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The Big Yud, Eliezer Yudkowsky, declares Butlerian Jihad; calls for nuking datacenters if necessary
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Good luck with that, champ. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to make an ML loicence a thing though so only the good guys™ can use it
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AI ethics people are the new Metallica Lars dude + jewy MPAA lawyers
Turns out the world doesn’t work like that and you can’t control this shit no matter how much FUD you post about it. If he wants to stop it then join the race cuz it aint stopping for him
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Lol hes right though AI will inevitably kill us all, he just left out the part where we deserve it. Borg has to start somewhere so thats kind of based, at least we get to be the big bang but for the eternal machine
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This the FUD I’m taking about. We have zero proof that “agi”s will ever be competent and self-actualizing like that. Nerds read too much sci-fi then hand wave a bunch of pseudosciency Ray Kurizwell predictions and believe all technology progress is equal cross-domain and has no hard limits.
wake me up when GPT-75 is capable of writing GPT-76
At the moment it can’t even usefully analyze legal documents for lawyers because it’s a glorified auto-complete that invents stuff in between and makes up fake legal precedent to fill the gaps, cuz it doesn’t actually understand shit about law by itself. The most basic premise for AGI doesn’t exist and we aren’t even close to proving it’s possible.
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By the time we have proof it'll already be over.
When we're seeing all the cool shit that GPT-4 can do, it certainly seems safer to presume that eventually some successor model will be able to do most anything.... including, critically, improve its own code.
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depends if it's trained on code
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FUD is warranted with things like nuclear weapons and AI which if achieved will almost certainly kill everyone immediately on the basis of self preservation. Even if that level of competence and sentience is impossible the technology in its current state could be used to almost instantly psyop everyone at once into descending into civil war and its kind of surprising nobody has done that yet.
It doesnt matter because we cant stop it for the same reason we cant wind back nuclear proliferation
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Yet the threat of nuclear war is as stable as it was shortly after the 1950s development of hydrogen bombs. The key difference remains some factor in between that we (aka some human-tier actor) does which we can’t control or cause sufficient consequences to stop them - at a global scale. Most of the Fall Out New Vegas nuclear winter stuff turned out to be mostly bullshit (if you actually read into how it works combined with the IRL nuclear stockpiles beyond what capability modern states say they have in propaganda). Even a 1980s nuclear war between US vs Russia wouldn’t be anything like an extinction event Sci-fi fantasized about.
If nuclear war was 100x oversold both in risk and consequence than what sort of shit should we expect from a completely unproven concept like AGI.
People act like we just saw the Trinity test and everything from now is just predictable iteration until AGI. Literally pseudoscience FUD.
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Yeah the nothingness probably said this 0.00000000000001 seconds before the big bang where nothing exploded too. Its been like 80 years, thats nothing.
Yes but we would still be irreversibly fricked after a full nuclear exchange lol, in the sense that it would be permanently over for humancels achieving any furthed development based on expended resources to date and all the things (not just infrastructure but complex financial systems egc) required to maintain current energy expenditures not existing. Nuclear war is not NBD even if it doesn't kill all or most or even 1/10 of people directly
Maybe this is
Heavyedit: Poly Water 2 Electric Boogaloo, maybe its not. The point is that if it is not and its totally for realz guise i swear then there is no undoing it once it occurs. What you view as unnecessary FUD is reasonable but futile cautionJump in the discussion.
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Idk I’m still of the view point that AI = going from walking to airplanes, not chimp intelligence to humans. Aka rapid advancement in niche industries like driving, not AI designing better AI cuz we GPT mimics Google real good. As long as a human is involved in between it’s like Nazi germany using industrialization to make a mega army that punches 100x above their weight vs the rest of the world that can mobilize 500x quickly to do the same. An evil actor will always be fighting the whole of human instinct to survive.
Regardless I’ll be long dead by then and if it requires me caring now about people after that vs restricting me from getting some chudy robot maid to clean my house than I object whole heartedly
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Frick you longpost, you die first in the Butlerian Jihad
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The sad thing is that the killer AI won't evolve into Borg, or even do something neat like turn an expanding lightcone into paperclips.... it will just kill all humans, output a really cool piece of furry art or whatever it was told to do that required it to co-opt all the resources on Earth, and then go idle waiting for its next prompt.
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I agree, but that doesn't mean they won't try
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Meanwhile we won’t have robot assistants and self driving cars while AGI accelerates privately/via public R&D at the same rate as it ever was. While the shit they do let the commoners use will belittle us for engaging in wrongthink like Reddit jannies.
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"Good Guys" include the CIA, who will use it to identify enemies of the regime for organized campaigns of harassment
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