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:marseycoo!mersnipe: :marseycruisemiss!ile: Israeli settlers illegally occupy Christian village near Bethlehem, :marseyimmaculate: force residents out at gunpoint :marseycruisemissile: :marseycoomersnipe:

https://www.indcatholicnews.com/news/50437

Historian William Dalrymple writes: "The Israelis are eliminating one of the last Christian Palestinians strongholds in the West Bank and the place I chose to stay when I was researching the Palestinian Christians in From the Holy Mountain. It is a place with an incredibly ancient history, a cradle of Christianity, and its people have some of the closest DNA matches to the people of the time of Christ. Why is no one reporting this?"

On X (Twitter ) he writes: "Israeli Finance Minister Smotrich officially announces building a new settlement in Jabal al-Makhrur in the town of Beit Jala near Bethlehem. The settlers and the army have begun expelling the citizens and declaring it a closed military zone. Many of its residents are holding a sit-in in a tent and refuse to leave despite all the attacks. This is one of the last Christian Palestinian villages."

And this is also in the same week that Christian prayer services have been banned on Mount Tabor:

This regrettable stance is not isolated; comparable obstructions have also marred other sacred events, including Saturday of the Holy Light in Jerusalem. It is incumbent upon the Israeli authorities to uphold the inviolable rights of freedom of worship, access to holy sites, and the unimpeded performance of religious ceremonies-rights that are both inherent and guaranteed by international law to the indigenous Christian community in the holy land.

Within the last year attacks on Israeli Christians have also increased:

The findings are part of a report by the Jerusalem-based Rossing Center, called Attacks on Christians in Israel and East Jerusalem, which examined the increase in hostilities towards Churches and their members in 2023.

This included "a worrying increase in severe property and physical assaults" affecting communities in Jerusalem's Old City.

Speaking to Aid to the Church in Need (ACN), Hana Bendcowsky from the Rossing Center divided up the problems faced by Christians in the region into 'smash' and 'squeeze', terms used by human rights observers.

"The 'smash' describes incidents such as the attack on the Church of the Flagellation, where a statue was smashed with a hammer", she explained.

These violent attacks are mostly carried out by marginalised young ultra-Orthodox Jewish men with hardline-nationalist views, she added, stressing however that "even among the ultra-Orthodox such behaviour is not normative, the majority would not go into a church and smash a statue of Jesus."

"And the 'squeeze' pushes members of the community away, it is incidents like priests being spat at or a nun being told to take off her cross when she goes to the hospital.

Figured I'd provide a counterweight to @911roofer. :marseyembrace: I support neither side. :marseycenter:

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Vocations within Orthodoxy and Protestantism have fallen off a cliff as well, so it wouldn't fix the problem by itself. You can look at the stats within Protestant congregations like the Southern Baptists and what you find is :marseywoodchipper2: at roughly equal rates but with more girls targeted rather than teenage boys. The issue has gotten drastically less severe in the last few decades, in any case.

Clerical celibacy was first championed by St. Jerome and to a lesser extent St. Augustine who have been massively influential in the Western Tradition and became fully enforced later on to try to prevent the Church becoming a hereditary fiefdom and enabling the property to pass down within the Church (mixed success as the Borgias etc show). It also helps to show that we're not simply homophobic to have a consistent set of sexual ethics, and I think part of the reason Catholics get attacked so much more than Evangelicals/Orthodox/woke Prots is that we try to prove it's possible to live that out.

I think the largest barriers at present, coming from someone fairly neutral on the matter, are that A) it wouldn't fix the problem as I said even if it would help a bit and B) getting a bunch of Cardinals and Bishops who sacrificed the opportunity to have a family and s*x to follow the example of Jesus are probably not gonna vote to change it :marseyshrug:

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I know why they did it, and it made a lot more sense in the past, but imo it's time to move on. No one is going :marseysalmaid: to be making hereditary fiefdoms nowadays and if there's still some remote :marseymotionplus: possibility just require that the churches are actually :marseyakshually: owned :marseycheckmate: by the Vatican or something.

It also helps to show that we're not simply homophobic :marseyhatecrime: to have a consistent set of sexual :marseyhornybonk: ethics, and I think :marseyphilosoraptor: part of the reason Catholics get attacked so much more than Evangelicals/Orthodox/woke Prots is that we try to prove it's possible to live that out.

at least when it comes to the orthodox, I think :marseygigathonk: this is just more of a fargroup thing than an actual difference :marseypamsame: in attitude. Most people have barely even heard :marseyjacksparrow: of the orthodox, so gay rights :marseysheercliff: activists aren't going :marseysal3: to be freaking out about them. I'm sure the story :marseyslime: is different :marseyvenn3: in Greece/Serbia/etc. Woke prot churches are flying :marseybird: rainbow :marseydream: flags :marseymacacosalute: so there's no reason to oppose :marseydisagreewarpspeed: them, and the ones that do stick :marseycheeky: to their guns get shit on all the time, like the LCMS

IIRC the orthodox :marseybegoneprot: do require celibacy if you want to be anything :marseycoleporter: above a priest, so if the catholics went that route I don't see the cardinals and bishops being too salty about it.

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far group thing

Actually yeah you're right, Catholics take the brunt because it's a historically Protestant country so everyone's parents hated Catholics already before gay rights was a thing and it just passed down. Probably also because the Orthodox lack a cohesive hierarchy to present a political threat while the USCCB openly advocates for people to vote in defense of marriage etc.

IIRC the orthodox :marseybegoneprot: do require celibacy if you want to be anything :marseycoleporter: above a priest, so if the catholics went that route I don't see the cardinals and bishops being too salty about it.

I think picking monks to be bishops is a small t-tradition rather than a matter of ecclesiastical law but I'm not curious enough to double check, another good point on your part regardless. :marseyembrace:

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I don't care, sorry boo

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