The whole thing was a punishment for Apple for dodging their heavy taxes and for Ireland for letting Apple do it. Amerimutts thought it was some kind of big win for Ireland but the Micks know where their money and jobs come from.
The Fenian Brotherhood were pillaging the Canadian countryside to draw Imperial British troops away from Europe to put them down, creating a lull to forment the Young Ireland revolt. It failed but the raiding campaign and poor British troop performance forced the Canadians to form citizen militias to finally route the Irish Fenians after news of the failed revolt in Ireland forced to withdraw back to America.
I miss when Irish republican orgs stirred shit and made global drama for the brits instead of accidentally killing well-liked journ*lists during 1970s live-action roleplay hour and like, putting stickers on lamposts or whatever else Saoradh do now
That time during the British wars against the Boer Republics, Irish gigachuds flocked to form Irish Volunteer brigades to fight the British since the South African Boers promised their gold and support for a new war of independence in Ireland
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They were instrumental in spreading various forms of Christian philosophy and preserving manuscripts during the dark ages. Since then their main claim to fame has been changing the trajectory of nations through the sheer number of people they exported. That and Guiness.
*And in fairness, Northern Ireland isn't really about religion. It's an ethnic conflict that just happens to divide by religious lines.
*And in fairness, Northern Ireland isn't really about religion. It's an ethnic conflict that just happens to divide by religious lines.
Yeah lots of people (even in Ireland) miss this. Prods and Taigs fought hand in hand on a number of occasions like the 1798 rebellion. A lot of the figures who are lauded in Irish republicanism like Wolfe Tone and Sam Maguire were prods.
Sure but that's the origin of the modern conflict, just like how Kurds used to be massive Turk peepee riders under the Ottomans to the point of being a major part of the Armenian Genocide
Ronnie Bunting was a founder of the INLA in the 1970s and he had about as prod a background as you can get lmao. The Troubles was always along ethnonationalist rather than religious lines.
Neighbor if it was a religious conflict why would Catholics found a paramilitary with a Prod?
Religion was a shorthand but not the be-all-end-all of who was on what side. Sometimes the Catholicussy was too good and Prods would end up fighting for Irish nationalism, like that one UVF commander's son did. RUC + British Army had Catholics too.
Then how was it an ethnic conflict if there was a Catholic paramilitary founded by a Prod?
The "ethnic" lines were inherently sectarian in nature irregardless of religiosity so I don't understand what you mean by how there being a Prod founder among one of the biggest Catholic paramilitaries disproves it being not only religious but also ethnonationalist since said paramilitary would be "compromised" on both accounts not just religious.
No. The Protestants were imported from Scotland by the English to push out the native Irish and take over their lands as new citizens loyal to the crown. That's the root of the conflict in its simplest form. Look up Ulster Plantation
I promise you nobody in Ireland has ever bombed anyone over transubstantiation.
No. They both speak forms of Gaelic and were part of the Celtic fringe but were fundamentally different tribal groups and peoples since always. The material point is that the Scots were outsiders offered the land of the native populace and placed above them, breeding resentment and anger we deal with up to today.
I dont know about literally every place, they took over a lot. But all the ones I do know about that happened to. They'd take over an area, make the people submit to them, then grab a minority group that was extremely similar to the original group and install them as colonial govt as a way of showing "cooperation" with the locals. In turn, the local majority population would grow to resent the minority ruling population instead of yhe british, because the minorities would suddenly have power in a way they never had before and they'll start taking revenge for all the things the majority had done to them.
Ireland itself wasnt ever truly unified during the Ancient or Middle Ages, let alone unified with Scotland. Tribes and petty kings or chieftains may have formed alliances with Celtic cousins to bust some Roman skulls, but that's not the same as being one people.
They were still all being seen by themselves as Irish and Gaels, just like how the English existed before England was unified as was Italy and Germany.
What are the ethnic lines? Because a lot of IrishNats like to claim that Prots are all descendants of British (ie Scottish) plantations in Ireland but not all Unionists see themselves that way
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Ireland is hardly the BVI but we opposed the ruling that made Apple pay us billions in tax, come on.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0907/814744-apple/
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The whole thing was a punishment for Apple for dodging their heavy taxes and for Ireland for letting Apple do it. Amerimutts thought it was some kind of big win for Ireland but the Micks know where their money and jobs come from.
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I dont know Irish history. Has Ireland ever done anything of note beyond starving and killing each other over religion?
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Breeding most of the US during the famine
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not all of those burgers are potatoBIPOCs, some are Scot or just normal Angloids whose English ancestors lived along the borders
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Many of them are G*rmans who Anglicized their names to hide from deserved prejudice.
