The Kaiser was bad at political strategy but he had fantastic generals. Their biggest mistake was not paying attention to Russian capabilities and severely underestimating their time to mobilization. It wasn't super effective but Russia has 250,000 specifically trained troops positioned east of Prussia for this event. The rest of Russians mobilization was a mess, but it was still faster than the 900 hours estimated for the Schlieffen-Moltke plan to work.
The Germans should have invested entirely in sea mines and submarines instead of Dreadnoughts, because the mines in the Dardanelles crippled the Brits at Gallipoli.
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>dreadnoughts > subs
Yeah, but the dreadnoughts were years in the making, and submarines were a risky new tech that people weren't entirely sure how to best use. Hindsight 20/20 and all that jazz.
But it really didn't help with them building dreadnoughts since it justified the Royal Navy building more, which would've otherwise been nixed by their politicians.
I'm not sure if landmines would've been too effective since that just keeps an enemy force away but doesn't really project power where you want.
Their biggest mistake was building that navy. Without it. Germany and UK would most likely ended up in alliance. Queen victoria was kaisers grandma. Kaiser took power in 88( ) and victoria died in 01.
UK and germany deal was considered multiple times. But it was killed by exsistance of german navy. What more. Theory behind that navy was even more retarted. Idea was to build strongest navy in planet then ask nicely for UK to give them some african colonies.
Somehow germany was suprised when UK moved closer with french.
Without that navy. Germany would have kept UK out of war. And possibily even got them to join their side.
And its not like UK didnt tell them straight they dont like their naval arms race. They informed germany thats small baltic navy is fine and dandy. But anything past that is threat.
Ludendorff and Hindenburg were fantastic generals. French and Hague were soy. Joffre created more problems than he fixed. Foch won with a gamble. Russia lost. Austria sucked. Italy sucked. Romania sucked. Turkey sucked. America got asked to stop sending troops because they were the source of the Spanish Flu.
Russia really did position a quarter million troops on its western borders, which alone could be argued that they are to blame for the entire war.
Blaming Russia for the entirety of the war is a take, an r-slured take but a take.
The whole Schlieffen plan that Germany's "brilliant" generals came up and stuck with was completely unworkable. It made assumptions of the far wing moving as quickly as the interior on the hook down into France. The only reason it worked as well as it did was incompetence in Frances entire doctrine.
The Schlieffen-Moltke hybrid plan relied on rolling several "natural 20s" along the way, and almost all of them didn't come to fruition. The gamble failed.
✅ Germany would deploy efficiently with clockwork precision
❌ Belgium would let them walk through and wouldn't slow down their timetable
❌ France wouldn't notice
❌ England wouldn't honor its treaties
❌ Russia would take 900 hours to mobilize
✅ Germany had secretly developed siege canons which could defeat Belgian forts, as a backup, and they worked
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Its amazing how stupid kaiser was. Its testament for german army that they lasted so long.
But even they were arogant as frick. They didnt conduct war at operational level.
Would it been so hard to park that shiny navy off the coast of french before UK enters into war.
Maybe sink troop carrier or two.
But nah. Just ship all those elite colonial troops into french. Line them up. Then we fight.
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The Kaiser was bad at political strategy but he had fantastic generals. Their biggest mistake was not paying attention to Russian capabilities and severely underestimating their time to mobilization. It wasn't super effective but Russia has 250,000 specifically trained troops positioned east of Prussia for this event. The rest of Russians mobilization was a mess, but it was still faster than the 900 hours estimated for the Schlieffen-Moltke plan to work.
The Germans should have invested entirely in sea mines and submarines instead of Dreadnoughts, because the mines in the Dardanelles crippled the Brits at Gallipoli.
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!historychads save us from meming too hard. This should become a serious thread because @BIPOCcute twinkr-slur might happen to read books.
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Every take to shit on the bongs is a good take
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Yeah, but the dreadnoughts were years in the making, and submarines were a risky new tech that people weren't entirely sure how to best use. Hindsight 20/20 and all that jazz.
But it really didn't help with them building dreadnoughts since it justified the Royal Navy building more, which would've otherwise been nixed by their politicians.
I'm not sure if landmines would've been too effective since that just keeps an enemy force away but doesn't really project power where you want.
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Their biggest mistake was building that navy. Without it. Germany and UK would most likely ended up in alliance. Queen victoria was kaisers grandma. Kaiser took power in 88( ) and victoria died in 01.
UK and germany deal was considered multiple times. But it was killed by exsistance of german navy. What more. Theory behind that navy was even more retarted. Idea was to build strongest navy in planet then ask nicely for UK to give them some african colonies.
Somehow germany was suprised when UK moved closer with french.
Without that navy. Germany would have kept UK out of war. And possibily even got them to join their side.
And its not like UK didnt tell them straight they dont like their naval arms race. They informed germany thats small baltic navy is fine and dandy. But anything past that is threat.
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Basically this whole comment is wrong LMAO
Stick to posting coombait
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Ludendorff and Hindenburg were fantastic generals. French and Hague were soy. Joffre created more problems than he fixed. Foch won with a gamble. Russia lost. Austria sucked. Italy sucked. Romania sucked. Turkey sucked. America got asked to stop sending troops because they were the source of the Spanish Flu.
Russia really did position a quarter million troops on its western borders, which alone could be argued that they are to blame for the entire war.
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Blaming Russia for the entirety of the war is a take, an r-slured take but a take.
The whole Schlieffen plan that Germany's "brilliant" generals came up and stuck with was completely unworkable. It made assumptions of the far wing moving as quickly as the interior on the hook down into France. The only reason it worked as well as it did was incompetence in Frances entire doctrine.
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The Schlieffen-Moltke hybrid plan relied on rolling several "natural 20s" along the way, and almost all of them didn't come to fruition. The gamble failed.
✅ Germany would deploy efficiently with clockwork precision
❌ Belgium would let them walk through and wouldn't slow down their timetable
❌ France wouldn't notice
❌ England wouldn't honor its treaties
❌ Russia would take 900 hours to mobilize
✅ Germany had secretly developed siege canons which could defeat Belgian forts, as a backup, and they worked
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