Books I have read till now which could be said to meet the expectations I set above:
1. Iliad and The Odyssey
2. The Epic of Gilgamesh
3. The Aeneid
4. Bhagavad Gita
5. History of the Peloponnesian War
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Books which could definitely be considered Epics but not enough time has passed for them to reach that revered stratosphere of national epics. (NOT LOOKING FOR THESE)
1. War and Peace
2. The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. Edward Gibbons
3. The Second World War. Winston Churchill
4. Wolf Hall
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I have narrowed it down to 4 choices
Before you say Beowulf I say to you "ROPE AND COPE"
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!bookworms need help with finding Japanese/Chinese/Korean Ancient epics. Suggestions?
I'm seeing there's a trend that most of the greatest historical epics stretch from Mediterranean to present day Afghanistan and North West India. The same region which was said to be the land of the Aryans. !nooticers
!bharatiya should have consulted you guys before doing this but I just express ordered the Vivek DevRoy translation (I would trust an Indian translator more than a non Indian one) but I don't know if there are better ones. Do you think it's a good enough translation?
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Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
They made America what it is today frankly. They're in British so you made need to get a translated version.
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Around my house
we call Donald DRUMPF "he who shall not be named". 
And Sinema is just like Dolores Umbridge. When will she wise up and vote blue?? 
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Sinema is a hot piece of sneed inducing butt and Dolores umbridge was a super duper fat awful cow.
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Táin Bó Cúailnge (The Cattle Raid of Cooley) tells of Cú Chulainn cursed to fight the armies of Connacht single-handedly.
!besties !bookworms
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https://manasataramgini.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/indo-european-miscellany-the-kar%e1%b9%87a-class-of-motifs/
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!bharatiya educate yourselves
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R-slurred post. What even is the article about anyway
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The Lusiads
!macacos
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Vou começar a cobrar Os LusĂadas e/ou MacunaĂma como leitura obrigatĂłria pra entrar no !macacos
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Só falta “Os Sertões” do Euclides da Cunha
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It's pleasantly easy to read for an epic (at least the Oxford World's Classics English translation is). Would recommend!
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This is the heritage of every nation (whether they know it or not)
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Not enough time
At least 5-600 years
You know any good ancient Greco-Roman books on economics? I have read Aristotle(Rhetorics) and Plato (Politics) but my knowledge about ancient philosophy ends about there.
Interestingly neither of them are mentioned as the greatest lawgivers of history in the Capitol
https://www.aoc.gov/explore-capitol-campus/art/relief-portrait-plaques-lawgivers
Maybe one day when I have enough time I'll complete the famous works of all 23
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Economics is a modern field, though basic first semester shit was known, it wasn't quite developed like math or philosophy was in ancient times. It could be said that the lack of crucial economic principles was a major factor preventing further industrialization in Ancient Rome
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Dunno of any myself but I would actually be interested in Roman economics too.
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That shit is so boring. Like, the guy was so right that everything he says is just common sense these days, but it makes for a terrible read. Dropped it about a quarter in.
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That's economics in general
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MartĂn Fierro by JosĂ© Hernández
We need a marsey capy gaucho by the way
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Have you eead that one?
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I read the abridged version
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This reminds me that I read a Donald Duck Kalevala comic ages ago
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Romance of the Three Kingdoms
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This is such the 'duh' answer
that it mystifies me why OP even bothered making this post.
See also: Journey into the West, The Water
Margin, Dreams of the Red Chamber and Hong Kong Phooey episodes 1-16.
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Yes. I have. Do you know what you get if you tried searching "great historical epics"?
Fricking LOTR makes every rank. At that rate I would have to make note of every chingchong sounding name then cross reference it to Wikipedia to see their dates if they are really epics or just famous books. Then select the best one or two among them and then I would have to again check reddit and other forums if it is the equivalent of Herodotus' Histories (what I want to read) or Marcus Aurelius' Meditations (it's an ancient classic work but it's not an epic).
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I know it's not what you're looking
for but The Last Kingdom 
series 
by Bernard Cornwell is both historical 
and, y'kno, good.
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Only chinks can read and understand [..] Red Chamber.
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It's not hard...
A talking stone
tells a guy to build 
a garden and then generations of foids 
argue about men in it.
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Yeah when you dumb it down to that level no book is difficult.
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Patrician taste.
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You have to be very high IQ to understand the work of Scatman Crothers.
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Nice suggestion bro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Chinese_Novels
Found this entire section on Wikipedia and I'm going to search for good translations now
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Kama sutra
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gonna be a cringe from me
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everyone dies by the end. lmao spoiled
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I mean it was written over 2000 years ago. If everyone isn't dead it would be really unbelievable, even for an mythological epic
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How about Murasaki Shikibu's The Tale of Genji?
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I didn't know about it. Thanks
I'll search it now.
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The NYT expose of 1/6
https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000007606996/capitol-riot-trump-supporters.html
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But unironically read more pre-socratics and greeks.
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I dont think
ovid metamorpheases counts ij yoyr criteria. Its a classic 
but its not a national 
origin story 
like the homerics or the aeneid.
Also if you are gonna
read Thucydides then read Herodotus Histories before 
hand. The order is Histories (Persian war), the history 
of the Peloponnesian, and then the hellenica by Xenophon (this covers the rest of the Peloponnesian war and picks up exactly where 
Thucydides left off). Thucydides died before 
he finished 
his book and Xenophon was continuing right 
from his notes 
for the first 
few books. My ancient 
greek 
culture prof who could read ancient 
greek 
said the style of xenophon is the exact same as Thucydides for the first 
few books.
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Herodotus's Histories I have read
Xenophon i haven't read
Then jump to Roman history, I haven't read Livy Tacitus or Arrian
Then Plutarch's Parallel Lives I have read
I have Cicero's Orations but I haven't read it, seems more of a philosophical read.
Same with Seneca and Epictetus although I have read them because I was really into stoicism for a while
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Here's a bunch (I hope, because i didn't read any of them or the wikipedia page. Also, wikipedia warning)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_folk-epics
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I love Arabian Nights
Content warning: bbc cuck fiction
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THE DIVINE COMEDY
FITS INTO THIS CATEGORY TBH
Trans lives matter
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Kisari Mohan Ganguli's "The Mahabharata of Krishna-Dwaipayana Vyasa Translated into English Prose" is one of the more literal ones.
Debroy's 10 volume translation is also good it seems .
But do not get anything by Doniger and her followers.
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An American classic:
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Debroy is a good translator
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