence of women or minorities or whatever in whatever film/video game is completely unrealistic. 90% of the time, whatever media is being whined over is entirely unrealistic to begin with which never really was the issue; it's that the presence of women/minorities etc. detracts from their desire to see their male power fantasies played out.

I dont know elfshit well enough to give my opinion, but starshit and capeshit annoy me to no end. Theres nothing special or intelligent about it Its literally safe old bets on safe old stuff that wilk bring money

I have always, always hated capeshit & starshit.

All my life

iirc, you have a vagina, right? Probably explains it.

Not that there's anything wrong with having a vagina, it's just that caprshit, by and large is made by and for dudes. Which, there's nothing wrong with either, but it makes sense that it wouldn't resonate with you the same way it does for the target audience.

Not sure how to change that. The current belief on the Marvel Comics side seems to be that you can just do a gender swap and the ladies will come flocking, but i don't think so. I think it needs a fundamental switch in storytelling and focus.

You know, i don't think it's that, i grew up doing martial arts, competing in it in a serious way, joined the military when i got older. I was just doing the typical dude's stuff my entire life. Hunting, tracking, fishing, fighting, shooting, and being manlier than mist boys I knew.

Still tho, i could never relate with the capeshit or starshit because it just seemed all so fake and unexciting. Specially as someone who actually fought competitively for almost a decade the fights looked retarded AF. Everything looked retarded AF, also why the gay as fuck spandex shit. No decent man i had ever met who was strong and good at fighting would wear that shit.

Can you imagine just how much you'd sweat if you'd fight wearing tight latex or spandex clothing from top to bottom.

Idfk there's just so much wrong with capeshit if you are a realist

I don't think you understood my point.

The thing about capeshit is that it tends to tap into unconscious themes that appeal to dudes. Yeah it's fake, but if you're into it, if it scratches a specific itch for you, then you don't mind that it's fake. And generally speaking the itch that most superhero fiction is geared toward is a dude thing.

It's something i've noticed most recently while reading chinese fantasy webnovels. Cause they tend to be more explicit about seperating the stuff written for women from the stuff written for men. And i noticed that the fantasy novels written for men tend to have the same general themes and tropes that escapist superhero stuff over here in the west does, even though the actual setting and worldbuilding mechanics are very different. And the stuff written for women tends to not have those tropes and is quite different from the chinese webnovels for dudes even though they share the same setting and mechanics.

It's not a hard and fast rule, obviously. There are exceptions both in terms of stories that aren't like that, and fans that share/don't share those tastes. But overall, you can kinda see the trends if you read enough of this stuff.

It could be a dude's thing, but it's also like you said escapism and this guy who has a boring life, but secretly he is the talk of the town, adored by many, hated by many too.

I think it's an escapist fantasy where men can run away from life to, and feel relevant. Some men really can't deal with feeling like they are irrelevant, or uncool. This is why school shootings happen, this is why many typical male behaviors happen.

I hate saying this word but, I think comics, 20 or so years ago, were considered nerd/beta male stuff, not today because today is like every body has a fever about superheroes (and i think it's millennials feelings of being powerless socially, politically, economically driving that, or the fact they grew up on it.)

This is also not a straight cut. But, I grew up around people who were truly physically powerful, and I haven't seen a comic in sight, or a poster in these people's room, passed the age of 10. I think these people were encouraged to play outside, constantly get better and better physically, they weren't the guys getting bullied, they didn't feel powerless so IMO. Neither did I or did them, feel the need to run to a fantasy place.

Girls go princess, guys go superheroes when they wanna feel better about themselves. But truly I think that is slowly poisoning everyone. Because we are destroying any perspective on how you can be yourself a hero, in real life. Real life has heroes. But all that matters is flashy bang bang, explosions and the title of "the most [insert skill] guy in the DC/Marvel universe" and then they make so many pandering alternative universes to pander to everybody's favourite that it's absolutely disgusting

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I hate saying this word but, I think comics, 20 or so years ago, were considered nerd/beta male stuff, not today because today is like every body has a fever about superheroes (and i think it's millennials feelings of being powerless socially, politically, economically driving that, or the fact they grew up on it.)

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lol, no.

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Comics are still nerd/"beta male" shit. The difference is that now, thanks to the tech boom, nerds are the successful ones with billion dollar dicks to swing. So the mainstream has shifted to following what nerds like. Not just because they have the money to spend, but also because they have come to be seen as the example of who people admire and want to be. Nobody wants to be the dude who peaked in the high school. They want to be that "dork" in the hoodie who makes half a billion on an IPO.

I think I've expressed this in every post but you guys still manage to ignore that I'm coming from a different cultural background than yours and yoh really have to bear this in mind.

Where you are, maybe those things are still considered nerd or beta male.

