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:marseyreading: Fellow Illiterate r-slurs of Drama, is this book reductive commie shitlib criclejerk garbage or is there any level of merit. [Are Prisons Obsolete] :marseymugshot: :marseystarship:

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I tried very hard to give this book at least another star, but really couldn't.

Even though it was packed with interesting, thought-provoking and well-researched data, it managed to frustrate me quite a bit at times.

I found most of the arguments that the author brought up to be weak and not fully developed. When she finally reached what in my opinion should have been the core of this little book (how do we abolish prisons and how do we replace them?), she just quickly listed some (quite problematic) alternatives and went on and on about how to look at the problem in order to find solutions. The thing is, it doesn't look to me like she found any!

Throughout this book I felt what Davis really wanted to abolish was crime itself, not only prison. While I myself (and I hope many other people) have the same desire, it made me take "Are Prisons Obsolete?" less seriously than I could have done otherwise.

Goodreads review that is 1 star.

Edit:

The only section of the book addressing alternatives is a measly 11 pages, and it often gives vague details as to what those alternatives are. Disappointed, I was excited to see the alternative.

Also, heavy lean into pure Marxism and Communism - I mean quite literally she is a long-time member of the Communist Party and one of the first sentences on her Wikipedia page is about how she is a proud Marxist. You see this strong bias everywhere.

Another 1 star review

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For a country that totes itself the 'land of the free,' the United States has a vast prison system...

:!classic#smugsnootalking:

"Heh. You imprison your thieves and violent criminals yet you call yourselves free? Checkmate, America."

...that holds a quarter of the world's prisoners despite being only 5% of the global population.

DESPITE

:#marseyspit: :#marseyemojirofl:

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That's always an inane argument - the opposite can also be true arbitrarily

That the US is the only country to effectively punish its population the extent that it should - it's the leading country on earth in terms of the amount of Serial killers identified - but that is only because US intelligence gathering and police enabled the capture of the serial killers to begin with - other nations like South Africa have absolutely no competent policing authority to identify the concept of serial killers to begin with, there can be 50 serial killers ongoing in the country at this moment, and absolutely nobody would be aware

The fact that South Africa has only a fraction of the prison population in comparison is not a condemnation of the USA, but an indication to the supreme lack of capacity of the nation to punish its criminal elements. The courts are dysfunctional and corrupt, the prisons are too few, overpopulated and inept, and the crimes of the nation go effectively unpunished overall

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This is a very good point.

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It's an r-slured point, the UK has made greater use of crime fighting technologies (used DNA far earlier and more widespread than USA) and didn't get into the quackier of using profiling apart from a short phase, has far more CCTV to draw on, has less legal restraints on the police. Has much more integrated police systems and can concentrate resources far easier unlike the USA with states and a wider geography.

The UK has a lower murder rate and less serial killers.

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I don't disagree my point is shaky, but I was just trying to portray the notion that the continual reddit circlejerk of placing reductive one page graphics or graphs to score a generic anti-burgelrand talking point

I'm aware of the imperfections of america, like the corruption of private prisons bribing judges to basically overcharge prisoners and so on - so I give that it's likely the reality that america does in fact have the likely chance of having an overpopulated prison population due to systemic dysfunction or corruption.

But a global comparison in a vacuum with no other commentary other than raw statistics by the premier reddit shitlib commies have always been reductive to the extreme.

SA for example, I would even go so far as to say are so criminally infested, at all tiers of society, that I'd unironically state that as much as fricking 10% of the entire country needs to be put into prison or correctional-facilities, because of the monumental widespread state of crime. Everything from petty theft, to grand automobile theft, to white-collar crime, to political corruption.

