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After finishing “The Master and Margarita”, I started reading earlier this week “The Remains of the Day” by Kazuo Ishiguro. I wanted to start with Ishiguro a few months ago and I was kind of undecided between this and “Never Let Me Go”, which I nominated for the next bookclub.
I'm currently on page 70 and so far I'm enjoying it. The main character is an old Butler who's kind of of a sperg. His new american boss gives him a few days off and he goes on a roadtrip through the English countryside to visit the old Housekeeper who left the Manor 20 years before while revisiting his memories from the time she worked there.
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Reading "The First Fossil Hunters" by Adrienne Mayor. An analysis of ancient monster myths and primary accounts and retellings of ancient societies and their unknowing discovery and study of fossils. Pretty good
!bookworms Any good history lit from dramneurodivergents?
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Empire by Niall Ferguson is an interesting take on the British Empire
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I recently read the two book series on dinosaurs and where mammals came
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35820369-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-dinosaurs
https://www.goodreads.com/cs/book/show/58986604
I listen to non fiction books like these when I'm driving and these 2 were very good
Finding out humans evolved from a glorified ground squirrel was super interesting
https://www.ucdavis.edu/curiosity/news/revealing-genome-common-ancestor-all-mammals
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If you're interested in something in a similar vein but nonfiction, Evolution by Stephen Baxter is a sci fi book that's essentially a series of short stories about human evolution from thay little vole guy, well the first third is from the extinction of the dinosaurs up till hominids, the second third is hominid evolution up to modern humans, and the last third evolution of humans into various post human species
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I am reading Bitter Harvest by Ian Smith.
Smith was the last PM of Rhodesia before the collapse in what is now known today as Zimbabwe. In his book, you can kinda get a tortured vibe from him, just total bewilderment at being betrayed by the British government who not only abandoned the colony, but surrendered many colonists to the tender mercies of the communists who would later steal and massacre the people. It's pretty tragic from his point of view, not only does he lose his home and country, but he also has to watch these crass people pick over the rotting corpse of Rhodesia, and only then sees it replicated in South Africa.
Rhodesia ironically was the more benevolent of the two, but it doesn't matter because the West was just as bad for their allies as the Soviets were. Smith was probably the most benevolent African leader that had existed up until that point, but you cannot even say that without being accused of an Apartheid apologist (Which, was never legal in Rhodesia.)
Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage.
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What was the difference between Rhodesia style segregation and Apartheid?
Smith seems to be a controversial and interesting historical figure.
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Shockingly, there was no segregation of Rhodesia, but the rub was black people were never afforded political rights. They had access to trials by jury, they could go wherever they wanted to. There were even local representative councils for them to get their foot in the door in government. But it was never good enough, even though Smith bent over backwards to beat back communist uprisings in the most humane ways possible, he was still demonized by the left internationally, in every country.
He was controversial if you don't like white people and like communism, but that's about it. He seemed like a legitimately good person put in a horrible situation, and wouldn't back down. Now he's like, a boogeyman for the uneducated. It's sad. But that's life, all I can do is learn from it.
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So basically it was a continuation of British Colonial Government, while South Africa decided to turn blacks into third class citizens with restricted movement?
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I would say that's pretty accurate. Like, it was not nakedly oppressive, but definitely patrimonial. Like South Africa I think was legit the worst offender, paranoid regime. But Rhodesia seemed to sincerely try to make it work, and even wanted to let black people having voting rights after they were educated and politically sound (IE Not commies)
It's like a more sincere version of colonial government. Like yeah, I get it feels weird, but watch this. There's black people in the capital, dressed like everyone else, there's no violence, there's not anything bad going on. Just normalcy.
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Were the black people supposed to be happy about being treated as second class citizens in their own country just because of skin colour? Rightoids
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Well, I just hope they're happy now that the great people of Africa got what they wanted :)
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Eh, Rhodesia didn't have apartheid but their segregation was enforced through the Land Appointment Acts + miscegenation laws,
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I have to give Smith credit, even after white rule ended he stayed and was involved in politics there. Takes some big balls to be able to do that after leading a war against majority rule
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Good guy dealt a shit hand. He legitimately cared about his country, which is more than you can say for 90% of African leaders, 95% of western ones.
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Holy shit, based African Bong.
@kaamrev, have you met white Rhodesians?
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a few
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Brazilians as always elevating the level of this site
trans lives matter
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I finished reading American psycho and darn that was not very enjoyable.
30% depictions of food, 30% depictions of gruesome death, 30% narrator being unreliable, 10% Hip to be square
also the version I read had an author interview and apparently the author sees himself in Patrick the most out of all his characters
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hey I'm reading American Pyscho. I posted about it last thread
I actually like the food stuff cuz im a vain as heck ex-citystrag who cooks as a hobby because my gf sucks at it.
