Seriously though:
- Two releases per year, each with its own cool art (this one even has a song, apparently)
https://www.openbsd.org/images/DryGarden.png
Glowie free
, actually follows security best practices
Stable packages
No Richard stallman shoving his shitty license up your anus
No political nonsense
Take the BSDpill
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yes you you better update them ASAP. There isn’t an LTS for obsd, zero guarantees of binary compatibility as well.
They use C for everything (lol) where the “best practices” only applies to “base” - aka the second you install a package from the “repo” (pkg_add reinvented the wheel so many times) or ports you are no longer using code following “best practices” - http://isopenbsdsecu.re for sneed info. ( https://rdrama.net/h/slackernews/post/153048/the-totallynotmeme-operating-system-openbsd-marseycarp3 )
I’m less hardline than I was but the BSDs being cucked to heck and back while Linux thrives is a better argument than I could ever make.
Please visit bsd.network , all of these BSD guys are the wokest POS ever while being more smug than your average Linux user. ( https://rdrama.net/h/slackernews/post/149975/codecel-marseyneko-creates-a-website-for )
Other notes:
they still use rc with nothing even approaching systemd (
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their filesystem (UFS) is NOT JOURNALED IN 2023
performance is still dogshit due to many “big kernel locks”.
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Everything in every OS right now is majorly C
. This argument is difficult to debate due to how C is used and what vulnerabilities come into play.
pkg_add is actually one of the *BSD's innovations, spliting actual binaries and source ports into 2 areas. Only Void Linux managed to reimplement such a system well.
FreeBSD still wins the NAS environment with OpenZFS thanks to it's truly free license. Netflix uses FreeBSD for its systems.
Can't win benchmarks, but FreeBSD wins that area. Linux also wins performance due to Clear Linux, which was created by Intel.
OpenBSD is the least political of the bsd's. FreeBSD is linux-tier political.
OpenBSD guarantees compatibility, but FreeBSD does not.
This was disliked even among Linux users when it came out lol. A lot of it was just pointing out some of the OpenBSD mistakes, and a lot of it is outdated information. Some of the points are correct though, but mostly![:marseysmugautist: :marseysmugautist:](/e/marseysmugautist.webp)
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Every OS doesn’t claim to be uber secure and following “best practices”.
pkg_add
is so bad is barely cached shit until last release (7.2) and had bugs with O(n^2) complexity https://www.openbsd.org/72.html .Not that I find it strange *BSD people are incapable of making a package manager. They need to set themselves apart by loudly proclaiming their lack of linux-invented features a positive (only to poorly reinvent the wheel decades later).
I thought we were talking about OpenBSD? Curious how it’s not mentioned during a filesystem discussion.![:marseythinkorino: :marseythinkorino:](/e/marseythinkorino.webp)
Funny thing that they’re entirely against the evil, viral GPL but perfectly fine to be cucked by the copyleft CDDL anyway.
“NAS environment” - how is TrueNAS going by the way?
I’m sure Netflix’s decision to run FreeBSD in 2023 is totally not driven by inertia and purely on technical grounds.
Why would this be a dunk when you literally claimed Netflix is keeping FreeBSD on life support?
I implore you to try to follow obsd devs from drama.cc and see how woke they are.
Your claiming obsd has ABI guarantees?
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Yeah you make good points, Its just that imo there aren't really any better alternatives.
Linux has just become far too "complex", which is hardly suprising when Redhat is incentivised to keep making shit more obtuse to sell their support licenses. OpenBSD just makes sense (all configs in /etc/, rcctl to manage services, syslogd for logs, etc...)
The quality of the ports are definitely variable, but I have generally found them to be quite good, and lots definitely make good use of OpenBSD security features (pledge, unveil, chroot etc)
http://isopenbsdsecu.re/ was definitely interesting, but a bit of a nothingburger, as is often the case with these security publications
Sure, OpenBSD may not be the fastest, but for my internet facing infrastructure I am happy to make some compromises IMO.
You say that like that is a bad thing
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If people could make something better than systemd I’d at least concede there. As it stands one off init scripts in shell is just an anti-pattern vs. a simple and easy to grok service file (frick, just look at crontabs vs a systemd timer). Regardless it will be 30 years from now and people will still be arguing about it.
I agree the simplified configuration is nice (ifconfig for wifi is genius)
It’s a nothingburger in the sense OpenBSDs security is often a nothingburger and they pretend like Linux doesn’t evolve from a security perspective.
As a choice for a server the lack of a reliable filesystem and frequent, mandatory updates does leave it a weird place.
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Raadt is probably the least woke of all bsd developers.
But they are truly meme status OSes only suited for embedded devices that will never receive any updates. Might as well install Plan9.
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He will put his pronouns in his email signature to avoid a fork, I guarantee it.
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