Broadly speaking however the amount of people going to the cinema to watch capeshit, is too large, it's too many people to not be considered mainstream anymore. Nobody will really judge you for being over 30 and going to watch the newest cape-something movie. That's just a fact.

About money, yeah people love money and money & social status go together hand in hand so I agree with you. Gaming has become mainstream, consoles have become a lot more popular than they were in 2001, your granny has some game she plays, your 3 years old nephew has a couple games on his tablet, the bimbo next door has se game in her phone. Although we can be like "Aaschhtually that's not real gaming". But even if we ignore phone games, we can't deny people are leaving home later, more and more consoles & games are being sold. The gaming community has a much larger reach these days.

It's not nerdy to have a console anymore & its not nerdy to go see the new capeshit movie. That's just how it is, and if we are gonna disagree on that so be it. But being 30 in 1990 and watching the batman movie in the cinema & being crazy about it was a sure ticket to being called a betamale nerd neckbeard, than watching the new DC/Marvel whatever movie is at the cinema today and being a fan today is not rly considered very nerdy and a lot of people with no previous interest in comics are jumping into the bandwagon and are not the "nerd" we commonly think about.

Denying that is kinda dishonest imo.

And I will also say being smart today is very essential socially, people are a lot quicker to shun somebody who isn't "woke" in their opinion and you see a lot of "intelligence signaling" like a subtype of Virtue Signaling because like you said nobody wants to be the HS Chad.

Another side of that, is that people who are trying to be nerdy because it's trendy brings droves of dumb people who are clearly dumb into discussions they would otherwise not participate in. Example : antivaxxers, flat earthers and their kind, calling everyone else dumb for not being "woke" and sounding extremely retarded while they d that, but that's another subject altogether

I've known more coherent downies.

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> I think I've expressed this in every post but you guys still manage to ignore that I'm coming from a different cultural background than yours and yoh really have to bear this in mind.

>Where you are, maybe those things are still considered nerd or beta male.

>Broadly speaking however the amount of people going to the cinema to watch capeshit, is too large, it's too many people to not be considered mainstream anymore.

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What I'm trying to get across is that something can be nerdy and mainstream at the same time. It's like if Duck Dynasty suddenly became mainstream. Hunting wouldn't suddenly stop being a "country thing" just because a bunch of dudes in New York start wearing camo. And more relevant to this conversation, in understanding why camo patterns exist, you would still need to relate them to forests and outdoor imagery.

To talk about capeshit without understanding that it's always been a male nerd fantasy is like arguing that camo pattern windbreakers are dumb because 90% of the people wearing have never been anywhere near a forest.

what I find ironic is that Disney would never in a million years make a movie like the first iron man...

... yet they’ve been piggybacking off of it for years

Unironically best argument about current state of capeshit movies

I find it funny how Iron Man tried so hard to make superheros not seem corny and childish by incorporating real world politics and shit into the story. I remember that being everyone's excuse for liking it back then.

Now it's literally just a live action version of a kid slamming action figures together and adults feel no shame in watching these movies unironically. (((They've))) somehow made the basement-dweller lifestyle socially acceptable. If we keep going in this direction, 50 years from now everyone is going to be a mouth-breathing autist.

So the whole world will be /r/drama users?

Im not from the US, the whole super-hero, aka capeshit idea, I mean the WHOLE OF IT. Is retarded and childish. Most kids from my generation did not grow up on this shit and the ones who did all grew out of it by age 7.

Like ffs, nobody i knew who's hit puberty would want to be seen in a room that is (insert capeshit title) decorated, if youre 30 and still into capeshit, where i am from, people will be polite enough to not say anything but they will think you're a fucking retard and your capeshit decorated room has remained like that because you aint fucking nobody

Even when I was a kid I thought superheroes were for nerds

Capeshit has gotten to the point where I like watching more off-the-wall stuff because at least it has some character and you can see the director's fingerprints on it. Capeshit is held to a lower standard, when really it should be held to an even higher standard of filmmaking than a book adaptation or an original story, because the director has everything needed. They know what the characters look like, what the sets should look like, characterization, story runs, plot beats, etc. So really the resulting movie should be polished to perfection so it's frustrating to see such little effort go into these movies.

It was never my favorite; I think because "good guy with fantastical power beats bad guy" gets boring as a movie plot real quick for me. But the fact that they can milk these things so hard with 2+ "blockbusters" per year makes me dislike them more.

Is deadpool capeshit?

If it is I like some capeshit, if it isnt I never quite liked it

Of course deadpool is capeshit.

being one of those "deadpool" guys is almost worst than just liking all capeshit

Deadpool guys and Harley Quinn girls should be forced to marry exclusively as to spare the rest of us

Sterlized to boot.

I felt that went without saying

The first deadpool movie was... alright. The 'lelelel 4th wall' jokes got bring halfway through the movie.

capeshit fingered my bussy w/o my consent😖😖😖

This but metaphorically.

