Python is removing the GIL.
— Mark Tenenholtz (@marktenenholtz) July 31, 2023
The GIL (Global Interpreter Lock) prevents you from running multi-threaded code.
That makes ML code, in particular, really hard to write in pure Python.
Here's what it takes to remove the GIL:
GILcels can't stop taking Ls
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The only thing slower than the python dev cycle is the language itself lmao
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I love the huge list of work required to make objects on the heap thread-safe, I'm sure some codecel is super excited to do all that to implement what is considered basic functionality in every statically typed language.
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MANY. SUCH. CASES.
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I dont even know what a type is let alone what the type of my variables is
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Why on God's green earth would you need to multithread python
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ML
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isnt anything in python that's computationally intense including ML just a wrapper around a real language for the most part?
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These neighbors are using python to orchestrate so much hardware that even the wrappers must be parallelized
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Couldn't you just not though
Even Go is a better option
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For some reason, all of machine learning, all of data science, all of academia is vendor locked to python. Maybe Go would be better, but everyone uses python, so you have to use python.
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Academics are phenomenally lazy, it's true.
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the people writing them are spreadsheet jerks and python is a stretch for them
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Kind of. Optimisation of the computation graph may still happen in Python, before compiling into C++.
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Oh shit yeah makes sense
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google, where python is one of their core day-1 languages, spent years trying to do this and ultimately failed.
https://peps.python.org/pep-3146/
dunno if that's a 2/3 issue (another clusterfrickof years of effort to fix initial design flaws), but given the quality of FBs open source efforts, I'm not like thinking they're gonna be the ones to get this over the finish line.
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Google devs (r-slurs) vs Hyperborean Microsoft sexy Indian dude dev
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naw it's meta throwing the money.
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How will I be able to afford Phoenix Down without gil?
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Python programmers will destroy their scripting language instead of learning a real one lmfao
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(Real)
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it's almost exclusively snek writers that do this too, you would never hear a nodejs or ruby dev claiming their language is good for anything but shell scripts
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If only Julia will ever take off (it won't)
I started to dislike using python outside of ML or numpy shit
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Snapshots:
archive.org
ghostarchive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
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