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911roofer he/him Always a wallflower, never a wall  5mo ago (reddit.com) 254 thread views #275919

Palestinians literally can't understand peace

https://old.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1dd3ug1/cmv_palestinians_were_never_going_to_get_a_state/ 

								

								

									
									

									
								

							

							

								
									
								
							

							

								
	

							

						

						
						

							

								
							

						

					

					
						

							
							
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Peaceful is when decades of bus bombings.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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That's how they say hello in their culture.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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[–]Ghast_Hunter [score hidden] 9 hours ago 
People are gonna hate hearing this but at its current rate Palestine is not going to become a country and most Palestinians are going to die within the next 20 years of climate change disasters. Riding off of sympathy and political posturing doesn't get you far and the whole world is gaslamping Palestinians into thinking committing violence and rejecting peace/deals for their own country will legitimately pay off.
I really wish they would've taken one of the deals they were offered and built up their land instead of playing victim for 80 years but you can't change the past.
For the most part this comment makes sense, but that doom-saying about climate change is absolutely wild and out of place.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Weird how Israel is at peace with Egypt and Jordon despite them going to war with Israel and losing multiple times and say what you want about Syria and Iraq but there hasn't been much going on between them for years and they ain't done shit for Palestinoids either. Israel even captured, in war time, and then returned a hundred times more land from Egypt than the combined size of Gaza and west bank so I wonder what about Palestinoids is different to these other countries. Anyone know what Palestinoids might be doing differently to the other guys????

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Syria is still in the midst of a decade long civil war. Iraq isn't much better. They're in absolutely no shape to do anything to Israel.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Cope. Lebanon is on the brink of collapse but Hezbollah still has time and money to try kill some Jews despite the very real risk that it could literally result in, at best, their destruction and, at worst, a loss of control over Lebanon. Yemen is in the middle of a civil war but Houthis still shooting at boats in "support of Palestine".

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Absolutely. The mere existence of Hezbollah, a rouge militant organization, inside Lebanon is proof Lebanon is a failed state. Hezbollah is directly funded by Iran though. So not really a good comparison b

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Israel even captured, in war time, and then returned a hundred times more land from Egypt than the combined size of Gaza and west bank
You act like this was some kind of generosity.  :marseyeyeroll:  The Egyptians had crossed the canal and they could do it again in the future.  The Israelis didn't want to go through another catastrophic defeat like that again so they accepted peace.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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And what was Egypt's motive to accept long-term peace after fighting 4 wars in 25 years? Could it have anything to do with the fact that in 1973 the IDF got within 100km of Cairo?

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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No, not at all.  They already knew they needed to make peace in 1967.  Sadat's entire plan for 1973 was to win a local victory in the Sinai that would persuade the Israelis that it wasn't worth the cost for them to hold it.  His plan worked and he got what he wanted at Camp David.  (This isn't something that Israelis dispute btw.  We have lots of evidence of what he was thinking then.)

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Sadat always wanted to get kicked out of the Arab League, lose the support of the Soviet Union, and be assassinated by the Islamic Jihad, but he had to lose another war first for his 4d chess to succeed.
Arabcel cope is hilarious. just like how all the Arabic wikipedia pages say that Israel lost every war.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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:marseyfacepalm:
Like I said, this isn't something where there's a debate with two sides and Israelis are on the other side.  We have vast amounts of evidence for what Sadat's war aims in 1973 were.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Even better, this medically and mentally unfit reject isn't even an arab, he just has suck a shit life it must be those sneaky joooos , lol

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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palestoids are being political footballs very succesfully tyvm :marseyindignant:

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Do NOT google the Lavon Affair!
Snapshots:
https://old.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1dd3ug1/cmv_palestinians_were_never_going_to_get_a_state/:

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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They first said they were willing to negotiate in 1974, long before Israel admitted that Palestinians even exist.  If your position is "we won't make peace with them because they don't exist" you can't claim you're the innocent ones.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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but yet nobody is willing to make peace with superstraights.  curious.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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