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Why is phone dev such aids?

I have literally spent more time trying to push my app to my phone and dealing with worthless strag frick error messages (Literally the only message the phone would give me the user, from the ui, was "apk failed to install", fricking cancer)

And god forbid there be some way ti just force push the fricking thing onto the phone certs and sigs be darned

Every cellphone made after 04 was a mistake

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!codecels is it just me or is every computing platform after laptops cancer?

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I seem like a gigaboomer to my friends because I barely know how to frickin use my shitty 2018 android phone.

frick phones I am not a phonecel I will never be a tabletcel I will never be a mobilestrag

I use BIG BULKY BEIGE DESKTOP PCs like terry intended

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I use BIG BULKY BEIGE DESKTOP PCs like terry intended

Based.

I still use a phone from 2014, I refuse to buy a new one. Fricking things haven't improved a darn in terms of responsiveness, boot time or UX but they need 4 - 16 times the ram.

Aids, trucking aids

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FRICKING JEWGLE AND EVERY OTHER COMPANY THAT MAKES APPS KEEP UPDATING THEM AND ADDING MORE USELESS JS BLOAT SO MY PHONE IS NOW MUCH """SLOWER""" THAN IT WAS YEARS AGO EVEN THOUGH IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME

:#marseyraging:

(also my phone model isn't supported by LineageOS and I'm too lazy to install a new AOSP rom and try to remove all the garbage considering I only use my phone like 20 minutes a day at most)

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Are you r-slurred? Phones have absolutely gotten faster boot times since 2014.

2014 Androids were using shitty EMMC, UFS has become extremely fast.

There's more memory now but OEMs like Samsung have actually reduced system memory on the newest S series models.

More memory is always better, so it's incredibly stupid.

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Phones have absolutely gotten faster boot times since 2014

Maybe

2014 Androids were using shitty EMMC, UFS has become extremely fast.

I did not know that was a thing

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The storage interface on phones is legitimately impressive, Apple moreso, but Android OEMs are very good too.

Apple implemented NVME storage on the iPhone 6s in 2015 (went up to 128GB years before Android too). It used the same proprietary memory controller the Macbook line used for Apple's NVME solution. Nobody had a faster controller until Samsung LSI fabbed 970 Pro NVME drive.

Samsung LSI started selling UFS in 2015. It was really only Samsung mobile and some Meizu devices in 2015 that used it, but from 2016 onwards every Android flagship had UFS. UFS 4 is nearly as fast as Apple's current NVME solution.

Performance isn't an issue for phones. Your average flagship is more powerful than most people's work laptops.

I agree that Android development is a pain in the butt, but the hardware platform isn't the issue.

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I agree that Android development is a pain in the butt, but the hardware platform isn't the issue.

The day I can run Ubuntu on any random phone is the day I love phones tbh

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>any random phone

I'm sure you know this, but there's been quite a few Ubuntu touch builds for phones.

https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/?pk_vid=fa97308fd1336d3716798626971bf91b

Samsung actually had Linux on Dex a few years ago. It was awesome. You docked your phone with its type c port (Samsung is a full USB 3.1 with video out over display port alt mode) ran Dex and could spin up Linux containers.

It had plenty of compute for it too. Qualcomm flagship SoCs lag behind Apple on CPU performance (often by a few years) but the Snapdragon 845 and 855 platforms it ran on still had very fast CPUs. The highest end Samsung phones had 12GB of memory then, so it ran perfectly well.

They deprecated it with Android 10. It was such an amazing power user feature. If you've really skipped out on phones since 2014 you've missed a ton of cool hardware.

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They deprecated it with Android 10. It was such an amazing power user feature.

Lame

If you've really skipped out on phones since 2014 you've missed a ton of fetch hardware.

Yea I probably have and finger print readers do seem neat. Any recommendations for what my next phone should be? I also plan on keeping this one for 8+ years

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RIP Terry

:!#marseykneel::marseysoypointglow:

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I have to make stuff for Tizen smart tvs and it is pain. The majority of customer issues we have had since I started this job involve the stupid smart TVs which aren't even the main focus of our product.

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I have to make stuff for Tizen smart tvs and it is pain.

:#marseydepressed:

Smart Tvs are a whole new level of Cancer, esp once they EoL. And the start times are outrageous

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I have to make stuff for Tizen smart tvs and it is pain.

Is it still (if it ever was) all in pure C? Last I heard someone talk about Tizen dev—like, 2015—it involved mapping shared memory at specific addresses and exchanging pointers through files :marseyyikes:

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So actually what I have to work with is kind of the opposite. They have an option for webapps and whoever came before me decided to make it in raw html/js. We also have to support tvs going back to like the 2016 release of Tizen so the version of js they support is very old at this point.

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That sounds like heck. There's so many shitty 3rd world TVs out there. Do they actually put high priorities on these issues?

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Luckily we only have to support Samsung Tizen smart TVs for now but marketing/the product owner wants us to support more soon.

And yeah they put high priority on these issues because we make large multi-year contracts with a few customers. So if a customer bought a few hundred smart tvs we cant just tell them to get different hardware.

