Yandex reports [1] that renaming their Chromium-based browser's GPU process name to "chrome.exe" decreases GPU process crashes 5x and memory consumption by 8% when AMD drivers are used. Why? Driver authors hardcode chrome.exe and optimize for Chrome.😠
— BrendanEich (@BrendanEich) March 17, 2023
[1] https://t.co/0rQC22N3Co
Report from Yandex says their chromium-based browser's GPU process is optimized when it is named "chrome.exe"
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holy based
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one day MS will advance to doing the same thing if the browser detects that you are a dalit
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What if that is already happening and that’s why Indians act like that on the internet?
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Browser devs are as bad as webshits
!codecels u know it's true
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This is the driver devs' fault tho.
But EEs also write dogshit code. Look at printers.
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It is webshittery that drove the Browser to the point where they need GPU optimization and therefore webshittery is at fault
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Imagine writing a set of instructions for a computer to do something instead of doing it yourself haha lol #ownedlibtard
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If you rename your game executable they will often perform significantly worse or not work at all. There even were games that had to use names of other games so they would properly work.
Thats because opengl is so high level that tweaking the driver here and there can significantly improve fps, and fps in new games is what gpu companies compete on , so amd/ nvidia go out of their way to put game specific hacks into their huge driver blobs.
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When I was in college I had a job doing tech support for students, it was like 95% removing viruses. We used Malwarebytes as a first pass that would usually get rid of pretty much everything. Some viruses would detect the running process though and immediately terminate it. You could get around it by renaming the executable lol.
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Ark, the dinosaur game, is named ShooterGame in so many files because that is the default name when you make a game in UnrealEngine4.
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Epic Games moment 🗿
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And it's AIDS. Just tell the gayme devs to learn to OPTIMIZE or ship smaller textures. Graphics have been good enough since at least morrowind came
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Clearly all anyone would ever need
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It was very brave of them to center the plot around a crack head giving you missions from his drug den.
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They'll down vote you for telling the truth. Realism in games per fps peaked at black ops 1
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Some games now are so realist that I have trouble "seeing" things in them like items or enemies. Every just kind blends into the background
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so basically game codecels are dogshit at optimizing and so AMD and Nvidia have to move heaven and earth to keep their shit functional.
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mostly yes, but its partially also due to the opengl api sucking and not giving the developer enough finegrained control
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Yup
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but i use a chromebook and there's no exe files
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Wine Is Not an Emulator
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"Executable" is harmful and depreciated terminology. They're called apps now. Not application, just app.
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it's called "task" now
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So is this proving that other programs could be optimized to run better but they purposefully don't? !codecels
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Or they're too lazy to perform any sort of "is this chrome based?" test on processes
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this, the optimization is probably specific to how chrome renders the page. it's not that they hate other browsers, it just wouldn't work on them
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All other browsers - bar two - work exactly the same as chrome, because they are just chrome reskins.
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two? i thought it was all down to firefox and chrome now, unless you count the skeleton of IE that edge keeps in it's closet
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if management is petty and incompetent sure. on a side note i know windows has some shitty system for how menu icons are prioritized. when i looked into the problem I saw google drive, onedrive, dropbox all fighting for priority like
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I know imma linux shill, but og my sweet god that sounds like aids to have to deal with in any manner
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It is still incredible to me “download off a website and install” is the main method of installing software on windows.
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and always should be
"app stores" are for cute twinks and zoomers
and if you're based you can just use winget to get chocolatey to get basically any software worth getting
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“app stores” are a good idea and best called “software repositories”
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if you need to get another man's premission to share your software you're a cuckold
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neighbor you can't even see the source code of your OS.
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You can't even see a woman you 4 eyes glasses wearing dork
why don't you go sudo apt install a fricking social life you complete fricking loser
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Sounds like you need a software suppository
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They tried to fix/change this and everyone fricking hated it
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Browsing the /r/Plex thread saying they're dropping old versions of Windows (Old Win10 and below) it sure seems like Windows users would prefer to never change anything ever.
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This doesn't matter as much as you think it does because software is signed
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So it’s the negative parts of centralization and the negative parts of decentralization?
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How so?
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Microsoft can be the janny of apps. So if you do no-no things MS can revoke your cert. In this sense there is still a gatekeeper.
Discovery seems to be the trendy criticism of decentralization at the moment. Ex: searching for a specific app that is trustworthy app is far more difficult without a centralized repository.
My personal pet peeve is the lack of a centralized updates, it's common to have disparate "software updaters" instead of a single unified one.
This is all assuming users actually sign software (It doesn't seem that common, considering there's a price) and pay attention to the "this is an unknown publisher warning" in the first place.
I support things like WinGet and Chocolatey, as mentioned below, for the future of application management on Windows of course.
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Microsoft doesn't control signing? The main thing windows does is tell you about the certificate.
Having a centralized repo isn't without downsides. A lot of things get out of date pretty quick but you can't update from an external source without breaking 10 other things, due to insane dependency trees.
From a non-developer perspective, every program being a standalone with no dependencies is a better UX.
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i don't have to ask permission from daddy to install software
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Same. It makes everything a slog.
Related, wtf can't apple just make a linux version of itunes already? I hate having to keep a windows laptop around just to reformat shit
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itunes? Are you an iPod guy?
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No, I just buy 2nd hand stuff, repair it and resell it whenever I see a good chance too.
I actually had to take apart 3 laptops I got to fix 1 of them to install windows on it to wipe the ipad I got
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Can't you still boot windows from a usb?
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Yea, but that's slow and a bit of a pain
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God zoomers are using linux now every day we fall farther from God.
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Well basically theres a huge list of names that each have their specific driver hacks to squeeze out some performance. Gpu companies will create new hacks for you if you are an important software vendor! If you really wanted you could create a programm that renames your exe and benchmarks it under each name/hack and then ship with the best.
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same shit as always
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This has been the case for over 25 years.
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no, it's AMD stepping in and unfricking some of google's shit code with driver hacks, but it needs to know when to implement those hacks
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Gaymd bros not like this
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lmfao that marsey
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Good morning I hate tech companies
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I'm so happy in the Congo1yr ago #3814292 Edited None spent 0 currency on pingsSolution: let go of earthly JavaScript desires and embrace lynx.
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You know how architects stopped putting ornaments on buildings? Imagine if webshittery went out of style and sites became so minimal lynx was actually viable
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I'm so happy in the Congonot-dua-lipa 1yr ago #3814410 Edited None spent 0 currency on pingsCheck out Gemini. Its a simplified alternative to http, deliberately creating a whole ecosystem that is legible in text browsers.
https://gemini.circumlunar.space/
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Gemini is based. I met some nice people there, it’s extremely self-selecting.
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Is it supposed to be news that driver makers optimize their shit for specific programs? They basically advertise the fact that they put out a new “game-ready driver” for every big vidya that comes out.
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based amdchads, cringe yandexcels
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Snapshots:
archive.org
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archive.ph (click to archive)
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