Lemmy devs ban programming.dev owner from their GitHub repo for 7 days over so-called "inflammatory comments" 
. Programming.dev owner makes a post about him being banned. Lemmings discuss whether him or the Lemmy devs were the immature ones 
The "inflammatory comments":
Majority of drama is here:
You kept posting offtopic comments which added nothing to resolving the issue. So I gave you a seven day ban, hopefully it will teach you a lesson. [-32] (Lemmy dev)
My first comment directly discusses the issue at hand. It wasn't off topic. It's clear you didn't want any feedback on the issue because it makes you look bad. I explicitly talked about how client side scheduling is a bad idea that does not accomplish the goal of scheduling. And then I gave feedback directly concerning the exact issue I was commenting on of how your conduct was unfitting of lead devs of a major software project, where you squabbled in public in a really weird way, and you refused to even think about discussing the topic (closing the issue over and over again when your coworker had opened it and asked for discussion? Really dude?). Then you finally banned me without any warning or discussion of why.
And no, it's not going to teach me any lesson, all it did was teach the entire community you have no clue how to run an open source software project. No warning, no explanation, just juvenile marking of comments as off topic (they weren't), closing of the issue your main dev opened and then boom banned. [+63] (programming.dev owner)
https://programming.dev/comment/4397419
Other highlights:
Lemmy needs a fork, if only to kick the devs into gear with regards to actually working with/listening to the community. At this point a significant number of users have been lost because the devs have been largely unable to capitalize on previous waves on growth due to slow development. It's one thing if it's just a couple of devs working on the project and trying their best, it's an entirely different thing when a couple of devs are shutting out large numbers of contributors (frequently subject matter experts which they desperately need at this point) over relatively trivial issues. This isn't the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. Mbin is reviving Kbin as a project and we need something similar for Lemmy.
https://programming.dev/comment/4433343
I think that you should update your post with information that this ban is only for 7 days.
This:
I will no longer be able to assist with development
suggests that ban is infinite, which is not true.
https://programming.dev/comment/4399056
Dude, who in their right mind would add scheduling infra to a client like that? 😆 I'm going to need these Lemmy devs to have a tad bit more experience before they start being so dismissive, especially to someone who's just trying to help.
This is ridiculously petty from the devs, and does make me seriously wonder about Lemmy's future.
https://programming.dev/comment/4396642
Lemmy is self-destructing.
Part of this is simply replication of Reddit's interface design, which incentivizes bad behavior by users. But the other part is the devs. I trace this back to Eric S. Raymond's essay, Cathedral and the Bazaar, which popularized the notion of emergent software design by devs merely ‘scratching their itch' (personal interest). Raymond argued for design by emergence from Complexity Theory. The presumption of which is evolution toward greater compexity and user utility by populism as a fitness function, which he believed would drive software to best case optimization or death by disuse. In other words, good design will succeed while bad design will be weeded out by its unpopularity. But it doesn't work.
As an example, GIMP is one of the results. A mess of poorly documented modules, none of which in aggregate do the task (replacing Photoshop) it was meant to achieve. FOSS advocates (none of whom actually use the software) still promote GIMP as a Photoshop replacement and cannot see how this design philosophy has resulted in continual failure. But among general users, those who recognize the software as terrible in comparison to commercial alternatives, they know and avoid it like the software plague it is. Only those who can't avoid it, Linux users who have no other option, or the very poor who can't afford Affinity on Win or Mac, would bother trying to cram GIMP into their workflow.
The FOSS projects which have succeeded did so at the behest of devs who acted as benevolent dictators, people who are software design savvy and use that deep skill without concern for the interests and desires of incompetent or newly minted devs. Some examples: Richard Stallman (GNU), Linus Torvalds (Linux kernel), Ton Roosendaal (Blender), etc. They develop by Cathedral methods, and therefore their projects succeeded.
Lemmy will go the way of GIMP. A bunch of kids who have no idea why Reddit succeeded, but who think it would be fun to software play. Get BeeHaw off this software and away from these toxic devs. There are better designed FOSS alternatives. Not least of which is HubZilla and Zot. [-9]
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It doesn't really help that the 2 dudes in charge of Lemmy are total tankies, who get shit on constantly by https://sh.itjust.works/c/meanwhileongrad
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It's still funny that the 2 Lemmy devs blocked the meanwhileongrad community because they're butthurt about it mocking them.
It's a real shame the creator of MeanwhileOnGrad doesn't like a very very very specific yellow fish that starts with a c. Goat does have a rdrama account with the same username.
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woah
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Goat is the owner of c/meanwhileongrad which documents and mocks tankies especially those two devs and chapos on lemmy. He also doesn't like the fish.
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different symptoms of the same disease
professional sandbags
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