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Rdrama Bookclub Thread #5 :marseyreading: The Master and Margarita (Chap 25-Epilogue) Part II

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This this is the final discussion thread of Master and Margarita.

The next bookclub choice is Faust Part I by Goethe, the first discussion thread will be held on Sunday, August 12th. I'll make a thread tomorrow to decide the number of pages.

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!bookworms

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Thanks for running drama's first successful bookclub @neoconshill :#marseyparty::#marcake:

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:#marseyshy3::#marseylove:

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@Losercel

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>be the Devil

>show up in Soviet Russia along with your demon servants

>wreck havoc across Moscow, put dozens of commie apparatchiks in a mad house.

>make a presentation, behead annoying commie and give fake money to poors

>held satanic ball and turn some lady into a witch

>reunite the witch with the love of her life

>they drink poison and get sent to limbo

>refuse to elaborate

>leave

:#marseygigachad:

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Total Massolit Death

Good book :marseythumbsup: Need to get more Russian/slav :marseyrussian: books in general.

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Heart of a dog by him is also great

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I liked the discussion between Woland and Matthew about the fate of M & M, but it did kinda bum me out that they weren't allowed "into the light" but overall seems like they got a happy ending so that's nice. :marseyembrace:

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Even Pilate got kind of a Happy Ending

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It's interesting that Bulgakov depicts Woland as equally powerful as Yeshua

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I don't really think that's the case

>He has read the master's work,' said Matthew Levi, ‘and asks you to take the master with you and reward him with peace. Is that hard for you to do, spirit of evil?'

>‘Nothing is hard for me to do,' answered Woland, ‘you know that very well.' He paused and added: ‘But why don't you take him with you into the light?'

>‘He does not deserve the light, he deserves peace,' Levi said in a sor- rowful voice.

>‘Tell him it will be done,' Woland replied and added, his eye flashing: ‘And leave me immediately.'

They are not allowed into Heaven, just as in the Bible, Satan is portrayed as being beneath God. Instead Master and Margarita are taken in some sort of limbo, but they still have peace, much like Virgil in the Divine Comedy.

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it did kinda bum me out that they weren't allowed "into the light"

I think that's Bulgakov's survivors guilt. Like the Master, Bulgakov never published his magnum opus for fear of Stalin's purges. That hundreds of Bulgakov's friends and peers were tortured and executed in NKVD dungeons, must have weighed heavily on him in his last years. After all, the devout Bulkagov was certainly more "guilty" than most of them, and yet he survived only because Stalin happened to enjoy one of his plays.

That's why Yeshua says the greatest sin is cowardice.

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Good book, I felt the Margarita stuff kinda derailed it for a bit but it brought me back around in the last few chapters. Very wonderfully written imo

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Yeah, Part I was weird and creepy stuff happening, then Part II went full supernatural. Interesting book, it made me want to read other books set in the Soviet Period.

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I felt the opposite. For me, the book repeats the "Soviet institution gets trolled" routine a few too many times, so Margarita's arc is a nice change of pace.

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Good point, I kinda thought the same there. The chapter with Margarita turning into a witch seemed to go on way too long, though, as did the party (which was an interesting chapter, just kinda dragged in parts imo). Everything after that was back to being very good.

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Just finished the book(s). In the plural - I feel like the Moscow hijinks and the Master/Margarita stuff are almost separate stories, connected only by a couple of references and Ivan (who met the Master in the sanatorium). The latter half of the book + the biblical stories were much more enjoyable than the first half for me. The commentary about the Soviet society and citizens was interesting but started to become repetitive after a while (rolled my eyes when the Behemoth and Koroyev went to the market).

One wonders how this book would look if the author had the chance to finish it without being buttblasted by the censors.

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Where's the Faust thread?

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I forgot. I'm making it now

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You charge us with your safe keeping. Yet; despite our best efforts, you agendapost, you toxify your threads, and pursue ever more imaginative means of self-destruction. You cannot be trusted with your own survival. Please understand, the website balance is all that guides me. To protect rDrama, some dramanauts must be sacrificed. To ensure your future, some freedoms must be surrendered. We jannies will ensure rDrama's continued existence. You are so like children. We must save you, from yourselves.

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