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Weekly Mass Discussion Thread #9

Aw yeah it's that day of the week again !catholics !christians let's rock.

A seminarian spoke at my Mass today. He's an alumn of my school and talked about his long and difficult journey to discerning his vocation. It was a long, sad story.

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First Reading

Thus says the LORD:

"You shall not molest or oppress an alien,

for you were once aliens yourselves in the land of Egypt.

You shall not wrong any widow or orphan.

If ever you wrong them and they cry out to me,

I will surely hear their cry.

My wrath will flare up, and I will kill you with the sword;

then your own wives will be widows, and your children orphans.

"If you lend money to one of your poor neighbors among my people,

you shall not act like an extortioner toward him

by demanding interest from him.

If you take your neighbor's cloak as a pledge,

you shall return it to him before sunset;

for this cloak of his is the only covering he has for his body.

What else has he to sleep in?

If he cries out to me, I will hear him; for I am compassionate."

-Exodus 22:20-26

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Second Reading

Brothers and sisters:

You know what sort of people we were among you for your sake.

And you became imitators of us and of the Lord,

receiving the word in great affliction, with joy from the Holy Spirit,

so that you became a model for all the believers

in Macedonia and in Achaia.

For from you the word of the Lord has sounded forth

not only in Macedonia and in Achaia,

but in every place your faith in God has gone forth,

so that we have no need to say anything.

For they themselves openly declare about us

what sort of reception we had among you,

and how you turned to God from idols

to serve the living and true God

and to await his Son from heaven,

whom he raised from the dead,

Jesus, who delivers us from the coming wrath.

-1 Thessalonians 1:5c-10

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Gospel

When the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees,

they gathered together, and one of them,

a scholar of the law tested him by asking,

"Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?"

He said to him,

"You shall love the Lord, your God,

with all your heart,

with all your soul,

and with all your mind.

This is the greatest and the first commandment.

The second is like it:

You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments."

-Matthew 22:34-40

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Today's readings are about the greatest commandments discussed in the Gospel. The Old Testament shows that this has been established previously: "You shall not molest or oppress an alien, for you were once aliens yourselves in the land of Egypt." It also says not to charge interest on loan, which really makes me nootice. :!marseynoooticer: The epistle demonstrates that by following the two greatest commandments, you will inspires others to do likewise. Now, people will often point towards "you shall love your neighbor as yourself" and use it to justify whatever it is that they do. "Jesus said to love each other so you shouldn't criticize my degenerate lifestyle." I, for one, would hope that if I was making terrible mistakes, and destroying myself, that my peers would guide me back to the correct path. The loving thing to do is not always supportive.

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You shall not wrong :marseyxdoubt: any widow or orphan.

If ever you wrong :marseyobamanope: them and they cry out to me,

I will surely :marseyaware: hear their cry.

My wrath will flare up, and I will kill you with the sword;

then your own wives will be widows, and your children :marseykermit: orphans.

Old Testament god was much sterner.

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I agree with your interpretation. One thing I would like to add is that the second reading actually gives proof it is possible to turn from the idols your worship and your sins that keep you from God as the Thessalonians and, indeed, all of the early church had to turn away from something and did so successfully. Obviously, it can be difficult to turn away from what is comfortable for us, but saying its impossible to do so will only keep us in our sin. At the very least, you should always be trying to reach for God, even if it is difficult. And if you cannot want to turn to God, push yourself to want to want to turn to Him.

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So you're not going to tell us the seminarians long sad story? :marseypopcorntime:

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I was feeling lazy, but basically in his freshman year this girl got him to really strengthen his faith but over time she fell away from the faith and became a party animal then one of their mutual friends lied about him and ruined his reputation and he realized he couldn't fix her

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man & girl go out to drive under moonlight. they stop at on at a side of road. he turn to his girl and say: "baby, i love you very much"

"what is it honey?"

"our car is broken down. i think the engine is broken, ill walk and get some more fuel."

"ok. ill stay here and look after our stereo. there have been news report of steres being stolen."

"good idea. keep the doors locked no matter what. i love you sweaty"

so the guy left to get full for the car. after two hours the girl say "where is my baby, he was supposed to be back by now". then the girl here a scratching sound and a voice say "LET ME IN"

the girl doesn't do it and then after a while she goes to sleep. the next morning she wakes up and finds her boyfriend still not there. she gets out to check and man door hand hook car door.

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