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One of our own, and greatest, dramatards became homeless and shitposted from a public library and died on Jan 5 2001. Had he lived, he could have stopped Jan 6.
RIP JerryFromTomAndJerry. Maybe next time don't do so many drugs.
If you live in a hustle and bustle, homeless people have been a problem fro decades.
However, the problem seemingly everywhere is that a lot of people no longer know how to act in public anymore. They act r-slurred, neurodivergent, and like no one else exists.
Homeless people have been around forever but it definitely seems like they're more abundant and worse behaved these days. It's exacerbated by libs' insistence on treating them like urban wildlife, where you ignore them the same as you would a coyote.
The library stuff especially bothers me because it's a perfect example of how fricked up everything has become. They're basically treated like de facto homeless shelters, with social workers on staff and everything. But at the same time there aren't enough actual homeless shelters or people to staff them, and so you can't push back on how insane that is, and as a result nobody uses a library for library shit anymore because they'd rather not deal with multiple homeless people jacking off on the free internet.
Noooooooooo! You can't expect homeless people to behave themselves and respect the people around them! You have to pretend they aren't there and not make eye contact with them!
After desegregation society slowly adopted the idea that restricting people's access to public goods for any reason was wrong. The noble idea that people shouldn't be restricted because of their race slowly melted into you can't restrict severely asocial people without being a bigot. They refuse to realize that by giving these asocial people unlimited access to public areas, they are actually restricting these areas from the 99% of society that won't go to a place that allows violent drug addicts, mentally ill racists, or public fetishist.
I was reading a fascinating post-mortem of the mall as a pillar of American culture. One of the major arguments the author gave for the explosion of malls in the 60s onwards is that their rise coincided with the American legal system, driven on by idealistic naivety of certain civil rights groups, basically eliminating any power the state could have to police any sort of antisocial behavior in public. Faced with parks, libraries, mass transit, and other such shared institutions becoming places that could no longer be enjoyed in relative peace, quiet, and safety, the American public turned to the mall. It became the anchor of a community, featuring places to walk and sit, entertainment venues, and the amenities needed to become a hangout spot, all protected by mall security equipped with the right to eject and exclude antisocial individuals.
I'm glad I haven't been in a bustle zone library since before the Internet became ubiquitous so I never had to deal with hobos jerking off openly on a computer.
Libraries around me have actually expanded the services they offer in some cool ways, like access to 3D printing and recording spaces, but idk if it's enough to make me want to deal with piss-covered fent zombies.
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>Nooooo we HAVE to keep around institutions that only made sense 150 years ago when the average person had almost no access to books, we just HAVE to spend tax money on libraries and schools even though the Internet has made 95% of the actual education value that they provide easy to just get for free online
the Internet has made 95% of the actual education value that they provide easy to just get for free online
I'd rather read the book physically and get it at the library without spending my check I set aside for Funko Pops to get a rare and expensive book like William Gass' The Tunnel even though I pirate. Academic press books are usually the only “genre” of books I can't find at public libraries but PDFs of them are in abundance on the web. They're great to read. Discuss !bookworms
Public Libraries took on the duties of the town square/commons, and its in public interest that the town square/commons is publicly controlled instead of divided up among a hundred private interests.
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Portland Central Library was one of my favorite places when I was a kid. It was built about a century ago, back when public buildings were supposed to show your city's prestige, so it's got huge marble staircases and cavernous rooms with high ceilings and shelf after shelf of books. Now at least half the people there are homeless and there's sheriff's deputies constantly making the rounds, walking by about every 10 minutes. And they still can't stop people from going into the restroom and pooping on the floor right in front of the potty.
I knew somebody who became a librarian. She was always kind of a leftoid but not in your face about it. When she started going for the library degree I notice she got way more political. This was around the late 2000s and she was already all about Foucault and s and stuff. At the time I thought it just grew out of her own personality, but in hindsight it's obvious that the librarians were just woke way ahead of everyone else. She cared about all these weird issues that nobody else cared about, but around 2014-2016 those issues suddenly became the only thing the left would ever talk about.
People won't admit it but librarians are on the level of retail wagies. It pays surprisingly well and it's bottlenecked behind degrees, and they definitely select the woke left leaning types to do the job. Organizing the dewey system and checking out books is as hard as stacking shelves and operating a check out, tardwrangling the homeless at the computer is as hard as wrangling the homeless at a fast food store.
I guess that's why it's been able to sort of devolve into a woke thing, they can be really selective on who they bring in because so many people want the job.
A good librarian is supposed to be really good at helping you with research, and huge corporations will hire them to do that, keep their shit properly archived and indexed, or to do pretty much anything that involves tending to data. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them are as you describe, but beyond just tending to shelves and shit it's a pretty specialized job.
The big library in Seattle is a very impressive building. If I had something similar close to where I live I'd probably use it all the time just for the novelty of it.
