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A livestreamer accidentally streamed Hamas :marseynoyouoccupy: going :marseysal2: into a hospital :marseyloss: showing :marseypoint2: that they use this hospital :marseyloss: as a headquarters

https://old.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/18hsyca/hamas_just_got_caught_going_into_nasser_gaza

								

								

Nothing :marseynothingburger: really :marseythinkorino2: dramatic in the video :marseyprincesszeldabotw: but you can reference this post when the IDF inevitably blows up this hospital :marseyloss: for the views

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!chuds just wait less than a week when the !jidf blow up the hospital. !nonchuds you probably need to check :marseycheckem2: out this hospital :marseyloss: in person :marseychonkerfoid: because you don't believe :marseyparappa: the zionist lies.

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Except they didn't? That was a random butt figure someone came up with on Twitter, it was never an official number, as the NYT investigation has proven. The NYT also found that the rocket was indeed Israeli.

Holy shit the amount of layers of rslurration here. Literally everyone credible has confirmed the rocket was from Gaza and that journos got it straight from the Gazan authorities, many even apologized for uncritically parroting these sources and now caveat it with "according to x Gazan ministry". It's not even worth arguing with you further considering you're clearly sticking your head in the sand to prevent seeing anything you dislike and parroting rslurred third world telegram accounts verbatim.

There's no real democracy in Israel

There is though.

or the occupied territories

Not Israel, most of them never will be.

And as for freedom of speech, when you can get thrown in jail for posting a Palestinian flag or tweeting that you want the conflict to end, you don't have freedom of speech.

You can get jailed for cheering massacres of civilians, not for wanting the conflict to end. This has nothing to do with complete freedom to spread information that Israelis enjoy, making it harder for the government to lie than for totalitarian murder cults.

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>Holy shit the amount of layers of rslurration here. Literally everyone credible has confirmed the rocket was from Gaza and that journos got it straight from the Gazan authorities, many even apologized for uncritically parroting these sources and now caveat it with "according to x Gazan ministry". It's not even worth arguing with you further considering you're clearly sticking your head in the sand to prevent seeing anything you dislike and parroting rslurred third world telegram accounts verbatim.

The NYT offered a retraction. Didn't know, my bad. Still doesn't change the fact that Israel is an untrustworthy party, given their track record and conduct in this conflict.

>There is though.

There isn't. Unless you classify democracy as two-tiered society where the rights of the majority group and their religion are enshrined and privileged in law and where the minority are actively discriminated at best or outright unrepresented in politics at worst.

>You can get jailed for cheering massacres of civilians, not for wanting the conflict to end. This has nothing to do with complete freedom to spread information that Israelis enjoy, making it harder for the government to lie than for totalitarian murder cults.

BIPOC, did you even read the articles? People are getting jailed, interrogated and outright fired for showing the slightest bit of support for Palestinian victims, posting a Palestinian flag on social media or even criticizing the government. There's no freedom of speech, only political repression. This is also the same fricking government that was trying to pass their insane judicial reforms as their PM is under several investigations for corruption. Israel is straight up descending into unironic fascism with these far right lunatics.

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Still doesn't change the fact that Israel is an untrustworthy party, given their track record and conduct in this conflict.

I think it's fair to not trust Israel but you're genuinely a 50 IQ subhuman if you don't trust Israel and simultaneously trust Hamas.

There isn't. Unless you classify democracy as two-tiered society where the rights of the majority group and their religion are enshrined and privileged in law and where the minority are actively discriminated at best or outright unrepresented in politics at worst.

Democracy is when the citizens democratically elect their leaders. Israel has this. This is the definition of a democracy. Occupied Germans being unable to vote in American elections did not make America not a democracy.

People are getting jailed, interrogated and outright fired for showing the slightest bit of support for Palestinian victims, posting a Palestinian flag on social media

People were jailed for cheering the massacre of their countrymen. This is what posting the Palestinian flag on October 7 is. They were not jailed for expressing sympathy or criticizing the government, you are literally making this up. In the UK you can't silently pray near abortion clinics, similarly nobody serious claims the UK doesn't have freedom of speech.

