I'm pooooooooooooblishing
I decided that I'm just gonna publish the fricking thing I've been working on as a fricking web novel. I realized I might never finish it, the fricking bar is fricking insanely low for free online self pub and having even a fricking handful of readers is fricking better motivation to write.
It also frees me from word count constraints, and in all fairness I don't think it's a fricking work that would ever get the fricking time of day from actual publishers.
Any of you do this, b-word? Thinking of uploading to Royal Road.
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Check with people if it's actually good first or needs refining.
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It passed muster with the fricking few people I ran some chapters by, and tbh I like it and it's the fricking farthest I've ever gotten with a fricking work so might as well
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Can you trust them to be honest? It's a problem since people either skim through it and lie to you 'yeah that's great good job' or if they're also artists of some sort will usually get competitive and nitpick about stuff that's not really a big deal. It's difficult to find people who can give actual useful feedback.
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Fair, I trust their opinions though. I spent a fricking long time writing with people who were fricking brutally honest and learned not to hold anything too near my heart. I think my writing is fricking technically competent, my storytelling is fricking def the fricking weak point
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Is this your fantasy idea?
You could send me a snippet
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I'll link u the fricking first chapter when it's up
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plot twist it always needs refining
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And it's always trash
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Fanfic writer
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Being published by one of the big four carries a stamp of legitimacy, especially for film deals, but the money you're left with isn't really worth it these days unless you're a beast who fits their inane, myriad criteria
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Agreed. It's actually a fricking really interesting time to publish and im coming around on self pub. Lots of people actually become successful from self pub now because you can monetize via patreon
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Did you know that the person that writes a pokemon fanfiction called Pokemon Trainer Vicky (Pokemon SI) and Ghost in the City: Cyberpunk G*mer SI, a Ghost in the Shell fanfiction, makes 9,000 dollars a month, keyed r-slur economy
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trad pub is basically dead for all but the biggest names, the people who actually read more than one book a year these days are doing it on webnovel sites and kindle unlimited, especially in speculative fiction. Used to be that if a self published book was big enough, a real publisher would pick it up, but now the big self published titles don't even want that, there's nothing trad pub can offer for someone who's made it in self pub except a smaller cut of the profits
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How does one make it in self pub though?
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Market yourself aggressively, maybe get a Youtube, set up a Ko-Fi or Patreon account. You can do an official
server or subreddit. Unironically shill your stuff on 4chan if you have comic panels
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on kindle unlimited, by getting a lot of people to read your work, it's a subscription service and Amazon pays based on how much your book is read. Insanely hard to grow a following there though, which is why a lot of authors build a following on one of the free webnovel publishing sites, like Royal Road, and then move to KU, their existing popularity allowing them to avoid wallowing in the slop pits.
If an author doesn't move to Kindle Unlimited, or is still releasing on Royal Road as they're pulling earlier sections for KU, then they can make money on Patreon. You've probably heard of it in other contexts but basically it simplifies creating a subscription service. Webnovel authors will have several chapters ahead of what is free and public on their Patreon, usually around 10 but up to 100, and people will subscribe to get those earlier chapters. Probably the biggest example of this, Zogarth, author of an extremely decent at best work that had a ground floor advantage and became extremely popular, rakes in around 65k a month from Patreon alone, and also has his slop on KU which may be even more money. There are tons of other ways to make money with self published online literature but those are the major established ones
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It's actually hilarious tbh, self pub went from a fricking laughing stock for failsons to one of the only fricking places work succeeds based on merit.
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It's absolutely bonkers how much of a fricking turn around self pub made in my lifetime
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if he was writing fanfic he'd just post to ao3, royal road is for neurodivergents and primokino webnovel gigaslop
there is some fanfic on rr but exclusively the most neurodivergent and r-slurred kind
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I wish
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Royal Road is a great site for just writing something, if it's good and within the genres that Royal Road users come to the site for, then it'll get readers without needing to spam advertisements or shit up reddit posts. The farther away you get from what RRoids are looking for, the longer it will take to accumulate readers, but, again assuming that it's somewhat decent, you'll get them eventually. Pick a schedule for chapter releases and stick to it, keep a decent backlog, and you really can't go wrong
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It's fantasy slop, dark fantasy
specifically. It's YA adjacent imo, and I think it will work for online publishing maybe even better than rl
But it could be copium. At least this way I stand a fricking chance of finishing and moving on
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YA adjacent fantaslop is well within the RR genre umbrella, you won't see any problems from that
send a link when it's up, I enjoy reading slop and if it's good I'll drop a rating, maybe it'll motivate me to get back to my RR novel I haven't published a chapter of in three years
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Will do, king
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Is it normal for RR stories to be presented one chapter at a time instead of having the whole manuscript finished and uploaded?
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yup, they're like old timey serials. Typically the book is being written only a few chapters if any ahead of what is being released, and chapter release schedules are usually anywhere from daily to weekly. Typically the more frequent the releases the better, but there are works that go months between chapters and hold some of the top spots on the website.
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What's different about your
beastiality werewolf vampire Romance
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I want to write something where there is fricking very little catharsis, all victories are fricking pyrrhic and being a fricking witch means becoming an awful, ghoulish thing. The fricking setting is fricking actually fantastic and not just medieval england but magic.
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So, medieval Romania setting?
Also, the sharpen award was beyond perfect for your comment.
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Isn't that Conan or gor or some other dimestore goyslop
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Idk i hate fantasy and don't know the fricking genre too well. Think less grimdark and more meiji era
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i gotta actual book waiting for a few reveiwers to look at it then I'm gonna self-flagellate for a while trying to get an actual publisher to look at it, then I'll be right behind you
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The fricking market in leafland is so fricking frickin shitty, the only fricking stuff they will look at is fricking YA by alphabet people. Good luck, I hope you get irl published
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thanks buddy
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I gave you my last gold for luck
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Probably not good...
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mayos need entertainment too snappy be nice
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Just finish it, b-word.
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That's the fricking plan, at least doing something with it will motivate me. I feel having a fricking deadline will make me just write and keep the fricking story moving instead of agonizing over every little thing
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Missed this, but gl sweaty, we all (well, most of us) believe in you
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