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[NYT] The Supreme Court Just Erased Part of the Constitution

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As of Monday, March 4, 2024, Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution is essentially a dead letter, at least as it applies to candidates for federal office. Under the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling that reversed the Colorado Supreme Court's decision striking Donald Trump from the state's primary ballot, even insurrectionists who've violated their previous oath of office can hold federal office, unless and until Congress passes specific legislation to enforce Section 3.

In the aftermath of the oral argument last month, legal observers knew with near-certainty that the Supreme Court was unlikely to apply Section 3 to Trump. None of the justices seemed willing to uphold the Colorado court's ruling, and only Justice Sonia Sotomayor gave any meaningful indication that she might dissent. The only real question remaining was the reasoning for the court's decision. Would the ruling be broad or narrow?

A narrow ruling for Trump might have held, for example, that Colorado didn't provide him with enough due process when it determined that Section 3 applied. Or the court could have held that Trump, as president, was not an "officer of the United States" within the meaning of the section. Such a ruling would have kept Trump on the ballot, but it would also have kept Section 3 viable to block insurrectionists from the House or Senate and from all other federal offices.

A somewhat broader ruling might have held that Trump did not engage in insurrection or rebellion or provide aid and comfort to the enemies of the Constitution. Such a ruling would have sharply limited Section 3 to apply almost exclusively to Civil War-style conflicts, an outcome at odds with the text and original public meaning of the section. It's worth noting that, by not taking this path, the court did not exonerate Trump from participating in an insurrection.

But instead of any of these options, the court went with arguably the broadest reasoning available: that Section 3 isn't self-executing, and thus has no force or effect in the absence of congressional action. This argument is rooted in Section 5 of the amendment, which states that "Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article."

But Section 5, on its face, does not give Congress exclusive power to enforce the amendment. As Justices Elena Kagan, Sotomayor and Ketanji Brown Jackson pointed out in their own separate concurring opinion, "All the Reconstruction amendments (including the due process and equal protection guarantees and prohibition of slavery) 'are self-executing,' meaning that they do not depend on legislation." While Congress may pass legislation to help enforce the 14th Amendment, it is not required to do so, and the 14th Amendment still binds federal, state and local governments even if Congress refuses to act.

But now Section 3 is different from other sections of the amendment. It requires federal legislation to enforce its terms, at least as applied to candidates for federal office. Through inaction alone, Congress can effectively erase part of the 14th Amendment.

It's extremely difficult to square this ruling with the text of Section 3. The language is clearly mandatory. The first words are "No person shall be" a member of Congress or a state or federal officer if that person has engaged in insurrection or rebellion or provided aid or comfort to the enemies of the Constitution. The Section then says, "But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each house, remove such disability."

In other words, the Constitution imposes the disability, and only a supermajority of Congress can remove it. But under the Supreme Court's reasoning, the meaning is inverted: The Constitution merely *allows *Congress to impose the disability, and if Congress chooses not to enact legislation enforcing the section, then the disability does not exist. The Supreme Court has effectively replaced a very high bar for allowing insurrectionists into federal office --- a supermajority vote by Congress --- with the lowest bar imaginable: congressional inaction.

As Kagan, Sotomayor and Jackson point out, this approach is also inconsistent with the constitutional approach to other qualifications for the presidency. We can bar individuals from holding office who are under the age limit or who don't meet the relevant citizenship requirement without congressional enforcement legislation. We can enforce the two-term presidential term limit without congressional enforcement legislation. Section 3 now stands apart not only from the rest of the 14th Amendment, but also from the other constitutional requirements for the presidency.

In one important respect, the court's ruling on Monday is worse and more consequential than the Senate's decision to acquit Trump after his Jan. 6 impeachment trial in 2021. Impeachment is entirely a political process, and the actions of one Senate have no bearing on the actions of future Senates. But a Supreme Court ruling has immense precedential power. The court's decision is now the law.

It would be clearly preferable if Congress were to pass enforcement legislation that established explicit procedures for resolving disputes under Section 3, including setting the burden of proof and creating timetables and deadlines for filing challenges and hearing appeals. Establishing a uniform process is better than living with a patchwork of state proceedings. But the fact that Congress has not acted should not effectively erase the words from the constitutional page. Chaotic enforcement of the Constitution may be suboptimal. But it's far better than not enforcing the Constitution at all.

!chuds

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an outcome at odds with the text and original public meaning of the section.

Oh, now we're textualists. :marseyeyeroll:

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Reminder both textualist and originalist Supreme Court judges chose to overturn this...

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Now do 2nd amendment you journostrags

I can't believe people take the NYT seriously.

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>He may be an insurrectionist that becomes president. Because the people who could stop this won't.

:#marseysickos2:

How much longer until we start seeing bold-faced calls to assassinate Trump on the front page of /r/pol?

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The New York times continues its slide into irrelevancy.

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:#chudturbospergout2: but its whatever

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I :marseyheart: kween award

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:marseyxd: it's fantastic

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>Chaotic enforcement of the Constitution may be suboptimal. But it's far better than not enforcing the Constitution at all.

What a BIPOC lmao. Apply this to police shootings then too. Chaotic shootings may be suboptimal but it's far better than not shooting at all

!nonchuds !chuds where do you stand on this

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Resisting arrest proves someone is a menace to society and should be put down for the greater good.

:marseyindignant:

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"self-executing"

A piece of paper isn't going to execute anything, somebody has to decide whether or not the law applies.

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the constitution is trans?

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I feel like it's telling that they never actually quote the text in full. There's basically no way to read that and think it's a decision a state can make.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

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AMURICA has fallen (again) two more weeks til civil war. :#gigachadglow:

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I hope they delay it another week, then. End of Eva is in the theater that week.

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Cool, can we do 13th and 19th next?

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16th pls

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:#marseyeyeroll:

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Ngl it does seem like a strange interpretation.

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It depends somewhat on context. The 14th amendment was designed to weaken states' rights. And related constitutional amendments end with "Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation." It was assumed that Congress would set the rules based on the amendment's guideline, not random state officials.

Because the language also says that "giving aid and comfort to enemies of the United States" is disqualifying, it would also be really easy for random states to dq anyone over foreign policy disagreements if this were permitted.

The only reason this is an issue is that modern Congress doesn't do anything so everyone tries to go around them.

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The only reason this is an issue is that modern Congress doesn't do anything so everyone tries to go around them.

Virtually all ills that plague our federal government come down to Congressmen not doing their god darned jobs.

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What's strange about "someone who was never charged with a crime can't be punished?"

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That's not what they said?

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>fails to respond to my question

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i did respond to your question

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I asked what was strange. You said that's not what they said. That's not a response, it's a DODGE.

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:#sneedbuddy:

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But it is the case

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Repeal the 22nd amendment and create a new amendment giving the President and Vice President very broad taxation, legislative, budget, deportation, energy infrastructure, telecommunications, infrastructure, etc, powers, and that Congress and the courts can't stop them.

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18USC § 2383

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection...shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Simple as. These people are so melodramatic.

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god dam crashes, the website is slow, the crashes are appearing more frequently, the amount of problems is increasing... we need an app.. even if it has problems I don't care the website is super slow and I can barely stand waiting...

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