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I remember the exact moment libraries turned to shit: it was when they all bought a bunch of PCs and let people access the internet there. From that moment on, public libraries have been well-staffed goon caves for the homeless.
I pity Zoomers and Milennials never getting to experience going to a nice library back in the day when you couldn't just google shit. I used to write a list of things I was curious about on a scrap of paper all week and then on Saturday, I'd get to go to the library and read about those things.
someone posted this on the reddit thread and it's right:
When I was quite young I went on the public library computer and cruised the information superhighway straight to playboy.com but I got spooked that someone would see so I geared down and coasted on over to neopets.
At least once a week someone tries watching porn on them in front of everyone . And the staff are all non-confrontational foids so they scuttle around trying to make sure that's what he's -really- doing.
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I regularly went to the public library in order to get a quiet place to study away from home.
The degenerates on the computers are absolute animals. An old guy sitting there watching asian girl fetish smoking videos and getting off on it, another old guy watching videos of half naked kids on youtube (no shit) and the librarians refusing to ban him for it. Kids loitering in the lobby. A few genuine neurodivergent types go and watch videos of bee hives on the computer . There's dedicated shrines to LGBT and anti-racism everywhere, and drag queen story hour isn't a meme it happens at least twice a year. A lot of conservative leaning people avoid taking their kids to the library for that reason.
People still go to the upper floors for the library for study. However, for a good 10+ years at this point nobody gets the books out. You could remove everything but the reference section cut down the floor space 80%, and fire 80% of the staff, and the place would still function the same as a quiet study area. Go take the free computers somewhere else as well, make that a separate government service. In fact, digitize the reference section and seal away the archives in boxes.
The entire place gets by on its reputation of being a "smart person thing", but it's just another bloated public service. The research assistants in the archive section make good money but do literally nothing all day. It absolutely is a useless money sink, but if you suggest privatizing it everyone makes out you're some Luddite because "hurr u don't like education and books".
Homeless aren't that hard to deal with. When I was growing up, there were homeless on every other street pestering me for money. Now I barely see any at all since it was becoming a problem and the city authorities decided to actually do something about it. They just need to be annoying enough and the local government well funded enough to pay someone to deal with them.
I'm gonna assume you're an undercover Singaporeanesecel talking about shipping these bums to a chinese wolfram mine with bamboo sticks driven under their toenails.
When I moved into my new town, me and the girl went to the local library. Only one weirdo homeless guy there, mumbling to himself among the other patrons; but he seemed to be doing something actually productive on the computer, rather than openly jerking off to PornHub. So that's re-assuring.
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This triggers me because I have a friend who works in a public library, and the stories he tells are just depressing.
Cities basically treat libraries as a community gathering spot, and keeps telling them to do more outreach and events that are completely unrelated to the function of the library. Some library administrators even encourage the staffs to actively bend the rules to accommodate stupid demands. They of course reverse it when they can no longer appease those patrons and pretend they care about the wellbeing of their staff.
Being a public service institution, you can imagine the place is filled by progressive-leaning people in its staff. Seeing them sycophantically cheering at more "innovations" and "caringness" first-hand must have been heck. I will not forget the look he gave me when he told me one of his co-worker's response to the questions "what is the most important thing for a library" was its "welcoming nature."
I hate progressives. I hate them more whenever I hear of their latest antics. Those people are so oblivious of the real world, yet they are so entrenched in the decision-making duty of our cultural institutions.
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The internet has largely replaced the traditional societal role of a library. The only people who still go there are the type of people who are somehow otherwise unable to access the internet.
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One of our own, and greatest, dramatards became homeless and shitposted from a public library and died on Jan 5 2001. Had he lived, he could have stopped Jan 6.
RIP JerryFromTomAndJerry. Maybe next time don't do so many drugs.
!oldstrags !boomers !dramatards !historychads
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Yall neighbors been around here since 2001?
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"Here" has been around since before the neighbors, neighbor
!oldstrags !boomers !dramatards !historychads
rDrama derives from /r/Drama
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but 2001 was 24 years ago
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I'm not sure who that "JerryFromTomAndJerry" fella is, but apparently he meant 2021.
Also, Reddit was founded in 2005.
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Lol that makes more sense.
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What happened to justcool? Someone mentions him in that thread.
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Rip Jerry
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He was genuinely a kind and funny guy, total outlier for reddit jannies.
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If you live in a hustle and bustle, homeless people have been a problem fro decades.
However, the problem seemingly everywhere is that a lot of people no longer know how to act in public anymore. They act r-slurred, neurodivergent, and like no one else exists.
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Homeless people have been around forever but it definitely seems like they're more abundant and worse behaved these days. It's exacerbated by libs' insistence on treating them like urban wildlife, where you ignore them the same as you would a coyote.