Liked it at first, sick of it now

Personally, what I like about superhero movies is generally the same thing I like about anime. That as a genre, it's broad enough to encompass all other genres. Just with things dialed up enough to be interesting.

Like you can have a rom-com superhero movie. A western superhero movie. A buddy cop superhero movie. You can literally make any movie you want as a superhero movie.

And for all their faults, you have to admit that Marvel seems to have hit on the formula for cranking out moderately enjoyable summer blockbusters with enough room for individual creativity. Compare the first Captain America, which is basically a bog-standard WWII war movie, to Thor:Ragnarok, which is a trippy 70s prog-rock spectacular. Both are very different movies, but grounded in enough solid b-movie level craftsmanship that they are at least not actively shitty. I just hope Disney doesn't ruin things by crushing the creativity that makes it all sorta work.

likes animoo and capeshit

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there are different genres within capeshit

imagine thinking that if superman puts on a cowboy hat it's a western. you seem to have hit on the formula for cranking out absolutely retarded posts

I have no opinion on capeshit, I've read like one comic ever but lots of interesting tv has come from comics (preacher, iZombie, etc).

Caepshit is like dragon ball z, it was initially awesome and new. Unfortunately 75 iterations later and we've hit bedrock.

Sam Raimi is an incredible director and his entire Spider Man trilogy (that's right even Spider Man 3!) are great movies that stand on their own. Marvel Universe or not. Sam Raimi possesses the ability to make his movies quotable whether we're talking evil dead or spidah mang.

"BONE-SAW IS REA-DY!!!"

Only good capeshit is from Snyder because it really upsets the manchildren since it’s the only modern day superhero with no epic references or quips

This.

Capeshit is only good when it either mocks capeshit(Deadpool) or tries as hard as it can to distance itself from being capeshit(Nolan Batman).

We're contrarians. We hate anything. We're worse than that: we're hipsters.

I hate hipsters tho

Never liked it, even as a kid. Because it's just fucking retarded. People don't have superpowers.

And before you say "but I bet you like <other_thing_that_requires_suspension_of_disbelief>", only capeshit makes up something retarded like some faggot being bitten by a radioactive spider giving him superpowers and then additionally rams it in to modern day.

Yeah, right, some twat with spiderwebs jizzing from his arms can fly around New York kicking asses of criminals. Medieval or scifi fantasy are set in different worlds/times, but capeshit forces you right from the beginning to swallow a hot load of setting-dissonance right from the start.

And then usually the characters are teenage-girl level cringe with their shit one-liners and complete lack of intelligence; resorting to their literal established-from-the-start Deus Ex Machina powers to resolve any conflict. Not to mention anyone who watches 99% of capeshit movies and can't predict the ending before it even starts is a retard.

And finally if this triggers the long post bot, it can frankly fuck off, it's unfunny cancer ❌❌🚫🚫

Do you need irl friends?

You sure?

When people judge me for reading YA shit* (they're absolutely right) but then proceed to get hype for the latest capeshit.

The only thing that capeshit does better than YA is that it doesn't have cringy sex scenes.

*Young Adult fantasy shit for teenage girls and lonely middle aged women.

These types of movies are generally bad, but MCU is somehow still better than nearly anything else with a $100 million budget.

Guardians 1, Black Panther, and Infinity War were all genuinely enjoyable and actually told decent stories. Disney is capable of producing good blockbusters, they just don't do it very often.

Guardians 1 [was] genuinely enjoyable

Yeah that's a fuckin' lie. Guardians 1 is when I realized all capeshit is garbage.

The movie is literally a comedy but nothing in it is funny, and the drama is completely subverted by all the shitty attempts at comedy. The same story plays out for pretty much every MCU film.

Black panthers story had a million holes in. Its conflicts are literally based on nothing but contrivances.

Why did the OG black panther not just tell everyone else in wakanda he killed his brother when he had proof of his betrayal and the fact that he attacked fellow wakadans? Why did he not just take his brother's son with him or at least make sure he was taken care of if he really felt that bad about it?

Why didn't tchalla tell his friend that the villain kidnapped their target? Had he did that the friend wouldn't have been supporting him and the villain wouldn't have gotten any support from other wakandans and he wouldn't have any way to take the throne.

Movie was just contrivance after contrivance.

/u/darqwolff let him know why marvel movies are so great

I was thinking about this the other day. On the one hand, I hate capeshit because it's lazily written and the performances are all mailed in. But I think it goes deeper than that.

Big budget blockbusters don't take themselves seriously anymore. Go through the list of the biggest budgeted and highest grossing films from the 40s to the 70s, and a lot of them are epics and dramas. Granted, some are musicals, which I loathe, but a good number of them took themselves seriously and attempted to portray some depiction of subjects worth taking seriously.

