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Daily Bard Digest 2024-09-30

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Here's todays official post from the BARDCHIVE:

08/20/20 16:41:07 with a score of -2: https://old.reddit.com/r/redditsecurity/comments/idclo1/understanding_hate_on_reddit_and_the_impact_of/g29e1qd/?context=8

(Apparently mandatory disclaimer: I'm not an admin)

As a for-instance -- the model I use in conjunction with my work on /r/AgainstHateSubreddits breaks down types of hatred and harassment roughly equivalent to the ontology Reddit is using - but also, with respect to (for example) White Supremacist Extremism (an internal category I track), that has expressions in every other category - hatred based on religion, political compartment, gender, sexuality, ability, and with violent tendencies. They also specifically and pointedly instruct their adherents to hide the fact that they're White Supremacists - they tell them to "hide their power levels" and eschew specific distinctive signals that separate their efforts from the efforts of any other more-specifically-focused / "legitimate" political / social / cultural movements.

They know that people will reject them if they're openly identified as the KKK / neoNazis / violent white supremacists - so they do things that obscure that connection. And, sometimes, they do things that seem bizarre but are identifiably related to hatred, because they think it will "red-pill" recruits.

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At 09/30/24 13:11:21 in modnews with a score of 2 points:

Reddit employees have always been able to see everything in private subreddits

Prior to the Spez editing incident, that was the case. In the wake of the Spez editing incident, they hired a real CIO and now I have every reason to believe that they provision access permissions to employees on a Least Necessary Privilege basis, wherein only a subset of employees have access to private subreddits, and I have reason to believe that such access is logged and audited.

Reddit is explicitly ok with every single action that has occurred on private subreddits.

That's directly opposite of what they write in the User Agreement, and what they argue in legal filings, and what they argue in Amicus Curae before the Supreme Court of the United States.

They have — expressly and functionally — no ability nor opportunity to supervise with agency all the content that users upload to the platform.

They do not manage communities. Communities manage communities. They provide infrastructure.

The "cowtools" to "deal with this" is the Moderator Code of Conduct, which has been in its current substantive form for 3 months, and the applicable clauses here have been in place for ~1 year.

There's plenty of reason to fault Reddit Inc. for allowing a plague of extremists and trolls to operate subreddits for a decade+. Try those. Don't try me.

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