Russian :marseyrussian: :russia: Literature Classics discussion thread

The 19th century Russian Empire was a great era for their national writers and poets like Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, Pushkin, Gogol, Chekov. With stories raging from reckless foids :marseywomanmoment: to raging incels :chudtantrum:

!bookworms !classics, what are the works, writers and characters of Russian Literature you love and those you hate? And what are your unpopular opinions/hot takes on them?

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Banned :marseyaisha: for promoting Zigger :marseyitsoverputin: literature :marseyelli:

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:#marseybrasileirogenocide: :#marseyflagbrazilgenocide::#marseydisintegrate:

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Banned for banning for promoting Zigger literature

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:#marseywerebackbrasileiro:

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Russian literature stands on three pillars: the suffering of the characters, the suffering of the author and the suffering of the reader.

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Im a relatively good Russian speaker and there is a certain additive grimness in the original language.

I have personally found Pushkin and Tolstoy to be annoying r-slurs with neither insight nor interesting premises to validate reading their literature.

Dostoyevsky and Gogol however have interesting premises of books and yet through them manage to push out great insights. Gogol in particular is interesting because he is one of the few people in history who can arguably be considered a real historic Ukrainian, but he wrote mostly in Russian about how Cossacks are cool, the Tsar is sacred, and Poles are n words

TL;DR skip Tolstoy and Pushkin read Dosto and Gogol

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>and Poles are n words

Mind to explain that one? Lmao

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Sure. Most of the territory of today's Ukraine was under Poland-Lithuania, and the Cossacks and Ruthenians living therein generally didn't like piving under Poland. There were something like six uprisings, upon which Gogol based one of his best works "Taras Bulba" on. Resistance against the Poles became a key part of national consciousness of both Ukrainians and Russians over that time.

In Taras Bulba the Poles are depocted as greedy, immoral, vain, yet not particularly clever or innovative (outsourcing this to Jews), and they win the story by whoring out one of their noble daughters to a son of the Cossack commander who was in love to thus make their war effort buckle.

Its kind of a reverse of the Polish book "With fire and sword" if you know Polish literature.

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I read a couple books by Tolstoy and they were unironically boring as frick :marseyyawn:

Dostoevski though remains one of my favorite writers, I loved The Idiot so much

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I liked Karamazov more than Crime and Punishment, recommend which Gogol I should read first pls

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Taras Bulba and Viy are my personal favourites of his. The former as a historical flick on war honour and filial piety, the latter as something that I consider critical to development of modern horror

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Thanks m8 Ive added both to my list

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Pushkin is a cute twink and poetry is gay trans lives matter.

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Pushkin was a BIPOC, we can't tolerate this type of racism

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Crime and Punishment is just Great Expectations for r-slurs trans lives matter

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crime and punishment is very good, would recommend. anna karenina i didnt enjoy very much but i was like 16 years old at the time. im at about halfway finished with brothers karamazov right now and its top tier

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Which translation are you reading?

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garnett 1912. the one which still uses the word "gay" as "happy", it always cracks me up especially when the monks use it

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Unbanned for promoting Zigger literature

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I'll be honest, my reading of Russian classics is limited. That's why I specifically read Fathers and Sons by Turgenev a few years ago to get some exposure.

I have mixed feelings. I can see why the book is an important testimony to the times, but I also hated it and struggled to finish. Primarily because I despised Yevgeny with my whole heart. And just about every other character was a spineless little worm as well. It's really rare for me to dislike everyone involved in a story.

I'm glad I read it as exposure to something historically important, but I haven't gotten back on the Russian Lit train since. :marseycoffee:

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I read the brothers :marseyrustyventure: karmasov when i was a kid and i still think :marseymischevious: about alot of the lines and concepts on the daily. I think :marseymischevious: thats the mark of high art vs pop trash. I started demons hut never :marseyitsover: finished :marseysunglasseson: it cause I've developed severe doomer :marseyitsoverwerebackchingchon: brain :marseyconfuseddead: which prevents me from finishing books.

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Hardship breeds high art :#marseyvatnik:

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What hardship? Life under the czar and communism was heaven.

Glory to Russia! :marseysaluteussr:

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gulag archipelago was best really

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who are these people?

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Honestly, I don't think I hate women, I just like making fun of them. I def hate rightoids way more.

In many ways my anti-foid views are a relic of my political awakening at like 22 or 23. My first ever feeling of political disgust was reading a UN report that kept saying "women and children" to inflate the foid numbers.

That was my first exposure to femtardism, and I became a rabid anti-feminist for a number of years

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