Now what do we have? Capeshit and starshit. Everything is being made for the lowest common denominator (and the Chinese, but I repeat myself). All these capeshit movies try to add at least one joke every couple of minutes. And none of the jokes are funny; these films end up being a shitty compromise between being comedic and serious. And for some reason, critics eat this shit up. Probably because it's harmful to their career if they criticize the schlock that's being eaten up by the public at large right now.

I love capeshit. I used to get in fights on the bus for school over being a fan of capeshit and other nerd stuff. HOWEVER...

I hate the fans of capeshit like I hate the fans of pro wrestling. When it's popular, all the shit you like is now mainstream, which is nice but now it gives dorks a false confidence boost which makes them even worse. When it fades a bit, the only fans are gross unkempt losers that I don't want to spend 20 seconds around.

Superman and Superman II are fucking great. Personally I quite like Superman III too if only just to guess how much blow Richard Pryor did before each scene. Oh and Pamela Stephenson was suprisingly hot back in the day.

I always thought it was fucking dumb. A mate kept going on about this new one that would change my mknd called The Watchmen. I was so red faced that he thought this was deep, it reeks of edgy teen angst. The rest all look aimed at the ADHD generation.

Yeah, people really need to stop recommending Watchmen to non comic fans. First, it only really makes sense if you've read all of the shit that is being referenced. Second, most of its relevance is as a commentary on 80s America. Like the country coming to grips with racism/sexism with a backdrop of cold war paranoia and the military industrial complex. It’s really more cyberpunk than anything else.

Also, the movie sucks giant balls. Giant blue Dr Manhattan balls. The graphic novel had more time and space to fully explore all the crazy ass shit involved. I mean, they just cut out the whole plotline of the alien hoax that Ozymandias is generating with a cruise ship full of scifi writers, hollywood special effects wizzes, and actual scientists.

Not to mention the movie spawned all those fucking dumbasses who act like Rorshach is the hero of the piece. For fucks sake, he's an ugly ratfaced pervert loser with no job.

The amount of times that shitty "I'm not stuck in here with you, your stuck in here with me" shit is said in the cringiest of ways is only matched by all the sad fuck junkies who pretend to the joker and harley from batman.

real talk

much like an*me, vidya, or fantasy rpg shit, some capeshit can be pretty good popular entertainment, and a teensy-tiny fraction of it can even tickle the fringes of thought-provoking adult literature. But the overwhelming majority of it is disposable trash entertainment product for children and adolescents.

Thing is (again like other fandom nerds), there is this sizable contingent of people who are really, really into this shit, and incredibly defensive and hypersensitive about it. And they love to evangelize how Watchmen proves that all capeshit is basically the same as Mahler, Shakespeare, and the Taj Mahal, in terms of cultural achievement.

which makes them great lolcows because they completely flip out when you point out that their collection of figurines is children's toys, and that most of their comics are trash, both of which are just stating facts.

What's more, those people who are a constant hair-trigger away from cooking up a giant feast of outraged spaghetti, also happen to have an extremely high correlation with incel/altright/weeb/neet/loli/male feminist etc

WORM was pretty good. The beginning is kind of boring, but it's good around arc 3. Currently reading the much better sequel WARD.

Wow, are you really namedropping Worm right now?

I mean, it's ok for what it is, but come the fuck on.

worm does almost everything right that capeshit does wrong, fight me

i will fight you

worm certainly tries to fix a lot of stuff that capeshit does wrong, but then just gets most of it wrong differently. two examples.

Regular capeshit: everyone keeps getting resurrected and the whole continuity rebooted, there's almost no drama any more since the stakes are fake.
Worm: people die when they are killed, but the whole thing keeps escalating instead and there's still almost no drama any more because no matter what the big boss is today I keep expecting another bigger boss to pop out, and then maybe 900 clones of the previous big boss

Regular capeshit: everyone carries idiot balls so they can keep fighting each other and never improve the world Worm: everyone carries in-character idiot balls induced by aliens to keep fighting each other anyway and still not improve the world

Regular capeshit: why don't you all get some therapy. you need it.
Worm: why don't you all get some therapy. you need it even more.

MCU may be capeshit, but most of the other capeshits today are way worse.

I was excited when Spiderman was just coming out. Mumblemouth Tuby Maguire ruined it, and all other capeshit movies for me. Black panther delivered a level of cringe that has made it impossible to recover any sort of dignity.

Studios will never top The Dark Knight or even the original Iron Man. They just keep making more films with the same formula and people will watch them. They cant make a good villain or antihero movie. It is never anything that has moral complexity or addresses a different take on what being a hero means. I want a movie where the main character is an asshole who becomes a bigger asshole by the end of it, like Family Man.

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This beats Ant Man.