There's no freedom of speech, only political repression

People can and do yell about how oppressed the Palestinians are. You clearly know nothing about the country. Just like anywhere in the West, you can whistleblow and complain to your heart's content, provided you pass the very low bar of not dancing on the graves of massacred innocents.

This is also the same fricking government that was trying to pass their insane judicial reforms as their PM is under several investigations for corruption.

Further showing you know nothing about Israel, the war is being conducted by an emergency centrist unity coalition and the far right elements of the government are not allowed to pass laws without approval from the center.

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>I think it's fair to not trust Israel but you're genuinely a 50 IQ subhuman if you don't trust Israel and simultaneously trust Hamas.

I don't take everything Hamas says at face value, no.

>Democracy is when the citizens democratically elect their leaders. Israel has this. This is the definition of a democracy. Occupied Germans being unable to vote in AmeriKKKan elections did not make AmeriKKKa not a democracy.

Apartheid regimes cannot, by definition, be democracies. Israel has a two-tiered society. This is a fact. Jewish supremacy is enshrined in law. Just because you have a couple token Arabs in some positions of power does not change the fact the non-Jewish population in Israel proper is treated as second class citizens and the people in the occupied territories live under an illegal, military occupation with martial law and no representation in government. It's as simple as that.

When you have shit like this https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/31/17623978/israel-jewish-nation-state-law-bill-explained-apartheid-netanyahu-democracy coupled with the hundreds of illegal settlements and hundreds of thousands of illegal settlers in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, all pretense of a "vibrant, multicultural, multi-religious democratic state" is dead.

>People were jailed for cheering the massacre of their countrymen. This is what posting the Palestinian flag on October 7 is. They were not jailed for expressing sympathy or criticizing the government, you are literally making this up.

Ok, so you didn't read the articles. Thanks for letting me know, Zionist troll.

>Further showing you know nothing about Israel, the war is being conducted by an emergency centrist unity coalition and the far right elements of the government are not allowed to pass laws without approval from the center.

You're talking about the war cabinet, not the actual government as it was elected and was operating up until Oct. 7th. Are you denying that the attempts to reform the judicial system by Likud and co. and Bibi's corruption investigations were a figment of our collective imagination or what? :marseyhmm:

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So yeah, eat shit and die, hasbara troll.

Thanks for letting me know, Zionist troll.

Lmao you're such a Redditor. BAD FAITH TROLL :soysnooseethetalking:

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I don't take everything Hamas says at face value, no.

Oh ok so you agree anyone reasonable has no idea what the actual casualties are.

Jewish supremacy is enshrined in law. Just because you have a couple token Arabs in some positions of power does not change the fact the non-Jewish population in Israel proper is treated as second class citizens

Arab Israelis have equal civil rights as Jewish Israelis. The nation state law establishes that one of the primary goals of Israel is to be a Jewish homeland and representative of the Jewish people which is by no means at all uncommon in democracies.

coupled with the hundreds of illegal settlements and hundreds of thousands of illegal settlers in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, all pretense of a "vibrant, multicultural, multi-religious democratic state" is dead.

You're stringing together entirely unrelated things you have 0 understanding of and then just jumping to the conclusion you want. East Jerusalem settlement consists almost entirely of people legally purchasing legal titles that were confiscated by Jordan 48-67 and evicting squatters that refuse to pay even token rent, after decades long court battles. The West Bank is not part of Israel.

You're talking about the war cabinet, not the actual government as it was elected and was operating up until Oct. 7th. Are you denying that the attempts to reform the judicial system by Likud and co. and Bibi's corruption investigations were a figment of our collective imagination or what?

What does a powerless former coalition have to do with your argument that Israel is currently being governed by authoritarians? You may have had an argument that Israel had an anti free speech government 2 months ago, this is not the case now.

Ok, so you didn't read the articles

I read these articles before you even knew they existed.

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This is a really long way of saying you don't frick.

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look im gunna have 2 ask u 2 keep ur giant dumps in the potty not in my replys 😷😷😷

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