The library stuff especially bothers me because it's a perfect example of how fricked up everything has become. They're basically treated like de facto homeless shelters, with social workers on staff and everything. But at the same time there aren't enough actual homeless shelters or people to staff them, and so you can't push back on how insane that is, and as a result nobody uses a library for library shit anymore because they'd rather not deal with multiple homeless people jacking off on the free internet.
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If libraries are treated as defacto homeless shelters, then maybe they need to have the same intoxication rules
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Noooooooooo! You can't expect homeless people to behave themselves and respect the people around them! You have to pretend they aren't there and not make eye contact with them!
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After desegregation society slowly adopted the idea that restricting people's access to public goods for any reason was wrong. The noble idea that people shouldn't be restricted because of their race slowly melted into you can't restrict severely asocial people without being a bigot. They refuse to realize that by giving these asocial people unlimited access to public areas, they are actually restricting these areas from the 99% of society that won't go to a place that allows violent drug addicts, mentally ill racists, or public fetishist.
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I was reading a fascinating post-mortem of the mall as a pillar of American culture. One of the major arguments the author gave for the explosion of malls in the 60s onwards is that their rise coincided with the American legal system, driven on by idealistic naivety of certain civil rights groups, basically eliminating any power the state could have to police any sort of antisocial behavior in public. Faced with parks, libraries, mass transit, and other such shared institutions becoming places that could no longer be enjoyed in relative peace, quiet, and safety, the American public turned to the mall. It became the anchor of a community, featuring places to walk and sit, entertainment venues, and the amenities needed to become a hangout spot, all protected by mall security equipped with the right to eject and exclude antisocial individuals.
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I'm glad I haven't been in a bustle zone library since before the Internet became ubiquitous so I never had to deal with hobos jerking off openly on a computer.
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Libraries around me have actually expanded the services they offer in some cool ways, like access to 3D printing and recording spaces, but idk if it's enough to make me want to deal with piss-covered fent zombies.
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The library around where I live now has cool stuff like that, too. And thankfully almost zero hobos
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Wrong.
Law enforcement has been slacking, so you'll get more dregs in your society acting up. Pretty simple.
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I'd rather read the book physically and get it at the library without spending my check I set aside for Funko Pops to get a rare and expensive book like William Gass' The Tunnel even though I pirate. Academic press books are usually the only “genre” of books I can't find at public libraries but PDFs of them are in abundance on the web. They're great to read. Discuss !bookworms
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Public Libraries took on the duties of the town square/commons, and its in public interest that the town square/commons is publicly controlled instead of divided up among a hundred private interests.
Trans lives matter!
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Tbf libraries are just there to give access to the internet and printers now
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I like my public library. It has a lot of nice events, plus I can read books for free.
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Being clean, quiet and generally not a nuisance is white supremacy, chud. Do better.
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Portland Central Library was one of my favorite places when I was a kid. It was built about a century ago, back when public buildings were supposed to show your city's prestige, so it's got huge marble staircases and cavernous rooms with high ceilings and shelf after shelf of books. Now at least half the people there are homeless and there's sheriff's deputies constantly making the rounds, walking by about every 10 minutes. And they still can't stop people from going into the restroom and pooping on the floor right in front of the potty.
I knew somebody who became a librarian. She was always kind of a leftoid but not in your face about it. When she started going for the library degree I notice she got way more political. This was around the late 2000s and she was already all about Foucault and s and stuff. At the time I thought it just grew out of her own personality, but in hindsight it's obvious that the librarians were just woke way ahead of everyone else. She cared about all these weird issues that nobody else cared about, but around 2014-2016 those issues suddenly became the only thing the left would ever talk about.
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People won't admit it but librarians are on the level of retail wagies. It pays surprisingly well and it's bottlenecked behind degrees, and they definitely select the woke left leaning types to do the job. Organizing the dewey system and checking out books is as hard as stacking shelves and operating a check out, tardwrangling the homeless at the computer is as hard as wrangling the homeless at a fast food store.
I guess that's why it's been able to sort of devolve into a woke thing, they can be really selective on who they bring in because so many people want the job.
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A good librarian is supposed to be really good at helping you with research, and huge corporations will hire them to do that, keep their shit properly archived and indexed, or to do pretty much anything that involves tending to data. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them are as you describe, but beyond just tending to shelves and shit it's a pretty specialized job.
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I don't know what you said, because I've seen another human naked.
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The big library in Seattle is a very impressive building. If I had something similar close to where I live I'd probably use it all the time just for the novelty of it.
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pooping in front of the potty on the floor is asian culture and you are being super hateful saying it's bad
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I remember the exact moment libraries turned to shit: it was when they all bought a bunch of PCs and let people access the internet there. From that moment on, public libraries have been well-staffed goon caves for the homeless.