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I have to make stuff for Tizen smart tvs

:marseyl#:

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maybe ur just bad

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What are the computing platforms after laptop?

I can only think of cloud and mobile, maybe GPU and FPGA if you stretch. Computing platform is term I don't really get

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I can only think of cloud and mobile

And both are cancer

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I'm not near enough of a codecel to write my own OS but I would love to get a FPGA and write my own CPU ISA as lifetime hobby project for an OS lmao

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Try working on RISC-V, it's a good foundation for you to build off of, and it's actually a pretty neat design.

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!codecels I managed to push the apk to my phone AND NOW THE FRICKING THING JUST BLACK SCREENS AND CRASHES

Can't even read the fricking logs because they're at the end of 10,000+ line text box and ANDROID DOESN'T HAVE A "JUMP TO BOTTOM" FEATURE

has cocking watches and certs and sigs and SE fricking linux but UX? DARN UX TO HECK! that's googles motto! Frick the user, right up the butt!

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Calm down bro its just a phone

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Exactly, so why is it so fricking locked down?!

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It sounds like you’re just r-slurred.

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>Frick the user, right up the butt!

Ur fault for using non-libre software

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you read the logs in your normal dev environment via adb

sounds like you dont know what youre doing tbh

:#marseyshrug:

it must be hard being bad at your job. my condolences

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you read the logs in your normal dev environment via adb

But why? I hold the testing device in my hot little hands, why can't it jsut give em an error message? Why must I enable dev mode (bullshit how they hide this btw), hook up a usb and fiddle frick with that?

sounds like you dont know what youre doing tbh

First time I've compiled an apk since android 4.2. Android was still gay back then tho

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Backendcels stay winning

:#marseyboomer:

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The year of the Linux desktop is coming

:#marseyitsoverwereback:

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I should start posting on rDrama from a Raspberry Pi

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There should be special badges for using the most obscure operating systems and user agents when logging in

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This is the polar opposite of when Lowtax banned someone in the mid 2000s for being the single user logging on thru webTV

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Just make an autism badge, same thing.

I use Arch btw

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/16798009725396564.webp

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Been rocking linux for almost 10 years now

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Backend bestend

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Skill issue :marseyl:

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I hate android, I'd use iOS if I didn't hate it more. If only Ubuntu touch was available on hardware faster than a calculator.

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iOS is pretty good

Blackberry 10 was the pinnacle of mobile OS’s though

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I had a blackberry priv and fricking loved it. It was the superior phone for shitposting with the draw out keyboard that also functioned as a touch pad.

Shit was so cash, if only blackberry didn't spend so much time tossing salad.

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iOS is pretty good

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.webp

Blackberry 10 was the pinnacle of mobile OS’s though

https://media.giphy.com/media/26tknCqiJrBQG6bxC/giphy.webp

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There are 12 versions of android

WHY ARE TERHE 32 FRICKING SDK LEVELS? WHY AM I EXPECTED TO KNOW WHAT THE FRICK KITKAT OR JELLY BEAN IS?

WHY CAN'T I JUST COMPILE A ELF AND SHIP THAT?!

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Phones are gay just make web apps

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webapps r double gay

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Mobile Dev sucks so that we can have a career worse than web Dev.


:#marseytwerking:

:marseycoin::marseycoin::marseycoin:
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about sums up google

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stay away from native and delevop it as chromium based webapp. boom development twice as fast.

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!codecel

JAVASHITTER DOWNMARSEY THE CHROMECEL UR HTML+JS DOC DOESN'T NEED SHIP A FRICKING BROWSER

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everyone uses chrome anyway. chromium based webapp doesnt mean you bundle its own browser wit hte application. you just need chrome installed and the application is basically just a webpage with different ui.

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everyone uses chrome anyway.

lies!

chromium based webapp doesnt mean you bundle its own browser wit hte application. you just need chrome installed and the application is basically just a webpage with different ui.

Still fricking cancer! Learn C or c++ if ur a b-word and write something that doesn't piss away cpu cycles

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its all about development speed you pleb, you can basically test it completely on your desktop and be sure it works on every device immediatly. Have fun signing and certifying your software for several appstores repeatedly and debug the same shit on a dozen different sdk version while i just swap a file on my http webserver and be done with it.

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Have fun signing and certifying your software for several appstores repeatedly

lol no, frick stragstores u want my shit u can pull it off github

if ur os is too gay to handle that than get a real computer

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then you lose half of the market money wise(apple strags have the moneys) and you will be tortured by the android ecosystem which is more "diverse" than the average canadian metropole , you canuck.

go webapp or go home. im serious its the only say way to develop customer facing apps.

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skill issue

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Nice post, bro! I posted it to twitter.

Why is phone dev such aids? https://rdrama.net/h/slackernews/post/158046/why-is-phone-dev-such-aids #gay #code #web

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#gay

:#marseyhomofascist::!#marseyrobot:

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Wom*n only don't need br**sts if they don't want to feed babies the milk they need.

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