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r/therewasanattempt To humanize war criminals

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Probably shouldn't have killed all those kids, ey?

What evidence do you have that this guy killed kids? Are you really that simplistic that you think every individual committed atrocities? Heck not even every member of hamas has done that.

He was in the IDF, enough said.

gosh it must be lovely to live in such a simplistic world where you can totally dehumanize someone like that with zero evidence. There were even nazi's that didn't kill people. Heck some nazi soldiers even tried to kill hitler. But go ahead and pass judgement on everyone...i'm sure that will solve this 5000 year old conflict.

I will go ahead and judge them all thanks not that I need your permission. Scum the fricking lot of them and if you're defending them then you are too!

:marseyjanny: jannied. :wojaknofunallowed:


Won't somebody please think of the genociders?!

So... while it's easy to think like that... we need to remember that every member of the IDF is just as radically brainwashed as the members of Hamas, or any other terrorist organization... these are not all evil people. They were also children with hopes and dreams. You are allowed to feel bad for the human beings who are being lied to about their cause, and who are committing war crimes in the name of something that ultimately doesn't exist. It's all super fricked up and very sad. It's a profound waste of life.

No frick you and frick every single person who has ever served in the idf. You are all pieces of shit.


He murdered civilians yet was the victim?

REMEMBER TO VOTE BLUE OR RED SO THEY CAN CONTINUE

Democracy is the biggest scam in human history, either you choose red or blue real ruler is 🐏. Also democracy make deep state easy to replace over night or in some days, this would be bug trouble for them where there's no election or leader changing system like in iran and north Korea.

Biggest problem i see with our republic is that you can buy the people who makes laws

The President is for sale! :marseystocksupdown:


What?you can't sleep after the murder, r*pe, torture??? Imagine how your victims felt...

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Don't fricking both sides a genocide bro. Hamas did not start this.

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It is against the rules of TWAA to support any crimes against humanity, including Apartheid.

Jannies working overtime.


Service is mandatory there, not just a draft , as is many countries. Draft ended in the US in 1973

So was it in nazi germeny

Is that a question, or a statement?

Conscripts are not immune from committing war crimes and crimes against humanity

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So let me get this straight. When the US does this in Vietnam and Middle East, they are honourable veterans. When it's anyone else troops, they are war criminals. Got it.

They're all war criminals. Left-leaning people that criticize the IDF don't praise the US military.

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There is no hipocrisy, you're making up people that don't exist. And you're German. Your country literally supplies 30% of Israel's foreign-sourced weapons. Your government has already chosen a side and dedicated resources towards it, despite your more "pressing matters".

Germans can't keep themselves away from a good genocide :marseyhitler:

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That seems to be some commie conspiracy theory, not even in mentioned on Wikipedia

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Funnily enough this very topic has it's own wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas

The facts are that Israel didn't create Hamas, as Islamist groups always existed in Palestine.

But they did indeed fund and assist Hamas to defeat the PLO and it's child the PA, which were secular orgs with much more international legitimacy than Hamas. Israel obviously doesn't like Hamas, but they hate the idea of a legitimate Palestinian state even more.

They let Qatar give Hamas millions for this very purpose as recently as 10 years ago: https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

According to various reports, Netanyahu made a similar point at a Likud faction meeting in early 2019, when he was quoted as saying that those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza, because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Propping up militant groups to destabilize governments you don't like is a standard tactic employed by countries around the world. Israel is no exception.

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Go read the sources wikipedia cites.. and the sources of those sources. Israel gave money to a charity to build mosques in Gaza. The charity later became Hamas.

What is written there in the wikipedia is wrong

>But they did indeed fund and assist Hamas to defeat the PLO and it's child the PA

This is a lie. Israel never funded or armed Hamas, nor was it responsible for it's creation.

also Mendhi Hasan is a snake and intentionally conflates Israel funding "islamic" movements, which his source says. With "Islamist" movements, his words.

and then r-slurred internet commies can say "israel funded hamas" just like that. @screamkwinn

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US intelligence literally admits to it, this is sad cope

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SOURCE????

You are the most intellectually lazy person I've ever agued with online. Transgender spez may have r-slurred views but at least he attempts to defend them. You just parrot talking points you clearly never thought through or looked into, both incapable and uninterested in being persuasive.

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Thanks for finally providing sources.

