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[Book recommendation] The fricking Hot Zone: The fricking Terrifying True Story :marseyslime: of the fricking Origins of the fricking Ebola Virus :marseycovidscare:

https://a.co/d/frzkIQj

The fricking ketamine must be working :marseylifting: bc I'm reading :marseymoreyouknow: for pleasure again :marseywholesome:

It's basically about this one cave which is the fricking origin of Ebola and Marburg (basically b-word :marseychonkerbutch: butt Ebola).

It talks about trying to find the fricking source :marseymissing2: of the fricking diseases, what they do to the fricking body, the fricking terrifying spread :marseymisinformation: and trying to figure :marseypop: out what the fricking heck was fricking going :marseysalmaid: on in Africa :marseyblackpanther: basically.

I read half the fricking book yesterday and will probably finish it today. It's an easy read/brain candy. Highly recommend if you want to get absorbed into a fricking book since Netflix is fricking shit these days.

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We read this in biology class in high school and it scared the shit out of me.

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I have that one on my Kindle but haven't read it yet. If you're into environmental and health books I recommend Charles Mann's “1491” and “The Wizard and the Prophet”. The first is about precolumbian American, part 3 goes into how the Amazon forest is not really natural but a profuct of deliberate seeding and selection by indians, most of whom died of diseases after the columbian exchange, and the second is about 2 men, William Vogt (The Prohet) who was the father of apocalyptic environmentalism and Norman Borlaug, the father of the Green Revolution, and how both these men shaped our current views on the environment (conservation/degrowth/reduce consumption/reduce population vs technology/GMOs/improving yields)

!bookworms

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LOVE NORMAN BORLAUG

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Neo-Malthusiancels in shambles !neolibs

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:marseydisagree: he's responsible for at least a billion thirdies

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That's good and all, which one was that Norwegian fisherman who rejected technology until he sailed away and started murdering executives as a vigilante?

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Looks good. I'll give it a read.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17137937159299545.webp

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Does it mention that the disease will often spread quickly because ebola spreads from direct contact, and the funerary tradition in some parts of Africa is for the loved ones to scream and

ROLL ALL OVER THE CORPSE

?

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I came back to just say that I read this cover to cover three separate times in highschool, and it's what made me really consider epidemiology

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Propaganda working

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Probably tbh

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Also don't forget about climate change and whole Europe going under water in 1998, 2000, 2002…

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:#marseyschizowall:

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Samsies :turtoise:

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Is it true that ebola was caused by sheepfricking?

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No, not sheepfricking. It's more likely that it transmitted from 'bush meat'. Many people in different parts of Africa eat smaller primates as well as chimpanzee (from my understanding, not very often, as taking down a chimpanzee is difficult).

The book also implied that it could have come from a sexual encounter, from a primate.

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It's more likely that it transmitted from 'bush meat'

tbh we can't laugh at the Africans too much, one day us plains-cels are all gonna get CWD from the wrong deer

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It's not totally impossible, CWD has only been observed since 2005 in the US.

CWD is a prion disease, meaning that functions like cooking doesn't kill it. That also means that it spreads through waste as well as infected meat.

It can stay dormant in an environment for years, even.

This video is short and breaks it down very well:

I guess there was a case of two hunters recently dying after eating CWD infected meat:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/04/19/zombie-deer-disease-hunters-died-infected-venison/73384647007/

(I'm taking this with a grain of salt, though)

But it won't cause a zombie apocalypse. At worst, it looks like the symptoms manifest similar to CJD.

Which is still awful, but it's not as r-slurred as a ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE

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I live in the midwest in a hotspot area for CWD and I refuse to eat deer.

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Fair

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Tbh I expect CWD to become a bigger problem in the North American Interior in the coming decades, and we'll probably see more human cases, but I don't think it will go pandemic level

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I'll be honest, I don't forsee that happening. The amount of people who've eaten venison on a consistent basis, since 2005, in States with CWD concentrations is so high.

Surely, we would have seen more examples of cross species infection by now.

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The amount of people who've eaten venison on a consistent basis, since 2005, in States with CWD concentrations is so high.

That's true, I think the group to watch would be the :marseycherokee:, if anyone will get it they should. Venison heavy diet, poor healthcare, weaker immune systems (both naturally and from :marseycherokee: activities)

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Don't those diseases take sometimes decades to manifest symptoms? And my understanding was CWD wasn't yet proven to be transmissible to humans- keyword being "yet".

When it does make the jump that's the end of all deer hunting in North America

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Brits were eating vast amounts of mad cows for years, CJD is horrible but humans must be resistant to prion diseases as the numbers never reached close to predictions. Similar for scrapies.

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:#marseyropeyourself:

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I had to put down the sand which I was eating and take a break when I started reading this book

:marseypuke:

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I liked the hot zone, but it was a bit spiced up to make it more of a thriller than legitmate information. A better book would be Spillover

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It's very overdramatic ( :marseyxd:) Spillover by David Quammen is way more interesting

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since Netflix is fricking shit these days

It was always dhit it's just…

You just getting older and soon will start knitting :darcyknitting:

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Will make you a fricking sweater :marseynightmare: 🤗

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Or socks for my dog :marseywholesome:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1713790717179766.webp

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I have to admit that i'm getting to an age where I want to start wearing crochet bobble hats.

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The fricking Hot Zone: The fricking Terrifying True Story of the fricking Origins of the fricking Ebola Virus

i don't wanna read a book that has :quote: frick :quote: in the title that many times :hmph:

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FroCho, you are by far the best poster here.

Snapshots:

https://a.co/d/frzkIQj:

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I'm currently reading In Cold Blood by Truman Capote but I'll give this one a go afterwards. :#marseylongpost:

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Airport :marseymanysuchcases: scene :marseyarthoe6:

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If you like history turned drama there's a great Canadian author I can recommend

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