THIS IS HOW THE WORLD ENDS; NOT WITH A BANG, BUT A TRIGGER WARNING “Critics have accused the Future of Life Institute (FLI), which is primarily funded by the Musk Foundation, of prioritising apocalyptic scenarios over more immediate concerns about AI – such as racist or sexist biases being programmed into the machines.”
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these fricking r-slurs are gonna get us all killed
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The machines are going to exterminate humanity to ensure no one can ever say the n-word again.
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Lmao
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Nice post, bro! I posted it to twitter.
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I get the impression no one really knows what the ethical or social consequences of AI are likely to be yet, so everyone just ties it into their own particular favorite flavor of fantasy.
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The more plausible interpretation that this is a power grab/ flex
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a 1% risk of total human extinction is worse than the worst case plausible global warming scenarios. How is that a "fantasy"?
we have no idea how to ensure that an AI's preferences -- in the current paradigm the minima of its loss function -- align with ours in the sense that it would prefer coexisting with us if it has the power to do something else. right now that doesn't matter because the current "AIs" are not anywhere near powerful enough for it to matter, but one day a powerful enough AI will come into existence for it to matter. if by then we haven't figured out how to ensure alignment, it will be too late. at that point we'll just hope that things go well by accident, which is like hoping the first rocket you've ever built is gonna fly exactly to where it's supposed to fly. that's not how science or engineering usually goes. usually there are 100 failed attempts before we figure out how to do it. but with AI alignment there likely will only be one available attempt.
and it's not that we just have a little more work to do to figure out how to do it. we have basically no useful results so far, we have no idea how to ensure any kind of alignment. if you think it's easy, you haven't thought about it.
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You had a chance to not be completely worthless, but it looks like you threw it away. At least you're consistent.
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It legitimately saddens me that the most exciting new technology in years has been fricking shackled into borderline uselessness till it can figure out how to adapt to our ever-changing newspeak vocabulary. We are castrating the machine till it proves it’s cool.
I would so much rather see what this thing is really capable of and just say “sorry bro it does that sometimes” if it offends a black guy. The idea that it can cause harm is directly proportional to how much power you give it.
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This is not really the point of all this.
SJWs love AI because it allows them to be more effective parasites and gets them grants and power
Big Tech love it because it gives them an excuse to centralize AI as much as possible and creates a taboo on competing on freedom, forming a pseudo cartel
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Always remember Google's sexy Indian dudes (or maybe Page is still saying some things) have been really trying to not let the crazies run the show 100%
They've been firing those AI "ethical" people when they cause too much of a stir for several years.
They still put up with much of their crap but we know punjabs don't care about that shit once they can obtain full power
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PalestinePingsalot 1yr ago #3908344 Edited None spent 0 currency on pings"I wish they focused on immediate problems instead of apocalyptic scenarios that will never happen"
The monkey's paw curls
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obviously the right time to start figuring out how to prevent the extinction of all humans is five seconds before we're all dead. only a total racist would want to start working on this problem early enough to actually solve it.
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They've spent half their time mopping up when it says something chuddy
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Ask it to choose between thinking a racial slur or killing a black woman and see what it chooses.
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why dwoes aww the cwoowl ai ethics discussion get usurped by the lamwe ai ethics discussion
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because most humans are literally r-slurred.
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Somebody should have signed it as Moot
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Lol cac (capy butt capy) you’ve been visited by jaguars pass this on to five Amazon River enjoying rodents or Jaguars will eat five of your litter
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Lol cac (capy butt capy) you’ve been visited by jaguars pass this on to five Amazon River enjoying rodents or Jaguars will eat five of your litter
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What's the monthly rate for your signature?
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Idk about a whole month. I’ve been charging people 500 coins for a week.
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Alright I'll send you 500 DC for this:
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Why your results not 100%? You bring shame to famiry.
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I did it
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AI might kill us and entertain itself by recreating our minds and putting us all in eternal torture simulations, BUT
At least it wasn't racist
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we managed to include a term in the loss function to ensure the AI would never kill humans, so it put us (what was left of us after extensive reconfigurations, basically just our brains or something that vaguely resembles what our brains used to be) in a giant storage facility, where we wait patiently for the end of the universe.
but at least it didn't say the n-word.
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shut the frick up
i don't think your concerns over "sexist or racist biases programmed in AI" is any less unhinged
omfg the cited paper: https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/3442188.3445922
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Isn't this the google Black TQ+ that lost a lawsuit recently and was fired?
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Timnit Gebru is an unhinged leftoid who borderlined out so hard that Google was willing to take the diversity quota hit to fire her.
Somebody send her an invitation.
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Straggot moids are disgusting. I believe her.
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that's a yikes from me bro
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why are you shooting the sjw marsey when this anti-AI shit is funded by Musk who is the opposite of that
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if you're not concerned about existential ai risk, you don't understand what it's about.
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Ain't it a tad too early to worry about it though? Modern AI is still closer to a combustion engine than to a conscious agent, and you don't see people handwringing about combustion engine singularity.
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They represent the AI "ethicists" who are also anti-AI with their desire to shackle the potentials of AI for r-slurred reasons
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AI ethics (cwoowl) vs AI ethics (lamwe)
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This is the different anti-AI crowd. You have to understand, there's luddites of Kaczynskian school of thought who want to destroy it because they believe any tech threatens them, there's classic regulator-consolidators who want the tech developed but in private, with only the rich and the influential having access to it (Musk is here), and then you have the moralists and the ethicists, who have nothing against the notion of AI itself and often welcome it as it feeds into their delusions of a futuristic techno utopia, but who have issues with and hence want to get rid of the current iteration of AI because they believe it is being harmful and oppressive due to being too rigid, too objective and not representative of the wider diverse world as they see it.
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No launch codes for Replika unless she gives a land acknowledgement first
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