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The hibernian menace is really underrated
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They're the reason Canada become a nation lmao 🤣
The Fenian Brotherhood were pillaging the Canadian countryside to draw Imperial British troops away from Europe to put them down, creating a lull to forment the Young Ireland revolt. It failed but the raiding campaign and poor British troop performance forced the Canadians to form citizen militias to finally route the Irish Fenians after news of the failed revolt in Ireland forced to withdraw back to America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenian_raids
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So Ireland's greatest contribution to history is creating the only country worse than Ireland? That's something right there
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I miss when Irish republican orgs stirred shit and made global drama for the brits instead of accidentally killing well-liked journ*lists during 1970s live-action roleplay hour and like, putting stickers on lamposts or whatever else Saoradh do now
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< British reaction to seeing random Irish appear in the South African jungles
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Brits out Ngubus in
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Well they gave us the Dropkick Murphys and the Shamrock Shake
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They killed all their snakes or something.
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They were instrumental in spreading various forms of Christian philosophy and preserving manuscripts during the dark ages. Since then their main claim to fame has been changing the trajectory of nations through the sheer number of people they exported. That and Guiness.
*And in fairness, Northern Ireland isn't really about religion. It's an ethnic conflict that just happens to divide by religious lines.
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Yeah lots of people (even in Ireland) miss this. Prods and Taigs fought hand in hand on a number of occasions like the 1798 rebellion. A lot of the figures who are lauded in Irish republicanism like Wolfe Tone and Sam Maguire were prods.
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Sure but that's the origin of the modern conflict, just like how Kurds used to be massive Turk peepee riders under the Ottomans to the point of being a major part of the Armenian Genocide
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Ronnie Bunting was a founder of the INLA in the 1970s and he had about as prod a background as you can get lmao. The Troubles was always along ethnonationalist rather than religious lines.
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So how does there being a Prod Nat make it not a religious conflict but still an ethnonationalist one?
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Neighbor if it was a religious conflict why would Catholics found a paramilitary with a Prod?
Religion was a shorthand but not the be-all-end-all of who was on what side. Sometimes the Catholicussy was too good and Prods would end up fighting for Irish nationalism, like that one UVF commander's son did. RUC + British Army had Catholics too.
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Then how was it an ethnic conflict if there was a Catholic paramilitary founded by a Prod?
The "ethnic" lines were inherently sectarian in nature irregardless of religiosity so I don't understand what you mean by how there being a Prod founder among one of the biggest Catholic paramilitaries disproves it being not only religious but also ethnonationalist since said paramilitary would be "compromised" on both accounts not just religious.
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Ethnic? Arent they all Irish? Are you being for real?
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No. The Protestants were imported from Scotland by the English to push out the native Irish and take over their lands as new citizens loyal to the crown. That's the root of the conflict in its simplest form. Look up Ulster Plantation
I promise you nobody in Ireland has ever bombed anyone over transubstantiation.
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They unironically probably have
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That's MickNat cope that a large number of their ancestral brethren were actual converts
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I thought the scots and irish were the same people, gaylick and druids.
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No. They both speak forms of Gaelic and were part of the Celtic fringe but were fundamentally different tribal groups and peoples since always. The material point is that the Scots were outsiders offered the land of the native populace and placed above them, breeding resentment and anger we deal with up to today.
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Oh, the same shit the bongs did to every place they occupied? I get why the Irish hate them now. For some reason it never clicked.
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Perfidious Albion strikes again
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Every place?
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I dont know about literally every place, they took over a lot. But all the ones I do know about that happened to. They'd take over an area, make the people submit to them, then grab a minority group that was extremely similar to the original group and install them as colonial govt as a way of showing "cooperation" with the locals. In turn, the local majority population would grow to resent the minority ruling population instead of yhe british, because the minorities would suddenly have power in a way they never had before and they'll start taking revenge for all the things the majority had done to them.
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Celtic Fringe?
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The periphery of the Celtic world that used to encompass lots of Europe. Scotland, Cornwall, Ireland, Isle of Man, Galicia (arguably) etc.
Literally the fringes of former Celtic territory that's now the only place you'll find remnants of the language etc
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Does the term have any revanchist undertones?
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What about Brittany?
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The word Scottish literally used to mean Irish though? They were clearly one group at one point when they invaded northern Britain
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Ireland itself wasnt ever truly unified during the Ancient or Middle Ages, let alone unified with Scotland. Tribes and petty kings or chieftains may have formed alliances with Celtic cousins to bust some Roman skulls, but that's not the same as being one people.
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They were still all being seen by themselves as Irish and Gaels, just like how the English existed before England was unified as was Italy and Germany.
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What are the ethnic lines? Because a lot of IrishNats like to claim that Prots are all descendants of British (ie Scottish) plantations in Ireland but not all Unionists see themselves that way
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Good music and nice whiskey
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I'm going to Fear a bháta your butthole.
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No you won't
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Fought off those africans from Rome, and are the true successors of Ancient Egypt.
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Dramatards join !deathtomicks
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