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Fellow !christians - how do you view your use of rDrama?
During a recent sermon my pastor quoted some verses and they seem to directly attack :"grumblerss" and malcontents (dramatards).
Jude 1:16 (ESV)
These are grumblers, malcontents, following their own sinful desires; they are loud-mouthed boasters, showing favoritism to gain advantage
Philippians 4:8 (ESV)
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.
Proverbs 4:23 (ESV)
Keep your heart with all vigilance, for from it flow the springs of life.
This is the most notable verse however:
Titus 3:10-11
As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.
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I think about this a lot and I believe a direct, contextless, literal interpretation is misleading. Gossiping, for example, is explicitly called out. What we do is gossip, but it's not about local townsfolk or anything, it's just shooting the shit about public figures and randos on whom we have no impact whatsoever. It's the same but entirely different. Similarly, while we sow division, it's all done in good fun both locally and abroad. We're not starting wars or breaking families up or anything, we're just using a recreational medium to have fun with others using that recreational medium. It's a lot like bluffing in poker or lying in a murder mystery game not being bearing false witness; it's just part of the consensual sport everyone involved is partaking in.
I am of course susceptible to error and I welcome corrections if they're needed, but I do believe this is the correct take.
edit: a word
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Carp, honest question that has puzzled me for a while and has made me deeply wonder about the new trend of internet weirdos who became Christians after 2018 or so, why are you a Catholic admin of a snuff site where people are brutally killed on camera and the users voyeuristically salivate over it?
"BWC IS A COOMER LOL
", yes, being a Christian struggling with coomer tendencies looks least worse than this, I would feel more comfortable in telling an apologist, pastor, or priest that "yeah I sometimes troll people online with porn stuff", rather than with "I run a website where people are brutally killed and sickos get sexually aroused by it and demand more content" !christians just..... no.
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Why do you fund an ISP that directly allows for countless millions to engage in pornography, child sexual abuse, infidelity, substance abuse, human trafficking, and on and on and on? People misusing a service does not invalidate the service itself. Do you seethe at Smith & Wesson? U-Haul? Knife manufacturers?
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...I fund what?
You specifically admin the WPD domain itself, this is not comparable to using a website like reddit that has religious, porn, and drug sub-forums on the same service, being a janny on /r/Catholicism is not comparable to being a janny on XVideos or LiveLeak.
You participate and administrate the website domain that is dedicated to videos of people being brutally murdered on camera, and is full of mentally unstable users who are aroused by the videos and engage in self-harm for attention.
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WPD is not, in itself, inherently sinful. Horror movies are not inherently sinful. Alcohol is not inherently sinful. The internet is not inherently sinful. S*x, food, and sleep are not inherently sinful. These things can all be—and often are—used sinfully. That does not retroactively make them sinful. As for the examples asked about originally:
Your ISP allows for people to engage in an incomprehensible amount of wicked activity all across the spectrum. Name a sin, it can be done via the internet, and is. You pay money to perpetuate this when the ISP does not do everything it can—or even much of anything, really—to prevent this.
Smith & Wesson makes guns. Guns are frequently used in murders, suicides, r*pes and robberies. Inarguably at a far greater rate than they're used to protect people or hunt.
People use Uhauls in ramming attacks, to transport stolen goods, to traffic humans, and to drive drunk.
Knives are used in all manner of sinful activity as well.
None of these are an issue for you. Why do you take issue with a platform that allows for far fewer sins with far less magnitude with far less real-world impact and no criminality? People finding titillation in the material hosted is not the intent and it's not the only use. Why do you not also take issue with rDrama, which unironically spreads the homosexual agenda?
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Unless if WPD is to rDrama what /r/Catholicism is to /r/GoneWild (two extremely different forums on the same domain), then this is not comparable dude.
I will repeat: WatchPeopleDie is a completely separate website on another completely different domain that is specifically dedicated to, again, people brutally dying and getting executed on camera, and has a community of self-harming mentally unstable psychos who fetishize the videos and beg for more, and you are an administrator of that site who constantly posts on it, how would you explain to a priest that you are the administrator of a website called WatchPeopleDie? the priest would immediately think that you are a psychopath at best, mass shooter in the making at worse, this shit is not even comparable to regular porn sites.
!christians this is why I am perplexed at this, I am not even looking for bullshit janny drama or pick a fight with Carp or whatever, I am just shocked and fascinated at how an individual who is an admin a snuff porn site still calls themselves a pious Catholic, I am not doubting that Carp is, but still, this is fascinating from a psychological, theological, and cultural perspective - the same edgy nihilists of mid-2000s 4chan are now becoming Trad Christians, and trying to harmonize Christian beliefs with their worldview, I really just want to talk about this.
Like the /pol/acks who declare themselves to be Christians who oppose porn, but love to spam gifs of people getting their throats slit, and think that Jesus wants them to nuke the Middle East, torture and decapitate black people, and start a new civil war or something.
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rDrama's usage is implicitly sinful, if you're going to insist on a scenario in which there is no nuance. It exists to sow division, to gossip, to malign and to abuse, all while explicitly promoting a homosexual lifestyle and encouraging the creation and distribution of pornographic material. It even rewards users for creating their own. One time we even required a user to do so in order to post.
1. You are absurdly conflating all deaths with executions.
2. You are strongly implying, while doing your level best to try not to appear to be doing so, that WPD causes these deaths, rather than catalogs them.
