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I just don't like the concept of there being 'unforgivable sins' because they become, in some weird way, a sort of natural law that overrides rational thought.
And that's great if you're in the business of controlling dialogue and controlling what people can say, but otherwise it's less good.
It creates an environment where people - as illustrated in this thread - for some reason seem to turn their brains off and go 'he said the bad word ergo he is a bad person and must be removed from the dialogue immediately'
And that's really fricking dangerous and toxic. The fact that supposedly intelligent people are unable to make an allowance for a person that's literally mentally ill and might well be hallucinating and still say BUT HE SAID THE WORD HE SAID THE WORD NOOOOOO EJECT HIM IMMEDIATELY... That's actually a bit scary, that their thinking becomes sort of overridden like that.
That sort of 'override power' on peoples thinking is fundamentally problematic and should be challenged, IMHO.
If you allow your population to be controlled by these special words your enemies will use it against you.
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It's the idea that normal people aren't capable of understanding context, that we shouldn't have the ability to decide in the moment to bend the guidelines because we're not enlightened enough. How can you exalt democracy and talk about the values of liberalism while believing the average person isn't capable of making decent decisions on the interpersonal level. It's a deeply authoritarian mindset that we need caretakers to not hurt ourselves when the average American has shown themselves to be more than understanding of the nuances of the world, it would just require these people to touch grass to learn that.
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This is where you have to ask your self whether America is different because it has a self-selected population that literally chose to migrate there because of what it stood for , much like Australia and Canada.
I've always felt that these places had a very different vibe for that reason.
Land of the Free and the home of the Brave maybe has a lot more truth to it than people imagine.
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The generations whose generation-defining story features, as a core plot point, the idea that words (specifically, a name) should not be feared, has decided that there are words which people should never even mention, nor speak even if alone. On the other hand, said story is about magic, so maybe it's not that surprising that certain real-life words are treated as if they are spells...
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Both this concept and the opposite one permeate literature and feature over and over and over across literal generations going right back to the dawn of proverbs etc.
I can't remember specifically but I'm pretty sure that the stories in 1001 nights feature both perspectives.
Shit, isn't it even in The 5th Element?
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