YourMommom/mama 1yr ago#2265100
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Is this surprising? The proportion of men with/without dark triad traits reflects human (female's) sexual selection. There are a minority of Dark Triad men and a minority of perfectly sweet men.
There are also short term and long term mating strategies. Women's evolved tastes for long term mates =/= measures of attractiveness, at least not exclusively.
If you want to get laid being a hot bad boy doesn't hurt, but that doesn't mean that's the ideal mate, historically or now.
That's mostly been my experience too. If I look at the partners of all the women I know, casual partners or not, none of them are really particularly psychopathic badboys.
>There are also short term and long term mating strategies. Women's evolved tastes for long term mates =/= measures of attractiveness, at least not exclusively.
>If you want to get laid being a hot bad boy doesn't hurt, but that doesn't mean that's the ideal mate, historically or now.
Absolutely BRUTAL af/bb pill. Never even began for nicecels
Despite Tinder, we live in a pretty strong "long term mating" strategy geared environment. Very stable vs. evolutionary history.
Short term mating strats are mostly for lawless environments where women have little chance of having a long term mate and children with dark triad traits (like their father) are more likely to live. Since we don't live in such an environment, it's a good time for nicecels. Given our law systems now, it is one of the worst time for Dark Triad personalities.
Regardless, my point is that both dangerous and harmless men are niche populations. Having both aspects to your personality as a man (e.g., being able to get ahead in your career by being pushy, being able to fight off a violent attacker, but being kind and loving to your partner) is women's preferred option. This is evidenced by most men having elements of both, as this was selected for by women.
Sapolsky has more to say on how humans are a unique mixture of tournament and pair-bonded species. This idea is supported by how humans have some notable sexual dimorphism, but not as much as true tournament species who do not mate long term. We have a lot of similarities to species who mate for life too.
This also supports the idea that women value both aspects of a man.
Regardless, my point is that both dangerous and harmless men are niche populations. Having both aspects to your personality as a man (e.g., being able to get ahead in your career by being pushy, being able to fight off a violent attacker, but being kind and loving to your partner) is women's preferred option. This is evidenced by most men having elements of both, as this was selected for by women.
I doubt women have any understanding who they are selecting judging by double digit body counts and all the whine about "all men are trash". It's just random shit going on with hella random factors involved. Same goes for men FWIW, The whole "dual mating strategy" and AF/BB shit is just bitter annoyance from nicecels that they are never the first choice and are just presented with "take it or leave it" situation.
Yeah sexual attraction is subconscious for everyone.
Idk I just want people to face the facts of the matter. Stop coping just cause we're gross little monkeys.
"Nicecels" need to play their hand better, it's a good time to be nice. There's more to female attraction than sexual attraction. Don't try for thotties. And foids equally need to stop saying that they hate toxic masculity while in the same breath bragging about their new tall bf lmao
Sexual attraction opens the door to other forms of attraction, it's kinda like the first piece of the puzzle. Nicecels can't play their hand better, they become eligible players when the game is almost over, i.e. when importance of sexual subconscious attraction is replaced by calculated choice based on everything else (money, career, etc.) This breeds resentment because both parties kinda realize this predicament.
I am a woman, and these aren't my original ideas, they're theories feom the field you're citing this paper from.
Drawing conclusions from a paper like this when you don't know the basics of human short term vs. long term mating strategies is really r-slurred lol
Speaking personally, I do think you are, to a degree, right. Men who have some capacity for violence or manipulation in required situations are more attractive to most women than men who are not. But go too far, or show yourself to not be able to control that enough to be a good mate, and it's a huge turn off for any functional woman.
Of course, but I wouldn't worry about that right now. You seem very focused on self improvement. I think once you get to a place where that pays off and things fall into place naturally you will meet someone nice bby
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Mom I have a question? If I sacrifice everything in my life including fun, friends, and family just to make sure I live the best version of me I can get; why would I be going after a nice girl after that instead of a girl that satisfies my needs? I mean I am honestly confused by this, I do believe the best version of me I am describing would be desired by women, but then why would anyone who goes through such a process have any shred of a soul left enough to actually want to fall in love instead of just treating women as meat popsicles?
By "fall into place" I meant get a bit older and not be so worried about self improvement. I think it would be good for you to focus on stuff like building a career, but more on family and friends and fun from the sounds of it. Caring for family and friends can help build you up too, you shouldn't be grinding all the time. I think your problem is perfectionism bby :(
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I know. I feel no connection to the world around me. Everybody talks the talk which they will never walk and it has left me too disgusted to want to be around anymore. Camus keeps me alive.
Just take your time and try to connect more with those around you. Sometimes in life, after pushing for change for a while, you just have to let go for a while and let things fall into place. That was the most helpful advice I've ever gotten, at least. If you have any good family or friends maybe put your energy towards them for a while instead. Hard to give good advice over rdrama lmao but I hope that's at least mildly helpful.