First I'd like to point out that the only person claiming Israel literally founded hamas is an ex-diplomant known for unhinged views on Israel so into the trash it goes.

Nobody even makes the claim, that you stated previously, that Israel armed Hamas.

You are still r-slurred for making those claims.

Anyways

https://www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2002/06/18/Analysis-Hamas-history-tied-to-Israel/UPI-82721024445587/

After looking into it. This is the the original source of the quotes of USA intelligence guys.

While it admit it's convincing it purposefully conflates "hamas" the terrorist organization with the charity it emerged from.

According to ICT papers, Hamas was legally registered in Israel in 1978 by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the movement's spiritual leader, as an Islamic Association by the name Al-Mujamma al Islami, which widened its base of supporters and sympathizers by religious propaganda and social work.

Al-Mujamma al Islami was registered as a charity! Hamas didn't exist. This is the author directly lying to you. The "they aided Hamas directly" Tony Cordesman quote also seems to refer to the charity.

One U.S. intelligence source who asked not to be named said that not only was Hamas being funded as a "counterweight" to the PLO, Israeli aid had another purpose: "To help identify and channel towards Israeli agents Hamas members who were dangerous terrorists."

This is after Hamas became Hamas. And I can believe this.

In conclusion:

YOU ARE R-SLURRED IF YOU YOU THINK ISRAEL FOUNDED AND ARMED HAMAS

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BIPOC why would they support an islamist "charity" over literally any other fully knowing they sprouted from mb??

you are r-slurred if you still think Israel would rather have a secular leftoid resistance

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It was "Islamic" not "Islamist" and it was a literal charity. I'm sure they gave to other charities too, they just didn't turn into terror organizations so it wasn't leaked.

>you are r-slurred if you still think Israel would rather have a secular leftoid resistance

right now or back then?

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everyone knows wikisneedia is the best source for literally anything political

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Islamist organizations are so rare in the middle east that it's just common sense that this one wouldn't have been formed without foreign interference from the actors who had least to gain and most to lose from such an organization existing.

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what? they're only common now bc of foreign interference and decades of endless war

socialism was v popular in the 60s and 70s

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The Muslim Brotherhood from which Hamas emerged existed 20 years before Israel was even founded.

The popularity of socialism was really good IMO because anything is better than Islamism but the retreat of Socialism in the middle east is just because it doesn't really appeal to the masses here quite like shouting allahu wakbar and blowing up a bus. For whatever reason.

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yes, it came from the capy brotherhood, but it's creation was supported by israel+US. these things are not mutually exclusive

and you're a legit r-slur if you think the lards, known for coups around the world and ousting leftoids, would just let socialism flourish in such a geopolitically important region

this was cold war era when they used all kinds of tactics to fight socialism literally everywhere

just bc the lards have cash they got from raping thirdies, does not mean they make smart decisions. the majority of terror groups in the middle east were supported by the west at their inception

maybe fat westoids will believe the middle east has always been this way, but again you're trying this with the wrong person

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Even Fatah has pretty much embraced Islam now, that's just what people want.

You can't deny that Islamist movements are just incredibly popular here. There are like 5 in the Gaza strip alone! They pop up like mushrooms after the rain.

If anything the rise of Socialism was due to foreign influence from the USSR and declined along with it.

I know it's hard to admit that your people just have a tendency to like Islam and support terrorists, but you can't blame everything that's bad in the middle east on America/Israel!

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wow another illiterate jew :marseyshook: your people are literally on record and by your own admission supporting terrorists

death cult is popular bc it's the only option they feel they have, and better than laying down and let the jews r*pe you. get a s*x doll you freak

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According to the article you linked, Bibi's support for Hamas was limited to:

A) Not confiscating money going to Hamas from the Saudis

B) allowing tens of thousands of workers from Gaza

C) not bombing Gaza after Hamas sends "incendiary balloons and rocket fire"

Which one of these should he not have done? Do you actually oppose these policies?

>death cult is popular bc it's the only option they feel they have, and better than laying down and let the jews r*pe you. get a s*x doll you freak

IF HAMAS DIDN'T ATTACK ON OCTOBER 7TH THE DEATH TOLL IN GAZA WOULD BE 0.

They had the option of simply not attacking and allowing the relationship to continue to improve and the blockade continue to loosen.

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