/r/writing: "Do I need friends to be a good writer?"

Reminds me of Hayao Miyazaki's "!Anime was a mistake." What he actually said was:

You see, whether you can draw like this or not, being able to think up this kind of design, it depends on whether or not you can say to yourself, “Oh, yeah, girls like this exist in real life.” If you don't spend time watching real people, you can't do this, because you've never seen it. Some people spend their lives interested only in themselves. Almost all Japanese animation is produced with hardly any basis taken from observing real people, you know. It's produced by humans who can't stand looking at other humans. And that's why the industry is full of otaku!

Anime is garbage because it's made by people whose life and relationship with reality is entirely based on anime. /r/writing's books are garbage because they're written by people whose life and relationship with reality is entirely based on whatever books they've read. A copy of a copy, degenerating further with each link in the chain.

As an aside, it's pretty funny that despite telling OP all he needs to do is read, not one of them noticed they're basically advising him to be Matt Damon at the start of Good Will Hunting, pre-Robin Williams pointing out what an idiot he is. /r/writing is reading the wrong fricking books and watching the wrong fricking !kino.

!bookworms, if you want a story that takes the idea of "personal isolation" to the absolute extreme, check out Robert A. Heinlein's "'—All You Zombies—'". The Spierig Brothers adapted it into a film with Ethan Hawke, but you can skip that. They totally missed the point of the story.

Feel bad for OP. Especially because he's getting advice about being a friendless loser from friendless losers

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This is likely one of those "I was molested" dogwhistles.

I don't even think you need friends, you just need to do things with people. The guy you work with could be an absolute lolcow that you despise, but he can serve as great fodder for a character in a story.

The problem is these people are NEETs or working lonely jobs, not that they don't have friends.

You don't need friends to be a good writer but you need at least to interact with people lol, otherwise your characters will always sound uncanny.

All those words spent writing about writing they could have actually been writing

!writecel lmao

plenty of popular writers were incurable losers. he could be the next lovecraft!

I've literally never had consensual s*x and my A03 account is teeming with it. We live in a time when you can watch pretty much any kind of interaction on youtube or, yknow other websites, and get a feel for what seems natural and what doesn't.

It's a foid, so likely was r*ped

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more likely claiming to be an abuse victim (but most writercels do, which is why they freak out when they discover nabokov )

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You don't need friends to make good art but if you have to ask this kind of question your never going to be a good artist of any kind.

write what you know

We're very aware that the female-dating-strategy subreddit is operated for the purpose of misinformation, cult-like indoctrination, promoting dysfunction and hatred and negative emotions.

There's an extremely excellent reason (backed up by hours of discussion, ten-thousand-word essays no one outside our mod team will ever read, and theory literature digging and reaching out to experts) why AHS does not put the words "incel" and "women" into the same noun phrase the way that you did in your comment here:

It's because one of the major methods of bad faith apologetics for hate movements is the Tu Quoque: "They're just as bad".

But -- importantly -- the female-dating-strategy is not:

pushing their members to remove condoms to commit rape;

pushing their members to commit rape;

pushing their members to assault men;

pushing their members to murder men;

pushing their members to stalk and terrorise men.

Importantly, there are no mass murders committed by FDS adherents. There are no restraining orders that we're aware of that cite the FDS subreddit. There are no men on Twitter stepping forward to say that members of the FDS movement are bombarding them with unwelcome tweets and direct messages, sexual advances, and photoshopping pornography of them.

In fact we cannot find any credible evidence that there are any groups of powerful women who take over institutions of power to leverage oppression of men as a whole class.

So calling them anything like "incels" is comparing sour apples to radium poisoning.

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I've literally never had consensual sex and my A03 account is teeming with it. We live in a time when you can watch pretty much any kind of interaction on youtube or, yknow other websites, and get a feel for what seems natural and what doesn't.:

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I think it's not so much about having friends as being perceptive and observant about what friendships (and other relationships) are and how they function.:

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Writing is a solitary endeavor. You don't need anything but your own wits and skills to write. I've had no friends pretty much my entire life, and that has never stopped me, but then I have always spent a lot of time in my own imagination creating stories to fill in those times when I was alone and had no friends. Writing relationships or friendship and dialogue in a story is no different than a man writing a female character or writing about any subject you don't know about. If you don't know how to write it, research it.:

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You don't need personal experience to write. You need to read books to see how relationships are written and how dialogue is written. Reading books gives you examples on how writing and scenes work, how to word things to get your point across.:

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I mean it might not affect your writing but having friends will help a lot in life so I'd highly recommend having some, even if it's only a few!:

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It helps to write from experience. It sounds like you're not so much worried about how this will affect your writing as how it's affecting you on a human level. Take yourself on artist dates. Go out to places and events you want to see, join some meetup groups in your interests (I guarantee you've got a writing group or two, at least a book club, near you). Above all, know that solitude is a good thing and important to your understanding of yourself, but building a social life--while energy intensive--is just as important.:

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