WPD has an explicit ban on romanticizing, encouraging, or advising with self-harm, and routinely bans those who do so.
Intentionally deceitful again lol, I neither post regularly nor subject matter. I post administratively.
Speak with a priest about this as I have, since you do seem to be a Protestant and incapable of actually thinking anything through beyond vague misinterpretations of Scripture that you willfully misapply to suit your own ends. War journ*lism is not sinful. Those who record it are not sinful either. Recording a mass shooting is not sinful. Recording an autopsy is not sinful. Viewing these things is not sinful. If you're viewing them for titillation it is, the same as sculpting the Venus de Milo is not sinful and admiring the Venus de Milo is not sinful, but viewing it for the purpose of titillation, or masturbating to it are.
Surely the validation from the upmarseys of the ping group will help with the cognitive dissonance. An excellent move.
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Talk about cognitive dissonance when you have zero understanding of Christian or catholic history
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Absolutely baffling that he doesn't think running WPD would run afoul of Catholic doctrine. CCC 2523 implies that merely dwelling on sexually suggestive advertising is a sinful matter.
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I asked this cause I once saw multiple people with "WPD" carved on their skin on the site header.
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If people are going to do it, we'll add it. And the userbase has a tendency to ridicule them for it.
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(he does)
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Also btw what denomination are you?
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They aren't and this point is annoying and r-slurred. The vast majority of those types continued what they've been doing since the 80s, complete political disconnect. A similar point often made is that the Atheist+ types from the mid-00s are now the trad Christians but the vast majority of those types just ended up melting away from the "activism" surrounding the "movement" ala
@HeyvestMoon types (I know he was an Christian too) or threw themselves into the upcoming new culture war activism that dominates this recent period. If there is a demographic that I think shares strong ties to modern trad Christians it'd unironically be the scene-type kids they want to be different, they want to be loud and they want to be noticed not for their loudness but for their difference which they hope shines through with acts of rebellion that are meant to outstrip other generally "rebellious" trends.
No offence but you've noticed a very select group
And made that into the entirety of the trad "movement" which even with the comparison above I'd even go as far as to say it's a "new" thing in and off itself my personal views notwithstanding. And even those /pol/ types often don't fit into that mould as seen with the constant purity spirals by LARPagan types that the Christcucks aren't doing enough or are subverted by the Jews to /pol/'s eternal love for based black men that interfaces with the very early Abraham Lincoln view of "put them over there". Despite the Jews being enemy numero uno the board struggles to agree that a Holocaust 2.0 (1.0 I guess) is any kind of solution across threads that broach the question talk more about other groups.
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You could have done crack instead of this shit
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I am doing both simultaneously.
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Jesus loves and forgives you
But instead of watchpeopledie, why not change it to watchpeopledieoflaughter or watchpeopledieofkindness?
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this is the endgame
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Wrong
Wrong
Wrong
Wrong
S*x, food, and sleep
are not inherently sinful.
Wrong wrong
and wrong
Return to Luther
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I'm sorry box but you have to go.
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Not one single person is gonna read all that
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THE INTERNET IS THE DEVILS PLAYTHING
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Oh, come on, man. In what world is footage of real world violence equivalent to movies?
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DAE porn fine but extramarital s*x bad??
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Porn is not fine in Catholic doctrine. Furthermore, porn is footage of real s*x acts. Horror movies aren't footage of real violence.
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DAE
pornhentai fine but extramarital s*x bad??Jump in the discussion.
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Yeah lmao. I said the exact same thing.
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You literally can't make an argument against CP (including loli and drawn shit) you can't also make for WPD, and vice versa
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You can't actually be serious with this r-slurred highschool tier take. WPD is a bunch of actual sick fricks you monkey.
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https://billmuehlenberg.com/2020/02/15/6-signs-that-you-might-be-a-pharisee
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Even Pharasaic Catholics would consider this immoral.
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What kind of a shitty cope is this? My ISP doesn't exist explicitly to deliver porn or CSA.
WPD exists explicitly to host videos of people getting fricking killed on camera for others to watch.
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Least strawman Carpgument.
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This is bordering on consequentialism, which is not really in line with Catholic teaching. Internal sin is also a concept in Catholicism to keep in mind. Jesus condemned revilers in the same breath that he condemned sexual immorality, so going after degenerates while ignoring one's own vitriol is most certainly a log-eye situation.
Personally, I wouldn't really hold it against someone unless they were excessive. I think /r/Catholicism style manualism is terrible for both the spirit and one's mental health in general. The excessive casuistry and legislation of morality that pervaded the 19th century and early 20th century Church has done the faith a major disservice, IMO. Looking into tradcath legalistic insanity, integralism, massa darnata, and El Liberalismo Es Pecado have left a very bad taste in my mouth, to say the least.
That being said, raging at dumb crap in the world is probably not in line with Catholic spirituality and I don't think it should be dismissed out of hand. If you're gonna be a doctrinaire Catholic then you have to apply the doctrine to all aspects of behavior, not just the behavior that you already dislike in the world.
Edit: If you want an example of the kind of boneheaded thinking that really annoys me in Catholic apologia, look at this article:
What if they ask you if you're hiding the person? Silence or an evasive answer is effectively just an admission of guilt. The idea that God would consider it a sin to lie to save a life in a very obvious situation like this is completely asinine. Online Catholic apologia is filled with rigid, dumb takes like this. So much sophomoric reasoning, sophistry, and straw manning.
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Axawoddle?
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Why
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Because I thought you would like the post
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