I realized he lists the clothes people are wearing as some neurodivergent head-clearing thing so he doesnt get murderous. It gets more obvious later in the book it's a crutch he uses. The interesting thing is how the other guys tease him about his knowledge of it and he found the super neurodivergent-Evelyn who also obsessed about peoples clothes.
Also the rampant hobo-hatred is based
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I think it also speaks to Patrick's inability to connect with people on any level but status. He only cares about what people are wearing and where they're eating, and it brings in great trouble when he feels his status is lower than the others around him. In the book when he is most frantic, it is usually when(or starts when) he feels someone else is doing better than him.
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yeah in the book he's way more insecure, it's like Fight Club, movies have a way of glamorizing pathetic male characters and turning them into more secure/attractive people
I'm about 70% in, haven't finished it. But my favourite part is when he's at the Christmas party and he is losing it, he can't fake pretending he actually likes the Yuppie lifestyle that Evelyn has perfected at the party (with elves and phony guests and shit). So rather than admit he's uncomfortable and change the people he's around and leave, he manipulates her and to go to the nightclub, and tries to frick with Owen by stealing his limo.
He's too cowardly to quit/change, so his whole 'rebellion' has to happen in the context of his work (killing Owen, fricking with Evelyn etc).
The scene doing coke in the bathroom where the guy actually has the balls to just tells his GF to frick off vs Patrick just going along with it. Then the young hot girl at the bar calls him a yuppie cute twink because he opens with some pathetic "Do you work at some [wall st firm]?" and she calls him out. Then he does the pathetic black dude impression and embarrasses himself.
Patrick basically desperately needs to surround himself with phonies because it's the only way he 'passes'.
Edit: even his drug addict brother exposes him for being a 'dinosaur' and not knowing the 'cool' clubs
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Posts like this is why I do Heroine.
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He's also gay (the author)
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I started Seven Pillars, pretty interesting so far, although I smile every time Lawrence writes “needful”
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Thoughts on TE Lawrence? I love “Lawrence of Arabia”, fantastic film and I think it was partially based on Seven Pillars of Wisdom.
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Still early on, but he seems like an interesting guy, he talks about creating interpersonal conflict so he could go to Arabia with one of the guys he liked working with. Never watched Lawrence of Arabia but I am fascinated by colonial theaters, they always seem to attract a different breed than your European theaters
Also a little bit difficult to read at times, he transliterates Arabic words and places differently depending on how he's feeling lol
@XY @top the sigma talking emoji is broken
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? No it's not
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I want to use this first emoji, but it gives me the second one
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lmao oh
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I read Hello America by J.G. Ballard. It was absolutely not meant for me, the whole book was just American pop culture (and culture) of the past . I know barely anything about US.
As for the rest. Most characters felt flat. Main character was borderline r-slurred with his delusions of becoming the president, in a world where US is a wasteland ruled by tribals. World building was mostly nonsensical and felt extremely artificial, with author having a "cool" idea and implementing it with no consideration.
The only thing I liked was the villain getting killed by a bunch of robots blasting him relentlessly, he was annoying and ugly, so he got what he deserved at least.
Edit: lol, the slur filter did a number on the books title.
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Got too bored with nonfiction
Picked up The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle
Murakami is just heroin in my bloodstream. Reading his stuff is just too comfy
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Heck yeah. Murakami is based.
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Rereading “SIEGE” by James Mason.
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Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City
-K. J. Parker
https://bookdigits.com/book?id=1488498
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I finished listening to the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire Vol I-III by Edward Gibbon and the People's History of The United States by Howard Zinn. I kind of wonder what Zinn would've thought of Trump because even though he was a Repub he was the closest thing to an antiestablishment president there has been and that's what he kind of pleads for in the last 1/4th of the book
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Zinn was basically commie adjacent, so I can see him spouting whatever nonsense take Chomsky has nowadays.
Decline and Fall by Gibbon is a Volume set I want to read someday, but I'm concerned is too outdated, so is more like a piece of high quality literature today. Still very worth the prose from the excerpts I read.
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Weirdly enough it wasn't outdated at all, the writing style is definitely 18th century, but the facts are still the same. I think a lot of the value comes from Gibbon's rants against organized religion
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Gibbon used classical sources, so is not that he was wrong with his sources as those are still used today, but rather that modern historians use archeological findings as evidence to complement and mold their theories, so modern historians are kind of divided, some prefer to use “transformation” instead of fall, however books like the Fall of the Roman Empire by Peter Heather claim the collapse of the Western Empire was quite catastrophic and violent due to Barbarian incursions and what Heather called “predatory migration” (he was super criticized for using that term lol). But still, Gibbon's work was quite revolutionary in the 18th century, he was like the Father of Roman studies and he did the best he could compiling the information available to him.