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Is this surprising? The proportion of men with/without dark triad traits reflects human (female's) sexual selection. There are a minority of Dark Triad men and a minority of perfectly sweet men.
There are also short term and long term mating strategies. Women's evolved tastes for long term mates =/= measures of attractiveness, at least not exclusively.
If you want to get laid being a hot bad boy doesn't hurt, but that doesn't mean that's the ideal mate, historically or now.
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That's mostly been my experience too. If I look at the partners of all the women I know, casual partners or not, none of them are really particularly psychopathic badboys.
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Most bad boys are posers, but women like a good poser. If you have the right aesthetic you can let imagination do the heavy lifting.
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Absolutely BRUTAL af/bb pill. Never even began for nicecels
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Despite Tinder, we live in a pretty strong "long term mating" strategy geared environment. Very stable vs. evolutionary history.
Short term mating strats are mostly for lawless environments where women have little chance of having a long term mate and children with dark triad traits (like their father) are more likely to live. Since we don't live in such an environment, it's a good time for nicecels. Given our law systems now, it is one of the worst time for Dark Triad personalities.
Regardless, my point is that both dangerous and harmless men are niche populations. Having both aspects to your personality as a man (e.g., being able to get ahead in your career by being pushy, being able to fight off a violent attacker, but being kind and loving to your partner) is women's preferred option. This is evidenced by most men having elements of both, as this was selected for by women.
Sapolsky has more to say on how humans are a unique mixture of tournament and pair-bonded species. This idea is supported by how humans have some notable sexual dimorphism, but not as much as true tournament species who do not mate long term. We have a lot of similarities to species who mate for life too.
This also supports the idea that women value both aspects of a man.
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Good job bobby, here's a star
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I doubt women have any understanding who they are selecting judging by double digit body counts and all the whine about "all men are trash". It's just random shit going on with hella random factors involved. Same goes for men FWIW, The whole "dual mating strategy" and AF/BB shit is just bitter annoyance from nicecels that they are never the first choice and are just presented with "take it or leave it" situation.
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Yeah sexual attraction is subconscious for everyone.
Idk I just want people to face the facts of the matter. Stop coping just cause we're gross little monkeys.
"Nicecels" need to play their hand better, it's a good time to be nice. There's more to female attraction than sexual attraction. Don't try for thotties. And foids equally need to stop saying that they hate toxic masculity while in the same breath bragging about their new tall bf lmao
Literal shit
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Sexual attraction opens the door to other forms of attraction, it's kinda like the first piece of the puzzle. Nicecels can't play their hand better, they become eligible players when the game is almost over, i.e. when importance of sexual subconscious attraction is replaced by calculated choice based on everything else (money, career, etc.) This breeds resentment because both parties kinda realize this predicament.
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They don't even realise they are doing it
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That's an understatement.
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w*men lie about it all the time. Watch what they do, dont listen to what they say.
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I am a woman, and these aren't my original ideas, they're theories feom the field you're citing this paper from.
Drawing conclusions from a paper like this when you don't know the basics of human short term vs. long term mating strategies is really r-slurred lol
Speaking personally, I do think you are, to a degree, right. Men who have some capacity for violence or manipulation in required situations are more attractive to most women than men who are not. But go too far, or show yourself to not be able to control that enough to be a good mate, and it's a huge turn off for any functional woman.
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Stopped reading. Not interested.
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You'll get laid someday, champ
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Well you certainly stick to your principles.
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hey mom, do I have a chance of getting laid?
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Of course, but I wouldn't worry about that right now. You seem very focused on self improvement. I think once you get to a place where that pays off and things fall into place naturally you will meet someone nice bby
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Mom I have a question? If I sacrifice everything in my life including fun, friends, and family just to make sure I live the best version of me I can get; why would I be going after a nice girl after that instead of a girl that satisfies my needs? I mean I am honestly confused by this, I do believe the best version of me I am describing would be desired by women, but then why would anyone who goes through such a process have any shred of a soul left enough to actually want to fall in love instead of just treating women as meat popsicles?
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By "fall into place" I meant get a bit older and not be so worried about self improvement. I think it would be good for you to focus on stuff like building a career, but more on family and friends and fun from the sounds of it. Caring for family and friends can help build you up too, you shouldn't be grinding all the time. I think your problem is perfectionism bby :(
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I know. I feel no connection to the world around me. Everybody talks the talk which they will never walk and it has left me too disgusted to want to be around anymore. Camus keeps me alive.
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Just take your time and try to connect more with those around you. Sometimes in life, after pushing for change for a while, you just have to let go for a while and let things fall into place. That was the most helpful advice I've ever gotten, at least. If you have any good family or friends maybe put your energy towards them for a while instead. Hard to give good advice over rdrama lmao but I hope that's at least mildly helpful.
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sediment
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Letting women select mates leads to a psychopathic society. Women literally destroying society when given the chance to select mates. lol. lmao.
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Women find charm charming; incels seethe. More news at 11.
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Let's see them pics
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Where's the reddit sneed?
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