If I'd had some genie give me the wish that all destructive criminals in the nation be placed under immediate magical arrest with sufficient prisons to poof out of the air, I'd wager much it would be as much as 10% of the entire nation, even if it would be a monumental figure of 5 million people, I'm aware of the magnitude of 1 out of every 10 people, our society is just that far gone

In the entire Southern Africa, every nation below the equator (Namibia to Mozambique) I can personally speak to the inadequacy of policing and prisons. In SA alone we literally don't even have adequate prison space, and have little plans to expand our existing ones - our prison population is capped by r-sluration compared to the americans,

and there is so much filthy criminals and degenerates in Zambia, Zimbabwe and Botswana which aught to BE in prison this very moment, that it proves little to have US total prison populations be compared to us at the very least. At least a tenth of all Zimbabweans living are guilty for actual genuine genocide against their fellow africans - but they sure as shit are never going to prison - where does that apply in these comparisons.

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No, don't reply like this, please do another wall of unhinged rant please.

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Yeah, but Americans have more freedom to commit crimes than the bongslave. Americans are also rich, so it makes sense that we'd try to steal from each other.

We have guns and freedom and money: no shit we're gonna behave worse.

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shitlib commie circlejerk which as always correctly identifies societal ill but provides mentallly insane solutions :marseybeanannoyed:

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which as always correctly identifies societal ill

Not even that, the societal ills they identify are always mundane stuff they blow out of proportion like OMG 1% OF THE POPULATION IS IN PRISON :#soysnoo4: and its EVERYTHING

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The only section of the book addressing alternatives is a measly 11 pages, and it often gives vague details as to what those alternatives are

Yeah cause there arent any viable alternatives except corporal punishment and the death penalty

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abolish prisons by punishing every felony with death? it's so crazy it just might work!

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:#marseyevilgrin:

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Can't we just send people to Australia again? This time it can be a dumping ground for all the world

:#marseyflagaustralia:

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This is the real reason we need Musk to setup a Mars colony.

Good luck escaping from Martian prison lmao.

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When she finally

Unsurprising. And opinion discarded. Shit book.

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So like pretty much any non tankie leftist argument all critique no ideology.

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Are Prisons Obsolete? by Angela Y. Davis is a nonfiction book published in 2003

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17216368119602165.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17216368120911279.webp

IDK but there's room for at least two or three more teeth in her mouth, Michael Strahan looking butt

Also, :blackwomanspeaking:

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She hates prisons because the bars there are closer together than her teeth :marseystarship:

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I don't know why but I find her oddly attractive.

:#marseywood:

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Reddit downmarseys the post critical of the book so yea, most likely it's bad

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that's wat activated my bullshit radar

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Public caneing should replace prison for all but the worst crimes like murder and r*pe.

1: it prevents criminals from being grouped up together and sharing crime techniques.

2: it's probably more ethical. Short term pain over years to decades of your life stolen.

3: it's cheaper

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:#chiobuchadtalking:

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Prisons should be replaced with corrective male feminism, if you know what I mean

:#shmoopy:

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If it's anything like the usual calls for prison abolishment from leftists, most likely it just proposed vague alternatives to prison like rehabilitation. In practice it probably calls for something like the Scandinavian prison system. But as usual I have to imagine the book doesn't go into detail about how to handle violent psychopaths, murderers and religious fanatics too dangerous to live in a functional society. The Scandinavian prison systems seemingly don't do enough to discourage violent crime seeing as how Sweden is currently the mass shooting capital of Western Europe right now.

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I haven't read it but Angela :marseyretard5: Davis is a communist :marseydarkcomrade: terrorist :marseybinladen: on the FBI's most wanted list for murdering cops (among other things) before :marseyskellington: fleeing to cuba

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Angela Davis was a communist and a fifth columnist, and She favored abolishing prisons in the US while simping for countries with political prisoners like Cuba and the USSR *sips tea*

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That list only has Norwegian Wood by murakami, fake and straight

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As long as r-slurs like this exist i will carry a gun.

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If nothing else, it feels like an odd pick. Why in a list of world literature should the token American book be a non-fiction about the American prison system? It's taking up a slot that could have gone to Britney Spears: The Woman in Me.

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