Redactor0naori/oppa
Darklands shill, do not engage
11mo ago#5606064
spent 0 currency on pings
It's one of the big surprises of the war for me. The Israelis really believed in the hospital bullshit before the war started and I assumed they must have had reasons to. But apparently they were just believing their own propaganda that was intended to influence Americans. When the guys who you're bribing or torturing for information figure out what you want to hear, that's what you're going to hear.
Apparently now they're just blowing up the hospitals to destroy the evidence that they were wrong. Or they're just chimping out because they're frustrated. Or they're just blowing up everything.
I mean it works for some shit, if the poor bastard whose teeth you're pulling out with pliers knows the information you want. But the Israelis seem to not have great intel on Palestinians based on Palestinians having been driven underground, now all remaining insurgents are skilled in tradecraft and know how to conceal their operations.
It doesn't matter if they had OBL resurrected at the hospital, nobody wants to see babies pulled off of incubators. If you wanted to check the hospital, take an infantry battalion and sweep it, but take a surgical battalion and generators and food and water to assist the civilians, even if they fricking hate you. Even if they did it to you, because it makes them look worse. The PR shit is worth more than the military objective.
How is Hamas getting Iranian weapons, Saegheh Tandems, Ammo, etc? A blockade that keeps food out but lets weapons in is pretty useless.
There's also two elements operating of Gazans who want to make it look like Israel is ethnically cleansing Palestinians and Isrealis that actually do want to ethnically cleanse Palestinians. Israelis may be falling into their own trap.
This is bad for all of us, because if the west turns on Israel, Arab nations may feel emboldened to act. Then Israel will go Massada with the up to 400 warheads they're sitting on.
I believe nothing, not what Israel says, not what Palestinians say, not what the press says. Everyone is either too emotionally involved or too distant to provide a unbiased analysis of what the frick is happening. Netanyahu could eat a Palestinian child on live TV and plenty of supporters would go “You actually believe that? This is Iranian propaganda” conversely they could have a r*pe factory in Gaza uncovered and Palestinian supporters would go “You really believe the fake tears of the women hired to be there?”
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
It's one of the big surprises of the war for me. The Israelis really believed in the hospital bullshit before the war started and I assumed they must have had reasons to. But apparently they were just believing their own propaganda that was intended to influence Americans. When the guys who you're bribing or torturing for information figure out what you want to hear, that's what you're going to hear.
Apparently now they're just blowing up the hospitals to destroy the evidence that they were wrong. Or they're just chimping out because they're frustrated. Or they're just blowing up everything.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
One of the big reasons torture doesn't work.
I mean it works for some shit, if the poor bastard whose teeth you're pulling out with pliers knows the information you want. But the Israelis seem to not have great intel on Palestinians based on Palestinians having been driven underground, now all remaining insurgents are skilled in tradecraft and know how to conceal their operations.
It doesn't matter if they had OBL resurrected at the hospital, nobody wants to see babies pulled off of incubators. If you wanted to check the hospital, take an infantry battalion and sweep it, but take a surgical battalion and generators and food and water to assist the civilians, even if they fricking hate you. Even if they did it to you, because it makes them look worse. The PR shit is worth more than the military objective.
How is Hamas getting Iranian weapons, Saegheh Tandems, Ammo, etc? A blockade that keeps food out but lets weapons in is pretty useless.
There's also two elements operating of Gazans who want to make it look like Israel is ethnically cleansing Palestinians and Isrealis that actually do want to ethnically cleanse Palestinians. Israelis may be falling into their own trap.
This is bad for all of us, because if the west turns on Israel, Arab nations may feel emboldened to act. Then Israel will go Massada with the up to 400 warheads they're sitting on.
I believe nothing, not what Israel says, not what Palestinians say, not what the press says. Everyone is either too emotionally involved or too distant to provide a unbiased analysis of what the frick is happening. Netanyahu could eat a Palestinian child on live TV and plenty of supporters would go “You actually believe that? This is Iranian propaganda” conversely they could have a r*pe factory in Gaza uncovered and Palestinian supporters would go “You really believe the fake tears of the women hired to be there?”
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Article: "It remains an open question."
Redactor: "So it's conclusive that the hospital was wholesome chungus and the IDF are behaving like cartoon villains."
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
The Israelis have had way more than enough time to show some evidence by now. There's no reason why they would have to keep it secret.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
No good reason that we know of. The US has confirmed it.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context