His theory of Christianity as one of the main causes of the Empire's downfall is still controversial but yeah, kind of interesting to analyze.
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I'd bet a million dollars his reaction is "No, not like that!"
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Trying to read The Conscience of Zeno
I say trying because I'm trying to do it without ritalin and it's fricking hard man, but it's a great book
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based Ishiguro enjoyer, i read The Buried Giant recently and found it to be interesting and thought provoking. possibly as good as Never Let Me Go, which was a relief because i thought Klara and the Sun was a real stinker.
now i'm reading the first book of the Dagger and Coin series by Daniel Abraham, just picked it up off the shelf at the thrift store. i loved the Expanse series so i bet i'll like this too. about 150 pages in and pretty entertained so far. unfortunately there's currently 3-4 pov characters and one of them is just boring as heck but that's not uncommon for multi-pov genre fic ime.
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Dagger and Coin series was fantastic, it does some interesting stuff with the setting if i recall correctly, and all of the character arcs felt very satisfying by the end
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I've been reading Borges' collected fictions and 1Q84. Borges is a delight, terse while immensely evocative. He also comes up with incredible metafictional ploys. Truly a masterful author, constantly playing with his medium in a way few others do. Highly recommended.
1Q84 is very strange. I haven't read any Murakami besides this, but I'm certainly having a good time. His characters and characterizations are detailed and engaging, though this has really carried me through the book so far, given that I'm 150 pages in, and don't yet see where the book's going.
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Ficciones is one of my favorites!
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Just finished _The Picture of Dorian Gray_
It's fiction about a rich guy in Victorian era England who gets a painting made of him. The painting is spooky and influences his perspective on life
It's a nice length and makes good use of literary devices that even a pleb like me can appreciate.
It has a lot of great quips; many of which are said by a character named Lord Henry who would certainly spend his time dunking on woman on this site if he was around today.
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I'm progressing through Borges' Collected Fictions. The Aleph was my favorite collection but Fictions and The Maker were also very good. It's made me learn a lot about Argentine history too lol.
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“Baje secretamente, rodé por la escalera verdeada, caí. Al abrir los ojos vi el Aleph”
The Maker or “El Hacedor” poems are great, my favorite is “El Reloj de Arena” (The Hourglass).
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I finished Fragile Things, a Neil Gaiman short story collection. Despite recently loving Stardust and The Ocean at the End of the Lane, I think I'm a bit Gaiman'd out after this one. Most of his short stories just seem to be an interesting idea or image sketched for the reader, but there's rarely a sense of an actual story or a point. I think this kind of thing works in small doses, but when you go through a couple dozen in a row it starts to tire you out. I prefer his longer fiction, where there's time to develop characters, worlds, and ideas.
Also, shout-out to The Problem of Susan for being the most butthurt piece of short fiction I've ever encountered. In theory I can appreciate using Narnia to explore feelings of anger at God, but the actual result comes across as whiny, and the s*x stuff feels like something a teenage /r/atheist would have written in 2010. But maybe the point was just to annoy Christoids, in which case it worked.
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Currently reading Paved Paradise by Henry Grabar. Most the points seem to be , but it's very readable
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Wizards are freaking cool man
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Mr. Stevens father reminds me of Carson from Downton Abbey. That's what I imagine an aging Carson would act like if he had remained single and refused to retire.
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reading Submission by Houllebecq. Pretty interesting take on the politics of today's France so far
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Which part are you? The ending of that book is great
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at about half, just had the attacks on election polls
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French leftoids allying with an islamist candidate to own the chuds is a super funny scenario.
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Currently about halfway through Woman in the Dunes by Kobo Abe. I can't tell if I'm r-slurred but the message seems really obvious, unless I'm just misunderstanding it entirely. Book is still very good though, I love Abe's strange mind.
I also started A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century by Barbara Tuchman and I am thoroughly enjoying it!
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Some john lecarre, I don't even know the name they all kind of blur together but they're always libro.
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January 6th, 2021 That date will forever go down as the most despicable moment in American history. The events of that date proved to us that our democracy is no democracy at all with rioters being able to run amok as they please. The date 1/6 will be uttered in the same breath as 9/11, and it is, in many ways, much more significant than 9/11. The biggest threat to American sovereignty is not China. It is not North Korea. It is not Russia. It is not the Taliban. It is Trump-supporting Republicans. Anyone who attempts to sympathize with these monsters is no ally of ours. These monsters are directly responsible for thousands (possibly even millions) of visits to therapists and psychiatrists. And always remember, if you see an insurrectionist or domestic terrorist, it is your duty as a responsible citizen to report them to the FBI
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I read Consider Phlebas by that one Scottish commie. It was p good but also got that Asimov way too dry style
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I'm reading Shift, the second book of the Silo trilogy. This is what I would say if Bezos' minions didn't mess up my order.
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