I pity Zoomers and Milennials never getting to experience going to a nice library back in the day when you couldn't just google shit. I used to write a list of things I was curious about on a scrap of paper all week and then on Saturday, I'd get to go to the library and read about those things.
someone posted this on the reddit thread and it's right:
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When I was quite young I went on the public library computer and cruised the information superhighway straight to playboy.com but I got spooked that someone would see so I geared down and coasted on over to neopets.
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The last time I stepped foot in Houston's library I saw a hobo jacking off to xnxx.com
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At least once a week someone tries watching porn on them in front of everyone . And the staff are all non-confrontational foids so they scuttle around trying to make sure that's what he's -really- doing.
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darn, you must live in the suburbs
in the hood, that shit is 24/7
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Confirmed: https://rdrama.net/post/274333/remote-tribe-hooked-on-porn-after
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The last time I went to a public library I saw a man pooping in a bucket in the parking lot.
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happened
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Just live in a white rural area??
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Hicks don't have libraries because they can't read
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As if inner city folx can
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I regularly went to the public library in order to get a quiet place to study away from home.
The degenerates on the computers are absolute animals. An old guy sitting there watching asian girl fetish smoking videos and getting off on it, another old guy watching videos of half naked kids on youtube (no shit) and the librarians refusing to ban him for it. Kids loitering in the lobby. A few genuine neurodivergent types go and watch videos of bee hives on the computer . There's dedicated shrines to LGBT and anti-racism everywhere, and drag queen story hour isn't a meme it happens at least twice a year. A lot of conservative leaning people avoid taking their kids to the library for that reason.
People still go to the upper floors for the library for study. However, for a good 10+ years at this point nobody gets the books out. You could remove everything but the reference section cut down the floor space 80%, and fire 80% of the staff, and the place would still function the same as a quiet study area. Go take the free computers somewhere else as well, make that a separate government service. In fact, digitize the reference section and seal away the archives in boxes.
The entire place gets by on its reputation of being a "smart person thing", but it's just another bloated public service. The research assistants in the archive section make good money but do literally nothing all day. It absolutely is a useless money sink, but if you suggest privatizing it everyone makes out you're some Luddite because "hurr u don't like education and books".
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That's great and all, but I asked for my burger without cheese.
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Homeless aren't that hard to deal with. When I was growing up, there were homeless on every other street pestering me for money. Now I barely see any at all since it was becoming a problem and the city authorities decided to actually do something about it. They just need to be annoying enough and the local government well funded enough to pay someone to deal with them.
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I'm gonna assume you're an undercover Singaporeanesecel talking about shipping these bums to a chinese wolfram mine with bamboo sticks driven under their toenails.
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you also have to live outside the ninth circuit: https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-01-12/supreme-court-agrees-to-rule-on-homeless-encampments-in-california-and-the-west
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rspod is angrily chudding out and doing their best Steve Sailer impression, while redscarepod has become a bunch of Hamasnik TrueAnon posters
Both are equally shitty in their own way
I'm sick of wingcucks
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Vote Blue no matter who!
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Progressive thinking has turned libraries into hubs for homeless. The library staff deserve what's happening
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The library staff encourage it. Librarians are like the final tier of white foid.
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Well yeah, because it is mostly just that.
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When I moved into my new town, me and the girl went to the local library. Only one weirdo homeless guy there, mumbling to himself among the other patrons; but he seemed to be doing something actually productive on the computer, rather than openly jerking off to PornHub. So that's re-assuring.
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This triggers me because I have a friend who works in a public library, and the stories he tells are just depressing.
Cities basically treat libraries as a community gathering spot, and keeps telling them to do more outreach and events that are completely unrelated to the function of the library. Some library administrators even encourage the staffs to actively bend the rules to accommodate stupid demands. They of course reverse it when they can no longer appease those patrons and pretend they care about the wellbeing of their staff.
Being a public service institution, you can imagine the place is filled by progressive-leaning people in its staff. Seeing them sycophantically cheering at more "innovations" and "caringness" first-hand must have been heck. I will not forget the look he gave me when he told me one of his co-worker's response to the questions "what is the most important thing for a library" was its "welcoming nature."
I hate progressives. I hate them more whenever I hear of their latest antics. Those people are so oblivious of the real world, yet they are so entrenched in the decision-making duty of our cultural institutions.
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The internet has largely replaced the traditional societal role of a library. The only people who still go there are the type of people who are somehow otherwise unable to access the internet.
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Nobody reads anymore so they're just internet cafes for bums. The most frequent user of our local library is a guy who looks and smells like a hobbit.
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I've been to plenty of public libraries and none of them are like this except for the homeless people being degenerates
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Snapshots:
https://old.reddit.com/r/rspod/comments/1d8hmol/what_the_hell_happened_to_public_libraries/:
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ghostarchive.org
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