:marseyunhappymerchant: Lies :marseymanysuchcases:; Claims No Christians Present in Gaza, Justifies Slaughtering Children and :marseynun:

https://x.com/lbc/status/1737015437966086404

Church? There are no Churches in Gaza so I don't know where the report is talking about” “There are no Christians in Gaza….”. “Well I don't know… I didn't see the report, I don't know”.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17030034159478445.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17030034164111605.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17030034167099407.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17030034169915364.webp

https://x.com/BaderRifat/status/1736837819589410891

Reminder to all you :marseywingcuck: :marseyhitlerjew: that they'd be happy to kill you too if you ever left the gooncave in your parent's basement.

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Muslim growth seems like a special fixation of secularists scared to discover they're not really the end of history. The thought of a largely Muslim Europe in 2070 causes far less trouble for my worldview then the thought of a largely atheist Europe in 2070. If God is real, I should expect atheism to be a transient period of spiritual vacuity, not an incidental part of a successful, complete liberal rationalist ideology that can sustain itself forever. The latter would be a real threat, in a way that "another faith has temporarily become more popular than mine" could never be.

The majority of Muslims worldwide are not in anachronistic sandshit tribes or tinpot theocracies. I'm not pretending it's always peaceful, but it doesn't look like the neocon caricature either. There are also examples of Christian growth in majority Muslim environments like Indonesia.

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Muslim growth seems like a special fixation of secularists scared to discover they're not really the end of history.

No, it's genuinely terrifying to see backwards supremacist savages become the majority. It's basic self preservation. I wouldn't mind and would in fact prefer a more Christian Western world.

The thought of a largely Muslim Europe in 2070 causes far less trouble for my worldview then the thought of a largely atheist Europe in 2070.

If God is real, I should expect atheism to be a transient period of spiritual vacuity, not an incidental part of a successful, complete liberal rationalist ideology that can sustain itself forever.

Why in particular atheism? Surely this logic applies to every wrong religion?

The majority of Muslims worldwide are not in anachronistic sandshit tribes or tinpot theocracies.

No but even the ones that aren't are backwards shitholes that oppress religious and ethnic minorities. Let's take a look where officially (never mind unofficial persecution) the death penalty for leaving Islam is in effect:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17030509102570236.webp

Don't forget of course that the Muslim world is constantly in flux so yesterday's monarchy or military dictatorship is today's theocratic dictatorship.

Now let's look at the worst places in the world to be a Christian:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1703050910847846.webp

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2021/january/christian-persecution-2021-countries-open-doors-watch-list.html

Do you see a pattern?

There are also examples of Christian growth in majority Muslim environments like Indonesia.

Your one example is where Christianity is a prestige religion because of its association with the wealthy West. So this route is also out the window if you leave Europe to the Muslims.

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I don't deny that there are serious difficulties for Christians (and others) living in more heavily Muslim regions. I can understand why you worry about the expansion of Islam, the clash of civilizations, etc. But this began because I said it's not all about winning for me. I don't want to use the "best" tactics or have the "strongest" country if it comes at the expense of weakening or betraying the Christian faith. Most of Christianity's spiritual weakness today stems from a past form of "winning" that eventually merged with secular power and became tangled in things that weren't of God. People lost their faith because the church became simply one cog of the Western nation-state, and whenever the faith contradicted some secular goal it was the faith that lost. Chuds will observe this easily when the issue is the church's failure to stop no-fault divorce or the LGBT movement, but they're not as likely to notice how the strong WWII-era "Christian" state mass-bombing civilian populations had itself betrayed the faith.

Obviously I would most like to see a Christian West. But for me that wouldn't mean having the strongest empire. It would mean creating model societies that other people want to emulate because they actually work. That can only come as an outgrowth of strong faith. And I see no germ of a future Christian West in either leftoid utopian politics or in flag-waving boomercon kitsch. Rebuilding will take a long time.

Why in particular atheism? Surely this logic applies to every wrong religion?

Do you think the average Christian is more likely to slip and lose faith, or slip and become a Muslim? One is a lot more of a natural regression at present, and that's the one we're afraid of. No Christian stays up at night worrying that Islam might be true. However, the world can sometimes feel godless.

Secularists often think religion is simply a part of our history we can leave behind, and that in the future enlightened humans will instead find meaning in (wordswordswords). If this were to occur it wouldn't prove atheism true, but it would begin to make religious arguments kind of irrelevant. A lot of the ways to win converts depend on the idea that humans need God. If people share a certain need, if they're empty and calling out for something, I can offer Christ to them. But if everyone were somehow actually not-fake happy without God, what could I offer them besides some workshopped apologia with no emotional resonance?

So I guess I'll say that a miserable atheist West in 2070 might just be fertile ground for the faith to rise again. If liberalism somehow managed to break free of religion and stably sustain itself forever, that would be more of a difficulty.


We clearly have different worldviews and values. If you're not a Christian I wouldn't expect you to see value in a situation that leaves you worse off. For the Christoid :marseybikecuck: we simply have to remember that God's kingdom is not of this world, and those who fight hardest to dominate the world inevitably risk their own souls.

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